The Syndicate

Bafflement continues.



That L portrayal couldn't sound or look more off.

Welcome to Hollywood.

Or do I?

Ricochet wrote: In what can only be described as a very ironic post-scriptum, considering all I've posted this morning, I would actually attempt to limit my time here to the absolute minimum until I pass my IELTS test on Saturday morning. That's N8 and the first day of D9. Thanks for understanding.

Results came in. 8.0 overall. Though only a 7 in Writing and 7.5 in Speaking. Listening and Reading are borderline banal tests, so there's not much satisfaction in the fact that getting higher grades there compensated.

Also, congrats to TH for joining the Mods of the Round Table! Finally someone I can bribe for future wins or preferential modkills.

Awesome! As expected of Kami.

Cool enough. At least none of that pen-up-my-chest crap from the anime.

If I would have gone ahead with the summon that day, I probably would have shouted something like "Kami! I hope you know what you're [optional use of F-word] doing!" beforehand - given how much I've mulled over (in conversation with MP) if my idea of the best plan is also theirs (and it was) - in sync with MP posting my suicide post immediately after (or, well, give or take a few WTFs and "Uh oh"s).

Oh, one more: what would my suicide post have looked like?

Strangely though, you never gave Sidoh the ability to make the Eye Deal. That would have made an even more badass Mello.

Then we would have won and it would have been all FZ's fault. :P The detectives were already down to five, I think, so they would have needed a Kira less before Near catching Kira.

Anyway, I always believed, considering his abilities, that Mello would have a better shot at ending the game than Near - which is an ironic twist on the canon.

I just realized something that may have not been explained: how would have Light escaped / won (?) if Near would have caught him (or a different active Kira)?

needed*

I would have need a bigger spreadsheet if this game would have had 50 players...

We'll see. I like One Piece and Bleach more.

Little does TH know that me taking a break is actually a RL excuse which to help me win in a certain meta game.

Death Note - Gameplay
Death Note - Votes
Death Note - Roles
Death Note - Theory

Never received a public vote throughout the game

• long-term: Boomslang, Juliets, myself

• short-term: Long Con, SVS, Zomberella

Juliets, did you ever "mobilize" the Task Force members?

Did Llama fail BTSC with someone when he offered a second read on Russ?

Also, bannerzz pls

Don't know why I said I have no remorse Bass killed me, I meant no grudge.

Reading your post-game thoughts, FZ., I tend to agree now that an unlynchable detective would have probably had more problems after surviving a lynch, due to Team Light gradually forming and becoming aware of each other, leaving room to "hide" only for a third Shinigami (who, it turns out, had to do with best to out himself) and Higuchi (which people wouldn't have believed much, because of their fixation on Epignosis), but I still believe an effort to conceal this till the bitter end would have been better than thinking "outing" is "preventing" anything. It seems that Team Light deduced your and DH's roles from failed kills, anyway - which leads back to a problem, perhaps, with the mechanics.

Sorry again for gunning you. I was aware already who Kami (Light) was, so I figured you must be Mello or Near, but I had to pretend you are still an option for Light. I'm glad if you ultimately enjoyed this, because I remember well your disappointment in being killed early in previous games (one time by myself and my team, in Film ). Even if so debateable, I still think your performance was really great.

So this should have been my first post-game post, but I was too anxious not to miss the party. Good thing I woke up after two hours of sleep in the train and had mobile signal to check the thread.

Thank you, MP, for an incredible game etc. etc. I loved how detailed and close to canon it was and how crazy and exciting it unfolded. The level of discussion and gaming here was really insane, I initially felt it was a completely different league of Mafia gaming. I think I hinted in a Day 0 / Day 1 post that this would perhaps be too much for me, but I'm glad I stayed in it. Up until D9, I kept track of everything everybody said, no kidding, just look at this crazy psycho stuff.

I also started out this game thinking I have no chance in hell to fulfill my win condition. Which is why, again, I am stunned I didn't have to do basically anything to complete it - I was going to say, except to survive, but that didn't really feel like a real risk either. MP actually PM'd me on Day 1, thinking I was a goner after my L/Watari BTSC speculations made Epig and a few others wary. But then he himself was impressed with how much I slipped out of everyone's radar, afterwards. Only TH gunned for me real hard (I said it was for the wrong reason, didn't I, buddy? ), but it didn't catch either. I got real lucky seeing that most players (even FZ.!, wow) found me on the level, "logical". I still tangled myself way too much in the deductions game for my own good, but yet again, only TH was shouting "DELIBERATE".

Spacedaisy was simply amazing. I have the feeling some wedding vows are about to be modified to include "...and the best Kira a Sockface could ever ask for". And she made my win so, so, so much easier. Imagine having to clean up if a big player like boo, Epig or Llama would have been Light. After Day 7 or so, she stilled received no votes whatsoever, so my shortlist was Bass, Boomslang, DP, Juliets, Matahari, Spacedaisy and zeek, but out of these I already had the feeling Spacedaisy would fit the profile perfectly. I got confirmation a day later. I could have still lost on the last hurdle, if zeek would have been a Yotsuba, since then Kami wouldn't have needed to "clean" that vote.

Of course, my only real regret in the game is never getting to use the DN. I side-commented a lot in private with MP, begging him to give me the DN, playing in character in my adoration of Kami, hoping Kami won't accidentally kill me etc. My Mikami tactic was to pretty much be in the middle of any possible chart. Lying in wait, since I'm so goddamn vanilla, but never low posting. Neither looking like a civ Kami would kill, nor like a weasel the detectives might worry about (too much). I have no remorse that the Higuchi-player killed me, because this was actually what I feared most, that Higuchi (or the Yotsubas if they would have gotten to vote) would never care who they kill or that Higuchi would have a much more self-interested win condition (yep, even to the point of betraying Kami!). Bass turning out to be Higuchi certainly does make all the debate on his gameplay and RL impact interesting. I probably still wouldn't ever go the lengths Epig did, but I tend to agree now that no extent of a RL excuse should be given the free pass.

As I said earlier, I do think the game was slightly unbalanced, mostly because of the failed lynches (which could have amounted to a total of 8, whilst Kira could have missfired a lot less, especially with the Eye Deal) and Near/Mello being vanilla for so long (and risk being checked and removed right after L's death, which in fact happened), but I'm willing not to get into that much detail, especially if the Host is satisfied. Nevertheless, I am amazed how this could have still swung the detectives' way, with TH's crazy extra amount of votes and all.

Browsing over the other win conditions, I'm a bit surprised how heavily the love triangle issue was implemented for Misa and Takada. I expected Misa to have to survive the game as her win condition, not just Rem's - but that would have really not been feasible, considering Light's win condition and unreasonable for the Misa-player. Ryuk had it pretty easy, no wonder MM played so cocky. He would have probably lost only if Matsuda, Near or Mello stayed alive long enough to end the game quicker.

I think that's about it. I'll complete my spreadsheets and post them later.

This also concludes my Mafia experience for now, otherwise I risk losing in RL a lot more. I'm very glad I won the two games I liked the most. I think Death Note proved to me that I'm still very much attracted to the theme, but also warming up to the risky and challenging types. I had a great time playing with everybody. See you again soon, though probably not until late July/August, except if a really exciting new game surfaces.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Oh right, also: nine Mogi checks? Nine?? And did he assign anybody else post-mortem?

Oh, yes, Mogi checks! Let me reveal those. I knew there were still things we hadn't discussed/revealed.

1) thellama73 - correct - L
2) Turnip Head - correct - Sidoh
3) S~V~S - redirected - Hirokazu Ukita
4) Epignosis - correct - Suguru Shimura
5) zeek - redirected - Reiji Namikawa
6) Ricochet - redirected - Soichiro Yagami
7) Metalmarsh89 - correct - Ryuk
8) Made - correct - Masahiko Kida
9) Matahari - correct - Misa Amane (Second Kira)

Note he never checked FZ.

Also, he chose juliets as his successor, but she never went 48 hours without posting, and therefore did not receive a role check.

Well look at that dodge of a bullet.

What I still don't get is that his secrets were revealed Day 5, I think and he got killed Day 6. How did he get so many extra checks in this short interval?

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Oh right, also: nine Mogi checks? Nine?? And did he assign anybody else post-mortem?

The reason we wanted to keep Mogi's role a secret was to avoid outting the successor. We looked over who it might be privately, I think we thought it was SD at one point.

I kept track of players activity and nobody stuck out as having went silent 48 hours.

Oh right, also: nine Mogi checks? Nine?? And did he assign anybody else post-mortem?

I figured your tilded secrets, DH, include the same basic operating rule for a DN, but I couldn't crack the first sentence (which was similar to Near's) without any letters. But I doubt MP would have allowed your role to be revealed, even if I would have got it right.

DharmaHelper wrote:I had hoped that my "deductions" would make it look like I was L.

Linki: I never got to use my death note so I was not told any of that :P

To be honest, it never made you look like anything to me, except the player who's kicking my ass at deductions. You and TH.

I mean, no wonder you two were fit for BTSC!

:P

DharmaHelper wrote:Thank you for elucidating that MP

Wait you weren't made aware at all?

So I think I also want to inquire, MP and/or Team Light, what were the mechanics of using the DN and timing a kill with it (I ask this since I was the only DN eligible never to even be made familiair with this) and, to the best of knowledge, what kills were executed, which failed early on and who dunnit it, up until Bass started killing of course.

Turnip Head wrote:Yeah man if I had voted for Daisy the detectives could have won. I wanted to save some votes for the following day because I thought even if I sniped Light we would still need to take out Mikami next, but you were already dead, so yeah. I could have won the game for the detectives if I had figured things out. *slinks away into the shadows*

Yes

yesyesyesyes

YES/YES

Turnip Head wrote:I had 12 extra votes because DH and I are decoding gods. 8+ hours well spent.

No.

nonononononononono

NO

NO/NO

Extra votes? Plural? How did one player get more than one?

I'm home, praise the Kami.

That sounds more complicated that I could have imagined, Kami. Glad it worked out.

boo, that sounds like the Leroy Jenkins version of a best case scenario

Let's play it again that way!

Sorry about making you look like a fool, MM. I had an intense round of PM with MP on that, because he wanted my reaction on it. At first I was derp, then realized the "gravity" of the summon. But eventually I reached a best case scenario when you (Team Light) had checked L, Mello and Near and wanted two consecutive nights to take care of Watari and L, plus have Rem sacrifice to kill Mello & Near. I don't know why I didn't comply at this point, a bit of frustration at never getting to use my abilities, I suppose, and hearing that Kami values me only for the suicide part. :P But then I figured I'm not really important in this equation, Rem is. MP confirmed Watari's consecutive Days would not be invalidated or cancelled, so you still needed Rem's kills not to get in trouble. Either my nights would have been first and you'd have manage just to kill L after which N/M would have roamed free throughout normal D/N cycles, either Watari's Days were first and then throughout my nights N/M would have have also searched for you. Bad news either way.

Then the plan did in fact get in motion with Watari dying and I concluded the ship had sailed for my contribution in any way.

Ok, bye for now.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Matsuda dying D1 was something, tho, why on earth did Trice play like that.

Why not? It's totally something I would do.

Idk. Totally in character (loyal to detective cause on that vote option banter), yet flawedly aggressive considering his important role.

Also interesting that every Kira made the Eye Deal, Kami included. I would have, too.

Matsuda dying D1 was something, tho, why on earth did Trice play like that.

My only "fear" (fake, since I was bad) was FZ defending herself so much because she was L, but I couldn't suggest that in the thread obviously. I thought she was Mello then, becaise of her defending of TH (and him also flipping sofr on her).

I'm still sorry for gunning FZ, but I also think it was bad of her to out herself to the Team Light given that she was such a significant endgamer for the detectives.

zeek wrote:There's jubilation, and then there's bragging Rico :P

I know, but I said in film that I feel close to my BTSC mates even if later on we'llface each other (and boy was that true with me and TH)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I was down right angry. I behaved very badly at that point behind the scenes, especially to Alex. I'm surprised he didn't call off our engagement.

Lol but why. Were you aware of my win condition or something or just felt it could tip the game into us losing? I sweated dead more than alive because of zeek's vote and the possibility of another group turning tjis win around.

sorry I didb't suicide at your comnand Kami

Bass killing you almost lost us the game on the last day (not your fault though).

- If zeek, DP, or Mata was lynched, then the game would end and Sympathizers win.

- If Daisy were to be lynched, we would have lost on the spot, and the Detectives would have won.

- If Bass were to be lynched, Daisy would get two NK's, but the game would have continued the next day with 4 players left: Myself, TH, Daisy, and (Mata or a detective). Because Daisy needed Mata dead to win, the game would not have ended. That would be a disaster.

- Similar situation if TH or myself were lynched, but who's going to lynch a Shinigami?


I don't think the detectives realize just how close they were to winning. TH could even have set up a foolproof plan with his secret votes to guarentee it. He could have placed a few on each of Daisy, zeek and DP (the three he thought could be Kira), and let the player with the double-votes get lynched. Fortunately for us, that didn't happen. That's also why Mata and I tried to get her lynched, because we knew votes on her were doubled because of the eye deal.

yeah I need a serious walkthrough about that lynch result too, especially from TH

Top Players: 2015

















Rank
Player
# of Wins
1
Bass_the_Clever
2
1
Metalmarsh89
2
1
Ricochet
2
1
Turnip Head
2

crappy paste of top player 2015 but

Spacedaisy wrote:He had two death notes so he could check two for each death note/each kill.

lolwtf!!!

Ok I seriously need to hear from MP how the whole ownership and transfer went.

i also need to seriously sleep

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I am really sorry I killed you rico.

Eh. I would have expected this from a worthy Higuchi, but I actually had no idea you had received the DN. I treated all double kills as Kami's.

still don't the part about you checking four people instead of two

Spacedaisy wrote:I was down right angry. I behaved very badly at that point behind the scenes, especially to Alex. I'm surprised he didn't call off our engagement.

Lol but why. Were you aware of my win condition or something or just felt it could tip the game into us losing? I sweated dead more than alive because of zeek's vote and the possibility of another group turning tjis win around.

sorry I didb't suicide at your comnand Kami

Ricochet wrote:OMG Kami was saddendd by my death.

This is the thing I get now out of this game.

best* thing

OMG Kami was saddendd by my death.

This is the thing I get now out of this game.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:MP, how about that Woman's Day card I made for my errr I mean your beloved Kami, tho? :P Made even before knowing!

Ah, yes! That was fantastic.

That reminds me too, Spacedaisy used that secret vote on herself in order to reveal her identity to you.

Olol, so that's why you let it slide in my win condition.

Did she ever receive the card?

MP, how about that Woman's Day card I made for my errr I mean your beloved Kami, tho? :P Made even before knowing!

So lol, the one always suspecting (?) I'm bad never brought me to his interrogation chambers. That, after in Film, he started my entire Mafia career with an interrogation. No wonder I'm winning.