The Syndicate

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:28 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:33 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:00 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:41 pm I was godawful in 2018.

Me too. I believe I've won twice in my last ten games.

I haven't won since I've been back blahh

You came close here though, down to the last day.

I lived really long in world asunder too but alas we still lost oh well. I was just happy I lived as long as I did haha

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:00 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:41 pm I was godawful in 2018.

Me too. I believe I've won twice in my last ten games.

I haven't won since I've been back blahh

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:38 am Man deadchat didn't suspect me

I was sweating bullets

I suspected you

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:36 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:34 pm No one ever listens to me.
I enjoy the way you presented my award presentation. I really don't feel good about this game though

You fought as hard as you could, and that's all anyone can ever ask of you. I'm proud of what you did in this game. You were in such a difficult position, and you nearly got through that unscathed anyway! Hold your head high. Sometimes even good civilian efforts fall just a bit short.

And you voted for speedchuck, the real mafia!

Twice I voted him but no one believes me. Sighhhh. I feel like I should have just said "do it bitch" when they were threatening to lynch me.

No one ever listens to me.
I enjoy the way you presented my award presentation. I really don't feel good about this game though

Well congrats on your win today mafia and nutella
I'm sorry I let down my town peeps. I feel like I put forth a valiant effort. Try not to be too mad at me for failing please and thanks.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:06 pmSloot lolol

Can we call him that from now on? Sloot haha

Ah speed defending me and saying you think I'm genuine and understanding my plight as the scapegoat for this lynch yet you still ended up voting me.

Well if nutella is indie and sloonei is just being his usual self I would be perhaps inclined to move my vote to speed.

In that space force game I might add I was right about dizzy being the other baddie and no one believed me because I voted dizzy and everyone else voted quin who got lynched and flipped bad. People gave me flack for that and then I ended up getting killed off and then ultimately we ended up losing in the end.

My phone did that weird thing to the word maybe haha it wasn't supposed to look like that

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:48 pm I meant to put a question on the end of that for you, @sabie12. How do you respond to that argument?

I dont know really. I just am going to feel really bad if I get mislynched and then the civs lose. Then people will be all well if only you tried harder and did this instead of that. I don't want everyone to be upset with me because it'll be my fault we lose.


As to the point sloonei just made I have suspected speed before and have voted for him before. It is still possible he could be bad. If sloonei isnt bad and nutellas only real thing is the voting against svs. I guess i can see how mamaymamaybmamaymamaybe she thought the svs lynch was too easy I almost thought that too. maybe we should be looking at speed?

I don't know who killed Luna or why they did. I initially was like oh people qill think it was me because I suspected her but then thinking more on it I was like wait that would be dumb and wouldnt make sense. I am probably more suspicious of nutella than speed because of the svs lynch. I guess sloonei you just play how you always do. Talking a lot and try to get other people talking. I mean I've gathered that's just your play style. As the day initiated and I was the suspect I thought maybe sloonei is setting me up. Also, wasn't saying anyone was dissing my playstyle more so explaining that due to not having a computer, my posts aren't always as long and detailed.

Sorry that I really am not as good at putting together arguments and copy pasting a bunch of old posts and writing a bunch of tldr posts on reads of every player. I seriously do commend you on being able to do that. I don't have a computer or the mind to do it so I got nothing. All I can tell you guys is that it's not me and I've literally (Epignosis' favorite word) never lied about anything this game. If no one believes me then no one believes me. Me arguing the same thing over and over does nothing for me. Just like in world asunder where people thought I was bad because of a statement being interpreted wrong. I was a civ then and am now.

Idk I didnt really have a major case on sloonei just that i know I'm civ and hes hardcore pushing a lynch against me so I had put my vote there. The remaining scum has to find someone to push a lynch against that isnt them. Sloonei has been working on building a case against me and the person I was suspecting ends up getting killed off. I realize that's not great reasoning necessarily but that was my thought process.Nutellas issue is that she was last minute trying to go against the svs lynch when no one else was so I'd also be willing to vote her.

Luna was killed off and I dont see what I ever would have had to gain from that if it were me that did it. Why would I ever do that? It would be a really stupid decision on my part and I dont know why people think I would have done that. If I were bad why wouldn't I have killed off someone who was suspecting me like sloonei rather than someone I was suspicious of? Idk it just seems silly to me. Sucks that no one ever listens to me so we're gonna lose. My nonchalance this game has been more due to personal life stress. Also as I said if I had had teammates I could have been way more sure about what I was doing. I wouldn't have been so lost and confused. I mean everyone will see I wasn't lying in the end so I guess that's all I can take solace in.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:13 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:31 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:28 pm Lol yeah nvm that post nearly confirms sabie is bad

How? I'm saying why would I be that stupid. I mean I've played poorly but I'm not dumb. If I were bad I would have done things differently. If you guys really do think I'm that dumb though then oh well.

We don't think you're dumb. Just taking advantage of a WIFOM excuse. It's actually a smart move but if you show your hand with an unprompted line it's not the most effective.

I brought it up because I'm saying I'm on to the baddie strategy. Trying to frame me by killing off luna. They think they're being clever and maybe they are if the others believe it. They weren't going to kill me because I had enough suspicion on me to bring about a mislynch. Sloonei comes in with all this stuff against me to bring that about. I'm just saying I wouldn't have done something so obvious because that would just be a dumb move on my part.

I am civ I don't want the civs to lose because of me getting mislynched. Idk sloonei is the one making a major case against me. Nutella is the one who randomly tried to get a different train going instead of svs. And I had brought up suspicion on speed before. I'd have to do a bit more reading and such to figure it out.

Well good job whichever of you is bad. You've successfully created a scapegoat out of me. Guess I gotta wait a whole 24 hours for that to be revealed but whatevz. Guess that means I can just go live my life and not bother with this anymore. Congrats to you.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:28 pm Lol yeah nvm that post nearly confirms sabie is bad

How? I'm saying why would I be that stupid. I mean I've played poorly but I'm not dumb. If I were bad I would have done things differently. If you guys really do think I'm that dumb though then oh well.

RIP Luna sorry I thought you were sketchy. Going with sloonei since he's the one making the biggest case against me and I know I'm not bad. I don't even know what the case against me is. That I was bad at finding the baddies this game? I wasn't the only one. I'm pretty sure who ever the remaining baddie is killed off Luna to make me look bad since I was suspecting her. I pretty much figured that was going to be their move. I mean if I was the remaining baddie why would I openly kill off the person I was suspicious of? Wouldn't you kill someone else off and then lead a lynch on the person you've been suspecting? Or maybe I'm wrong. Either way good job at making me look bad baddies. I was super hoping to finally have a civ win for once.

My only interaction with svs was to say I thought it was weird she said bye to the civs that died and she said she was upset so I felt bad because I was feeling super down. If that's the only thing you have to go on for me it's pretty weak. Sucks if I get mislynched this game. That hasnt happened to me since I've been back but I guess it happens to the best of us.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:54 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:50 pm Glad we got another one! And nah my thing was I thought Lunas behavior was more sketchy than svs but I was willing to vote svs. I still don't see a reason those two couldn't have been teammates. I still don't see why people suspect me other than the mafia team or potentially one member left needs someone for the civs to mislynch. Since I've been blah this game I'm an easy target for that.

Process of elimination is still the strongest point against you.

Are you saying that everybody who suspects you is mafia trying to frame you?

No more like whoever is left just has to put enough seeds of doubt out there about me to get a mislynch going as a last resort effort to not lose. I can see that I would be an easy target since I've just been so blah about things this game.

Glad we got another one! And nah my thing was I thought Lunas behavior was more sketchy than svs but I was willing to vote svs. I still don't see a reason those two couldn't have been teammates. I still don't see why people suspect me other than the mafia team or potentially one member left needs someone for the civs to mislynch. Since I've been blah this game I'm an easy target for that.

I can see svs being bad and I could see her and Luna being teammates. I know that was a suspicion earlier and is still a possibility. At this point if we are moving towards an svs lynch I'll go along with it. If that's the only option. We don't have a lot of time left and I'm about to go to the store.

Luna still trying to make me look bad to take suspicion off of herself. I've explained why I thought speed was bad and then I didnt get an opportunity to come back and change votes. Sorry I wasnt around to participate in the Luna vs ddl debate. Maybe there isn't really a debate because they're both bad? I don't know

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:30 pm I'm running a dnd game tonight, but I'll see if I have time to step in. I'm cool with a SVS or Sabie lynch. Unless Sloonei is bad, those two are pretty likely. Or Luna, but I don't think she's been guile-y enough this game to be bad.

Apparently I forgot to vote Sabie earlier, but I'll vote SVS now. Good to consolidate wagons.

I was playing d and d today too

I missed svs claiming other than just saying she was a civ which I mean people can say whatever they want when role claiming


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nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:37 pm Or, sloonei's bad and has orchestrated this whole thing

Which part are you saying sloonei is orchestrating? I mean I could maybe see him doing that since hes so vocal about what everyone does.

That was supposed to say Luna not lina. Weird autocorrect

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:59 pm if sabie is town though, one of sloonei/speed is bad

I am town. What makes you suspect sloonei or speed?
Also I think I missed it but what is the reason we think lina and SVS cannot be teammates? I just looked through svs and she does deny it but also she accused Luna and then defended her. Not saying that means anything for sure but just wondering.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:17 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:13 pm Maaaaaan I wish I had teammates then I may have actually been more into this game and not nearly as depressed. Like seriously. I feel like I'm floating on an island by myself with no idea what to do. Then even if someone actually reads what I say to agree with me it changes in an instant. I don't understand the case against me and I have a hard time reading and comprehending the super long posts. I'll have to read Luna and SVS again. Luna seemed more sketchy to me.

Why does Luna seem more sketchy?

Her all over the place behavior. Quickly following other people right after making a case on someone else. Like trying to agree with everyone so no one suspects her? The statement that Enrique being good makes her look good. She had even said oh maybe I'll follow everyone and vote for him beforehand. The thing where she agreed with me about speed then when I voted she was like oh that must mean sabie is bad never mind no speed now. I just found it all to be kind of weird but maybe that's just her style

Maaaaaan I wish I had teammates then I may have actually been more into this game and not nearly as depressed. Like seriously. I feel like I'm floating on an island by myself with no idea what to do. Then even if someone actually reads what I say to agree with me it changes in an instant. I don't understand the case against me and I have a hard time reading and comprehending the super long posts. I'll have to read Luna and SVS again. Luna seemed more sketchy to me.

RIP gman sorry I accused you in the beginning.

Why are people accusing me exactly? Is it because I agreed with my own suspicion of speedchuck and voted for him? If so that still makes no sense to me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:40 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:26 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:21 pm So G-Man is town.

I am suddenly even more unsure as to the rest of you. Though, just looking at the votes... That was hella dangerous. I think we can figure out a lot from that.

linki: Might not be a good look for Luna either. This vote would have been easy to sway.

HOW IS THAT NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR ME. I ALMOST DIED.

Because you didn't?

If you were town, and the lynch was tied town-scum, it would have only taken a nudge. That nudge didn't happen for some reason.

We had a similar lynch back in... Mortal Kombat? Anyway, it might be that you just already had scum on you. There aren't that many scum in this game, and DDL wasn't on you...

Actually, yeah. It's likely that you had one or two scum on you. Sabie might also be scum. In that case, you'd be town.

Finally got one this game! I was between voting you and ddl but alas I ended up going out and not really being here to change my vote. If I actually was scum I would probably have participated more this game because I would have had someone to talk to or have any idea what to do ever. I found it weird how Luna was all yeah speed is bad then when I agreed she's like nah dude why are you agreeing with your own opinion you must be super sketchy.

Are you saying you don't want people to agree with you and you didn't actually ever suspect speed?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:07 pm sabie sure was quick to join my vote on speed. Don't know if I like that too much. I'm switching to DDL though for now because he did look suspicious with the nutella push, and speed posted DDL's quotes in such a way that just really condemns the guy.

I had just posted my thoughts on why I thought speed was bad then you agreed you thought he was bad too. Now that I voted for him you all of a sudden don't agree anymore and want me to reexplain.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:19 am If you look at gmans vote spreadsheet speed and ddl consistently voted on all confirmed civs thus far.

I'm thinking we should lynch speed. Nothing about him screams town this game.

linki Hi speed

I'm between the two but after thoroughly reading I'm going to vote speed for now.

random note thanks for being supportive this game speed even though I suspect, you you've been nice in response to my posts where I've been sad so I appreciate that

Also RIP kyle and reywas and congrats winners!

So speed started off going after inactives which is always a good way to mislynch someone so not a great idea early in the game. He speculates on how many mafia members there are. He says he will vote ddl but quickly changes to reywas who ended up being civ. Maybe ddl is a teammate he didnt really want to vote for but had to seem like he was going to. So I can see where the suspicion comes from.

If you look at gmans vote spreadsheet speed and ddl consistently voted on all confirmed civs thus far.

I agree with kyle going with ddl

Sorry I've been so not great this game. My depression has been very bad and I apologize for not being very involved.

Ugh i think I'm destined to lose every mafia game ever sigh.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:47 pm Fixed.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:38 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:35 pm The more I think about this, the more it upsets me, actually, @ sabie12 .

Do you honestly think I am being flippant about civvies dying becasue I said "bye" not "RIP"? Do you really think that is a baddie tell?

No not at all I was like saying that was the only thing I could possibly get from you which isn't much of anything. I was in no way planning on turning that small thing into voting for you. Gman was accusing you and I was saying that's literally the only thing I could think of. I am not accusing you more like just curious on the word choice.

I know some people who stopped making any reaction post at all becasue they got into issues just like this, and I was gonna say, if you think I am bad, find a real reason to vote for me ha ha. I know semantics arguments have become in again, but I always found them overrated.

Linki, no you did not personally upset me, Sweetie. It's all game face

I think ever since my brain thing I just get self conscious about the fact that I word things badly and people can take what I say the wrong way because of it sometimes.

Idk I'm just going to vote spirityo even though we have nothing to go on. I guess no one has stepped up to replace him and he hasn't done anything other than accuse a civ one time and then leave and not vote or anything.

I don't want to upset people sighhhh I'm sorry!

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:35 pm The more I think about this, the more it upsets me, actually, @sabie12 .

Do you honestly think I am being flippant about civvies dying becasue I said "bye" not "RIP"? Do you really think that is a baddie tell?

No not at all I was like saying that was the only thing I could possibly get from you which isn't much of anything. I was in no way planning on turning that small thing into voting for you. Gman was accusing you and I was saying that's literally the only thing I could think of. I am not accusing you more like just curious on the word choice.

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:36 pm Mafia is:

@Dragon D. Luffy
@Kylemii
@S~V~S

And your reasoning is? The one thing that got me with svs was her saying bye epi and mac rather than RIP. Like who cares we just lost 2 more civs. That nonchalance over who cares we lost civs thing was also why I was suspecting gman.

I dont know on kyle and ddl. Nutella I could see as being bad. Very over zealous about the Enrique thing. She is very defensive and accusing epi who ended up being good.

Idk about spirit he's posted literally twice and once only to say epi was bad when he wasnt. It would suck if we lynch him and hes not bad but theres no way to know really because he has said nothing and never voted. If hes not going to be replaced then I guess I see why people want to get rid of him.

I don't like lunas comment on Enrique being good making her look good. And shes kinda following whatever nutella says. Idk if that's a teammate thing or an unsure what to do thing.

Gman says he is vanilla on the chart but we dont actuall have that confirmed. If he were bad it would be a great way to make civs look bad by saying he was good when he wasn't.

I'm really at a loss this game. Don't feel like I have any idea what to do. Those are some random thoughts. Idk

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:03 pm Aw man I thought sloo was voting for Rey too, when did he switch to sab?

Awhile ago because I said welcome unless youre bad. I assume it was just to get me to talk more or something because that seems to be his style.

Sloonei wants to accuse me because I said welcome unless you're bad. That's how I always talk. Ive said that before. And you actually said in response to being asked if you're mafia "sure" right at the same time soooo I feel like it was fair of me to say.

Welcome to the game sloonei unless you're bad. Thanks for the chart g man I didn't see the polls posted on the front page. I see you've taken the liberty of filling in vanilla on yourself even though that isn't necessarily confirmed haha.

I was at a hockey game last night good times our home team won

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:20 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:30 am I know I'm not one of the cool players that anyone wants around or cares about playing with sorry. I was at least right that voting Enrique wasnt the right move.

Wrong. You're totes cool.

RIP Eko.

Thanks dude much appreciated!

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:37 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:32 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:19 pm A bit relieved that Enrique flipped town. That makes me look good.

You didn't quote the whole post.

And I said literally this out loud to speedchuck, so I thought I should post it in the thread to be fair.

Perhaps just a not thinking how that might sound before posting thing?

My voting for gman is because hes very nonchalant about being okay with a civ being lynched as long as the game keeps moving and he just goes after people who barely participated so theres nothing to go on.