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My most recent break was very good for helping me be selective upon return. I no longer have the time for everything, but I have the time for a few things.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:42 pm I don't think the importance of Colin's vote is in where he places it -- it's more important in that it exists by the numbers. The civilians lose at 2 vs. 2 because that vote exists, instead of playing on. LyLo happens sooner.
Is it different to or equal to scotty's vote being worth 2? Different because you could devise a tie plan to counter a double vote?
Usually when I implement roles like that, I specifically indicate "the bonus vote does not function during elimination phases" to avoid things like this. I hate it when vote shenanigans infect a beautiful endgame. (That's not what happened here)

In a LyLo scenario their utility is similar. Overall, a bad guy who straight up can't be lynched until X is stronger. That means that at the very least, a no lynch is going to happen if the civilians aren't perfect in their order of operations. No lynches are balls.

Oh, yes, I see what you're saying... because even though Colin is outed, you still need a day at the end to lynch him...

Yeah, so it's definitely strong then. It adds a day phase PLUS a lylo reduction of a day phase... effectively it shifts the balance by two phases.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:42 pm I don't think the importance of Colin's vote is in where he places it -- it's more important in that it exists by the numbers. The civilians lose at 2 vs. 2 because that vote exists, instead of playing on. LyLo happens sooner.

Is it different to or equal to scotty's vote being worth 2? Different because you could devise a tie plan to counter a double vote?

Two votes that, if used as a block, could reveal the teammate. Scotty having "Vote counts as 2" while colin had nothing would potentially have provided the same result for the baddies with less risk?

Perhaps the best use for Colin was wifom?

I love the chutzpah of leaving Jay alive. From an external perspective, scotty's performance feels a little like my Economics one.

If I was playing this game I would have lynched Scotty long ago.

It was interfering with his Genius play.

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