The Syndicate

Dana wrote:

Made wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I'm a bit confused about what you mean regarding parallels; can you re-word that?

seemingly baseless arguments and use of an eye to denote suspicion should be directed towards a person(zeek) are the main ones I caught. What i find really interesting is how no one followed through on their suspicions. Like Myself, SVS, and Dana all pretty much excused the odd behavior( that we were right to call odd) on the grounds of you being you.

Voting Dana.

Made, can you give me some explanation here please?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I'm a bit confused about what you mean regarding parallels; can you re-word that?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dana wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I think it worked, given we seem to have gotten a really weird attempt to push a zeek lynch based on something trivial by Enrique.

I don't see anyone attempting to push a zeek lynch. Enrique found something that he thought was odd, commented on it (like you did, even though you weren't serious?) and got an answer. I'm not too sure what the issue is here. Though I also don't think someone who's bad would bring so much attention on themselves so early on, so for now, I think both you and Enrique are good.

MovingPictures07 wrote: He clearly tried to say zeek could be suspicious for a ridiculous "slip", then after I responded and explained the situation, he said it would be "really weird thing to slip on", and then afterwards said it was "suspicious"?

I do think it WOULD have been a weird thing to slip on, if it were a slip. It WAS suspicious when there wasn't the information that he could have known about "supatown". Now that the information has been brought here to the thread, I don't think there's anything too weird going on. It seems like he had accepted the explanation, and then when questioned, was explaining why he thought it was suspicious before. That doesn't mean he still thought it was suspicious at the time he said that.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I find your attempt to incriminate me kind of odd.

I'm not trying to incriminate you, I'm sorry if it seemed that way. Like I said before, I think you're good for right now. I just want us all to be friends!

Fair, I don't feel very strongly about this Enrique suspicion, but I do believe in it, and I do think he very well could be bad. I wouldn't have voted him if we couldn't change votes, but since we can, thought I might as well.

No one was attempting to push a zeek lynch, but here's my point: Enrique clearly used the , trying to imply zeek could be bad based on the answer to his question, but here's the thing: There's any number of places zeek could have learned about Supatown. Additionally, even if he did have baddie teammates, why the hell would he purposefully talk about something like that when he could run the risk of this very thing happening? Even if he hadn't voted in the Felt mafia poll, if it was because he had BTSC, it seems to me anyone in their right mind would exercise some degree of caution in saying something like that in thread.

Enrique's supposed questioning was really pointless from the start, but I interpret it as an attempt to try to get zeek to flounder, and increase suspicion on him over the coming 48 hours, because Enrique hadn't expressed a firm opinion on anyone one way or the other thus far. Even if he didn't end up voting zeek, he easily could put more suspicion on zeek with this supposed "slip" and then cause chaos for me and attempt to build off of my original 'suspicion' of zeek being bad.

Personally, in my experience, these so called baddie "slips" are almost never true, so I find the discussion around them always suspicious. Add in the fact that Enrique has been strangely careful with his wording, generally noncommittal yet willing to comment about how weird I was acting, and then add in the fact that he switched from trying to interrogate zeek about this, then to accepting my explanation, then saying it was "suspicious", and NOT ONLY all of that but Enrique saying "usually" he supports SVS even though he just started playing mafia again after a multiple-year break... it just all reads like a lack of sincerity to me, a baddie caught in trying to manipulate something that didn't work out.

Epignosis wrote:

Enrique wrote:Yeah? That's what I'm referring to in the post you quoted. I didn't think there was an obvious explanation and legitimately wanted to know how zeek answered. But then MP did it for him, and it made enough sense to satisfy me. I wasn't witch hunting someone for the sake of it, I was asking a question and expecting an answer.

QED.

I am voting Enrique. I encourage others to do likewise.

MovingPictures07 wrote: And it appears there are just some cultural differences, but that said, when you refer to "this site", there really are different subcultures mixed into the members of this site because there are people from the STV and LP days, there are others from PA (a music forum) that I brought over, and all sorts of places, so there may not be an overarching site culture when it comes to what is suspicious with regards to certain things. I PERSONALLY think saying "I'm a civ" to prove that you're a civ with an LD role breaks the game, and this gets into Dana's question...

MovingPictures07 wrote: And it appears there are just some cultural differences, but that said, when you refer to "this site", there really are different subcultures mixed into the members of this site because there are people from the STV and LP days, there are others from PA (a music forum) that I brought over, and all sorts of places, so there may not be an overarching site culture when it comes to what is suspicious with regards to certain things. I PERSONALLY think saying "I'm a civ" to prove that you're a civ with an LD role breaks the game, and this gets into Dana's question...

Epignosis wrote:Yeah, I'm not buying this little back and forth at all.

zeek wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Given The Master appears to be an LMS, which makes complete sense, I would bet he has a pretty powerful role, so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he would resurrect after dying. I suppose The Doctor can as well though? Which means someone automatically regenerating after death could be either of those roles, potentially. So why wouldn't you mention that?

I was concentrating on the baddies, don't think it's helpful to discuss the potential secret powers of civs until necessary.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Consequently, while I do believe you have some logical and astute observations, in the end, I question the true intent behind your post. I've seen baddies (and I always try to do this myself as bad) who try to appear as helpful as possible but while simultaneously causing unnecessary paranoia, so just because I find myself agreeing with you, when I read your post part of me wondered if you are trying to set up misconceptions and paranoia.

Because you agree with me and I was trying to be helpful, I might be bad? I'm not, I was simply trying to help inform the non-Whovians who are playing. If the baddie teams were the Weeping Angels and the Slytheen I still would have speculated on likely secret powers. Due to the nature of those groups there wouldn't be a potential recruitment though, so would I have drawn your suspicion?

It's Day 0, and I've never played in a game with Day 0 before. I don't know how you guys play on this site. I don't want this to sound like tit for tat... but I find it weird you're making a big deal of my post.

zeek wrote: I've never played in a game with Day 0 before.

S~V~S wrote:?

Did part of this get cut off?

zeek wrote: Day 0 before. I don't know how you guys play on this site. I don't want this to sound like tit for tat... but I find it weird you're making a big deal of my post.

Enrique wrote:

Made wrote:I currently see zeek as overly confrontational, but that can easily be rationalized when you realize it's his first day 0. He (assuming you're talking about his criticizing speculating about civvie roles) sounds like what I would expect in a day 1 post.

You think zeek was overly confrontational?

zeek wrote:

Dana wrote:

zeek wrote:But maybe she's trying to buddy me

Will you be my friend?

Made wrote:I currently see zeek as overlly confrontational, but that can easily be rationalized when you realize it's his first day 0. He (assuming you're talking about his critzing speculating about civvie roles) sounds like what I would expect in a day 1 post.

I'm overly confrontational? What about MP?

Made wrote:Linki- ok this is just a petpeev, but people describing their own tells always makes me feel weird.

Who is this about?

S~V~S wrote: Weirder than clowns?

sabie12 wrote:Maybe this poll will decide what season our story is based on or what season we begin with at least?

fingersplints wrote:What is the War Doctor?

Excited the game has started!

juliets wrote:Oh no! Right off the bat I have to know something about this show, so, I will visit wikipedia. It seems like the people I know loved the last doctor - was that the 11th? Or is 11th the current one?

Dana wrote:Can we pick more than one?!