The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:This is cute, but I am most definitely out of Unfurl's league, who am I to have feelings for her?

Golden wrote:We are all out of unfurl's league. Unfurl is super-awesome.

I enjoyed reading DrWilgy's post with all the descriptive enhancements... but, gentlemen, I believe you are trying to say unfurl is out of your league... as in she's too good for you scrubs.

Insert blushing smilie here

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I'm all caught up now, but I'm way too tired to really post coherent thoughts. Thankfully I only work a half-day tomorrow, so I will have plenty of time in the afternoon to be around then. The best I can do for tonight is to just keep up with the thread.

So what are you thoughts for this lynch? you voted for a low poster day 1, Dfaraday, which also brings the question? are you still looking at him? is not like he has changed anything?
What do you think of the people that voted for you? do you think they still looking at you?

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

unfurl wrote: BWT, got a lot votes, maybe is worth lo look at him or his voters, some manipulation may be going on in that situation something I may look into later on

I agree re-reading the BWT voters might be a traditional way to spot some potential bandwagoning, but what manipulation do you plan to unearth, considering the Day officially ended before BWT received 7 out of his 8 total votes?

Mearly that Im curious as to he received 8 votes (looking at the image poll) from Devin-Lorab-TurnipHead-jaggedjimmy -DrWiggly-Golden-Typh-Tranq
More toward the end of the lynch poll
And even if the day ended early, and we have no clue to bwt alliance, I think is intersting to see if people still feel the same about him or if something changed?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Spoiler: show

unfurl wrote:I was very silly in Fight Club, 99% of the time, the only reason I won is cause I got recruited by BR team, and it was almost toward the end of the game, so they already had done the hard work

You are even admiting that you dont know me, and you did voted for me with out giving me a chance to get more into it, one vote is not much, but thats how some bandwagons start and I did revenge voted you, cause I did felt you were judging me for not trying, but at the end your vote was weak and easy to get out of the way
so who was not really trying?

unfurl, noted re: Fight Club.

You really think I haven't been trying this game?

When it comes to votting No, I dont think so, day 1 you voted for me, which we talked a lot already about it, I think we are going in circles

MovingPictures07 wrote: I don't really know unfurl's style, sorry. I hosted her once on The Syndicate in Fight Club and that was a super unconventional game. I thought she had more original thoughts that game but I can't even recall that very well. I have a hard time remembering games I've played on RM, except for Futurama and King Arthur, especially since I haven't played on RM in years. Sorry, unfurl, no offense intended. But I just have less experience with her than most of the players in this game.

I was very silly in Fight Club, 99% of the time, the only reason I won is cause I got recruited by BR team, and it was almost toward the end of the game, so they already had done the hard work

You are even admiting that you dont know me, and you did voted for me with out giving me a chance to get more into it, one vote is not much, but thats how some bandwagons start and I did revenge voted you, cause I did felt you were judging me for not trying, but at the end your vote was weak and easy to get out of the way
so who was not really trying?

Also I do not agree with Scotty on his theory about SVS, but at leastthe reason behind his vote it was not that contradictory, which was the point

MovingPictures07 wrote:unfurl, thanks, I appreciate it. I understand, don't get me wrong. But it also would be a convenient way for a recruiter or recently recruited to avoid committing to anything that occurs during Day 1. I've also seen Day 1's this year that completely were not crapshoots, so I think it may be silly to immediately dismiss any Day 1 discussion as meaningless.

Nonetheless, I take what you have to say into consideration. What thoughts about players do you have right now?

From top on my head

Golden vrs Epig thing, well Epig is dead, but Golden saying something along the line that he set up Epig is weird, dont know if he is WIFOM, but if Golden was bad why he will be so honest about it?

Scotty, day 1 vote for SVS, was a litte bit odd, as Dom pointed out, but Scotty explained later on, and it made sense his explanation

BWT, got a lot votes, maybe is worth lo look at him or his voters, some manipulation may be going on in that situation something I may look into later on

HOST QUESTIONS

unfurl wrote:Host
LC- BR
Are the names of roles on the post, just for storytelling? being specific the Warrior of the Shadows or they have some involment in game mechanics for the lynch

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HOST
What does it mean a lynch stop in your world?
the player with most votes dies? what are the variables that can apply?

Bye Epi and Typh, I also agree with the general feeling of loosing Typh after he has not played in a long time is a big lost, even if I have no idea wheter if he was still civvie/neutral or recruited to baddies, still a lost as a player

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Tranq wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can any of the players that defended unfurl's behavior by saying it is like unfurl please explain to me what in her behavior makes you believe this? What adjectives would you use to describe her play in general that you see here, that make you unable to distinguish her alignment, and not persuaded by any of the points I was making?

MP, i just went through your posts that mention unfurl, and through her posts aswell.

Basically, this is the reason you voted for her, right?

MovingPictures07 wrote:At this moment, the players that I'm eyeballing the most are:

unfurl, for 13 posts that contribute practically nothing (no offense intended) to the hunt or game mechanics discussion, and for an attitude that seems very cheeky, sarcastic, and nonchalant. It's possible that she is a recruiter or recruited that isn't willing to open up the low poster discussion for the reasons I mentioned, although it seems clear that she has no intention to open up any avenue of discussion. Even if she isn't recruited or recruiter of a nefarious nature, that is a dangerous mindset, and considering 28 of us are neutral, she may receive my vote purely for that unwillingness.

I don't see anything wrong with her having the attitude you described Day 1 in a Recruitment game. Especially her post here is one i agree with. I don't read her as having 0 intention in discussing anything (i think she has posted quite a bit since your interactions), i read it as wanting to play the game in her own way. I'm sure as the game progresses she'll have more original posts and thoughts.
So as for your suspicions and her posts so far, i don't think it points to unfurl being a Recruiter or having been recruited.

What do you make of DrWilgy wanting to be friends with unfurl?

Tranq, thanks for elaborating on this. You're correct that's essentially what I was seeing in unfurl.

As to the last line, why is that exactly? Do you think a Recruiter or recruited would be more apt to share their own opinions?

Regarding DrWilgy, I have no idea what to make of it. Apparently, he's friends with MM now as well. What do you make of it?

Im going to answer to this as it sort of is about me, so I will stick my nose in there

I think something to keep on my mind MP, it was day 1, I think a lot people expressed that day 1 is a crapsot, bullshit, they dont know what to do etc
I was not the only one feeling like I had no idea what is going on, sometimes it takes me a while to get on the swing on things and to people that dont know well, it comes as Im not trying, but I do try more so as the game progress, also keep on mynd there are 36 players, Im not used to that much of reading, I usually like smaller games and I also dont play a lot, in this site alone is my 3rd game

I admire people who are so selfasure of what they find suspicious, and so stubborn about it, may have theory, look a little bit at trying to find clues, like I did in the night post, and aapje thought as well, (And Im gonna ask the host my previous questions that they do not answer )and sometimes I make cases which does not mean Im fully convinced or correct about it, and sometimes I just go with my gut also

aapje wrote:

unfurl wrote:Host
LC- BR
Are the names of roles on the post, just for storytelling? being specific the Warrior of the Shadows or they have some involment in game mechanics for the lynch

Knowing the hosts that wouldn't surprise me. That seems to point to either Ubzargan of the Master of Shadows who I missed earlier. Note to people using my earlier position breakdown: not all roles were created at the time.

Master of Shadows - Warrior of the Shadows
Position 1: Choose your own position
Position 5: Become a shadow, you can’t be night targeted and all votes for you will not count

If the answer is yes, then with in time as the game progress some clues may be found on the post on how things go down and may help to figure things out

Also as you posted previously, if the answer is yes, I would put Ubzargan as possible having some intervention

Ubzargan the Ruthless - Warriors of the Shadows
Immune to NK/Lynch

Also I dont recall if someone asked before

HOST
What does it mean a lynch stop in your world?
the player with most votes dies? what are the variables that can apply?

I think I have a fan

Long Con wrote:

Seed of Paranoia

It was raining in the moderately-sized fishing village of Driix. Two local guardsmen, of the constabulary sect of the Children of Serenity, were making their rounds along the rickety piers and stone-lined sideroads that made up the most active portion of the village.

"Hold up," said one, "There's a new message from central command." He pulled out a small screen and read closely, his face glowing with a bluish-green light as he leaned over it, sheltering it from the rain with his body.

"What's the scoop?" said the other. "More uniform regulation changes?"

"No..." he said, frowning slightly. "No, this is different." He looked up. "We're supposed to look out for deserters and suspicious activity."

"Deserters? Here?" the other scoffed incredulously. "What are they deserting, their families? Their crappy jobs?" He gave a short, mocking laugh.

"No, this is different. Seems pretty serious. Supposedly, the Warrior of the Shadows are making some sort of power play. There's been a couple of deaths already."

"Well, I doubt anything will happen here, it's only a-" His words were cut short by a loud crash just around the corner. They looked at each other, and both began to run to where the noise had originated.

When they rounded the corner, they could see a shadowy form next to a crate that had fallen and broken open by the docks. "Hey!" yelled the first guard, and the figure looked up, startled, and began to run.

"Hey, stop!" he yelled again, and began to give chase.

"I've got him," growled the second, and pulled out bolas from his belt, twirling them above his head. "Non-lethal measures," he grinned. "I've been practicing!"

The first guard stopped, and raised his eyebrows, impressed. The second twirled them once more and let them fly. They twirled through the air toward the shadowy figure, and both guards cheered as the figure toppled in a clump. "Nice one, man, where did you get those??"

"I sent away for them!" he grinned, and they both jogged over to accost the figure.

They arrived to see the figure writhing and clawing at their neck, where the bolas had wrapped around tightly. The figure's face was turning purple, eyes bulging.

"Whoa, whoa, get it off him! It's choking him, quick!" They tried to unwind the bolas, but they were too tightly tangled. Before they could get the figure free, they had stopped clawing and writhing, and had gone limp.

"Agh, no, he's dead, he's dead!" said the guard frantically, finally unwrapping the bolas. "Oh, man, this is really bad!"

"I know!" They both stared down at the body despondently. "Should we... should we push him in the water?"

"We're so losing our jobs."

Just then, to their relief, the figure began to cough and groan. The two guards helped him up and gave him some water, telling him alternately how they were so sorry, and trying to gauge the chances that he would press charges.

No one has been lynched. The lynch was ended early, at 5:46pm. If you wish to know exactly who wasn't lynched, then you'll have to do what we just had to do, and go through posts to see who voted when, and for whom, before that time.

From now on, bold and colour your official votes in the thread when you make or change them. That will make this much easier, should it happen again. Tell your friends; not everyone will read this.

It is now Night 1. Get your PMs in as early as possible, because this game has a lot of factors to sift through.

Night 1 will last for less than 24 hours. Please refer to Phase 2's Position Poll for the exact end time of the Night.

Also WTF Kadaj???

Host
LC- BR
Are the names of roles on the post, just for storytelling? being specific the Warrior of the Shadows or they have some involment in game mechanics for the lynch

I voted for postion 2, not much thought behind it, just going down the numbers

timmer wrote:unfurl may have helped herself out? At that time, she couldn't know how the day would flesh out, right? I think trying to tie the time so narrowly is a risky guess, anyway. Lots to ponder, little to truly gleam.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:This doesn't seem right for unfurl to end the day early, but this is the finaly tally I came up with. Everyone had 1 vote except unfurl who had 2. This makes more sense for someone like BWT to be the one who stopped the lynch.

2 - unfurl

• DrWilgy (1), MovingPictures07 (3)

1 - birdwithteeth11

• Devin the Omniscient (7)

1 - Canucklehead

• Spacedaisy (9)

1 - DrWilgy

• DisgruntledPorcupine (6)

1 - Epignosis

• Golden (2)

1 - Golden

• Epignosis (4)

1 - MovingPictures07

• unfurl (11)

1 - Russtifinko

• bea (8)

1 - S~V~S

• Scotty (5)

1 - Tranq

• G-Man (10)

I had nothing to do with the lynch being stopped, or if was pardon, it was not me eitheir, no idea of who would had done it

DrWilgy wrote:Just wondering.

Is there anything wrong with me wanting friends? Nothing more nothing less. Unfurl, I want to be friends with you due to me voting for you so quickly. I'm sorry about that. Players have vouched for you and I may have made a mistake. MM86 and I have played together already, and I can see us becoming good friends as well. That's why I chose them!

There is nothing wrong to be friendly to people, Im not a very agressive player myself, but if I suspect someone of being bad, then I will vote for them even if they are among the people I get along the most overall
Maybe is just because we are from different sites/styles that it sounds somewhat odd to most people to propose to be friends in a game that can get hard core throught
But like I said Im glad you changed your mind

Ricochet wrote:cue dramatic twist

DrWilgy wrote:I only got 1 response on my question about SVS. Its rather important, even more so than my other questions.

MM89, you me and Unfurl are all on a team now. Ok?

say what

first he voted for me, then he voted for you and I asked why
and then he asked me if I was his new friend?, which I did not answer cause I have no idea what is he doing, or why

Im gonna go ahead and vote
Im gonna sort of revenge vote for MP, cause he did never explained why he voted for me, yes we had some back in forth, and I think part of the main reason he started going after me was because I laugh that he was going after low posters while he was trying to be super good-helpfull at trying to find the recruiters, that was the easy way out to appear helpfull
yes he said to be busy and what not, but he manages to post after votting for me, let see if he comes back posting 10000 post after this

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Votes are not changeable in this poll. Just sayin'.

then how that vote was moved? maybe people who already voted can say if they are able to change it?

Ricochet wrote:

unfurl wrote:I noticed that DrWilgy changed his vote from me, which Im glad , to Ricochet but I dont see why him?

Wait, so votes are changeable?

yes, cause Im not longer have his vote, dont know if that was magic

I noticed he did said he is new to the site and the way is play around here, but FYI people usually explained their vote like with a long reason, gut, randomized, revenge, lol reason, theory, case etc

I noticed that DrWilgy changed his vote from me, which Im glad , to Ricochet but I dont see why him?

Spacedaisy wrote:
Voting low posters. Really? If you want to vote someone for low contribution, fine, but in this situation there seems like a beck of a lot of other things to consider and I think the discussion of recruit/recruiter reasoning has been an excellent example. If we can locate either a recruit or recruiter it might give us a possible direction to look next. At one point llama made a comment about not thinking low posters are a good lynch option, but if we are going to lynch them today would be a good day. I think that is extremely silly given the fact a recruitment has already occurred, and twice for at least one of the baddies it seems. It didn't give me warm feels about llama, but I read it twice and he did say he didn't think they were the best option, so I kind of out him on my back burner, suspicion wise. Anyway, the low poster people who have masse me last comfortable are MP and bwt. MP listed me in his low poster column, knowing full well what my situation is because he has been witness to my rage against the iPad.

Exactly the part about low poster discussion taht started from MP, you said it eloquent but I just I found it funny when I first saw it and made a joke about it,
low poster is an easy target, and cause people always try to go that route, and I get it in a LMS game is somewhat valid, but this is not a LMS game

bea wrote:Everything feels like day 1 bullshit. It always does to me.

Best quote so far

MovingPictures07 wrote:Fuck x 9001, something's come up re: PhD and I'll probably be pulling an all-nighter tonight and possibly tomorrow night to get all of this shit done. I'm sorry, folks, but this absolutely has to come first.

I'm going to just go ahead and vote unfurl in case I can't come back in time. I know this is unlike me, but I'll be lucky enough to get this done even with not sleeping tonight. I'll catch up properly whenever I can, probably Saturday or Sunday.

So according to you Im worst then a low poster? cause thats who you said wanted to discuss, and because i when against you, I pretty much became your target
So is more an easy vote to just vote for me?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

unfurl wrote:It exist because I wrotte what if first came to mind and that was it
this is the first time we play together, so just you know I march to the beat of my own drum

Maybe you should read my previous response to bullz, to get to know a little bit of how I roll, and I will roll a lot different in this game, from previous games too

Hey I can dig it. I kind of do my own thing too, I suppose. We all have our unique styles and we play to them as our whims direct. But I must state: the post I referenced before truly did trouble me. It bore the appearance of something literally torn from the Baddie Code of Conduct -- commentary relevant to the game that does not go anywhere or progress any thought process.

For the moment my vote is on you in spirit. But do not despair; this is your opportunity to change my mind.

A lot people always think Im bad because of how I talk/post, nothing new there for me, when people get to know me, then they usually are more open minded before judging me

DrWilgy wrote: I voted for unfurl the moment I read this, but I'm still in the process of learning what I can about this site and it's players. I generally don't involve myself to heavily day one, but I am willing to vote for someone who posts as if they are wanting to appear while not contributing anything. From what I've experienced, players like that do nothing but make the game harder to solve. I'd take someone who doesn't speak at all over someone who speaks too much while saying nothing.

wow that was an early vote

Tranq wrote:
Poor unfurl. It always sucks to get the 1st vote on the 1st Day I agree with Golden and Roxy - I saw nothing un-unfurly (furly..?) in her interactions with MP.

Hey Tranq! good to see you, I am almost blind after reading that

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As for the discussion if I was a recruiter who I would recruit, I think Fun-likeable people win my heart, and everyone is smart/skilled player in their own way

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

unfurl wrote:Trying to figure out who "could" be recruited so early is a witch hunt imho
Is just guessing, but part of this game is just that at the end
Based in just guessing, I dont have suspects for leaders or recruiters. at this point, is finding a needle in a haystack unless you are a mind reader, then good for you, but discussion is good so there

Golden-Epig back in forth, intersting (haha I noticed Epig hates the word intersting!!!! :P)
Both of them talk and argue a lot, thats pretty much my conclusion

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something as a general request
Please, use the green off topic color, for the people who dont have a lot time, to be reading/posting a lot, it helps to skim those parts

unfurl, I am deeply troubled. This post... it endorses nothing! You're not down with trying to figure out who could be recruited. You're not down with offering a perspective on the Golden-Epignosis interaction despite bringing it up. I need to know why this post exists, please inform me. I beg you.

It exist because I wrotte what if first came to mind and that was it
this is the first time we play together, so just you know I march to the beat of my own drum

Maybe you should read my previous response to bullz, to get to know a little bit of how I roll, and I will roll a lot different in this game, from previous games too

Bullzeye wrote:

unfurl wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

unfurl wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: So what do you want to talk about?

I already talk what I wanted to talk about, I said my 2 cents and I feel good about it
Freedom of choice, everyone is free to talk about whatever makes then feel they are playing

Of course. That's why I asked what you wanted to talk about. If you didn't want to discuss low posters, then what did you want to discuss?

How do you propose we uncover a recruiter today?

Like I said I have no ide how to uncover a recruiter is finding a needle in a haystack, but maybe the people who talk a lot are able to find a solution :P

Are you going to try? I don't know how to find a recruiter either but I'm not going to just let other people do it for me. This post makes me feel like that's your attitude though.

Of course Im going to try, in my own way, don’t know how susseccfull I may be, but let me ask you a question
We are 36 players, is day 1, How many players you think are actually trying so far? So whoever is not trying is evil and should die? What about people that sometimes try so hard to hide their evilness?

I think sometimes people take things to serious and try so hard and pick every single thing is been said to put it out of context to their own beneficial and fine that’s their style to play, but not mine, Im clueless most of the time, I like to read and think and analize, but sadly I don’t have a lot time in my hands, I have not made a spread sheet, so I will just post and play according to when I have some free time from work and life, but Im not getting a headache from trying to hard to figure out things out

A lot times, most of the time, people don’t get my sense of humour, and could get me in trouble and I fine with it, I play the way I choose too

MovingPictures07 wrote:

unfurl wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: So what do you want to talk about?

I already talk what I wanted to talk about, I said my 2 cents and I feel good about it
Freedom of choice, everyone is free to talk about whatever makes then feel they are playing

Of course. That's why I asked what you wanted to talk about. If you didn't want to discuss low posters, then what did you want to discuss?

How do you propose we uncover a recruiter today?

Like I said I have no ide how to uncover a recruiter is finding a needle in a haystack, but maybe the people who talk a lot are able to find a solution :P

MovingPictures07 wrote: So what do you want to talk about?

I already talk what I wanted to talk about, I said my 2 cents and I feel good about it
Freedom of choice, everyone is free to talk about whatever makes then feel they are playing

I think Im going to be very sarcastic this game, I dhould problably lear to use the orange color, but see I can use the green color
so proud of myself!!!

linky MP
I do understand your point a little bit, and ofc no one likes to be talking a lot, and get lynched or NK for it, while others just fly under the radar and a lot times win because of it
in a set up like LMS I agree, is usually good to get rid of people that are not even playing cause it gets boring

And that was fast cause I was around at this moment in my pc, and I found it amusing

The low poster debate, oh thats a new thing! Cant wait to see all the comments about it

Trying to figure out who "could" be recruited so early is a witch hunt imho
Is just guessing, but part of this game is just that at the end
Based in just guessing, I dont have suspects for leaders or recruiters. at this point, is finding a needle in a haystack unless you are a mind reader, then good for you, but discussion is good so there

Golden-Epig back in forth, intersting (haha I noticed Epig hates the word intersting!!!! :P)
Both of them talk and argue a lot, thats pretty much my conclusion

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something as a general request
Please, use the green off topic color, for the people who dont have a lot time, to be reading/posting a lot, it helps to skim those parts

DharmaHelper wrote:I see a majority of the people who voted realize how important it is to follow my lead.

After I voted I realized you were the first tha voted for that choice and I thought oh great I voted same as DH and Im folliwng his lead
just kidding DH

Bullzeye wrote:

unfurl wrote:What is all this averb talk, am I taking a grammar class?, I did not know thats what I signep up is over my head
,

Adverbs are evil. Look up the phrase adverb in the dictionary and you will find it says "A sure sign of malice". Maybe. Probably not.

As Hurley said in lost "I need spell check" when it comes to english, so Im not one to judge on grammar matter

I think the mixing the pot has officialy started lol

Voted for position 1, Im not overthinking things in this game, Im just gonna be dont worry be happy

What is all this averb talk, am I taking a grammar class?, I did not know thats what I signep up is over my head
,

No idea which position to vote for, skimming around
I think it will comes to potato and potatoe sort of thing
pulling, pushing and showving to what is better

But I assume this poll will end tomorrow, so I will vote tomorrow, as today Im tired

When is the poll ending, am I blind but I dont see a timer?

Helloooooooooo!!!