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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:27 pm
Really bothered by the idea that three people voted me for unstated reasons.

I gave a reason for my vote.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:37 am Hey Gman do you still do those vote analysis thingies?

That depends on whether or not the site's vote-tracking system was changed back to the old way or not. During my brief stint in Blue Velvet, we discovered that the vote order under each vote recipient wasn't necessarily the order in which those players voted for that person. Rather it kept everyone listed based on when they first voted. If someone was the first to vote, then switched it to a well-established train, they would still show up as the first voter instead of the last. Unless this has been altered, I can't do my technicolors because I don't have the time to search through the thread for vote order.

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:02 pm Changed my vote, sinc eI don't feel like being dead just yet.

I voted for you Day 0, timmer, so I'd rather not vote for you now just to tie it up. I'd hate for you to be a civvie and discover that I wasted a vote on someone who died early.

I like lynch drama.

I've got a case of the Mondays. Digging out from a three-day week last week and a few surprises kept me from re-reading in full. I've been trying to follow along this afternoon as best I could. Seems like a pretty standard Day 1 to me.

It was said here:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:39 pm We are accepting votes until 8am EST tomorrow because of poor wording in one of the posts. Future evolution votes will occur during Night phases.

Evolved Pokemon will not be allowed to say they have evolved, as that falls under the no role outing / info dumping rules.

If there's no way to hold people accountable for their evolution votes, then how exactly is coordinating useful to us anymore? This plan was de-fanged when Epi said we couldn't confirm evolutions.

In case this is helpful...

boo- posts
DFaraday- posts
Dragon D. Luffy- posts
Dyslexicon- posts
Dom- posts
DrWilgy- posts
Elohcin- posts
Fredwood- posts
G-Man- posts
Jackofhearts2005- posts
Long Con- posts
MacDougall- posts
Neverwhere- posts
nutella- posts
speedchuck- posts
sprityo- posts
timmer- posts
Tink- posts
TonyStarkPrime- posts

I'm not sure how much time I will have this evening before the deadline but I will re-read the thread over lunch and see if anything jumps out at me.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:11 pm I suppose the whole cordination thing has been flushed down the toilet, since half of the voters did not say who they were voting for.

Did anyone evolve? Or were told they got points (are we even allowed to reveal those things)?

I think the voting is still open. Perhaps notifications are being withheld until after the deadline.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:12 pm
Really? I've played a bunch of Epi games and never seen a no lynch.

I don't recall always seeing that declared in Epi games but I know that he advised me of such a policy's merits when I first got back in the hosting game. Unless game mechanics make the issue moot, I believe he prefers it that way. Again though, this is Simon's game, so

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:55 pm Neat. I will absolutely not voting for Dizzy. Love u fam.

Currently in the running for my point will be going to either DDL or JoH. You two fight to the death for my affection plz.

What does everyone think about ending day 1 in a tie?

In Epi games, ties result in no lynch. I'm not sure if Simon is a chip off the old block like that. Are you proposing a tie just to see what happens since it's not spelled out in the rules or to try to have a lynchless day?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:17 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:56 pm I don't have any reads, so I don't trust anyone at this point. It's an intriguing idea if it is carried out democratically. Jack's arbitrary list just doesn't sit well with me. That's not a knock against Jack; just a knock against arbitrary lists.
Why do you think my list is arbitrary?
Because you decided it on your own. That's the definition or arbitrary.
Arbitrary - Based on randomness or personal whim.

My list is not arbitrary.
This is the one I found.

subject to individual will or judgment without restriction; contingent solely upon one's discretion:

If you decided by yourself and not by a collective process, it's arbitrary. No matter how rational you claim your method is.

Besides, half the people in your list haven't even posted so I'm skeptical about the rationality of it too.

I think the whole package is arbitrary only if we all agree to run with his list because it was the first batch of names put out there. But we didn't do that. At least some of us.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:17 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:56 pm I don't have any reads, so I don't trust anyone at this point. It's an intriguing idea if it is carried out democratically. Jack's arbitrary list just doesn't sit well with me. That's not a knock against Jack; just a knock against arbitrary lists.
Why do you think my list is arbitrary?

It's not so much your list that is arbitrary. Rather, the adoption of your list by all would would make it arbitrary. Your list as you intend it (a list of people you're inclined to trust based on past experience) is meaningless to me because I'm not inclined to trust anyone at the start of the game. It's not a case of me coming at you. I'm just being picky.

If I vote for someone on Jack's list, it won't be because their name was on Jack's list. If I vote for someone not on Jack's list, it won't be because they weren't on Jack's list.

I don't have any reads, so I don't trust anyone at this point. It's an intriguing idea if it is carried out democratically. Jack's arbitrary list just doesn't sit well with me. That's not a knock against Jack; just a knock against arbitrary lists.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:10 pm Boo
Gman
Dizzy
Nutella
Speedchuck
DF

Thats my proposed list. You guys post yours. I propose we make a deadline for it and then everyone sends their votes. Is 3 hours before the end of N0 good enough?

It's currently 44 minutes until your 3-hour mark.

I'm not fine with putting such a strategy together based solely on one person's preferences. If Jack wants a list, let's all submit five or six names and select the ones that appear the most. If the plan can indeed thumb the scale in our favor, then it's too important to be nonchalant about picking names.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:49 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:06 pm Anybody disagree with "Fred, Tony, LC, Nutella, Speed" as the list of five preferred Evo's on Day 0?

I already threw my vote in there. If someone doesn't want me in there because I helped come up with the idea, swap me out for Sprityo maybe. But unless there are objections, this'll do for D0.

On N1, we can do public assigning.
If I understand you right, your Evolve Vote list is comprised of people you feel inclined to trust based on prior experience with them?

Is my understanding correct?

*kicks iphone for quote fail*

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:49 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:06 pm Anybody disagree with "Fred, Tony, LC, Nutella, Speed" as the list of five preferred Evo's on Day 0?

I already threw my vote in there. If someone doesn't want me in there because I helped come up with the idea, swap me out for Sprityo maybe. But unless there are objections, this'll do for D0.

On N1, we can do public assigning.
Is my understanding correct?
If I understand you right, your Evolve Vote list is comprised of people you feel inclined to trust based on prior experience with them?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:06 pm Anybody disagree with "Fred, Tony, LC, Nutella, Speed" as the list of five preferred Evo's on Day 0?

I already threw my vote in there. If someone doesn't want me in there because I helped come up with the idea, swap me out for Sprityo maybe. But unless there are objections, this'll do for D0.

On N1, we can do public assigning.

If I understand you right, your Evolve Vote list is comprised of people you feel inclined to trust based on prior experience with them?

I like this whole trying to break the game open and looking for tactical advantage. Reminds me of the old days. Question for you big thinkers- if we pile up 3 evolution votes on a player who is mafia, what's to stop them from saying, "Hey, yeah, I evolved," when they didn't?

Also, if this plan goes through, you should probably try to mandate people not just alternate between the same people if they're still alive. In theory, a baddie could just switch back and forth between their teammates if two baddies wind up in the evolution pool.

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