The Syndicate

Well it's Night 23. The 5's aren't shooting primes. It's up to the 7's and 9's or alternatively the Odds. Are they with us? Who can tell.

The primes were left with 5-6 actives upon my being backstabbed, anyway. I inadvertedly killed three of them with the latent flu. Feels good now.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:52 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:50 pm Why not wait for Phase 2, tho?

Extermination is sweeter then.

Early acting can even the playing ground.

Pre-Phase 2 acting achieves nothing. By killing current Primes, there's a chance they'll scatter to other teams and not be Prime targets no longer (or discernible targets whatsoever). By leaving current Primes in their seats until Phase 2, they become clear targets. The way #80 is designed, Captain Con won't make it to Phase 2 in his Prime seat. Derp.

They have up to 3 or 4 more roles expected to be activated. Inevitably one of the next rezzes will be Primes. Let's just wait it out, write them on the list and exterminate them afterwards. Easy peasy.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:46 pm This goes for everyone. You have 3 courses of action in this game:

1- You help the primes from outside and aim for an ideological victory.
2- You actually are a prime or you become an actual prime, with a prime role card, and try to win with them.
2- You fight against the primes to win the game as another faction.

I am not interested in #1. My only goal is to have my name in that Hall of Fame when this is over and a fancy winners banner in my signature. If I don't get those it's fine, but I don't intend to go out without trying.

I'm interested in the 2 that's not actually a 2 nor the 2 preceding it, but in fact 3.

Why not wait for Phase 2, tho?

Extermination is sweeter then.

Yes, me.

The single-team affiliated vanilla af except for the mark of Cain thing role.

Very feasible.

Much threat.

To anyone debating loyalty vs. the benefits of having a role in their ranks, you'll only keep riding on the stupid lane of the discussion.

Yeah men, let the captain die with his wretched ship.
I <3 u 80
(It's even funnier considering the 5's are seemingly subservient to the primes)

I will personally not write a single further sentence in the game during post mortem / postgame, regardless what the outcome is.

Termination of the role is for you to decide, if you detected motive of breach of terms. I cannot sincerely say I wouldn't welcome it, but I shall make no such formal request.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:15 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:23 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:46 pm I don't see why the primes would have any interest in killing 13, no matter who they were. It was their ticket to an easy victory.

Naw straw hat, you don't get iiiiit.

After the button switch, primes lost sig, and then they lost Marmot, nutella and Kyle to the flu, all on consecutive Days, and Chief Khon is like spazzing out in the Chatzy, thinking the Primes are being cherrypicked or something.

Then "their ticket to an easy victory" gets killed by a couldn't-care-less rogue player in the game and Chief Khon is acting "echhhh you were never a vero Prime anyway" (cuz I didn't kiss his godfather ring the day I arrived or something) and "some birdy told me it was a strategic kill, with no ill effects in the balance".

Such loss. The humanity.

Oh, I didn't kill you.

I merely facilitated the kill to ensure that nothing unfortunate happened to your killer.

See, as a player and occasional game designer, I would hold nothing against a countermeasure to #13's intimidating aftereffects to exist in the design. I'd advocate it, in fact.

Thing is, I was once in a position to indirectly eliminate speedchuck's #13 - i.e. not via the lynch/nightkill measures clearly stated in that role - and the Host told me I would still get cursed, as the perpetrator. He even underlined the notion that what fun would there be in there being a way to bypass the curse and remove #13 without any consequences.

So, in light of such mentality from the Host, I sincerely hope that your own plan failed and the perpetrator is therefore cursed.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:05 pm Well, I tried, I guess you got me this time, sorry Dom, you were my best bet.

There is no clique. The primes were formed at random, by people joining the prime team and making an effort to join the prime plan. Some folks who got on the primes team did not want to be part of the plan, and that's their choice, not ours. Everyone who became part of the Prime we're welcome, as long as they showed an interest in being part of the plan.

The primes had nothing to do with Rico's death. The reason I said I heard a rumor that number 13 ability was notified, was because I fucking heard a rumor that that was the case. Nothing we did.

As far as I understood, Rico, you had put yourself in a certain attitude towards the prime that made you happy, and was fun for you to play. I merely played along with that attitude, and I hope that it's still all for fun for you.

Ah, turning diplomatic now, in light of ruckus.

You can keep your answers the way you initially intended them to come off. Just like with Jack, my last line of my last reply to you is the last thing I wish to say to you anymore.

And this stopped being fun since Day 5, in case it was still never clear.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:28 pmHow did one hear this rumor?

Imagine someone who was on the team performing the action died, and came back on my team. Something like that.

That can literally only imply one person.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:42 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:23 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:46 pm I don't see why the primes would have any interest in killing 13, no matter who they were. It was their ticket to an easy victory.

Naw straw hat, you don't get iiiiit.

After the button switch, primes lost sig, and then they lost Marmot, nutella and Kyle to the flu, all on consecutive Days, and Chief Khon is like spazzing out in the Chatzy, thinking the Primes are being cherrypicked or something.

Then "their ticket to an easy victory" gets killed by a couldn't-care-less rogue player in the game and Chief Khon is acting "echhhh you were never a vero Prime anyway" (cuz I didn't kiss his godfather ring the day I arrived or something) and "some birdy told me it was a strategic kill, with no ill effects in the balance".

Such loss. The humanity.

*nerd voice* ummmmactually I think you'll see that the term "straw hat" refers to the main character Monkey D Luffy and his pirate crew while Dragon D Luffy is his dad and totally unrelated to the straw hat crew *adjusts glasses*

There is no such thing as a "Dragon D. Luffy" dad character. Also, be quiet. *punches your face through the glasses*

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:46 pm I don't see why the primes would have any interest in killing 13, no matter who they were. It was their ticket to an easy victory.

Naw straw hat, you don't get iiiiit.

After the button switch, primes lost sig, and then they lost Marmot, nutella and Kyle to the flu, all on consecutive Days, and Chief Khon is like spazzing out in the Chatzy, thinking the Primes are being cherrypicked or something.

Then "their ticket to an easy victory" gets killed by a couldn't-care-less rogue player in the game and Chief Khon is acting "echhhh you were never a vero Prime anyway" (cuz I didn't kiss his godfather ring the day I arrived or something) and "some birdy told me it was a strategic kill, with no ill effects in the balance".

Such loss. The humanity.

I'm not. Hella comfy role.

I'm sorry I inherited your team.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:44 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:38 pm "Rico is doing exactly what he was expected to do."

"was"

I "was" a Prime.

Being a Prime means more than being in a Chatzy. You were never a Prime.

"I was never a Prime."

Did you ever even ask me to perform a task, that I didn't comply with, in order to warrant this label that I wasn't a ball player - anything apart from logging with a codename and hurting your precious Team Cap feelings by wishing to stick to it, oh Grand Daddy of Team Captaincy Kingfuckmountaineering?

Or is it simply my fault that I got thrown by The Button into a group of basically already established highbrow, game-scheming freemasons?

Bullshit of the highest order.

Lecturing me about team value, when your team-honoring reaction to losing role #13 is "you were never one of us", if not also "and maybe I was in on it tee hee"?

F.O.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:05 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:43 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:25 pm I'm pretty sure the Primes saw that coming a mile away Rico.

Half of them logged in with their forum nicks and half of the other half made it clear who they were and also made it clear, with specific member mentions, who they'd like to recover as a Prime or keep closeby - yourself included. If all that was decoy, hence "having seen it coming", then mega props to them.

Bet you haven't figured out who Eyeball Face is yet.

Bet you don't remember what my last reply to you was.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:44 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:38 pm "Rico is doing exactly what he was expected to do."

"was"

I "was" a Prime.

Being a Prime means more than being in a Chatzy. You were never a Prime.

Color me not giving a fuck what your idea of a team is. I was there, in my chair, reading a book. That's all you needed out of me.

Me one page ago:

This is completely devoid of logic, had I remained a Prime. I was, alongside another member now stuck in a technical loophole that allows him to be virtually immortal, their pawn in their team having been survived till endgame by at least two.

Being a Prime means having a role that's a Prime. You would have had me alongside you forever, had it not been for a je-m'en-fiche suicidal Epignosis.

"Rico is doing exactly what he was expected to do."

"was"

I "was" a Prime.

None. I don't even know why you're replying to me.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:52 pm My point was, they knew you couldn't be trusted, so your desire to out them all isn't surprising. I wasn't saying they planned for your betrayal, I was saying they knew it was probably coming.

This is completely devoid of logic, had I remained a Prime. I was, alongside another member now stuck in a technical loophole that allows him to be virtually immortal, their pawn in their team having been survived till endgame by at least two.

Now that that's no longer the case, I don't aim to surprise, I aim to put an offer on the table, come Phase 2, for anyone interested. From there on, I will care even less.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:25 pm I'm pretty sure the Primes saw that coming a mile away Rico.

Half of them logged in with their forum nicks and half of the other half made it clear who they were and also made it clear, with specific member mentions, who they'd like to recover as a Prime or keep closeby - yourself included. If all that was decoy, hence "having seen it coming", then mega props to them.

I will out all the primes that I recognized in BTSC, names of other players they've been desperate to get back in the Primes circle, names they've engaged in Chatty with, as well as my current teammates, as soon as Phase 2 will start. They have 6 more roles to swap to, in case they want to avoid that. In case you have alliances with the Primes, cool, do your thing, but if any other teams will desire them nuked, I shall provide that list.

Nineteen.

Nineteen cycles.

Nineteen Days and Nights.

That's 55 days.

Nineteen cycles you let speedchuck live, out of cowardice and self-preservation.

But now, you couldn't let me just sit in my chair, read my Owen Meany and not have a worry in this game no more?

Now you decided to bite the bullet. Much brave.

So yeah, I'm Team Fuck Off for whoever's asking.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:07 am Should have made up a name for Rico before the button.

What team is uh.....Eyeball Face on now?

Team Fuck Off

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:57 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:03 pm HI I'M POPPY

First kill decided.

kiss my ass

more like shoot yo ass

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:58 pm HEY! LOOK! STAGE 2 INFORMATION IS STARTING TO APPEAR.

HA-HA! HA! HA!

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:03 pm HI I'M POPPY

First kill decided.

LEAVE ELOHCIN ALONE

One is the loneliest number

AND YOU KILLED HIM

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:05 amwho should i kill

Trump.

I told you to leave him alone.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:07 pm
NIGHT 21 WILL END AROUND 9:30 PM EASTERN STANDARD TIME ON SUNDAY. THIS NIGHT PHASE WILL LAST APPROXIMATELY 48 HOURS BECAUSE THE ONE YOU CALL G-MAN WILL BE PREOCCUPIED BY HIS WIFE'S BIRTHDAY ON SATURDAY. TYPICAL HUMAN EXCUSE, ISN'T IT? ROLE PM'S AND TEAM KILL REQUESTS ARE DUE TO ME BY 8:30 PM SUNDAY.

well if someone would have made Day 21 24 hours...

*vote Kylemii*

LEAVE DRAGON D. LUFFY ALONE

nope

LEAVE INSERTNAMEHERE ALONE

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:58 pm

Malkovich.

So either Daisy is #3, in which case this whole plan of hers is the biggest fuck up possible for her and her team (I would know, y'know).

But since that would mean she's a Prime and hasn't said hello in my chat so far, it means she is anti-Prime and has engineered for speed to finally die so that #3, as a strong Prime, to get weakened.

If the latter is true, people should abort speed's lynch PRONTO!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:15 pm Spacedaisy, what are we trying to accomplish in this game?

I mean I know we're all on separate teams and trying to chew through the remaining roles through reincarnation in an attempt to create a personally advantangeous landscape, but like what is the generally accepted communal goal?

Spending New Year's Eve in LyLo and MyLo, listening to some Milo and watching some Lilo.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:49 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:43 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:31 am

I posted using gifs of dudes with bats before it was cool

What's a pay phase?

Where's mah money??

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:12 pm suuuuuuuure that's how a LMS game works

Oh man I can't wait for this game to go 6 months and end with no winners

No, 6 months and Glorfindel will win.

I am relieved we have another 27 hours for this, I simply cannot decide with my vote and I require extensive pondering, in light of a six-vote-plus wagon pile-up.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

GOD....DAMN IT!!!!

MALKOVICH.

MOTHEREFFING Malkovich got me unscathed through 20 Day phases thus far (that Day 2 lynch switch shenanigan notwithstanding) - and a few Night phases all the same, at least until Jack's jack of hearts proved useful too. YEAH? YEAH.

I MEAN HOLY SHIT RELEVANCY EVEN?

PLUS LET ME JUST SAY, I don't know what your strategy for winning is. SHOULD I EVEN CARE? HELLLL NAW.

I know what your strategy for the role you received was. MHHHM. Raised your hand, outed it, asked for a lynch, received it. That much was clear, SISTAH!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:43 pm Also this game could really use 24 hour days. I've suggested it to Gman once and he didn't agree, but I want to insist. Shorter phases don't make people more likely to miss votes imo, because it's not like this game takes a lot of reading even with 48 hour phases. It could increase interest in the game instead of lowering it.

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sig wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:18 pm And if I'm doing my math right we should be down to 17 roles by day 20. Assume we loose around 3 roles a phase cycle after that then we only have six more phases which is only 18 more days! However, I suspect we have more surprises incoming and that isn't counting the flue victims so I could see us reaching the next stage much faster.

"Roles awaiting activation" are written as 22. We started the game with 21 roles, meaning 79 other ones were awaiting this activation. Thus I surmise Phase 2 would begin *after* those 22.

As for this game, y'all keep removing powerful killer roles, then wonder why it takes us three months to even get to the "last" phase.

And y'all that do have those powerful killer roles, keep asking to have them removed the second you get them.

Because that's what this game called Mafia is about, right?

If this were a game with only one death and you'd receive a flamethrower to use, you'd surrender right away, right?

If this were a game with only one death and you'd roll a vanilla, you'd quit right away, right?

No? Oh is it because this is a game with up to nine lives left? Huh.

I've spent 14 cycles trying to reach my role goal and I would have even failed miserably halfway through and died, if it weren't for one of Jack's tarot cards to make me immortal.

Times I confessed who I was?

Times I requested to be lynched, because my role was too supakill?

Times I gave up?

Zero.

Times I flipped my shit, out of eagerness to accomplish my role, when I was caught off guard by those countdown exemption shenanigans?

One.

I know juliets has a soft heart and I'm 100% aware she has far bigger concerns right now than staying alive with a deadly active role in a game played on the internets, but I still resent how she put down her weapons seconds after the swap - not to mention 14 cycles after I stayed alive to accomplish something with that same deadly role.

I get the Button Pusher threw a wrench in that, but that's actual game countering and shenanigans and all. Instead, this "lynch me lynch me" and "remove me my role is too deadly" and "let's speed up things, but no wait, let's actually kill the roles that can speed up things" bullsuittery is not, is beyond un-mafia-like and it's the only thing we managed to think of during, to quote a stranger

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:12 pm 19 Days/Nights jesus

Rant over.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:39 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:30 am New Year's Eve it is, then.

You can always sign up for other games in the meantime. I've stopped taking this game into consideration when planning what games I sign up for a long time ago.

Sign up for what?

I've played everything else during this game, except for Street Firefighter and searching for Quin's Buttito.

Mortal Kombo has 7/32 signed, Pirate has 4/15 and I'm not playing MM's game. Unless I'm allowed to also bring Belshazzar, Teru Mikami, Golden 2, Ron Swanson and Vompatti along, these games won't budge until likely NYE just as well.

New Year's Eve it is, then.

Last call to move your votes off me, gentlemen. I don't need flu, you don't need to risk losing any chance at winning.

I mean, I get Made not paying attention to anything he's doing, but speed, you also happen to be my teammate, ffs.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:04 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:03 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:47 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:37 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:12 pm Je suis le troisieme.

*sits back and enjoys immortality*

13?

*votes Rico*

If you're infected, vote me and I die of the flu along the way, you will count as cursed.

Mkay. So that's a yes?

I'm tryina lynch you buddy. Not worried about the flu.

I brought this monster into the world, and I'm going to help take it out. WHO IS WITH ME?

I'm not sure you understand.

This role is the same as it was. Any form of removing it - and since I've long been aware of how overprotected it was designed, I must stress any form - will bring the risk of becoming winless unless rerolling into a 7.

If you leave your vote on me and I don't get lynched, you will still infect me. If I then die from that, you will be at risk at becoming winless unless rerolling into a 7.

But if you understood that, just don't care about losing the game, then sure, carry on.

I've asked this question before in chat. Indirect kills like that won't trigger the curse.

Ask yer host.