The Syndicate

Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.

Also I do like it when someone asks me to explain a town read on them lol. I'm not sure an under pressure mafia asks me to explain why I town read them.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?

Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.

Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?

I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.

Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.

Explain.

Your explanation for why SVS fits as mafia is something I feel like you only say if you believe it... it's a tightrope to accuse someone of trying to elim you, when they literally voted for someone who was voting for you BECAUSE of their vote for you. It took me several passes to actually understand your point, because it was convoluted. But when I understood it, I saw the core 'gut' feels of 'I think SVS doesn't care whether I'm elimmed' and I got it. And I liked your follow up answer too.

I don’t think a vote for Lucy is the way to go today.

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:36 pm sorry for leaving for the night

Burnout is a real thing. Part of why I’m changing my meta.

I think perhaps the most interesting thing is that when he got to my vote and saw it was essentially a joke vote he joined in on the joke and self-voted, but it hasn't changed his relative stiffness around me. I perceive a missing lightness.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:16 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:13 pm I'm quite happy with my vote for marmot right now. The way he reacted to it is not in keeping with what I'd expect from town marmot.

How would you expect Town Marmot to react? How does that contrast with the way he has reacted?

Not particularly react to me having voted for him... especially before finding the vote itself/reading the thread.
Certainly not with a post that says 'golden has posted 75 times and his vote is on someone who hasn't posted yet'.

He was inordinately concerned about making me look bad for what was (know to him or not) a joke vote that he would ordinarily make himself.

I'm quite happy with my vote for marmot right now. The way he reacted to it is not in keeping with what I'd expect from town marmot.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:00 am Golden seems inordinately concerned w/ my sus on their slot...noted

Yup that's definitely it.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?

Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.

Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?

I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.

Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:26 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:24 am Also, on topic- why would I be compared to a sheep? If anything, I’ve had multiple people sheep me.

Because sheep sheep sheep

This is objectively one of my best ever mafia posts.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:28 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:26 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:24 am Also, on topic- why would I be compared to a sheep? If anything, I’ve had multiple people sheep me.

Because sheep sheep sheep

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:26 am That’s plural noun verb plural noun btw

Wat is this- we doin mad-libs now or something?

Honestly a mad libs curse is a great curse idea.

That’s plural noun verb plural noun btw

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:24 am Also, on topic- why would I be compared to a sheep? If anything, I’ve had multiple people sheep me.

Because sheep sheep sheep

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:16 am Also guys, I just got out of the shower afew min ago, my cat is guarding the stack of nicely cleaned undergarments.

If I try to get close the claws come out.

What do?

Is this a metaphor?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:15 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:24 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:39 pm Someone motivate me to super Woog. Because this is my current status:

How about you be golden and I’ll be DrWilgy

Talking point talking point.

You see.... Talking point point point!

(How's that?)

Good. On topic and unlikely to be read in detail by anyone.

I keep comparing scotty to a sheep. Am I on the right track?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:18 am

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:17 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:14 am Falcon isn't scummy but he hasn't been towny yet. I'm waiting for his thots

So you would say it’s normal for him to generate only a single read on someone he hasn’t met with no interrogation and just do nothing with it for most of the day phase?

Unfortunately yes.

It's when he doesn't post at Allis when he's scum

Ok this is helpful context.

I still don’t like some of my old crew who won’t know Falcon thinking this is a good vote worthy of a town read though.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:14 am Falcon isn't scummy but he hasn't been towny yet. I'm waiting for his thots

So you would say it’s normal for him to generate only a single read on someone he hasn’t met with no interrogation and just do nothing with it for most of the day phase?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:11 am Wild Dennis has no take on me

Is wild an adjective or whatever the other thing is.

Because I hope it’s an adjective and we can run with “Wild Dennis”

Honestly this sounds like a line from a country music song.

I need to look back at anyone who legit townreads Falcon for their vote on me because I think it’s the definition of a terrible vote.

Theyve made basically zero reads in the whole game except one against me, who they don’t know at all, for reasons that I do not think hold true at all.

And no one can tell me that if the mafia has even one person who knows me well they would love the idea of parlaying lack of trust after my anniversary game into a day one elim here. Taking me to two votes on top of SVSs was a meaningful gesture particularly given it hasn’t moved all this time later.

For me it’s easily the most suspect thing that’s happened and I’ve been watching and waiting to see how others engage with it.

Scotty’s wool isn’t pure white, it’s a little cream. But he’s a good looking sheep and I definitely won’t be voting that way today.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:45 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:20 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I’m sheeping the self vote marmot hasn’t made yet. Where is he?

Ok, I'll sheep your vote.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Does this kill a wolf?

I dunno, does it?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:32 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:31 pm Never mind, Sabi is the cutest wolf, not DrWilgy.

:really:

Am I voting you? No

Seanzie is the wolfiest person so far minus golden

Wait does that make me the wolfiest or not?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:31 pm Never mind, Sabi is the cutest wolf, not DrWilgy.

I am taking this extremely personally. You managed to call out an entire mafia team and you ranked me the least cute.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:21 pm Golden has 75 posts and is voting for me, a player who has not weighed in on the game.

Golden is probably a wolf.

I thought I could sneak up on you while you weren’t looking.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?

Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.

Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:49 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:35 pm Can anyone TL;DR the seanzie and svs thing bc at this point its all over the place and I have no idea what point is trying to made by seazie in his last post.

My point is that 4 people expressed some sort of suspicion on me and I voted one. SVS then came in and pushed a false narrative on me. I don't think they realized it was false necessarily, instead I think they weren't actually critically examining my slot and tried to put in a low-blow to a townie being pushed by at least 2-3 other townies.

If a wolf comes into a thread and sees me gaining suspicion like that, the wolf does what SVS did.

SVS literally voted for me for voting for you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:39 pm Someone motivate me to super Woog. Because this is my current status:

How about you be golden and I’ll be DrWilgy

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:30 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:23 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:20 pm In any case I’m moving my vote for now to [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine and going to wash my dishes and walking my dog and other such adulting things. May or may not be back tonight.

Why are you not voting for me now?

Have a good adulting time.

You were a pressure vote for a ridiculous vote. It was a temp vote and you know that I think. This may be too.

But I don’t get a civ motivation for this. It feels like baddies would find an easy push by focusing on the boys. That’s how it feels to me, and you know how I love my feels.

And I won’t enjoy adulting but it has to be done.

I did not know it was a temp vote but I did think it was a sincere vote so moving elsewhere would have a reason. Thank you.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:20 pm In any case I’m moving my vote for now to [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine and going to wash my dishes and walking my dog and other such adulting things. May or may not be back tonight.

Why are you not voting for me now?

Have a good adulting time.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:17 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:12 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:44 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:25 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:07 pm time wise I'm a noobie, irl and mafia, however everyone I know says I play both like a vet

You have 2124 post I draw the noobie line at 2000.

where do you draw the line at irl maturity

I use the gillick competency test.

(I’m a lawyer in child protection and gillick competency is how we assess whether a child is mature enough to make their own decisions so this is technically accurate.)

Or, if you want a more serious answer, I definitely don’t draw that line based on age, but if I did it would have to be somewhere older than me.

do you think having studied arguments and rhetoric for your entire adult life has made you better at mafia? I noticed you just had a sick win in game 1 as mafia

I think I started pretty good and if anything might have gotten worse lol.

But I don’t think it’s my arguments and rhetoric that have made me good at mafia. I think it’s my ability to understand how people think. I can often see the motivations behind a post. Reads are more important arguments. I won that game because I had good reads on who I needed to kill and who would vote with me at lylo.

This?

I didn’t view this that way, but I guess it could be read that way. Not by me, lol, but by some. I view this more as drawing you out, maybe a bit of buddying, but it’s a fine line.

Yes this and what came before it. I don’t see much difference between this and the rest of Lucy, tbh. Her interactions with Dennis and Jack as mafia behaviour would also work more for me as buddying than hyperfocus. I think she’s been interacting with what’s in front of her.

Linki @Kate talking to svs

(Although, I would say that good sheeping is actually acknowledging that someone you have a strong town read on might have a good read and trusting their instincts over your own).

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:11 pm What is sheeping? It turned into a verb and now I'm confused.

Blindly following the butt in front of you.

It might not be as noticeable to you because to you my vote for Seanzie was obvious nonsense.

I had the impression that, as someone who doesn’t know me, she was willing to take my vote logic at face value and see if she could learn anything about me as a result.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:57 pm Lucy was feeling me out as well. I don’t have any sense of hyperfocus.

When? I just read your interactions, and it didn’t feel that way to me? But I might have missed it?

She was asking me a bundle of questions about how I perceive age after I used age as my crutch for voting Seanzie.

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:01 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:52 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:52 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:30 pm - lucy x family trio : what the point was all of that?

the one word motive starts with an s

You could also just say the word.

Subterfuge

It seems the one word isn't enough to explain your motive. Can you clarify? We are related but we are not one person.

Good, a hive mind would be illegal btsc

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:58 pm What is pocketing?

Buddying is what we called it

Lucy was feeling me out as well. I don’t have any sense of hyperfocus.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:48 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:45 pm I like SVS bringing heat on lucy. Not that I’m all in on Lucy being bad, but I like SVS’ pressure. Good look

I just want to check.

Are you definitely not sheeping my svs read?

what’s your SVS read? I missed it

you asked me about it, doggo. No weed for you.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:45 pm I like SVS bringing heat on lucy. Not that I’m all in on Lucy being bad, but I like SVS’ pressure. Good look

I just want to check.

Are you definitely not sheeping my svs read?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:30 pm I'm going to be honest:

- Seanzie x svs : made my eyes glaze over

- lucy x family trio : what the point was all of that?

- scotty x golden : also made my eyes glaze over

Maybe it's my mafia burn out but meh nothing is sticking to me in my Brain in terms of those major arguments.

Im glad someone told me I’m having an argument with Scotty. It’s news to me.

You’re the old man yelling at clouds

I’m clouds

I knew you were fluffy

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:33 pm (Btw sabi I need you to help me I’m posting too much I need an intervention)

Didn't you mention that you top post and don't die N1, you're a wolf?

I did tell you I wouldn't be able to post much since I'm adhering to no mafia while working

Lol no that wasn’t me but it’s funny.

(Btw sabi I need you to help me I’m posting too much I need an intervention)

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:30 pm I'm going to be honest:

- Seanzie x svs : made my eyes glaze over

- lucy x family trio : what the point was all of that?

- scotty x golden : also made my eyes glaze over

Maybe it's my mafia burn out but meh nothing is sticking to me in my Brain in terms of those major arguments.

Im glad someone told me I’m having an argument with Scotty. It’s news to me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:27 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:14 pm I see Lucy asking a lot of personal questions but not a lot of production in regards to the game.

What are your reads, @lucy?

no other content lol, I reckon they will all have good reads on one another by virtue of birth, and if I poke enough I can just tell if there's a mafia between the 3, and if there is then I start the actual fun. until then it's literally just random voting stage, is it not?

I guess

‘All the worlds a stage and all the men and women merely rands’ —Albert Einstein

Rands? I guess Einstein was calling them edgelords.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:23 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:21 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:19 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:06 pm SNIPPITY SNIP SNIP

I understand if people are bummed and want to lynch me for it but mafia isn’t not something I can sustainably do into the future while maintaining my old meta

Not looking to lynch but I would like reasons for your vote. I will not be accepting sheeping as a reason from you or anyone else.

I think that’s gonna be hard because my vote for Seanzie had no reasons.

I know it is why I am looking directly into your eyes....

ok eye contact is fine with me

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:20 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:18 pm I am not sheeping scotty onto Lucy due to my under 30 rule.

I mean that’s fine- I never asked you to sheep me anyway

I go for the fluffiest wool. But you’re right, consent is important. I hereby won’t sheep you.

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:19 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:06 pm SNIPPITY SNIP SNIP

I understand if people are bummed and want to lynch me for it but mafia isn’t not something I can sustainably do into the future while maintaining my old meta

Not looking to lynch but I would like reasons for your vote. I will not be accepting sheeping as a reason from you or anyone else.

I think that’s gonna be hard because my vote for Seanzie had no reasons.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

I’m sheeping the self vote marmot hasn’t made yet. Where is he?