The Syndicate

Emperor Dalek wrote:--- -a---t -- ---------t-- ----- -t--------- -- ---- team -- --a-.

Dalek Sec wrote:If someone targets a member of your team with a night action, you can ------t a -a----- ---------t -- t---. A ---- -- t--- t-----. If --a--, the night action ---- --t---- a-- --- ---- a ---- again(?). If taken, --t---- -a-----. -- t-- ---- -a--- --a-- -- t-- ------ ----, that --a--- ---- --t -- a--- to -----t----- target your team -- a-- -a- (--t---- -- ----- --t--) --- t-- ---a----- in the game. If taken, the night action -t--- ---- --t----, --t t---- any of -t--- -----t-.

Dalek/Cyberman #1 wrote:----- a --a--- ----t--.

Dalek/Cyberman #2 wrote:-------- a --a- --a--- ----t--.

The Cyber Controller wrote:--- -a---t -- ----t------ --t-- ----- -t--- ------ -- ---- t--- -- --a-.

Cyberman Head wrote:If you manage to find your body (a -a------ --t------- ----t) at some point in the game, you have an extra amount of --t-- for the ---t ----- --t------- -- --- -a-- ------- on your team a-- -t--- a----.[/quote]

Emperor Dalek wrote:--- -a---t -- ---------t-- ----- -t--------- -- ---- team -- --a-.

Dalek Sec wrote:If someone targets a member of your team with a night action, you can ------t a -a----- ---------t -- t---. A ---- -- t--- t-----. If --a--, the night action ---- --t---- a-- --- ---- a ---- again(?). If taken, --t---- -a-----. -- t-- ---- -a--- --a-- -- t-- ------ ----, that --a--- ---- --t -- a--- to -----t----- target your team -- a-- -a- (--t---- -- ----- --t--) --- t-- ---a----- -- t-- -a--. If taken, the night action -t--- ---- --t----, --t t---- any of -t--- -----t-.

Dalek/Cyberman #1 wrote:----- a --a--- ----t--.

Dalek/Cyberman #2 wrote:-------- a --a- --a--- ----t--.

The Cyber Controller wrote:--- -a---t -- ----t------ --t-- ----- -t--- ------ -- ---- t--- -- --a-.

Cyberman Head wrote:If you manage to find your body (a -a------ --t------- ----t) at some point in the game, you have an extra amount of --t-- for the ---t ----- --t------- -- --- -a-- ------- on your team a-- -t--- a----.[/quote]
also found this website: http://www.xworder.com/

Dana wrote: Made has been acting pretty oddly, but like Juliets, no one is really speaking out against the suspicion of him, so I'm not sure. I'll have to see what happens tomorrow, I guess.

You lost me Dee. Juliet had quiet a few people talking out against her, i mean she did get lynched?

zeek wrote:

Made wrote:Wait, it can't be companions because the next word is plural.

Do you mean it can't be companions because it says if he finds him/her?

And i'm taking the act in a month....

zeek wrote:

Enrique wrote:Not "each," the "a" isnt' accounted for

Good point.

Long Con wrote:

zeek wrote:

Long Con wrote:"Blocked" is definitely good.

Sorry, what?

The first three attempts on his life will be blocked. Every night, he attempts to find(kill?) ---- -a---, --- ----/companions. If he finds him(her?), they gain BTSC. --- to --- -t---- a----t- as a scientist, ---- -- t-- -a-- -- -a- ----- ----- night action that ----t t- -- -a------ -------t-- at ------- other than the original target. T--- -- -- to a-- --------- kill attempts.

You said it like somebody had suggested it.

Wait, it can't be companions because the next word is plural.

Dom wrote:Made, who do you think is suspicious

I've been pinged hard by Epi all game. I find it sus how outspoken he's been. I get it's his meta, but as others have mentioned, he's been playing it hard, and i think it's a bluff. The thing that makes me think it's a bluff even more is because no one has called him on it.
Going off of what i've been called for in the past, even during Monty where people had a chance to see how crazy i could be in misfits, Epi should be the middle of conversation and suspcion but he's not.

Had it been anyone else this post would be the front of discussion

Epignosis wrote:

Made wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I am telling you to vote for Enrique. What do I have to gain from this?

If he is lynched and is bad, then I get Night killed.

If he is lynched and is good, then I get lynched.

Which is par for the course for me.

Vote for Enrique.

The Suicidal Civvie Gambit. Having been on the opposite side of this gambit, i must say, you can get a very fun chain of civvies dying if you're not careful. Assuming you and Enrique are civvie, this would lead to a train of more civvies jumping on to kill the person who killed the previous civvie.

Linki- Isn't Enrique already president?

I'm not careful.

Good night.

Had it been anyone else, this post would of been the front of discussion

Epignosis wrote:What the fuck with all these people missing votes? I love hosting and I have created many games, and it kills me when people don't participate. Granted, I don't know Dr. Who at all, just that it's some weird British mashup of Back to the Future and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

That's all I know.

Still, if you signed up, have some fucking respect, yes? birdwithteeth is a lazy sack of shit. He acts like he likes prog, but that's horsewithteeth shit. He likes Devin Townsend, who just smashes strings and makes ugly faces. Give this "host" something to do. Okay? Fucker doesn't even cut his hair. And bea drinks. A lot. Maybe more than me. Fail to vote this time, and I hope she smashes an empty vodka bottle over your head. And then draws a dick on your face.

God bless you two.

Voted Enrique. Not changing this time.

Had it been anyone else this post would be the front of discussion

Epignosis wrote:

juliets wrote:Just keep telling yourself that that reworded post meant I was bad. Keep telling yourself.

It didn't mean you were bad. It meant you were suspicious.

I still think that juliet got lynched so easily because someone who was mafia was a top option for the lynch till Epi made his argument against JC, but i'm dropping it because the Rubber band theory seems to be hella strong rn .

Epignosis wrote:Oh, I'm a hunter all right.

Really I'm currently reading you as more of a phony. a BIG FAT PHONY!!!


So let's play ball. *rolls up sleeves*

*votes Epi*

We finna go dirt sauce

Linki- first blank might be blocked? correct amount of characters?

alright, caught up.

bea wrote:Attention!!! Attention!!! This just in:

K9 wrote:Doctor. I have received some confusing and contradictory information tonight. The Valeyard is a role. Epignosis is Jim The Fish. The Valeyard is not a role. This requires further analysis.

So we know that it's not two truths. so either valeyard is or isn't a role.

Dom wrote: Honestly, I'm looking at Made today.

lezzgo b

Dom wrote:

zeek wrote:I'm not entirely clear on your suspicions of Made, is it because he is unclear about your posts? Like he's trying to force suspicion on you over nothing?

The problems I have with your explanation are:
I don't buy that you used a randomizer for on four options.
Logically, an accidental vote is a random vote.

Obviously, you can't answer these criticisms if what you say is true. I don't know you - maybe you just religiously follow a randomizer, even for small polls, but it is odd.

I can understand your concern, but I have answered to the best of my-- or anyone's for that matter-- ability.
I suspect made because I think he tried to get someone to run with a suspicion of me without building any case. He simply threw my name out there saying I hadn't explained something that I HAD explained.
However, he then said he MISREAD what I had said. how did he both miss it and misread it?
In addition, Made says that he missed my explanation for why I thought MP was being hypocritical.. however, people WERE waiting for an explanation on my Enrique vote. It makes me think he saw that someone was waiting for an explanation from me, and just assumed that was it. It's sloppy mudslinging if you ask me.

I gave the persona/angle reads I had on everyone active, and realized afterwards that you, Dom, weren't on my radar, so i went back and read you.
I missed where you gave this explanation (or MISREAD where you gave your explanation as an independent read on MP) so I asked in thread if you ever explained it.

Rereading Epi, Mr, and TH.

zeek wrote:Given one of these options relates directly to the Weeping Angels I'm willing to reassess my previous statement about the likelihood of the Valeyard being a character. He may just be a plot device and the three hidden roles are Weeping Angels. Although in their initial appearance it was a team of four. Something to consider.

Does Silence make sense to be the hidden roles? I mean if we were to know their existed, we wouldn't.

zeek wrote:Made, the word FIGHTING does not appear in that. Take a butteryfly for example. If a butterfly is placed in a stressful or uncomfortable environment it will evolve and adapt to survive.

It's more likely that we're going to have to interact with them, not that we will magically adopt the biology of the things born on the planet. Since we'd probably end up fighting the weeping angels, i figured we'd end up fighting the adaptable animals. I'm not crazy am I?

S~V~S wrote:MR has not posted since since before the lynch ended, but he just voted without posting. I have never heard of someone being silenced at night. I am not liking that vote.

Linki@ Made~ anything is possible; but based on what I recall and have wikied, I don't think so. It is also a Dalek slaver planet, so I think a vote for it would help the Daleks, assuming this is a benefit poll, which i am thinking it might be.

Hmm...Checked the wiki for relations of cyber man or silence to the other two planets and couldn't find any, but Azure has a Darlek link so based on SVS's(linkied) reasoning, and my own searching, I'm going alzarius.

Alzarius* just putting that there so noone try to give me shit for that.

zeek wrote:And where did you get FIGHTING ANIMALS from?

From the articles about arziziziziz you linked?

This manifested itself most obviously in the extremely rapid adaptive changes made by Alzarian animal life. If placed in an environment it found stressful or even uncomfortable, an Alzarian creature would rapidly develop whatever characteristics it required to make the environment less stressful, such as the ability to breathe in a different medium, or higher muscular density.

Fighting Animals that can adapt to any threat doesn't exactly sound like the best option.

Is my argument valid in the context of the planet in doctor who, yes or no?

zeek wrote:Because we have to choose which planet we're going to and this is the safest option.

ACKNOWLEDGE MY DAMN ARGUMENT


Arkheon would be the ghost planet, which means that a dead players (juliet) could potentially come back. Honestly, I think you guys don't want her back because she's talk against you.

Chris wrote:So, "I chose poorly" is the only summation I'm going to get?

I suppose it's close enough to the beginning that I'll just start paying attention from here on out.

I'm certainly not reading 17 pages of pre game and day zero shit.

Tldr- we had no clue who we were going to lynch, and then we decided after Epi made a case that Juliet was totally mafia.

zeek wrote:I see Dana, I'd like her vote.

u mirrin?

Also, forgot to number my post, I got the 5 tho.

Voting Arkheon because no one acknowledged my reasoning >_>. I don't trust none of y'all negros on Azule or Azarius, and Weeping angels are scary.
I think i've seen enough to figure out what's going on so lezzgo

Snowdog, you refuse to post 4 more times on topic???

zeek wrote: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Alfava_Metraxis
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Arkheon
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Alzarius
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Azure

Only planet I've heard of was Alfava. Could arkheon, the ghost planet allow us to talk to Juliet?

Just read the lynch post, sorry Juliet <3

Dom wrote:Hi everyone! I had a rather exhausting night and just caught up. I will do my best to comment appropriately.

Made wrote:

Dom wrote:I find some of the points on Enrique to be valid. I do. However, I couldn't help but notice how hypocritical MP is being.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Enrique wrote:No. It's suspicious that he used it without any indication that he was around when it was used.

I waited until Day 1. But you, sir, are my greatest suspect.

Wow, I actually agree here.

So you agree-- Enrique is your greatest suspect.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Fair, I don't feel very strongly about this Enrique suspicion, but I do believe in it, and I do think he very well could be bad. I wouldn't have voted him if we couldn't change votes, but since we can, thought I might as well.

MovingPictures07 wrote: So now here you go trying to subtly push that my behavior was really forced and over the top, just like Dana, yet you're "not making any accusations"?

I don't buy it.

Am I bad or not, Enri?

Seriously?

Does anyone know how this post is suppose to be read, he never clarified what exact he felt was hypocritical.

I absolutely clarified this.
There, however, IS something else I didn't clarify. Why did you get the two confused?

Made wrote: Also, thanks, misread Dom's post.

Explain to me how you "misread" my post. Explain to me that "misreading" my post would cause you to think I NEVER clarified on a post that I had made earlier.

I skipped the quotes when i read you. So i read:

Dom wrote:What makes me furrow my brow is that you seem to be looking at Enrique (who I believe to be suspicious) partially because he is changing stance on you. However, you are doing a similar kind of waffling on him. It doesn't make sense to me

But didn't realize this was a clarification of the hypocritical thing till MP pointed it out to me.

The really shitty thing is I felt that Juliet's lynch was absolute bullshit. Simple phrasing change was a cardinal sin but everything that everyone else did, including but not limited to:
Mr's vote
SVS's removedness
Mp's stunt
Enrique's supatown
Elo's vote
Epi's Suicidalness

While i personally don't think any of these were vote worthy (Beside maybe Elo's vote), the fact that the above were acknowledge and deemed insignificant but juliet wasn't is bothering me.


Also, SVS, start playing better already, like real talk .

Enrique wrote:... what?

shhh

S~V~S wrote:Everyone took one of those strategies, bad or not.

OK, this is bothering me, SVS, what the fuck game are you playing?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I wonder: Baddies could have taken three strategies here, really, (1) avoided the juliets lynch and voted elsewhere, (2) bandwagoned onto the juliets lynch, or (3) missed the vote.

Of (2), Elo, sabie, and Bullz's votes struck me as most suspicious.

Of (1) and (3), I'm not sure yet. Requires further analysis. But I have my eye on a few players, that's for sure.

Linki with Enrique: Thanks for clarifying and making the list of the 11. I was about to do it myself, but you just saved me like a minute or two.

This is every possible option?
Either vote Juliet, not vote Juliet or not vote.

what showed up on my phone the moment I walked into the stadium (sorry can't post imgur pictures as proper pictures in thread apparently)
For the little it's worth, I was going to vote epi. I have screen shots of the message I typed and intended to send if anyone would like to hear them, RIP Juliet.

Epignosis wrote:

juliets wrote:Epi since you are so good at picking out baddies I've been trying to piece together your suspicion of enrique but it would be more helpful if you could just give a short list of the things that have hit you about enrique. I was sure I wouldn't vote him but I want to make sure I understand why you are.

This is worded very differently than what you accidentally posted in Monty Python:

juliets wrote:I think I may have to retract my statement about not voting for zeek, enrique or mp. I am piecing together Epigs suspicion of Enrique and it holds more water than I thought. Epi you could make this easier by just listing the reasons you voted for him. Just a few key words even.

the same question exactly, different framing. One is just more aggressive towards you. Given, the framing posted this thread does conflict with comments she's made after the fact.
linki- bulleye just now made the strongest argument against juliet imo (allowing another play to be the reason she votes rather than personal suspicion)....Game starts soon... I'll vote from my phone before i walk in the stadium....

I don't like how fast everyone is hopping on Juliets. Juliets, why didn't you just post the original and- wait a second...What? I just reread the two post and they say pretty much the exact same thing?? Only difference is she didn't voice that she agreed with Epi? Are you guys kidding?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Made wrote: I'm not saying that? I'm saying by voting someone who's actually posting, we increase or odds of finding mafia because the vote was influenced by suspicion rather than completely random. I'd much rather one civvie die than two personally.
In reference to your second post, the only thing we learn when we kill a random is that their intent was genuine. If a civvie didn't post much on topic what did we learn?

Do we though, if most mafia members are hardly posting? I don't know, I still don't understand how you say "one civvie" v. two dying, but I understand the reluctance to contribute to a D1 civvie lynch.

By this logic though, we should never vote for someone who never posts because then what do we learn?

One civve in a night kill versus a night kill and a civvie lynch

Also, the only reason I brought up what do we learn thing was because it was a benefit you listed to voting randomly. Imo what we learn comes second in terms of importants to who we have a higher chance of killing.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Made wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom in fact clarified about that here: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 493#p85493

How does a no lynch make more sense, it gives the baddies an extra night to NK? And how do we learn nothing from killing a quiet mafia? That's not true. We get one mafia member down (yay math) and we could possibly learn information easily based on the way people vote.

Son, i gotcha maths
In a random lynch we have a 12/31 chance of killing a mafia (assuming the hidden roles are indy/mafia)
in a no lynch we don't kill civvie. I've never participated in the lynching of a mafia and the earliest I've ever seen a mafia lynched was Enrique in Monty.
in voting an active player ( i didn't mean to imply i would only consider especially high poster), while there's a chance that all active posters are civvie, we (ideally) increase our odds because we have post to make our decision off of.

Based on the fact that there is no clear "Hey this person is totally mafia" that everyone agrees on, i feel we might actually nab one.

Also, thanks, misread Dom's post.

linki- MR, welcome to my radar, please have a seat as I evaluate your angles.

Yes, but in a no lynch, we learn absolutely nothing about anyone's alignment, and allow an NK to happen. Even if we lynch a civvie on D1, at least it might give us information on catching a baddie in the future. (which is exactly what you're saying, right?)

So I'm not sure I totally understand.

I'm not saying that? I'm saying by voting someone who's actually posting, we increase or odds of finding mafia because the vote was influenced by suspicion rather than completely random. I'd much rather one civvie die than two personally.
In reference to your second post, the only thing we learn when we kill a random is that their intent was genuine. If a civvie didn't post much on topic what did we learn?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom in fact clarified about that here: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 493#p85493

How does a no lynch make more sense, it gives the baddies an extra night to NK? And how do we learn nothing from killing a quiet mafia? That's not true. We get one mafia member down (yay math) and we could possibly learn information easily based on the way people vote.

Son, i gotcha maths
In a random lynch we have a 12/31 chance of killing a mafia (assuming the hidden roles are indy/mafia)
in a no lynch we don't kill civvie. I've never participated in the lynching of a mafia and the earliest I've ever seen a mafia lynched was Enrique in Monty.
in voting an active player ( i didn't mean to imply i would only consider especially high poster), while there's a chance that all active posters are civvie, we (ideally) increase our odds because we have post to make our decision off of.

Based on the fact that there is no clear "Hey this person is totally mafia" that everyone agrees on, i feel we might actually nab one.

Also, thanks, misread Dom's post.

linki- MR, welcome to my radar, please have a seat as I evaluate your angles.

Dom wrote:I find some of the points on Enrique to be valid. I do. However, I couldn't help but notice how hypocritical MP is being.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Enrique wrote:No. It's suspicious that he used it without any indication that he was around when it was used.

I waited until Day 1. But you, sir, are my greatest suspect.

Wow, I actually agree here.

So you agree-- Enrique is your greatest suspect.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Fair, I don't feel very strongly about this Enrique suspicion, but I do believe in it, and I do think he very well could be bad. I wouldn't have voted him if we couldn't change votes, but since we can, thought I might as well.

MovingPictures07 wrote: So now here you go trying to subtly push that my behavior was really forced and over the top, just like Dana, yet you're "not making any accusations"?

I don't buy it.

Am I bad or not, Enri?

Seriously?

Does anyone know how this post is suppose to be read, he never clarified what exact he felt was hypocritical.

Linki- I guess suspicion isn't the right word. She's playing in a way i've never seen nor that i understand, so i think we should critically view all moves she makes.

I understand what everyone on my list seems to be attempting, whether it's playing to their meta, or otherwise. With those not on my list, I have no idea. We learn nothing killing a quiet mafia, and even less doing the more likely; killing a quiet civvie. If given the choice to randomize or no lynch, no lynch simply makes more sense.

linki- ok, so no no lynch. The way i see it, Juliet, angles are how people are being perceived. so if someone,for example, wants to be seen as "manic", they'll avoid situations that make them appear otherwise.

[quote="MovingPictures07"]Interesting point, Made. Do you find S~V~S suspicious then or not?

I think she should be on everyone's radar, so by that definition yes. Game plan right now, since no one seemed to object with my angles, is to go back and see if there's in conflicts with how a person wants to be perceived and how/what they're adding to the game. Who ever has the most conflicts will get my vote at this point. Like zeek, I'm not going to around when the vote proper takes place- Homecoming game!- so i hope thread speeds up before that point.

speaking of which, Ik someone mentioned that they thought the thread was moving very fast, but to me, the game seems to be really slow. Is this just what a normal game is like?


linki- better yet, no lynch? Bea, BWT?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not sure what to make of Nikki, it is her first game. I hope she gets the hang of it soon though!

Made wrote:OK, regardless of allignment, I feel i understand everyones angle accept for SVS'
Juliet- question game
Epi- lynch me, you won't
MP- Excited to be here, but everyone hates me and i have no clue why
Enrique- Excited to be here, but everyone hates me and i have no clue why
Zeek- Take no bullshit
Turnip- "MP sucks"
Everyone else- Lol, wait, what's a mafia??

SVS is playing a very meek game, I think ik what she's attempting, but I can't be sure until she tries something.

It should be noted, this is not a read list, but an angle list. Any angles ya'll don't agree with?

Linki- Sabie was the same way her first game, Iunno if that's usual new people behavior, but that's how i see it.

Lol, this cracks me up.

What do you mean re: S~V~S?

I'd expect a seasoned player to put up some sort of front or something. Make herself appear a certain way, but she hasn't. She's making her presence know but she's not taking point, or moving conversation in any direction. This is not to say she's flying under the radar, she seems to be on most everyones. Just not sure what she's doing yet anyways.

Just realized i need to reread Dom....
Linki- Meh, it's not the first time i've called the thread chat. IRC for lyfe tho.

*except

OK, regardless of allignment, I feel i understand everyones angle accept for SVS'
Juliet- question game
Epi- lynch me, you won't
MP- Excited to be here, but everyone hates me and i have no clue why
Enrique- Excited to be here, but everyone hates me and i have no clue why
Zeek- Take no bullshit
Turnip- "MP sucks"
Everyone else- Lol, wait, what's a mafia??

SVS is playing a very meek game, I think ik what she's attempting, but I can't be sure until she tries something.

It should be noted, this is not a read list, but an angle list. Any angles ya'll don't agree with?

Linki- Sabie was the same way her first game, Iunno if that's usual new people behavior, but that's how i see it.

zeek wrote:Nikki has voted but given absolutely no reasoning. Not even contributed to the conversation. Her only posts indicated she doesn't know what is happening. That is worrying given she's gone for one of the obvious candidates.

It's her first game, she probably doesn't know it's customary to say who you're voting for in chat.

Epignosis wrote: Even if I am bad, you'd be wasting a lynch. It's so funny it hurts to laugh!

Why?

Because I am Dr. WHOopass.

I'm just going to pretend that this play style is something that i pioneered if that's cool with everyone .

As for your argument, were you the first to voice the idea that you and MP were on a team? I don't remember hearing anyone else suggest that.

Epignosis wrote: MP isn't bad this time. He could be the independent, but he's not bad.

Deja vu

Yo, MP, from one batshit player to another, It's important to acknowledge that people don't like playing against people who use strategies they don't understand. Honestly, you had to of expected to take some votes over this, right?

Just maximize results and minimize damage by making sure everyone understands what you were trying to do and the results you got.

Also stop depending on your meta, that goes for everyone

._.

S~V~S wrote:Is it just me, maybe because he's pushing at me, but does Epignosis feel really, really evil to anyone? Every time I read one of his posts, I picture him like this:

Gonna reread him; to be fair he almost always seems sinister to me, but he usually has a more sinister edge when he's bad.

I'm reading Mad Genius which i'm assuming is the persona he's going for at this point. He hasn't pinged me yet so i'm letting it ride.

Snow Dog wrote:

Enrique wrote:"Supatown" has been used twice in this thread... once by Made, as a standard LD statement, and then zeek using it "in llama's words." Zeek, this is your first game here, right? Not even a Side Mission before? Caught on quickly to the lingo. Is this something you learnt from your BTSC partners?

I played quite a bit...what is supatown?

It's like Civvie, but with funny hats and mustaches!

I can edit my post???

juliets wrote:TH, when you are talking about "gambit" I get the impression it is the same thing as making a bullshit move, but then again your use of the word gambit makes me think it means something special. What does "gambit" mean to you as used in this MP discussion? And you brought up some points that I hadn't really thought about in the way you stated them.

Gambits (in terms of chess anyways) is a move where you give up something (normally a piece or positioning) In hopes of gaining something later. Tons of fun when executed well in mafia. The important thing to realize where the gambit actually lies in this scenario.

when MP faked his opinions on Zeek with the intent of gaining information two things could of happened( that i could think of anyways....)
If it succeeds: MP gains reads on people that could directly lead to a lynch

If it fails: MP has to reveal that he changed his mind, and looks like a baddie attempting to bail on a bad lynch

Imo, he screwed up twice: He showed his hand too early and didn't account enough for the fact that people don't like to be manipulated.

There's always the possibility that he did actually distrust zeek at the beginning of the game for the reasons he stated, but based on how odd the argument against Zeek was, i find that unlikely as asking about roles isn't very suspicious imo.

linki- If civvie vibes existed everyone would have them.

zeek wrote:Re: MP's ruse.

If every player had agreed with him, I'd be getting lynched and there would be nothing he could have done to change that. It's irresponsible play if he's a townie because I did nothing to deserve a target on my back.

MP played it in a way where the argument was pretty shitty and shouldn't of sticked, and it didn't. My thing is, MP, how did you expect us to respond to you suspicion of Zeek in regards to yourself?

Epignosis wrote:

Made wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I am telling you to vote for Enrique. What do I have to gain from this?

If he is lynched and is bad, then I get Night killed.

If he is lynched and is good, then I get lynched.

Which is par for the course for me.

Vote for Enrique.

The Suicidal Civvie Gambit. Having been on the opposite side of this gambit, i must say, you can get a very fun chain of civvies dying if you're not careful. Assuming you and Enrique are civvie, this would lead to a train of more civvies jumping on to kill the person who killed the previous civvie.

Linki- Isn't Enrique already president?

I'm not careful.

Good night.

Epignosis wrote:I am telling you to vote for Enrique. What do I have to gain from this?

If he is lynched and is bad, then I get Night killed.

If he is lynched and is good, then I get lynched.

Which is par for the course for me.

Vote for Enrique.

The Suicidal Civvie Gambit. Having been on the opposite side of this gambit, i must say, you can get a very fun chain of civvies dying if you're not careful. Assuming you and Enrique are civvie, this would lead to a train of more civvies jumping on to kill the person who killed the previous civvie.

Linki- Isn't Enrique already president?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm going to need to re-read the way everything went down and see if I can pick out anything else, and of course there's still plenty to happen...

I'm really starting to doubt the Enrique deal, but I don't know. Dammit, I really thought I was onto something. Well, hopefully my gambit wasn't in vain. :P

I'm going back to review the post Enri made about others. I remember something kinda pinging me about how a question was being proposed back when we were talking about easy lynches.

linki- I didn't vote lol. And thank you Dana, means a lot bud.