The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.
sig bets are essenal to the game
You and I couldn't be any more different.

acutaly i think we are quite similar :P

MovingPictures07 wrote:I will give you "World's Biggest Tunneler" award though, since that's all you're doing.

make that a socky and i will 100% self nom it

MovingPictures07 wrote:
No, I don't do sig bets anymore. They're against the spirit of the game.

sig bets are essenal to the game

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:I think MP is scum

hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?

It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."

if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game
I hope you are ready to eat crow.

this was driected at golden. but here i got one for you too

want to take a bet on sigs alignment?

I think MP is scum

hey golden are you willing to bet on MPs alignment?

It will eb a simple sig bet, if hes scum you have to put the following in your sig in the champ game(s) you play "I was fooled on the syndicate by a player I could read. I believed he was town the entire game."

if im worng i will put whatever sig you like for as long as you are in champ game

Golden wrote:
All things considered, I lean ika as third, although it is by such a small margin over others. I don't deeply suspect ika. I think ika has raised good points (like his point on sig, which I did think about, but in the end it simply didn't convince me sig was bad). But, there have been some challenges put to ika that I don't think he has handled so well... like, for instance, why he would take silverwolf's perspective on MP over other people who have actually played with MP. I think silverwolf has already proven to be an insightful player and I completely understand trusting her reads (I somewhat do already) - but there is still an extent to which listening to and taking on board those who know better is what someone would do. Ultimately, ika third over someone like scotty is also probably just as much about 'who would I feel ok being with at lylo'

Simple on why, i trust silver over anyone else. when it comes to mafia her intuition on finding scum is better then any i have encountered.

gold how come after all this time MP isnt dead? how come you still treat him as town too? didnt you say yourself that your constantly reevaluating the situation? how come you have not even batted an eye at MP even after silvers death?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:kinda wish i hammered now jsut to see reactions....
You better thank your stars you didn't.

How come?

kinda wish i hammered now jsut to see reactions....

Golden wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:In fact... UNVOTE

Just so no one comes in here and hammers this thing. I still support a DrWilgy lynch, but I'd like to gather more information.
I think this is wise. No reason not to use our time up.

I nearly swapped my vote to zebra for the same reason. But in the end I'm confident with you and me on there that if the baddies wanted to put the hammer down on Wilgy, they could have by now.

Fun fact: back when I used to play more I would hammer all the time not caring. I was considering it persoanlly

sigh.....

scotty help me lynch sig

sig wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:Well you haven't even built a bad case, you've literally done nothing besides argue with Golden and MP about stupid stuff.
I have made my case like day 2 or 3 about your slip. nobody seems to care
Not true, many have commented on it.
None agree hence why I am saying nobody cares

As for the we shit I know some
Has givin sig some
Supsion

Just because people don't agree doesn't mean they don't care. I've yet to see a case before me, I suggest you ISO me and see your mistaken and move your vote.
When you litarly try to tell me what to do with my vote I know ou are scum it's never moving now

EAT ROPE SCUM
I'm not lol I'm sayying you should ISO me and see how wrong you are. ALSO you've been trying to do that to people all game are you scummy then?

Lynch this scum now. If we don't whenever the vig is needs to shoot this to smiterines

sig wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:Well you haven't even built a bad case, you've literally done nothing besides argue with Golden and MP about stupid stuff.
I have made my case like day 2 or 3 about your slip. nobody seems to care
Not true, many have commented on it.
None agree hence why I am saying nobody cares

As for the we shit I know some
Has givin sig some
Supsion

Just because people don't agree doesn't mean they don't care. I've yet to see a case before me, I suggest you ISO me and see your mistaken and move your vote.

When you litarly try to tell me what to do with my vote I know ou are scum it's never moving now

EAT ROPE SCUM

MovingPictures07 wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:Well you haven't even built a bad case, you've literally done nothing besides argue with Golden and MP about stupid stuff.
I have made my case like day 2 or 3 about your slip. nobody seems to care
Not true, many have commented on it.

None agree hence why I am saying nobody cares

As for the we shit I know some
Has givin sig some
Supsion

Sig, I've been playing for 4 years. I've seems just about everything so your petty "noob" attack is laughable

sig wrote:VOTE ZEBRA

There is no good civ reason to encourage a hammer after being the hammer which lynched a civ and pushed us to lynch or loose.

ONCE AGAIN THIS IS LYNCH OR LOOSE!

Zebra is trying to force a hammer in an attempt to win no civ should be advocating for a hammer this early into a phase especially WITHOUT A CASE

We have shown cases and you discretion them.

Not only that but the argument one needs a case is fallious. And your biggest thing is it's not lynch or lose its

3v6 so even if you are a mislynh (and I doubt it) it would be 3v4 after scum nk. And yes I'm accounting the town vig, all he needs to do is not shoot

sig wrote:Well you haven't even built a bad case, you've literally done nothing besides argue with Golden and MP about stupid stuff.

I have made my case like day 2 or 3 about your slip. nobody seems to care

sig wrote:
ika wrote:im glad someone is finally listening to me
I'm glad you built a good case on me.............oh wait you didn't nevermind.

i like you you say "good case" to jsut furhter discredit me

im glad someone is finally listening to me

VOTE SIG

are we going to do this now?

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote:Oh and I'd like to see more from Ika and the low posters.
ok

VOTE SIG

Oh, ika, you have me in tears. That was really funny

i know, ive been busy all day and night so my posting has been low due to that

sig wrote:Oh and I'd like to see more from Ika and the low posters.

ok

VOTE SIG

FYI I'm mobile.

Hey mp, what's your meta on bussing?

Well..... not much has change about my thoughts

still willign to get sig/MP

VOTE INAWORLDYES

mobile at work but this is still scum

Dyslexicon wrote:Ika, You voted Sig at a point, but haven't changed it in the poll. Not important to you?

At work, when made vote, still am and are going to miss eod

Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:i dont care about doing isos. frog said onething and hes doing the opposite of that yes?

i also never said it excused me. its jsut who i am
So you agree with my point of view that suspecting MP and Sig for assuming the kill was a scum vig doesn't make sense? Do you really se MP being that careless as to make it his first thing to mention? I find that hard to believe.

no i disagree entirely. i can see any scum player doing such thing.

in turf i let out intentional knowlgage that sloonie was a don based on the failed arrest trying to get him killed, people then went on to suspect me for it. i have seen scums slip over even sillier things.

i have seen people litarly go "this is my second scum game"

so yes i think tey are scum for that slip

Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:as for the rest, you really dont know me i make shit cases all the time, ts entirely why dotn to begin with
That does not excuse your from me suspecting you.

Where did Frog say this was IAWY's scum meta? Do you have quotes? I recall him saying his town meta was being a leader, and then IAWY objected this.

i dont care about doing isos. frog said onething and hes doing the opposite of that yes?

i also never said it excused me. its jsut who i am

Dyslexicon wrote:Caught up. Sorting my thoughts:

Ika: Your point about MP and Sig having TMI is really bad imo. Neither strikes me as players that would make that kind of mistake, why are you not taking this into account? In what world does it make sense for you for scum!MP who is on a team with a mafia vig to come out and start the day with "oh, must be mafia vig then"? If that was me I would sure as hell avoid doing exactly that and be super aware that I shouldn't be supposed to know what the extra kill meant, and I'm pretty sure this applies to MP too.

Furthermare both MP and Sig have accounted for what made them think as they did. Your attempt to play this off as TMI looks like an excuse to scumread someone and have something to argue, and I think you're smarter than that.

Question: Why did you say people had said this play by IAWY was his scum meta? Noone said that iirc.
frog iirc
What is your read on IAWY now?
would still lynch
What if there actually is a town vig in the setup?
then egg on me, doesnt change the cnetral point, i know some of the setup haev overlaps of town and scum vig

as for the rest, you really dont know me i make shit cases all the time, ts entirely why dotn to begin with

sig wrote:VOTE IKA

He is acting really pingy, role hunting, and trying to set up bandwagons.

it took you that long to vote me? good god yoru sucm

VOTE SIG

lynch with fire plz

sig wrote:
ika wrote:hey golden, why are you misrepresenting silvers stances? she never voted sonji becasue he didnt post anythign yet. she will go after low content lurkers day1 but not a non-poster, there is a distinct diffrence in that.

not only that but she has fully explained how she thinks MPs interactions, case, and entire play is jsut full of scum motivation.

not only that now, he has said that it is scum vig who did the kill and not considered it to be town vig. sig did the same, the only way this can be is that one of two thing are true

A) they are scum who know its scum vig
B) they are PR where a scum vig is exsiting
Bullshit, you come out of nowhere trying to get me lynched based on the fact I didn't see the a town vig? And that I didn't think town would kill either of them day 1. That is common sense and deductive reasoning. I also don't like those saying we should claim PR roles if we have any. That is painting a big ole target on anyone who claims especially if we are in a set up without a protector/doctor. THIS IS ROLE HUNTING and in a game with so few PRs it isn't something we want done.

the bolded and underlined is town me very much. its not common sense or deductive reasoning, if i was a vig i would of shot epi easy. the fact you went to scum vig right away is more telling intself

and you saw MP (or was it you) who didnt even see the twon vig in the setups so your argument is moot

ika wrote:MP case:

super defensive and cautious
Constantly discrediting me and silver
weak case on me to try to set me up
info knowledges slip about a scum vig not thinking about the town vig perspective

Sig case:

super zealous compared to how he was in turf
info knowledges slip about a scum vig not thinking about the town vig perspective[/quote

Wasn't an info knowledge slip, and actually no I'm not. I was just as zealous if not more so it was just all directed into staying alive and it worked for like five phases. So don't pull that crap when you've only ever played like two games with me, you've got no clue what my meta is even for TS much less for every other site I've played on.

good thing i dont use your other sites as refrence, if you are saying what i think is invaild show me town games where you have been hyper active and had this same line of thinkging im seeing nwo

sig wrote:
ika wrote:
sig wrote: Tell them this on downton they don't believe me. :P
But seriously, this is what I've been saying and I really dislike MM for pushing that Ika must be civ.
about what?

are you thinking im scum?
I've got you as a scum lean, however if MM or you were to flip scum then yeah I think the other is a teammate.

why are you doing pre-flip assoicatives, that like scum 101 type stuff

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:and FTR marco has pretty much hit all the points i would be making by now on this golden vs silver stuff.
You made them all AT THE TIME.

There is no need for you to make them again.

golden, you rlaize what im doing is more thn jsut defending her, im getting you ready for champ game too.

MP case:

super defensive and cautious
Constantly discrediting me and silver
weak case on me to try to set me up
info knowledges slip about a scum vig not thinking about the town vig perspective

Sig case:

super zealous compared to how he was in turf
info knowledges slip about a scum vig not thinking about the town vig perspective

Golden wrote:
ika wrote:hey golden, why are you misrepresenting silvers stances?
Entirely irrelevant. Silver is clearly town and dead. I'm only interested in representing what my perception of her stances was, for the purposes of responding to Marco's questions. She is dead ika. Her affiliation is known. You can stop defending her now.

you realize if you are going to championship game you have to also realize that this kind of stuff is going to happen.

im not tryign to defend her, im going after you

also MM ill try makng my case in a min, i really suck with them

Marco wrote:
ika wrote:hey golden, why are you misrepresenting silvers stances? she never voted sonji becasue he didnt post anythign yet. she will go after low content lurkers day1 but not a non-poster, there is a distinct diffrence in that.

not only that but she has fully explained how she thinks MPs interactions, case, and entire play is jsut full of scum motivation.

not only that now, he has said that it is scum vig who did the kill and not considered it to be town vig. sig did the same, the only way this can be is that one of two thing are true

A) they are scum who know its scum vig
B) they are PR where a scum vig is exsiting
Do you mean sig?

regaridn the PR thing? no, both MP and sig did it

if its the misrepresenations and narrative of how things unfoleded, i mean goldenm hes activly still trying to discredit a CONFIRMED TOWN

and FTR marco has pretty much hit all the points i would be making by now on this golden vs silver stuff.

hey golden, why are you misrepresenting silvers stances? she never voted sonji becasue he didnt post anythign yet. she will go after low content lurkers day1 but not a non-poster, there is a distinct diffrence in that.

not only that but she has fully explained how she thinks MPs interactions, case, and entire play is jsut full of scum motivation.

not only that now, he has said that it is scum vig who did the kill and not considered it to be town vig. sig did the same, the only way this can be is that one of two thing are true

A) they are scum who know its scum vig
B) they are PR where a scum vig is exsiting

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
This logic should also apply to MovingPictures, no?

it should

MM go iso silver/MP interactions too though silver and tell me why that isnt a TvS

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Well, clearly sig didn't.

MM, your VT whats the first thing you would do in reading a matrix setup?

your a PR in ths matrix setup, what would you read first?

do you get what im saying? unless sig is a PR that doesnt allow a town vig to exist, he should of known that it could be town or scum.

if hes town PR that confiremd a scum vig existance he should come out with it. i didnt read all diffrent setups bu i knew town adn scum vig existed before even signing

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Look, I'm not trying to anger either of you. I respect and like you both. You're both very swell people. I know you haven't used it directly, but it inevitably affects the way you both play the game, and it can victimize players who dare question either of you or the meta reads that you display for each other. I'm being mafia read because Silverwolf doesn't like the case I made on you.
and there have been a multitude of games where silver called out scumm based on that reaosn alone. it it doesnt even haev to be on me, when she pings someone based on what looks like shit reaosns its mostly cus its right.

so many people have made weak acusatiosn on her/me other and she called peopleout on that and loh and behold its sucm
Let me elaborate. I have caught scum before who try to mislynch me as town based on similar bad reasoning that MP used on ika.

This was a huge ping to me.

I want to know why Golden has such an issue with this and calls in tunneling when he tunneled the shit out of me most of the game.

Again, he's making me very suspicious along with MP for his lack of consistency here.

heres a small snip from sivlers iso.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:does someone want to give em a rundown of what happened while iw as gone? i went back to work and didnt read since
I voted for you once, before moving it to other things.

I hoped you could make a case on MP.
Please read this post ika.
the case was explained yesterday/today repeated, its follow up on sivlers death and his weak case and his over defensiveness and discredits

i dont buy either that MP did not account town!vig, i think he knowledge slipped that its scum vig

Would you be able to pull any quotes on it?

I recall what happened at the start of this day, but I'm not bothered by it. For what it's worth, sig also made a similar mistake, though in his case, he just didn't notice the civ vig in the matrix.

iso silver, if sig made that slip i would pin him next after MP.

if he read matrix he should see town vig easy.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
ika wrote:does someone want to give em a rundown of what happened while iw as gone? i went back to work and didnt read since
I voted for you once, before moving it to other things.

I hoped you could make a case on MP.
Please read this post ika.

the case was explained yesterday/today repeated, its follow up on sivlers death and his weak case and his over defensiveness and discredits

i dont buy either that MP did not account town!vig, i think he knowledge slipped that its scum vig

ok i got lazy about reading.

someoen jsut quote themselfs if i missed anythign

sig wrote: Tell them this on downton they don't believe me. :P
But seriously, this is what I've been saying and I really dislike MM for pushing that Ika must be civ.

about what?

are you thinking im scum?

im just going to ctl f my name

Dyslexicon wrote:
ika wrote:I'm on break but anyone who thinks I wouldn't kill silver n1 is being redoicolus.
I was so smugly going to call you out for your contradiction until I realized this said "wouldn't". >_>

ok i do have to ask if it snot to much are you male or female? its been kinda buggin me

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:I'm on break but anyone who thinks I wouldn't kill silver n1 is being redoicolus.
So you did kill her.
If I was scum, yes that would be the case.
So are you confessing or are you saying that you were framed?

framed obviously.

does someone want to give em a rundown of what happened while iw as gone? i went back to work and didnt read since

a2thezebra wrote:
ika wrote:I'm on break but anyone who thinks I wouldn't kill silver n1 is being redoicolus.
So you did kill her.

If I was scum, yes that would be the case.

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