The Syndicate

Gonna stick my vote there for now

Mongoose likes DH's rebuttal you give DAY 6.

She doesn't want to vote DH on DAY 6,

She doesn't have a problem on DAY 7 [url]when Snowy is for the chop.[/url]

True. I'm open to lynching either Boom or Mongoose, but I feel Mongoose might be the better option here. If you agree she's a good candidate, given the 3-vowel clue, she could be Voldemort. I'd rather take out Voldemort than Crowley, given the secrets.

MP, what do you think of Boom and Mongoose?

I've just noticed Snow Dog voted Boom when DF got lynched. Turned out not to mean anything but at the time DH had only two voted and DF had none. One thing that worries me about voting Boom is that he could have voted DH when Snowy was lynched, but didn't. If he had DH would have led 7-6.

linki - civ-minded individual?

Ah, I remember now I was confused because you gave Blooper her first vote.

What are your thoughts on Mongoose? I'm probably voting that way again.

DharmaHelper wrote:Anyway, voting for Boom since I believe he is a Sorcerer and I think I've made that clear.

When?

linki - because they were the only Sorcerer kills and it appears the Suit team is gone.

Ermm...

Guess that means Roxy, Russ or INH was a Suit.

Tomorrow I'll be looking at Mongoose, Boomslang and Spacedaisy.

I think I get what you are saying finally, haha.

Turns out I was wrong anyway, they're two heads on one body. I was thinking of another episode of Maury Povich.

Snow Dog wrote:

zeek wrote:Pfft, even I know who the twins are who are conjoined by the head.

I don't know if that makes you feel superior, knowing something like this that some of us didn't know. I frankly could not give a toss that I was ignorant of this.

Unnecessary, I was just messing about.

Haha, nice one.

Pfft, even I know who the twins are who are conjoined by the head.

S~V~S, I can see how frustrated you've been this game and how hard you're working to do the best with you're role. Honestly, I can see your perspective in this but you must see mine. I saw what you were saying but I didn't put it together. If you know what happened to me you should know why I did not connect it to you. It is very much connected to another role, nothing magical about it. At least none implied in the PM I got. You don't have to trust me, you don't have to trust timmer, but look at what you did to me and think about why you should.

As for the vote, I am more confident in Mongoose. When Blooper voted Snow Dog it was 6-6 with DH. She may be sorcerer and threw him under the bus, but she was second to last to vote and didn't have to. Mongoose, however, was the one who made it 6-6 and I think is a better fit for Snowy's teammate.

I didn't know you were talking about what happened to me. It didn't seem like a Snape thing at all, not even remotely.

It's not is it? You're goin to get me lynched today or killed tonight

Ridiculous.

I can't, I'm in work

Do you even know what you sent? If you do, work out why timmer might know what's going on.

Gift? How is what happened to me a gift?

I didn't know who did it. How could I let on when I don't consider this a gift at all? I don't exactly want one person in particular to know.

You're not exactly an unknown here, you'd be a prime candidate to switch targets on. Curses and such, they would obviously target someone not in their group.

Seriously, lynching me is a bad way to go and it will teach you nothing thanks to your "gift"

I have always supported you being Snape over Voldemort, I wouldn't do that if I was bad. And now, now you're going to lynch me for something YOU apparently did to me. I had no idea who transformed me. You're at fault here, not me.

Linki How can I wink over something I thought was a game event?

I can't info dump. I'm civ though. This is a crucial point in the game, don't make a mistake here.

I got... changed. But not for the worse. You're making a mistake lynching me.

Timmer knows. Believe him.

It appears SVS is talking about me and I have absolutely no idea what she is talking about. Something happened it me earlier in the game but I didn't cause it. I will explain more if I can when I finish work in 4 hours, depending on what Epi says. I am seriously not a sorcerer and haven't had any involvement in your powers.

LC, wait till you carry on reading and see I was practically the first to raise Snow Dog as a suspect and the first to vote for him.

What exactly do you suspect me of, Daisy?

I have no time today, but I should be back before the end of the lynch. I'm going to vote now but I'm less confident over this one than I have been the previous two lynches, so I'm open to changing it if something more compelling comes up. I'm very interested in what Long Con and S~V~S have to say over this message thing.

So, I'm voting Mongoose. Voting record and general bad vibes I'm getting, especially jokey responses to my suspicion of her.

Spacedaisy wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Well that's just outright ridiculous. There are baddie/indie secrets, and he could just be lying. Saying he "knows" you are civ means nothing. Using that as the basis to trust him is completely ridiculous at this stage in the game.

I am the easiest baddie target for a lynch train out there. It makes no sense that he would say I am civ and he knows it unless he is civ and trying to keep us from making a mistake. What would he gain from it? My trust? That won't carry water with anyone else inthe game since everyone and their brother is questioning me and considering voting me. The logic doesn't support him being bad. The logic does support him being civ.

No, that is ridiculous. You've never seen a baddie say he knows such-and-such is civ? Please. Baddies buddy up all the time. Because someone trusts you, doesn't mean you should trust them.

Mongoose wrote:I actually have 4 vowels in my name!

But yeah, I wasn't trying to be a sneaky snake with my verbiage about having a wand, just playing around. Thought it'd be a fun way to disclose I'm not actually a sorcerer...

I just play one on TV.

Dude, I won't even fight you on that, my voting has been heinously "interesting" to say the least :/

If I was trying, I could not have a worse voting pattern.

Are you Voldemort?

S~V~S wrote:

Long Con wrote:So, a few things to say here.

I got a message last night from Snape. I'll see what I want to share from that later. <snip>

You did????????¿?

*Moves to edge of seat*

Boomslang wrote:On further review of the evidence, I've come around to the SVS as civ conclusion; I apologize for not getting there more quickly. In terms of the other candidates, I know I'm not a Sorcerer, and I'm getting good vibes on a reread of Blooper, especially in the baddie hunt for Made.

Who else do you get good vibes from?

Also, Mongoose is missing from that list.

So, sorcerers:

bea - likely not if hints took into account
Boomslang - voted neither Dom or Snowy (throwaway vote for S~V~S)
Elo - likely not if hints took into account
juliets - probably not, voted Snowy (making Snowy 5-4 DH)
Mongoose - missed Bass-Dom, voted DH (making 6-6 Snowy)
nijuukyugou - probably not, voted Snowy (making Snowy 7-6 DH)
Roxy - don't know why DH ruled this out
Russtifinko - likely not, voted Snowy (making Snowy 6-4 DH)
zeek - I know I'm not, suspected Snowy before anyone and gave him his first vote]

Not so explicitly. I'm willing to accept this as genuine though.

Having done some re-reads and revisited llama's lynch, I am satisfied DH is neither Mafia, and juliets and Blooper are not Suits.

One thing that stood out is that llama was lynched 10-8 over Made. DF voted his teammate Made, making it 9-7. Then reywas voted Made and Boom voted llama. I don't know what to make of this.


linki - Info dump.

You are all forgetting juliets and, if you've been paying attention in this game, cross me off that list.

Correction - Ignore that Made-llama bit, I keep forgetting Made was a Suit! :P

Thoughts on Long Con... he doesn't have a hat. We learnt this because he presumably did not do as Boddy directed him. The only Mafia left without a hat is Voldemort and everytime we know a Sorcerer has been up for a lynch (except Snow Dog) he voted for them, even llama-Made. He has my trust.

Thoughts on Mongoose... she has 3 vowels in her name. Again, Boddy consequences probably. And again, the only Mafia remaining with 3 vowels is Voldemort. Lot less cut and clear with her voting however. She missed Bass-Dom and voted DH over Snow Dog. Does this make her bad? I don't know, but she is high on my Sorcerer list.

When he said he thought he could see bea being bad?

timmer - I'd like your thoughts on bea and Elo, who you trust, who you don't.

You're missing juliets off your list, based on voting.

I gunned for Snow Dog and Made before you all jumped on the bandwagon.

DharmaHelper wrote:In all seriousness, the saga of LC has been nothing if not interesting, so I will be more than happy to hear him out.

$10 you get lynched tomorrow

Aren't you worried you've put a target on your back saying that?

Or Mongoose. Her voting is interesting.

I reckon the last Suit is either Blooper or Daisy. Less clear on the Sorcerers right now.

Sick of this doubt over S~V~S. Pick on someone else, she's practically confirmed.

Lot of question marks over a lot players. Most of you are getting re-reads

What is with all these baddies flipping the opposite to what we expect??

http://www.phespirit.info/cockney/slang_to_english.htm

I get you, timmer, but I'm British :P

Btw if he flips Sorceror, Mongoose is totally the other one.

Ain't got any time. Long hours in work and such.

I'm voting Made too, see previous posts for reasons.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Or maybe I'm just fucking with all of you.

That's up to you to decide.

Trolling.

I agree it's unlikely but I think we can agree stranger stuff happens in Mafia than a team intentionally not killing. I don't see your logic though, because one Suit may be inactive it's a good idea to essentially pick randomly to lynch one? That's D1 shit, not D8. If that's true, lynch Boddy and the Suit kill is gone until the inactive one is found.

linki - Just seeing if this was an emotional argument against lynching Daisy.

MP, would you rather we lynch you over Daisy?

Hmm... DH, why aren't you gunning for Boom anymore?

MP, that's fine, but I think it makes perfect sense that it was a missed PM or is playing games. Boddy isn't an active player. There was a foiled kill N6 and nobody died last night. He's not been lynched, he HAS to still be around. He's been plenty active up until last night and all the inactives have been as such so since like N1.

linki - eh, why am I responding to trolling.

What decisions are you referring to?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

zeek wrote:Daisy, voting and such makes her a Suit candidate. Frankly, I'm not willing to accept the word of an Indy that she's civ. (If anything I think that's harming her position.) She and MP have said we'll regret lynching her. Seems like an empty baddie threat to me, we'd regret lynching any civ. It strikes me as odd that she stopped being suspicious of DharmaHelper as soon as he became a viable lynch candidate..

How can it be a baddie threat if I'm a neutral?

Listen to me, civvies. Please.

Give me something more than your word then, Tyler.

Right now, I'm tentatively trusting bea. Never played with her however, so can anyone tell me what she's like when civ and bad? If

Juliets I don't have a read on and I think that's her standard play as far as I can tell. Good or bad. So I'll need to be convinced to vote that way.

Daisy, voting and such makes her a Suit candidate. Frankly, I'm not willing to accept the word of an Indy that she's civ. (If anything I think that's harming her position.) She and MP have said we'll regret lynching her. Seems like an empty baddie threat to me, we'd regret lynching any civ. It strikes me as odd that she stopped being suspicious of DharmaHelper as soon as he became a viable lynch candidate.

DharmaHelper I thought was Suit with Snow Dog. Evidently the last lynch pissed all over that theory and, while I'm still suspicious, also reconsidering. His voting record is still quite suspect and it struck me as odd he brought up Daisy's when his is no better. Pot, kettle, black.

Made has been so quiet on suspecting people. Seems to have little content to his actual posts and then he pipes up when Snowy's head is on the chopping block saying the case is weak. Like it was much stronger for DH? Also missed the Bass-Dom vote, possibly intentionally.

Low posters - I'm not buying that Boddy is a low poster. Either there was a block or something we're not aware of, someone forgot a PM or the Suits are toying with us.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Can people summarize why they are thinking Made is bad? I'm curious. I have some vague ideas, but I can't really picture a case in my head.

Can't speak for anyone else but...

Missing Dom vs Bass, not voting Snow Dog, defending Snow Dog, posting while at the same time saying absolute nothing, the fact he's still alive. I find all these things suspect.