The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:Night 1, we talked a little about killing based on avatars, but decided that killing whomever we deemed likely to win the question was the better strategy. Ultimately, it pretty much came down to taking out whomever was being the loudest at Night.

I never get that many votes. I'm not that popular.

Nah, your compliments and your distancing from my entire case wouldn't have made me feel any better about you.

thellama73 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Ricochet wrote:If I wouldn't have been a victim of it, all the WIFOM killing spree would have, in principle, made me doubt a bit that Llama is doing it on purpose and that someone else (like Epi ) is messing with it, if only he wouldn't continued to do scummy things, like bantering about how the kills are oh so lame. I've never seen him ever make such comments in previous games (where he was civ or indie all the time) and it kept my belief, even from the sidelines, that he has to be bad all the way until he flipped.

Anyway, all of this is perfect WIFOM material for a future game... whichever future game, which is simply ironic.

Thank God llama and I are hosting the next two.

Speaking of which, will people please sign up for Frisky Dingo? It's taking forever.

Since you didn't actually kill me here, I will probably eventually sign up.

OMG, I would have also been eligible for Roxy's question, had I still been alive!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Actually the best player in the game was Sockman, who named the entire scum team on d1 to his fiancé without even reading the thread.

Too bad he wasn't actually in the game.

Figuring out all the socks in Biblical by Day 2.
Blindly naming the entire mafia team on Day 1.

What sorcery is this?

If I wouldn't have been a victim of it, all the WIFOM killing spree would have, in principle, made me doubt a bit that Llama is doing it on purpose and that someone else (like Epi ) is messing with it, if only he wouldn't continued to do scummy things, like bantering about how the kills are oh so lame. I've never seen him ever make such comments in previous games (where he was civ or indie all the time) and it kept my belief, even from the sidelines, that he has to be bad all the way until he flipped.

Anyway, all of this is perfect WIFOM material for a future game... whichever future game, which is simply ironic.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:@Rico: you were pretty active on night 1, building big posts against llama and all, so we assumed you were a likely receiver of the question. We decided pretty much every kill in the game based on that.

yeah, never again

well, inadvertedly, all your kills were huge WIFOMs one after the another

I didn't catch any hints at the questioning, until Eloh said one would be allowed mention if he was chosen to question or such and MM & Epi started doing that, but I had a feeling the questioning ability didn't work too well.

linki: Well, as long as I gave you a shiver with my Spacedaisy read, I'm ok with that. I sucked at the rest, just as usual.

Night 4
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh - Epi
Niju - Epi
Roxy - Epi
Llama - Roxy
Timmer -

Epi was a member of mafia. No question was asked.

woow

Night 5
Anonymous Votes:
Black Rock -
Hedge -
MetalMarsh -
Niju - Epi
Timmer -

WOOOOW the fail is strong in here


linki: Bastardo! Well, congrats.

Golden wrote:

Ricochet wrote:4/6 = 66.66%

God damnit, Golden is the devil incarnate.

I admit that right now I have the best winning percentage on RM except for those people who have won 1/1 games.

This will never last, though, Rico. Ultimately, I think you are the more driven player so I'll enjoy it while I can, and hand the throne over to you when it is time.

What's RM? You're still second best behind Nevinera here, if I recall correctly.

And hand me what throne? I'm at 50 now. FIF-TY. And plummeting.

linki: well, at least my one time nominee was civ. I actually trusted voting timmer back then, despite his switcheroo vote on Spacedaisy catching my eye a bit. I didn't trust almost anyone else enough to earn my vote.

linki#2: yeah, why did you kill me? :sniff: massive WIFOM aside, that is.

4/6 = 66.66%

God damnit, Golden is the devil incarnate.

I had a feeling Epi was up to no good. In fact, I was thinking of running a gambit that Eloh must have definitely cast her spouse as bad, just like he cast her as mafia in Biblical, but then I forgot to run it.

My spacedaisy read was still the best read I ever had in mafia so far and nothing can take that away.

G-Man wrote:Dear Living Players,

With the growing number of residents around these parts, Ricochet and I have put our comedy skits on ice for a while. Last night we decided to do something a little different. We started a Dr. Who marathon. This was probably foolish because, with hundreds of episodes in existence, there is no way we'll ever finish watching them all before the rest of you are finished.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Hey, where you flying?

I've never been on a plane in my life.

Florida --> Chicago --> San Fran --> Eugene. Though now I've got some down time because the flight is delayed.

I don't recommend flying. It's expensive and usually not fun. Oh and it's near impossible to find a good meal.

Pretty much, although I only received "meals" (sandwiches, croissants or, worse, a bloody waffle!) and drinks when flying with Lufthansa; god forbid I get more than a smile with the low cost company. Not that I need meals much for one-two flight hours - you probably fly longer, though. As for fun, I usually entertain myself. Music, movie, tv episodes - I have more stuff stored on my tablet than money in my pocket.

As for recommending it, idk. I was shit scared of ever flying, then when I had no choice and got in my first plane (17 yrs, to Paris) I was all "weeeeeee" as soon as we took off. It only got bad one time was when my hearing shut down during a flight (err let's say i don't remember how old ) - of course I acted like a complete n00b and felt that I'm farked and my life is over.

G-Man wrote:Ricochet has been pacing around the room a lot. He's really itching to play again.

Dunno, man, I'd rather define myself as lethargic these days.

Remember me saying I want to play Mafia all summer?

Yeah, so WHAT NOW

Thanks, la Mafia

Mmhm.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Cig?

I think he meant cvg, the airport he'll be flying into in a few weeks.

Flying into?

Have you written it so in your Death Note?

thellama73 wrote:Great points by Ricochet. I like the way he is playing. The reason I ultimate didn't vote for MP (who I still think is a girl) is that his posts read extremely cig to me once he actually showed up. Too bad about TH though.

I'm sorry, but no. You made it very clear that his lack of avatar is the main issue, including to him. Nowhere in your posts, since he showed up, do I find you stating that you feel better about him, in order to switch to TH.

It only adds, to me, that you intend to blur the lines between MP and TH as inactive players, between which it was easy or justifiable for you to switch. Nevertheless, you still called MP the "best option" for his avatar issue and that alone, then never stood by it.

thellama73 wrote:She's not going to get modkilled, because Eloh doesn't do those things. She might get replaced, but that doesn't make her more likely to be good. It's only a waste of a lynch if she is not mafia. Right now, we can't find out whether she is mafia or not, because she has robbed us of our only way of doing so by not having an avatar. Seems like the best option to me.

Bonding with the Mod of Duty, ey?

Pretty much.

MP is bad scenario: distancing is the only way, because teamies acting casual about MP's missing avatar is the worse path to take. And it gives plenty of space for Llama to tailor his hunt on MP in a professional way. Town cred gain if MP is lynched. His reason for suddenly pushing TH instead could be a way of not going all the way through with sacrificing MP.

MP is civ scenario: easy smoke screens to construct, again because MP's missing avatar and his/TH's inactivity being exploitable issues. Civs lost Omerta because they lynched one oddball player after another, so again, very exploitable. If both TH and MP get lynched, boom, 2 civs down + 2 more civs night killed, 8 to 4 by Day 3.

Also, I feel the need for this to exist, so I made it myself.

Black Rock
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
fingersplints
G-Man
Golden
Hedgeowl
MetalMarsh89
Missing Person
nijuukyugou (I'm getting good at writing this nickname by heart!)
Ricochet
Roxy
Spacedaisy
thellama73
timmer
Turnip Head

Oh joy.

Ricochet wrote:Then again, he developed an apathy in Omerta as well, players flocked to lynch him (uhm eventually), flipped civ.

Ricochet wrote:Biblical, after going AWOL? Civ.

RIP TH. I know inactives aren't helping the civ cause, but I think it'd still be nice to primarly hunt with the mentality of catching mafia, not of mercy killing or cleaning up civ who aren't playing.

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Of TH's four voters, Spacedaisy sealed the deal, pushing TH at 4, with DDL at 3 and MP at 2. Now, she did make an eloquent recap of the Day and reasoning of her vote choice, despite not being very active throughout the Day, but that's actually what gives me pause a bit. Remember who she was the last time she made eloquent, if sporadic posts, that got her little to no suspicion/heat and made her sail to victory? Kami!

In complete contrast, Black Rock's four posts throughout Day 1 are half fluff, half wagony (agreeing with Llama and Splints that TH's situation isn't an issue for a lynch), so her posts look worse, but it makes me recall she's done this in the past and got mislynched for it...Mary! She could be intentionally playing the same card again, of course, but idk what to think.

G-Man's Day 1 posts should mostly be in orange and green (not literally, but you get my point) and he himself defended his way of being more jokey at the beginning of the game. His suss on TH missing actually dates before Llama actively got the votes rolling. And in light of what I'm about to point about Llama, it is interesting to note that G-Man went along with everything that Llama proposed. Kinda fishy.

And now let us turn to the Switcheroo Detection Game. I know Llama will appreciate this, even though it's about him, because he does it regularly on others.

Llama's first suspect choice

thellama73 wrote:Also, I'm announcing now that I will vote for Missing Person if there is no avatar by the time I leave for the airport tomorrow.

Conviction of his hunt idea? Solid.

thellama73 wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Also, I'm announcing now that I will vote for Missing Person if there is no avatar by the time I leave for the airport tomorrow.

Is that even a good idea? If Missing Person doesn't put an avatar she's just going to get modkilled, right?

It's an extremely good idea.

Further defending of solid conviction? Check. And double check.

Backlash at players disapproving of his hunt idea? Check.

Breaking apart players' disapproving arguments (the newbie stances)? Check. And double check.

Heightened suspicion when the suspected player starts showing signs of rectifying or fine tuning his behaviour (like suddenly showing up)? Check.

Pretty consistent hunting from him, right? Given that his main reason for wanting to lynch MP was the avatar issue, you'd think a player like Llama would stick with this hunt and vote accordingly, especially since MP still failed to provide the avatar, right? [following quotes snipped a bit to point out only the relevant part]

thellama73 wrote:

Missing Person wrote:
Anyway, when I had said I would be legit AFK due to flying into Seoul, and there's threats to lynch me for being AFK, that's not a good look.

llama or fingersplints: There's a mafia between the two of them. Bet that.

Actually, I threatened to lynch you for not having an avatar, which you still don't have. Not for being AFK.

thellama73 wrote:

G-Man wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Guys, an awful lot of people haven't even checked in yet. Settle down.

Um, no. The only player who hasn't posted yet since this thread went live is TurnipHead.

My bad. I forgot the Hedgeowl and Spacedaisy were here since they vanished after the first page.

Missing Person still has no avatar.

Yet a mere 17 minutes later

thellama73 wrote:I'm probably going to vote for Turnip Head just to piss everyone off.

And he stands by his second suspect choice until he has to leave and vote.

One could say that for him MP and TH were in the same boat for being inactive, but his reads on them are actually not of the same caliber.

His reasons for voting MP? Solid: Lack of avatar, affecting the mechanics of the civilian night game.
His reasons for voting TH? Mellow (Mercy kill, "It would be the kind thing to do.") and/or jokey ("to piss everyone off (...) when I vote for non-participants or people who <<have not had the chance to defend themselves.>>").

Llama is bad and will probably get my vote.
My trust-o-meter on the other three is pretty low, as well, right now.

Golden wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Ok, it's getting real latte.

And you say you weren't having any coffee...

Well I certainly need it this late at night.

Wait, I'm the only one so far? I'm pretty sure I've read at least a few "voting MP is he doesn't add avatar by end of Day" stances.

Ok, it's getting real latte.

Host: links to each player's posts on the first page, pretty please?

Topics:

MP - Torn. He seems our oddballer candidate right now and we all know how well D1 oddball lynches go. We did start the game unwilling to wait for him any longer, didn't we? Then again, I agree there's more depth to this issue, mainly because the avatar is a central aspect of this game. Slightly less so, if we will be allowed to ask questions about "non-existent" features. Since he actually signaled his presence, yet hasn't fixed the avatar issue, it's either: a) kinda bad form if he's civ, because the incentive to ask questions about him is quite high now and we'd be basically burning a question; or b) he's in the Mafia and I can see the team as a whole liking the idea to toy around with this issue; plus I also agree with Golden's idea that MP, if Mafia, could potentially also tailor his avatar a bit (or under team guidance), at this point.

Rox/Splints - Not sensing coattaling, at this point. I agree either of them could have taken their stance first and stick with it. From their individual posts, I only find Roxy's newbie stance on MP kinda clunky. He's neither new, nor returning - he played Omerta and so did Roxy; the fact that she got night killed early shouldn't be a factor. Him returning after Omerta - which was like a month ago - isn't exactly a return, either.

TH - Inactive player of the thread right now, although I'd slightly consider Hedge too, despite her one post (which wasn't of any real contribution whatsoever, but was made very early on). I can see him staying that way, because he's apparently on a kind of "athelete hangover" since playing Champions or something. Then again, he developed an apathy in Omerta as well, players flocked to lynch him (uhm eventually), flipped civ. Biblical, after going AWOL? Civ. I know it's a tight game to allow inactives and non-contributors to stay on board (and that the Mafia will more than generously agree never to dispose of them), but I sorta smell a mislynch nonetheless. One day pass sounds ok with me.

DDL's takes? A bit edgy, but not enough for a suspicion, imo, and can dig his explanation that it's his way of pushing things.

The thread started spreading since and I'm sorry, but it's 3am and less than half an hour to go. Going with MP for the avatar issue. G'night.

Haha total gender mayhem domino

Despite being a tennis bro, pinged a bit by Timmer taking the non-contributor vote route. He concludes MP is not on his bad vibes list, although earlier he said he doesn't really dig MP's explanation for suspecting Splints but not Roxy. Not finding a link in his other posts between his early take and his clearence of him right now - except maybe this post?

Catching up, because the bit I kept up with was before the thread exploded from 1 to 4 pages.

Off-topics first.

Eloh chatting with us is fine. Also, she seems a more friendly host than Episcopalian, although also keener to modkill. Mixed feelings about that.

Both DDL and Llama repeatedly call MP a "she". Oh, and then Timmer too. Are they trying to impersonate me? Splints got it right, apparently a woman can tell.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Did the mafia buy coffee for a girl one night?

No. And she had a milkshake, so I went with a limonade myself, because coffee isn't my thing.

Timmer wrote:LOL, I'm glad you guys see my point. I'm watching Wimbledon right now, and am reminded of years ago watching a young Federer vs an old Agassi in the U.S. Open. Federer was throwing himself at every point, running, leaping, and ultimately winning. Agassi knew his back had a limit and reached for the points he knew he had a good chance to get, but if a shot was a certain distance away, he just calmly let it go and walked to his mark for the next serve. It was a cool life lesson in maturity and acceptance. Now, when I watch an older Federer, he's getting the same way, though he's not at Agassi's point yet.

I see mafia vets in the same light.

Nice post, tennis bro. I never caught Agassi playing.

G-Man wrote:

Ricochet wrote:I have plenty worse things to hide from people in my society than the fact that I play Mafia.

Dare I ask? You've piqued my curiosity.

I like raisins, for once.

I have plenty worse things to hide from people in my society than the fact that I play Mafia.

Except if maybe the evening goes really well.

I like that Hedgeowl is misspelled, but nijuukyugou isn't.

Not sure I get the "Civillians will be receiving specific information about players concerning their avatar." part from the rules. As in when a nominated player will ask a question during Nights or will there be more than that?

I have a date tonight, which is my idea of independence these days, but I should be able to make it back in time not to miss voting.