The Syndicate

I'm on break but anyone who thinks I wouldn't kill silver n1 is being redoicolus.

Ask sonji who I wanted to arrest n1 of turf, he'll ask mp himself and ask who I wanted arrested, ask him
What I was constantly saying in the scum topic

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Before the EoD, ika and Silverwolf townread each other pretty strongly, but Silverwolf's trust in ika began to wane as the day wore on. Then Silverwolf was nightkilled, and ika has latched onto her scumread of MP since then.

Ika, what do you think of Golden, Silverwolf's other top scumread?

im willing to persue that too but right now i want MP gone

Marco wrote:
But why did you immediately assume this was a 1-shot mafia vigilante?

hes scum, help me lynch him

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
An argument could made for practically anyone killing Epi/Silver, and I find this point highly ironic considering:
(1) Silverwolf was turning around on you quite a bit at the end there
(2) You were just on a scum team with Epi in Turf Wars

So... yeah.
She never changed her scum read on you, nice misrepresentation
and the second point has no relevance
Misrepresentation? Uh, no.

And yeah the second point has relevance, I hosted that game. Epi knows your scum game better than anyone; you'd have plenty of incentive to kill him, assuming the kill was Mafia Vig.

I don't understand how you think your conclusions are always solid and no one else's (except Silverwolf) are worth considering.

uh, yes, she never ever town read you not once. even at EOD she neevr even null read you

the second point has 0 relevance cus as you know yourslef, epi doesnt use meta, if he was going to scum red me off the game hes using meta. if you know me i would of killed someone like sloonie or zebra with a mafia extra.

i consider hers 10 times more right now cus she is a confirmed town flip. not only that but she was killed. porbally for her reads.

i dont listen to scums viewpoints. if you flip town i will reconsider but i dont do it till is ee the flips i want

if theres a vig in the game they need to shoot in the MP/INYW/Sig grouping

MovingPictures07 wrote:
An argument could made for practically anyone killing Epi/Silver, and I find this point highly ironic considering:
(1) Silverwolf was turning around on you quite a bit at the end there
(2) You were just on a scum team with Epi in Turf Wars

So... yeah.

She never changed her scum read on you, nice misrepresentation
and the second point has no relevance

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES
Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.
Was scum yesterday, still scum today

my reason never changed and silver was strongly suspecting you yesterday as well and loh and behold she dies. so here you want nka? Ill give you nka

you killed silver to remove a person scum reading you

hey, you were the one who brought up NKA on people, its fair game to use that agisnt you as well. i could esaily see you killing epi/silver

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:VOTE MOVINGPICTURES
Care to actually explain why?

Otherwise, I'm just ignoring you, and I strongly implore everyone else to as well.

Was scum yesterday, still scum today

my reason never changed and silver was strongly suspecting you yesterday as well and loh and behold she dies. so here you want nka? Ill give you nka

you killed silver to remove a person scum reading you

VOTE MOVINGPICTURES

VOTE FROG

LETS DO VOTE TIES!

Dyslexicon wrote:Dr. Wilgy just moved his vote without saying in thread?

he might be making it, i do the same.

i move vote then announce

Dr wigle gets it, CFD is OP

Frog wrote:meh, I don't really care tbh. at least one town is voting me. L2P scrubs.

GLGL - hopefully you'll vote marshmellow tomorrow

people here have learned, maybe you need to learn to take a step back and revaulate yourself for once. this is an exact repeat of sc2 and why people yelled at you, me inculded

Frog wrote: Anyone towns seriously voting me need to reevaluate their play.

or maybe you need to revualte your own play. you act like a sith most ofthe time and fail to reconize your won shortcomings

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:I should switch back to IAWY
Don't plz

DO IT GOLDEN ITS MUSICAL VOTES!

Epignosis wrote:Frog, you had one vote when I came in.

Witness my power.

you didnt do much honestly epi ppl were suspecting him all day 1

pedti: do it golden. we can all play musical votes

MM shout you changed vote!

pedit there we go

Dyslexicon wrote:I've lost so much sleep due to mafia over the years. Reading up on this if I'm alive D2 will be a pain. I must be a masochist.

you could ask the scums to kill you very nicely?

who knows maybe they will do it

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:i just noticed there no tie break mecnahinc....

or did i miss that
It might not matter.

I'm voting Frog if things stay like this. But I honestly doubt they will.

trust me if it reaches 10 and still tied i will change jsut to go "HAHAHAH" to everyone

pedti: its MM or frog. take a guess ( i need amusemtn for my last bit)

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:i just noticed there no tie break mecnahinc....

or did i miss that
Of course there is...

It's called seeing who bends first

gold what would you do if i changed my vote at last minuite to go "SCREW THIS"

i just noticed there no tie break mecnahinc....

or did i miss that

Sloonei wrote:Why are we not bandwagoning sig? It's Day 1, people.

CFD! CFD! CFD! CFD! CFD! CFD!

Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:delex the reason is due to experince, i have been playing for 4 years and just about every times (maybe like a handfull of games out of the 1000s of games i have played) have the scums always been acitve, there is about 90% scums in lurk so im doing this based on experince
I've played for a long time too. And I see this as basically being a random lynch. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't want your vote if he flips town though.

and if he flips scum i get yours.

(and if someone else gets lyncht shi deal is nulled, im fair like that)

the tied voting is real....

delex the reason is due to experince, i have been playing for 4 years and just about every times (maybe like a handfull of games out of the 1000s of games i have played) have the scums always been acitve, there is about 90% scums in lurk so im doing this based on experince

Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:if your willing to take a bet i might answer
I don't care about your bet. Sure. Yes. No. Fine, whatever, tell me. How sure are you based on what?

so the bet is this, if hes scum i get your vote, if hes town you have my vote

deal?

(yes im being like this intentionally, i want to see more from you as well)

Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:
Golden wrote:Look at how passionate people are in the for and against camps, you included. Are you really saying we are getting nothing?
I'm talking about his content now. I haven't read all the posts surrounding MM and IAWY even. I don't particularly feel MM is scum and there's no way of knowing IAWY's alignment. Also, I fear that if IAWY flips town then there's a lot of town on his wagon, and scum can easily defend it and throw suspicion on town later. It's just a much higher risk to me lynching someone who has barely talked.
disagree 100%

are you willingt o take a bet on the flip then?

Wtf with this bet thing? Are you so sure IAWY is going to flip scum?

if your willing to take a bet i might answer

Dyslexicon wrote:
Golden wrote:Look at how passionate people are in the for and against camps, you included. Are you really saying we are getting nothing?
I'm talking about his content now. I haven't read all the posts surrounding MM and IAWY even. I don't particularly feel MM is scum and there's no way of knowing IAWY's alignment. Also, I fear that if IAWY flips town then there's a lot of town on his wagon, and scum can easily defend it and throw suspicion on town later. It's just a much higher risk to me lynching someone who has barely talked.

disagree 100%

are you willingt o take a bet on the flip then?

Marco wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I've made a rainbow list.

Spoiler: show
Is there no rep system on this board?

thats the last thing needed on a site

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, what do we get out of lynching INAWORD? If he's scum, then yay, we get scum so that's good. But if he's town we don't really get anything.

Don't really think MM is scum (haven't read all his posts though).

we remove someone whos doing jack shit in a game

i will 100% persue someone not posting then someone posting.

jsut join us plz we can do zebra tommorw

Sloonei wrote:I have 80 minutes to play some mafia. I'm not reading the thread, but somebody tell me what's going on and why I should vote for people.

vote Inawordyes then sloonie

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:explain to me how its a fabrication cus she doesnt fabirctae reads. she was scum readding him all day
How does she give scum reads when she is scum if she doesn't fabricate them?
i belive silver already answered that herself, if she was scum she wouldn't be going after lurkers, she would be going after someone more active. she would not touch and actually probably defend the lurkers

if that doesnt suffice i can elaborate more, i dislike giving out silvers meta if i can not do so.
You do realize that going after someone more active is still a fabricated read, right?

no? she made a case on MP, everyone's yelling the case is not true.

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:explain to me how its a fabrication cus she doesnt fabirctae reads. she was scum readding him all day
How does she give scum reads when she is scum if she doesn't fabricate them?

i belive silver already answered that herself, if she was scum she wouldn't be going after lurkers, she would be going after someone more active. she would not touch and actually probably defend the lurkers

if that doesnt suffice i can elaborate more, i dislike giving out silvers meta if i can not do so.

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Since there are now no votes on MP and I have changed my mind about MM, I'm switching my vote to Silverwolf because her inconsistency regarding Inawordyes is more alarming to me than Long Con's Sloonei vote. As for the wagon on Inawordyes, I'm somewhat on the fence about him, but gun to my head, I would say he is town. I'm not confident enough in that read to vocally oppose the lynch but I am not going to vote for him unless it's to save someone who I more confidently read as civilian.

VOTE SILVERWOLF
shes town

did you read her iso? she said it was in there
I read her ISO. It didn't help wash away the inconsistency that I perceive her to have, it only made it more clear to me that her read of IAWY is a fabrication. I can't see what town motivation she would have for fabricating a read of someone who she currently has a vote for near end of day.

explain to me how its a fabrication cus she doesnt fabirctae reads. she was scum readding him all day

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote: I'm not intending to instigate anyone and, I'm sorry, but I don't feel responsible for any upset feelings when I am literally doing nothing more than playing the game. If I suspect someone for something, I'm going to voice that suspicion. If the suspicion by itself upsets someone, then I'm sorry, but I can't be blamed for that. You shouldn't be playing mafia if you cannot stand to be suspected. I like you two as mafia players but you both have a tendency to get emotional simply for being the target of suspicion, and it's just not healthy in this game.
how about you pm us post game and we talk about it out of the game,i think that will help understand persepctives more without game bias
That works for me if it works for you.

it works for me cus i feel like a lot of my personal frustraion comes from game bias,

this offer is extended to everyone in the game playing or not

a2thezebra wrote:Since there are now no votes on MP and I have changed my mind about MM, I'm switching my vote to Silverwolf because her inconsistency regarding Inawordyes is more alarming to me than Long Con's Sloonei vote. As for the wagon on Inawordyes, I'm somewhat on the fence about him, but gun to my head, I would say he is town. I'm not confident enough in that read to vocally oppose the lynch but I am not going to vote for him unless it's to save someone who I more confidently read as civilian.

VOTE SILVERWOLF

shes town

did you read her iso? she said it was in there

a2thezebra wrote: I'm not intending to instigate anyone and, I'm sorry, but I don't feel responsible for any upset feelings when I am literally doing nothing more than playing the game. If I suspect someone for something, I'm going to voice that suspicion. If the suspicion by itself upsets someone, then I'm sorry, but I can't be blamed for that. You shouldn't be playing mafia if you cannot stand to be suspected. I like you two as mafia players but you both have a tendency to get emotional simply for being the target of suspicion, and it's just not healthy in this game.

how about you pm us post game and we talk about it out of the game,i think that will help understand persepctives more without game bias

MovingPictures07 wrote: Why are you fixating on me being scum? Stop it.

make me.

last game silver was right and i have always trusted her reads over mine

a2thezebra wrote:
Golden wrote: We'd do better to do more lynching of lurkers here, I think.
I cannot stress enough how much I disagree with this view.

and i played 2 games here where lurkers were the scums.....

ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: I'm gonna give you the same consideration you've been giving me all game and tell you I don't give a fuck what you think. I've given plenty of thought on this so laugh at me all you want.

I don't care and I'm ignoring you for the rest of the day.
That's not an accurate impression of how much consideration that I've given you, because I do give a fuck what you think. That's why I find it worth pointing out that your read of IAWY seems extremely inconsistent, and that your response to me pointing that out only made it more clear.
SIgh.......

here, let me give some adivce, instigating her about such things like that is only gonna upset her, you saw me get upset too in heist, we are similar in that sense.

i think the biggest issue we (and yes i use we cus its me too that im seeing) is that both sides of us (ie me and silver vs everyone else) is insinuating that the ohter is wrong. its a matter of interpretation to us. when people just dont openly say "well i disagree for XYZ" for me at least, that's literally saying "nope you're wrong"

and maybe it has been said sevral times like that but we are jsut annyoed that we feel like everyon eis just not actaly taking the POV into consideration and trying to follow up on it

Personall this is prob better severed at OT but i feel like it was also game related

a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: I'm gonna give you the same consideration you've been giving me all game and tell you I don't give a fuck what you think. I've given plenty of thought on this so laugh at me all you want.

I don't care and I'm ignoring you for the rest of the day.
That's not an accurate impression of how much consideration that I've given you, because I do give a fuck what you think. That's why I find it worth pointing out that your read of IAWY seems extremely inconsistent, and that your response to me pointing that out only made it more clear.

SIgh.......

here, let me give some adivce, instigating her about such things like that is only gonna upset her, you saw me get upset too in heist, we are similar in that sense.

i think the biggest issue we (and yes i use we cus its me too that im seeing) is that both sides of us (ie me and silver vs everyone else) is insinuating that the ohter is wrong. its a matter of interpretation to us. when people just dont openly say "well i disagree for XYZ" for me at least, that's literally saying "nope you're wrong"

and maybe it has been said sevral times like that but we are jsut annyoed that we feel like everyon eis just not actaly taking the POV into consideration and trying to follow up on it

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion
Me too ika. Me too.
golden want to take a bet? if your lynch flips town you help my lynch MP (or a person of my choise) tommorow, if yours is right i will help you lynchaone of your choosing

deal?

i also extned this to anoyne who wants to take m up on a bet

Hey i used it in truf and heist, its NAI if thats what your look it at :P

i like how zebra complains about inconsistency when she is self admitted to make things up

sig wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:I was agaisnt the CFD last game and look what that got me, so I need to think it over a bit. However, as of right now I'm agaisnt it. He doesn't really seem scummy at all. What is the case on him?

After reading him over I'm just seeing a culture clash.
hes lurking and sevral who know him say thats scum MO?

and not only that, but rememebr last game as you mentioned it was on scum?
Yes however, it is rare for a CFD to hit scum, and funny you should mention last game sine the CFD in the long run lead to towns defeat. We'd have been better without the CFD that game.

not really, fuzzy would of lived and we would of still had our emebers. if i was set for lynch i would of set myself to save them with ym flip. scum is scum no matter what angle you take, town lost due to the fact that they ate each ohter to death not to the CFD

Didn't MP even admit in his case it could be a cultural thing? If so I'm not sure I'm trusting MP right now. I've also got you Ika as a scum lean so I'm really not happy with it atm.

and yet your not voting me, and you ignored my centrla point i made others who know him are calling him scum too

Also he has already said he isn't playing his MU game, just like I'm not playing the same I do on TS all the time. So none of these people has seen his home site play. And I know for a fact I will switch my game play/meta based on the site I'm on.

again my cental point is this: others who know him say its his scum MO

answers in red

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion
Me too ika. Me too.
golden want to take a bet? if your lynch flips town you help my lynch MP (or a person of my choise) tommorow, if yours is right i will help you lynchaone of your choosing

deal?

i also extned this to anoyne who wants to take m up on a bet
I don't have any strong conviction about any lynch, but YOU, ika, are disappointed that people won't listen yet you and silverwolf, who have never played with MP, won't listen to people who know him well about his own meta.

I'm not taking that bet, not in the slightest. I'm not voting for someone I know really well because two people who don't know him at all tell me to for reasons that just don't make sense to me because I know him well.

The more MP posts, the more he looks like his town meta to me.

so you are not convinced in your push

sig wrote:I was agaisnt the CFD last game and look what that got me, so I need to think it over a bit. However, as of right now I'm agaisnt it. He doesn't really seem scummy at all. What is the case on him?

After reading him over I'm just seeing a culture clash.

hes lurking and sevral who know him say thats scum MO?

and not only that, but rememebr last game as you mentioned it was on scum?

a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

Silverwolf wrote: IAWY I would vote for and lynch in a heartbeat

Silverwolf wrote:VOTE INAWORDYES

Hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha what the fuck.

whata bout it? if MP is scum voting scum its win-win

the thing is that most if not all setups have some protetive where numbers for sucms are the key so they can jsut go bussing willy nilly. if MP is bussing hes jsut gonna shoot himself in the foot long term

Silverwolf wrote:ika-capitalize that please

I DID!!!!!!

LETS TALK IN CAPS A LOT FOR LOLZ!

ika wrote:VOTE INAWORDYES

CHINESE FIRE DRILL TIME!!!!!!!11

FIX VOTES!!!!

GOGOGOGOGOG

vote inaworldyes

CHINESE FIRE DRILL TIME!!!!!!!11

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