The Syndicate

can anyone say CFD? :P

im up for his lynch

GOD DAMN PEDITS

Golden wrote:

ika wrote:i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion

Me too ika. Me too.

golden want to take a bet? if your lynch flips town you help my lynch MP (or a person of my choise) tommorow, if yours is right i will help you lynchaone of your choosing

deal?

i also extned this to anoyne who wants to take m up on a bet

Silverwolf wrote:I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I feel like I'm losing my fight this game.

I really don't care who we lynch today because my strong townreads are not under consideration.

ika isn't saying much and this has me very concerned

IAWY-MP's points are a very superficial and amount to playstyle and I have him back at null

sig isn't making me feel good either

That's all I have.

silver if you had to name the sucm team right now who would it be? that and 2 outsider incase the 4 are wrong?

if they killyou n1 img onna agrro the thread

im amazed at the lack of town core thats being made, everyone is just letting everything go by.

i am disappointed that everyone says "OH WE ARE LSITENING" but doesnt seem to actauly take it intoconsidera tion

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: That's a logical fallacy. "It's true because this other person did something, so now that this other person is doing this same something, they must be the same alignment!" That's never going to be accurate.

like i said mutlible games, we have evidence of it happeing in multiple players over mutiple games its a constant scum trait

I don't care. That's like saying you flipped a coin 10 times and it just happened to come up heads every time so far. Doesn't mean it will again. I'm not those people. I'm my own man.

Universal town and mafia traits are nonsense. I've found exceptions to practically every one over the years.

did i ever say its the end all tell? no

way to misrepresent my argument here

MovingPictures07 wrote: That's a logical fallacy. "It's true because this other person did something, so now that this other person is doing this same something, they must be the same alignment!" That's never going to be accurate.

like i said mutlible games, we have evidence of it happeing in multiple players over mutiple games its a constant scum trait

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:ika and I dating has zero to do with me reading him in a game and should not be used in any way for any reason by anyone

OK, fair enough, but the point is that you and ika know each other very well, regardless of what your relationship is that lead to that. So do MP and I know each other very well. And it does feel like you aren't willing to understand this.

i think we are but we disagree to it. again, we hvae had games where scums do that to players and we call out on it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:if you litarly need to know the background, we have been called retarted, told to fuck off, told to eat a dick, misprerestned and shit on.

so when we defend each other for something thats NAI, its not becasue w are dating, its because we have so much shit delt ot us

I'm sorry you've had to go through that. It's unacceptable and horrendous behavior. But I'm not doing that to you and I never would, yet I feel like Silverwolf and you aren't being open-minded to me because I made a case against one of you; whether that's actually true or not, that's how it's coming across.

when you bring our relationship in the game when we have been not doing that (i can see the context deemd it but thats not the case) we will get irate and it will infring on us cus we are so sensative, we have been not metioning it at all unless aksed

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Look, I'm not trying to anger either of you. I respect and like you both. You're both very swell people. I know you haven't used it directly, but it inevitably affects the way you both play the game, and it can victimize players who dare question either of you or the meta reads that you display for each other. I'm being mafia read because Silverwolf doesn't like the case I made on you.

and there have been a multitude of games where silver called out scumm based on that reaosn alone. it it doesnt even haev to be on me, when she pings someone based on what looks like shit reaosns its mostly cus its right.

so many people have made weak acusatiosn on her/me other and she called peopleout on that and loh and behold its sucm

litarly, you name it we have had it delt to us, we dont use our rl dating stuff or anything of the sort, we know how we playa nd thats what we defend off of

if you litarly need to know the background, we have been called retarted, told to fuck off, told to eat a dick, misprerestned and shit on.

so when we defend each other for something thats NAI, its not becasue w are dating, its because we have so much shit delt ot us

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Are you kidding me right now? You basically make ika your exception to everything. You defend him because you "can't help it". It's because you're dating. You both make it a factor in the game, even though you say you don't.

ok thats not the case at all, we do it buasue of the shit we have had on other sites, HAS 0 RELVEANCE TO OUR DATING SITUAITON

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
How can you not see the irony? It doesn't matter that you and ika are dating and Golden and I aren't.

DO NOT BREING OUR DATING LIFE TO THIS GAME WE HAVE NOT ONCE USED THAT I HAVE EXPLTIVLY ASKED FOR IT TO REAMIN OUT OF GAME

I'm not the one bringing it in. You are. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say.

no we are not, someone asked about our rl situation we mentioned ti breifly we have not used it as any reaosn on reading each ohter.

you saw truf and how we reacted, dont even start

MovingPictures07 wrote:
How can you not see the irony? It doesn't matter that you and ika are dating and Golden and I aren't.

DO NOT BREING OUR DATING LIFE TO THIS GAME WE HAVE NOT ONCE USED THAT I HAVE EXPLTIVLY ASKED FOR IT TO REAMIN OUT OF GAME

MovingPictures07 wrote:
simple he made a weak ass case.

if your swlf voting as town your argubly gametrwoing

LMAO, so because I made what in your opinion is a "weak ass case" (and of course you'd say that because it was about YOU and it's Day 1), I'm mafia? Get out of here.

Where are your cases?[/quote]

you quoted the case right then and there

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:I just don't get you silverwolf. Last game you didn't like my defending of you, but was I right? yes. Was I town? yes.

I defend people. It's what I do. If you can't get over it, you'll keep trying to mislynch me.

I don't care if you defend your townreads but at the time you hadn't give MP a townread cuz he barely posted. If you are strong townreading him now, then fine but at the time you were not.

No, I don't mind defending, but it does give someone cover to not defend themselves as much and that hurts my ability to read them.

I know, I know, I defend ika-I can't help that. I understand him and that can help with the game overall. I'm still being very cautious about him because of his lack of engagement for the most part since his trip.

to further say, after turf we have been trying to not defend each other as much, its not something we can jsut do easy, we understand each ohter ebry well so we tend to garica each other and jsut do it out of habit

a2thezebra wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:zebra-MP is scum, that's a huge mistake

Is self voting even allowed?

Oh he's scum? Why didn't you say so before, I guess I'll just go from defending him with my life to voting for his death.

WHY is he scum?

linki - Oh okay, IF he is scum. I'm not trying to tell you anything by self-voting, I'm trying to get lynched so MP won't be, at least not today.

simplehe made a weak ass case.

if your swlf voting as town your argubly gametrwoing

Silverwolf wrote:

Frog wrote:As you wish to reinvent your yourself however much 10% you wish. Either way, I k now you and your games Ika. You;re Lazy AF which is NAI which sucks AF. Your effort isn't into the actual game which sucks AF. womp... fecking.... womp...

He's not lazy. He's developed a not give a fuck attitude which tbh, is frustrating to me too. I could explain it but I'd rather let him do it. I agree though his playstyle has changed.

However, since coming here it's gotten better. In the heist game (town) and Turf Wars (scum) he did a lot better. So I'm going to expect him to do more here eventually.

Can i save this for post game? Im super furstrated and dont want to get to a yelling spat. jsut remind me after DH campaign stuff and i can

Frog wrote:

ika wrote:

Frog wrote:As you wish to reinvent your yourself however much 10% you wish. Either way, I k now you and your games Ika. You;re Lazy AF which is NAI which sucks AF. Your effort isn't into the actual game which sucks AF. womp... fecking.... womp...

no you dont, you know jack shit about me, the "not giving a fuck" is public info to everyone, you no nothing more then a common person

As you wish my friend - we have skyped for more than year years ago . It's as you wish to take it from here. I will say this however, you must adjust your approach to people. L uckily I know you personally from years of knowledge. Otherwise I would have lynched you immediately every game.

no we didnt, maybe a few month at most but even if we did, you realzie your speaking YEARS ago, you dont know me now.

you dont know my personality, im asking nicely to stop insinuating you do. i dont want to keep repeating myself

Frog wrote:I honestly thought sbout ly nch baitng you, Ika, but I f igured I'd be the one lynch baited by sloonei and/or marco.

Instead I got weak discredits without followups which was weak to say the least.

im discreding you based on the fact you know nothing about my persoanlity

MovingPictures07 wrote:
I couldn't possibly disagree with your approach to this game more, but I respect it. You'll just have to try to work with me here because I need to understand where your train of thought is with regards to behavior in order to try and make any assessment as to whether you're town or mafia.

well a simple thing is that if someone goes after me when im unavailable i will jsut react in a negative fashion no matter what. much like silver how she sometimes needs her space to get into the game, i need that as well, hesit (i dont use turf cus i was scum), i was on a constant defense where i couldn't do anyhing. i was constantly fighing for survival.

I'm not just going to sit here and blindly listen to Silverwolf or anyone else; I will gladly take into account their opinions and their history annd knowledge with your meta and playstyle, but I need to be able to communicate with you and understand where you're coming from, otherwise I can't even begin to try to form a read on you, and that's frustrating for me.

i know, if anything when me and sivler play together i tend to kinda go more on her reads cus she has been more accurate then me. and yes while it may be sheeping, and yes its follwing her and buddying. its wht i need to get reads. i needs to bounce with soemoen i trsut (ie sivler) if shes scum i will get her lynched. all i need most times is like day 1 to myself to kinda do my thing, if im given that i can do much better and be more open. when im put on defence over and over i cant do anythign

It takes detailed information for me to come to reads, and I need to know where you're coming from as much as you can. Please try to help me understand where your opinions are coming from so I can fairly assess them and decide whether I agree with you or not.

sigh..... im like polar opposite, i rahter havea summer of TLDR then wall posting, i mean wall posting for me is never my thing, jsut catn do it all that much

Your gut just doesn't do things randomly; there are clearly sources of posts and in-thread behavior where your gut is instinctively interpreting information.

Plz dont be a drixx. gut is gut when things ping me i dunno what it is or why. its why i look at people who pinged it

Frog wrote:As you wish to reinvent your yourself however much 10% you wish. Either way, I k now you and your games Ika. You;re Lazy AF which is NAI which sucks AF. Your effort isn't into the actual game which sucks AF. womp... fecking.... womp...

no you dont, you know jack shit about me, the "not giving a fuck" is public info to everyone, you no nothing more then a common person

Frog wrote:
buzzzzz - this dude is drunk. drunk recognize drunk like fuck.

Yeah, you get mislynched becayse ouy don give a fuck like you use to. You used to be so fucking pro dude. Take your play to the next level here okox.

i am 100% sober frog, dont ever and i mean EVER act like you know me.

you dont know my play or why i give this attitue or anythign about it, you dont know jack shit. ive said this 1000 timse over,the only person who understand my meta as meta and my plays and knows whats alignement indicative and whats not is silver herself.

there are a handful of people here who i feel liek are starting to get a grasp on how i play in general but only silver is the one who can call me out on something that is pure scum vs town me accurately. about 90% of what i normaly do is NAI. that inculded not giving a damn

Silverwolf wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: I don't understand this double standard. Literally no one in this thread agrees with me about ika, so yes, I am spending more time explaining and defending my view than I am explaining why I think he's scum. I already explained in full and pointed to posts why I was mafia reading him, and his continued insistence to only throw out gut reads is infuriating. Apparently I'm not accustomed to his meta even though I've seen it in action, because I feel like I'm playing a different game than everyone else. It's not an easy push. That's absurd. An easy push would have been what Frog is doing -- for the people who aren't around. It's Day fucking 1, I explained precisely why I thought ika was scum. No one agrees with me.

I have ika as null tbh. He's not as active as I like since being back and I don't like that he hasn't given a full read list. That said, I don't like your case on him. It's not only weak but looks fabricated.

The part I bolded-on D1 if you expect more than this from him, you are gonna be infuriated a lot. He goes off gut quite a bit overall as a player. That's just playstyle for him. I know, I know. I'm defending him again but mostly what I'm doing here is not only explaining his playstyle to you, but also saying why I don't like your push on him. I don't mind your other posts as much but this part, I do have huge problems with. Your ika push is bad. ika can and should be questioned but the way you are going about it looks like you are looking for reasons to scumpaint him and are going after playstyle and this is never a good idea with ika.

Pretty much this, i get reads when i get them. i dont look for logic, i don't look for consistency, i don't look for that stuff. all of that stuff is manipulative, what i look for the the motive, the reason, the why. those cant be maipulated no matter what

most times i jsut get pinged by what someone post for no reason and jsut persue it

ok so i jsut read up and i want to say one thing:

in boht turf and hest i was ina constant stuggle on being lynch vs not being lycnhed.

turf i barly got by the first 3 days, on day 3 i only got away due to vote loans. 4-5 i got away due to me bussing fuzzy in CFD

hesit i was the competing wagon on all of day 2 and most of 3.

i am very much an easy myslycnh based on my own playstyle

Golden wrote:The second rule (night chat only) is far from normal here.

^that, from what i read in rules it was only made like that due to not knowing if MU is doing it

i said it sevral times in thread golden that i was mobile and my data usages was at maxing so i couldnt do anyhting.

when MP attacked me at that angle is where i think hes scum, its easy pray

Silverwolf wrote:
If I die N1-there's a good chance ika is scum. I know that sounds weird since I defend him, but that's what he gives as a self meta tell all the time-he'd kill me N1 if he's scum.

she does have a point too......

after turf and my breakdown i had.......

just ya.... if i can i will most likely kill her n1/2

Golden wrote:

Zexy wrote: Inactive, not reading through the thread… is this his regular meta?

From my perspective, Wilgy is the most metaless player I know.

linki @ika - I bet. I can imagine you being very effective. I think the worst case scenario for you to is being on opposite sides and having to fool each other.

or worse, we are opposing scum teams.....

well maybe that wouldnt be so bad i would enjoy workin with her then :P

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote: i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

could you link me to the posts you are referring to? Please and thank you

sigh...... can you iso him and read that at least?

No. I am a lazy townie and I'm dragging you all down with me.

i know, im lazy too, i jsut got home from baingout of state

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Frog wrote:Lol Silverwolf - such effort. I'm literally just ignoring MP right now. He's either derping hard or tryhard wolf. It's really not worth the effort.

If he's tryhard wolf, it is worth the effort to me.

@LC-if you think ika and I pad ourselves to midgame, why am I dying early in my games? Makes no sense you would say that.

Indeed. Actually, I had an epiphany earlier when I suspected you that if I were a scum, I would probably nk one of you before ever suspecting either of you so that I could take the other one of you on in the thread without having the other person in defence. If anything, I think the fact you look like the pair is a disadvantage for you staying alive. Except where you are both scum, in which case it might be an advantage in avoiding the lynch for a while.

remind me to tell you how badly we want scum together. like we have had dicussions about what we would do every time

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:As far as Zebra, I know is a high content poster as town in our heist game but not as much in Turf Wars-I could compromise there as well.

I am waiting until tomorrow when metalmarsh has promised to contribute more to judge him at all.

So yeah, I would prefer IAWY with Zebra and Dr Wilgy as compromise.

Psittaciform and Soneji have got to step it up soon but I can wait until D2 due to almost nothing to work with and nothing to work with.

So there ya go-Zebra, Wilgy, IAWY and metalmarsh only if no content tomorrow.

what about sig/marco and frog reads?

have they changed

They are all town to me right now with sig being the weakest of the bunch but I like his answers to my questions and his Zebra push is good.

Your read on me?

town, i know your furstation like that is town you by a default. yes i know you have said that you can do it as scum in EXTREME situations.

i feel like if you were scum you wouldnt be so aggro about defending me

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

could you link me to the posts you are referring to? Please and thank you

sigh...... can you iso him and read that at least?

Silverwolf wrote:As far as Zebra, I know is a high content poster as town in our heist game but not as much in Turf Wars-I could compromise there as well.

I am waiting until tomorrow when metalmarsh has promised to contribute more to judge him at all.

So yeah, I would prefer IAWY with Zebra and Dr Wilgy as compromise.

Psittaciform and Soneji have got to step it up soon but I can wait until D2 due to almost nothing to work with and nothing to work with.

So there ya go-Zebra, Wilgy, IAWY and metalmarsh only if no content tomorrow.

what about sig/marco and frog reads?

have they changed

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:So basically I have Golden and Inawordyes as possible scum so far.

I know you have posted about why you find IAWY scummy, but any chance you could give a brief summary or specify the one thing that most pings you? I find as of now I have very little read of him or memory of his contributions.

I didn't like his RVS vote on Soneji and most of his posts show a lack of trying to figure the game out at all. Frog said he's a high quality and content poster as town. So I'd like to see some of that.

Also, @ika-Now that you are home, let's go over some of your reads. Do you have a rainbow list or a list like I produced earlier?

not really i had a list earlier, i dont plan on trying to reread it all either. i rather do real time stuff

ok anyways, MP i have gut read son them if that doesnt suffice then i dont got much else to say

sig is odd due to his birt of psting and being majoryldiffrent then turf

im home give 15-30 mins to settle in

When I say I can't post and you say "ok let pressure/Lynch IKA" that's litarly ignoring the fact I can't fucking post!!!

I got like 30 mins of free wifi but going though checkpoint.

Golden, she used game related reasons and your way your resisting it is that he is busy in rl, but you can see no is doing the same.

So in short: hi pot I'm kettle

OK, let me make this clear for everyone who thinks I can't do shit

I am nearly at my allowed data limit
I am out of state where I am meetings all day
I can't make proper post mobile

And yes: I HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY STRESS DUE TO PERSOANL STUFF.

This is why I'm annoyed and jabbing at anything and everything.

Look I am about to head out, I can't be posting much if at all till near eod or night. I'll be flying later.

I'll keep silver informed of when I get back to my state.

If this is how the game is going to be played i am probablly just going to replace out and not sign up anymore.

It's not fun it's just manipulating mechanics

The more impending thing is what happens if the majority in there is scum itself? If top posters are scum they can manipulate the entire game.

While I do agree on lurkers need to be lynched and stuff, it doesn't work and just boils town to mechanical play that I have no interest in pursuing.

Guts not guy

I have named them

Your scum cus you took so damn long to back up your accusations with a vote.

Eat rope

I lack reasons cus it's guy as I have said in my games that you seem
To have ignored

And as I have said, I've been mobile posting so I can't make proper post just snips here and there.

I didnt answer cus all it is is just that odd

Still don't see a vote from you

VOTE MOVING PICTURES

Let's lynch this

MovingPictures07 wrote:

ika wrote:@mp

Your the ore misrepresenting, I said scums move it as little as possible town doesn't give a damn about the vote.

I'm in a meeting but if you suspect me back it up with a vote

I just clarified. I'm not misrepresenting anything. Your logic is unsound and you refuse to recognize it.

And how many times have I said in the past 2 games I say "screw logic"?

I don't care for logic one bit.

@mp

Your the ore misrepresenting, I said scums move it as little as possible town doesn't give a damn about the vote.

I'm in a meeting but if you suspect me back it up with a vote