The Syndicate

wow im dumb i didnt read the post nvm sorry

I'm assuming it goes straight to Marone/Falcone?

We also don't know what team he was in, he could be one of tomorrow's killers.

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I feel bad for his team.

Glorfindel wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:By the way, if anyone were remotely interested in my take on the GTH process I'd be happy to contribute. I'm guessing that it would however be a complete waste of my time...

On the contrary. It would be an incredibly incredibly valuable thing imo.

Very well...

Bass_the_clever: Good (but deserves a closer look)
Bubbles: Good
Bullszye: Initially good (starting to have serious doubts)
Dharmerhelper: Probably OK
Dom: Not sure but I doubt pure Town
Golden: Town/Town-leaning independent
Glorfindel: Pure as the driven snow
Juliets: Good (pretty confident)
Ekeknat: Likely bad
Equivocate:
Lorab: Town/potentially independent
MacDougall: Good
Matt: Good/potentially independent
MetalMarsh89: Bad
Moving Pictures: Good (and misguided)
Sorsha: Good (but I'd want to look closer on this one)
Sprityo: Independent
S-V-S: Independent/bad
The Floyd73:
Turnip Head: Good (but seriously misguided)
Typhoony: Independent/bad

Is that everyone except me?

Turnip Head wrote:

Enrique wrote:Got the ball rolling for you, juliets. Let's lynch sprityo.

You don't think he's Freeze?

I think he's bluffing, pulling every trick to avoid being lynched. He tried the emotional appeal with Dom, didn't work, now "ok whatever i dont need to be playing" and people bought it without much of an issue.

Plus, Epi confirmed that Freeze doesn't learn when he's won. (he did right?... he said that about Ra's, not 100% sure on Freeze but I asked)

I just voted

Got the ball rolling for you, juliets. Let's lynch sprityo.

MacDougall wrote:So Freeze wins even if he's lynched?

I'm pretty sure I asked earlier if he had to be alive and the answer was no.

sprityo "doesn't need to be in the game anymore," am I the only one curious to confirm he's not bullshitting?

I know that's what you're saying, because that's the only reason you've put forth. You've dismissed every argument against it simply by making up a scenario where she's still bad anyway. Frankly, that's not enough. I'm not attacking you dude I'm just confused about what you're trying to get at.

She voted for Mac, what else? I don't think her not coinciding with sabie on the last three nights means as much as you think it does. They didn't vote for the same place in three nights, so what? I've never coincided with them, either. They still kept going to places the other had visited before, where they would've found the same info. There's not really a lot to this.

You call it flawed arguments, Golden, but I see it as you poking holes in them to point that we can't be sure of anything, which I'm not sure is being disputed at all. People exchange reasons why they feel on way or another, but no one seems as certain of anything as you are that she's a threat.

Yes you're hearing other arguments etc., but as far as I can tell, you've had your mind set on proving her guilt all the way through.

Golden wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.

What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?

I'm getting this exact vibe. Like what does make her bad?

What makes her good?

Yeahh this is a complete deflection. I don't know what makes her good, I'm not making that case.

Turnip Head wrote:

Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.

What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?

I'm getting this exact vibe. Like what does make her bad?

Enrique wrote:I actually don't think that's a terrible idea... I mean, at least it's more sensible than arbitrarily choosing what to share. They both went to Arkham and GCPD, so all Mafia know those. I'd be willing to share Arkham if it's fine by everyone.

Opinions on this, btw?

... well it's not my fault you didn't correct yourself earlier.

Your post makes more sense with that in mind, but I still don't feel good about this.

"She acted differently in a game where the circumstances were different." Well... okay. That leaves me with nothing.

I don't see a self-vote as a baddie tell

What makes this different? And the AWR scenario isn't an answer, it doesn't come into play at all.

linki- Explain what that has to do with my post? You're making excuses for her behavior to match your preconceived bias. When talking strictly about the self-vote, you're forcing a scenario where there's nothing to go on. The point is that the whole post I quoted is making her look bad for the sake of it. I have no problem with there being a case on SVS based on the Mac vote, I have some problems with making other faulty connections to get her lynched.

What if sabie says 'don't worry about it' and the third person is an absentee or something?

Like, this isn't a point. It's a made up scenario and it still gives us no indication of a baddie tell anywhere.

Golden wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:FWIW I don't think SVS is bad here. In World Reborn she fought until the bitter end, even when her goose was all but cooked. I think she's just tired of having her character called into question here. Her voting for herself is frustrating but I don't think it's a baddie tell.

I don't see a self-vote as a baddie tell, but she was also fighting for the win of a team full of people who really care about winning, like tranq and Typh, in a team that had every chance of winning till the very end. She was always going to do everything in her power there. What if sabie says 'don't worry about it' and the third person is an absentee or something?

I do take your point, I hadn't seen SVS self-voted, but for me that isn't enough to say 'she definitely isn't bad'.

This post just seems incredibly off to me. I'm having a lot of trouble articulating why, but basically, it just seems redundant? Like on one hand you're agreeing with TH, but you also feel the need to make an unnecessary connection to sabie by using a game in which the opposite scenario happened. Does this make sense? It's like you just went out on your way to cling to SVS' reaction as a talking point, while seemingly washing your hands of the matter.

idk I get "open-minded" and all but the whole post just looks really unnecessary. Nobody said she "definitely isn't bad" so what were you getting at at all?

That seems like an odd argument to make tbh.

I actually don't think that's a terrible idea... I mean, at least it's more sensible than arbitrarily choosing what to share. They both went to Arkham and GCPD, so all Mafia know those. I'd be willing to share Arkham if it's fine by everyone.

More. I wish I had that info as much as anyone else, but posting it publicly is straight handing it to the mafia.

DharmaHelper wrote:It's mad late and I promise I'll do the legwork of this at some point but check this shit out:

I bet if we cross reference the list of players who voted to go to locations other than the ones sabie went to with the list of say, Mac or Sprityo or w/e voter, we will end up with a pretty meaty case for her teammate(s).

I actually did this last night, more or less. Sabie had at least one location in common with evey player after excluding Bass/Bubbles/Equivocate/Floyd/MM.

Why not?

Have you been poisoned before TH?

sabie is still on the poll

Epignosis wrote:This much I can tell you: we have strong voices working on this case. Many are doing side projects to round up those escaped inmates but for the most part, I would trust the big personalities. The quiet ones are the ones that I would ask to speak up or you may be brought in for suspicion.

I wouldn't oppose cutting some dead weight today. It's kinda ridiculous that at Day 6 we still have players who haven't voted in a single poll.

Which, to be fair, is only Floyd. Bass and Equivocate at least voted in like, one.

Enrique wrote:Hey SVS, meet you at the Docks?

Nah nvm.

Hey SVS, meet you at the Docks?

MacDougall wrote:

Enrique wrote:I don't think SVS is an inmate, no more than Bullzeye at least.

Mmm why?

Stay tuned. Cop out answer, but I need to do some proper detective work first.

I don't think SVS is an inmate, no more than Bullzeye at least.

Voted sabie. Sorry, I'm gonna be busy as hell this week. I'm still around just don't expect my usual levels of activity.

I'm super beat from school and work and know I'm not contributing a lot today, but I swear I'll get my shit together ASAP. I still owe MP a response to his rainbow analysis and I haven't made a proper case on sabie yet other than a few loosie posts, but I still think she's almost certainly bad and should be lynched today.

I'd look out for any players trying to turn your thing with juliets into a big deal... Golden already did that, more or less. I agree with whatever SVS said about not voting for either of you peeps and we should wait for Gordon to clarify. It's got me thinking about SVS' posts in general. She's a good player.

DharmaHelper wrote:What're you thinkin' Enrique?

That Metalmarsh must get the same info every night

But am I telling the truth?

I feel really dumb for going to the same place twice.

How do we solve the mystery? By getting all of the answers or is just one villain okay?

Let's lynch sabie.

Hey TH repeat after me

aboard
about
above
across
after
against
along
amid
among
anti
around
as
at
before
behind
below
beneath
beside
besides
between
beyond
but
by
concerning
considering
despite
down
during
except
excepting
excluding
following
for
from
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inside
into
like
minus
near
of
off
on
onto
opposite
outside
over
past
per
plus
regarding
round
save
since
than
through
to
toward
towards
under
underneath
unlike
until
up
upon
versus
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within
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juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Let me tell you about dat Scarecrow, I think it's time we go Scarecrow hunting if y'all know what I mean.

I hope the scarecrow asked you to kill Scarecrow.

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Hmm. That's an odd choice in my book. I didn't see her getting much beef from anyone. A safe kill for mafia maybe?

I don't see the Juliets correlation in what Gordon wrote, DH?? That quote is about coffee.

Linki: what links you and coffee, Juliets? That you take it intravenously or something?

My user name started out being 'juliets coffee' and then i shortened it to juliets. Thats why some people call me JC.

Ah! I had no idea. Well that's interesting. Do you think Gordon is someone that has a lot of history with you, Jules?

I don't know but i don't think he meant me when he mentioned coffee.

He meant Mac when he mentioned mac and cheese, why not you when he mentions coffee?

Well it really doesn't matter what I think all that matters is whether he meant it or not. So Gordon, if you meant to refer to me as scum please do it again tomorrow.

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Two face
Two face

Explain that.

Mr. Freeze if you blocked the same people as last time that'd be super cool

juliets wrote:

Enrique wrote:Turnip Head noooo

Enrique why the cry of "noooo"?

There was speculation earlier that the Riddler was disappearing people. TH getting cursed then not talking all night isn't a good sign.

Turnip Head noooo

That was my interpretation of the role, at least.

Turnip Head wrote:Un MP lynch is unleekely tu yeeeld a meffeea fleep in my oopeeniun boot I cun see-a he's gueeng tu be-a a pueent ooff deescoossiun es lung es he's in zee geme-a. I'll gledly iet my het iff he-a fleeps meffeea boot I'm tune-a reedeeng heem es genooeene-a. Glurffeendel is mure-a leekely tu be-a meffeea. I theenk Scutty mede-a a greet oobserfeshun ebuoot heem. Vhee esked vhu he-a soospects he-a curcled eruoond sume-a nemes insteed ooff cummeetting tu unytheeng. Zee ceefiliun Glurffeendel I reed in Peekmin is noohere-a tu be-a fuoond. Bork bork bork!

I'm futeeng fur Glurffeendel.

Turnip Head I see you online, did you get dungeon'd?

Matt, the "as yet" to me reads as... he doest have a team yet, but he will, when he chooses one. I don't think the Thorne role has any secrets, it seems pretty clear cut to me.