The Syndicate

Spacedaisy wrote:I play how I play Ika, hopefully you will learn how to read me better in the future as a result. I believe your signature is lacking something now that the game is over and my civ alignment has been proven.

im not missing anything dasiy, the condition was that you got lynched, you got nked

Spacedaisy wrote:I thought for sure that the reason llama was suspecting me so hard was because he had blocked me, it's why I did not really suspect him.

I have never had a game where I suspected so many of the wrong people. I felt truly confident in the Bubbles lynch and the lynch before that, can't recall who it was now. I also really suspected Matt. At least I was t wrong to trust the people I trusted, lol. What a fail game for me.

i hope you also read my post why i will supesct you if thats hwo your tonw play is

DFaraday wrote:Good game, civvies!

Ika, why did you kill me? That was one of the more legitimately frustrating experiences I've had in Mafia, A. Because it was totally unexpected, and B. Because I thought I had just saved Epi and would be a massive help to the town.

funny enough i was debating between you and dasiy for the longest time, when you went 2 days and everyone jsut "dropped" it i was concerned about it. daisy wanted to sig bet me so i was willing to take her up on it.

with all the banwagon going on too i felt it wasnt going to be a scum lynch and i wanted to sort your slot. sorry bout that :P

@dasiy when you read this, there was a very spcific reaosn why i contstanly scum read you outside of the buddying, your post have no tone in it. when i have a player who litarly post with no tone i auto scum read it cus its one of the few thigns that will strike me off. i use some tone o read but when its tone deaf i cant figure anyhting out

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh well.

In hindsight, I do think killing Long Con helped us out. He was lined up for the lynch the next day, and I can't imagine how I would have faired with a confirmed civilian Epignosis.

Good game civs. You gave us so many chances, but you got your shit together at the end, kind of. :P

why did you guys kill silver and BM ppl to vote me?

Elohcin wrote:Ika - you can take the banner off your signature. Epi told me to remove it b/c it wasn't good. He wants me to ask LC to make them.

I like it though......

When the new one comes out I'll change it over

Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote: if you want a 100% tell just push me to my breaking point (but its not recomended)
I'd rather people didn't do this to read ika. There's plenty of other ways to do it.

^that very much, if this is what people are going to use for any games i sign up for i will just not play. i wanted to throw it out there but i would like if its not used.

oh also, i was glad when elo didnt allow the "i am town" thing to be checked, i will point those out weather they are fun or not.

i have to say that the bm to vote me is an easy way to piss me off, and for anyone who questions it, when i rage like that its 100% town indicative of me, i have only been able to pull it out once as scum where i got irate at a 3rd party scum.

if you want a 100% tell just push me to my breaking point (but its not recomended)

Frankly the long con kill was more ideal overall. I think it was a good wifom maker as stated

Elohcin wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Need premission

What was the reason for killing silver n1?

So for anyone wondering why I never posted I don't do cypher posting

Illyria wrote: ^^ THIS. Ika, you are making it very difficult to believe that you are a Confused Civvie.

THEN FUCKIGN VOTE ME TOMMORW THE FACT EVERYONE FUCKINS SUSPECTS ME MAGICALY NOW IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. LITYL EVERYONE SOMEHOW WENT FROM IM TOW TO SCM IN A MATTER OF WHAT? HRS? MINUITES? ONE GOD DAMN POST?

EVERYOEN IS CALLING ME SCUM SO THEREFORE I MUST BE CONFIRMED SCUM. LETS FUCKING VOTE ME TOMMORW AND SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US OK?

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:
Scotty wrote:
ika wrote:Has anyone concluded yet that Epi is bad? And whoever the lynch remover is better not use it
Ika give me the breakdown on why Epi is bad in your words. And not just "because he is"
A) the silver NK that I wasn't responsible for i dont belive you
B) his overall play which is better than yours, since you voted Illyria instead of Sorsha i like you you misrepresent the point i made and narrow it to one
C) your case as well which even the author isn't convinced about again not the point im making nice misrepresentation

mod is no lynch an option

its good to know scotty is rpbally the lynch remover

Scotty wrote:
ika wrote:Has anyone concluded yet that Epi is bad? And whoever the lynch remover is better not use it
Ika give me the breakdown on why Epi is bad in your words. And not just "because he is"

A) the silver NK
B) his overall play
C) your case as well

mod will there be a no-lynch option?

Has anyone concluded yet that Epi is bad? And whoever the lynch remover is better not use it

Scotty wrote:Fuckin a.

I give up.

This is why we lynch epi tommorw........

im also predciting scotty was bm to not be able to vote epi or somthing bullshitty

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im done here, im nto posting for rest of day, god damn fucking myslynch me already

oh btw epis sig has been posted elsewhere and is borderline OGC doing that

LoRab wrote:
ika wrote:
Epignosis wrote:ika insists that he knows that civilians only need the lynch to be successful. Nowhere was I disputing that. However, since he raises that point, ika's votes are:

Turf Wars, ika insisted we kill Silverwolf. MCS, ika insisted his team kill Silverwolf.

I don't think the mafia would have thought to kill Silverwolf Night 1 as a means of framing ika. The MCS one even occurred after the Downton one.

Question: If you don't believe ika killed Silverwolf, who among the living would think to kill her Night 1?
two things:

1) you said civies lose to lack of PR play. you said no toher reason so nice try on backtracking

2) anyone who played/saw turf and how we acted towards each ohter here evn know that we were stongly town reading each ohter and that its a perfect opertunity to not only demoralized me, but make a me a easy myslynch. to answer the question you would kill her.

i know wht he said i was cleared now. he lie checked me n1 about killign silver
That would be a poor choice of what to LD, and he's smarter than that. All that says is that you didn't carry out the kill, as Epi points out. Also, I don't think confirmed civ means what you think it means.

Epignosis wrote:Three people I won't lynch: Dom, Black Rock, Illyria

Three people I would lynch: ika, Matt, Scotty, Lorab, MetalMarsh89,

Your counting skills are confusing me. As is the comma after MetalMarsh89.[/quote

GO READ THE DAMN GAME I WAS 100% INSTENT ON BEING THE ONE TO ENACT IT. SO IF YOU THINK IM JSUT GONNA NOT DO IT BULLSHIT.

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:
Epignosis wrote:ika insists that he knows that civilians only need the lynch to be successful. Nowhere was I disputing that. However, since he raises that point, ika's votes are:

Turf Wars, ika insisted we kill Silverwolf. MCS, ika insisted his team kill Silverwolf.

I don't think the mafia would have thought to kill Silverwolf Night 1 as a means of framing ika. The MCS one even occurred after the Downton one.

Question: If you don't believe ika killed Silverwolf, who among the living would think to kill her Night 1?
two things:

1) you said civies lose to lack of PR play. you said no toher reason so nice try on backtracking

2) anyone who played/saw turf and how we acted towards each ohter here evn know that we were stongly town reading each ohter and that its a perfect opertunity to not only demoralized me, but make a me a easy myslynch. to answer the question you would kill her.

i know wht he said i was cleared now. he lie checked me n1 about killign silver
I have hosted about a quarter of the games on this site and I've been here over three years. I think I know why civilians generally lose. You're oversimplifying my point and accusing me of backtracking. Okay fella.

How do you know Logan checked you Night 1? Furthermore, you didn't have to be the one to actually carry
out the kill. So you have had Sorsha do it, and your line would come back clean.

how else would he say im confrimed civ, and you know from truf even that i wanted to eb the one to do it but you guys kept saying otherwise.

and i made it clear over and over i would do it, i refuse to let anyone else do it if i were scum

Epignosis wrote:ika insists that he knows that civilians only need the lynch to be successful. Nowhere was I disputing that. However, since he raises that point, ika's votes are:

Turf Wars, ika insisted we kill Silverwolf. MCS, ika insisted his team kill Silverwolf.

I don't think the mafia would have thought to kill Silverwolf Night 1 as a means of framing ika. The MCS one even occurred after the Downton one.

Question: If you don't believe ika killed Silverwolf, who among the living would think to kill her Night 1?

two things:

1) you said civies lose to lack of PR play. you said no toher reason so nice try on backtracking

2) anyone who played/saw turf and how we acted towards each ohter here evn know that we were stongly town reading each ohter and that its a perfect opertunity to not only demoralized me, but make a me a easy myslynch. to answer the question you would kill her.

i know wht he said i was cleared now. he lie checked me n1 about killign silver

its the same with mine if you look at it you see it has no "last visited" time

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:That beign said, i think epi is jsut making bullshit about knowing who's on and who's not, its very easy to put on invisible mode to hide yourself and unless he has powers to bypass that (and if he does and uses it i would call that cheating for using something only he can get that others can not). and even then i think its a stretch
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Nothing powerful about it.

didnt change my point that if one thinks town loses based on PR or lack of results of PR play is silly. town at its core is nothign more then town vs mafia and town should only need the power of the lynch

That beign said, i think epi is jsut making bullshit about knowing who's on and who's not, its very easy to put on invisible mode to hide yourself and unless he has powers to bypass that (and if he does and uses it i would call that cheating for using something only he can get that others can not). and even then i think its a stretch

Epignosis wrote:As for how I know it, I keep track of when you bitches last logged in. I pay attention to when Days end and Nights end. I see who was online during that window and who wasn't. Some people have not been using their roles.

That's one big reason civilians lose, ika. They don't use their roles.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

thats rich, if you were a logcial player you would know thats the most fallcious argument to make. town doesnt need its roles to win, they only need the lynch. to make an argument that players dont use role = town loses is super terrible.

town realistcly if played right, would never need their roles, like i said, i played 3 games here and the single game where i was town and the PR didnt use his role, we won. other 2 games everyone used thier roles.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Dom, why did you vote for... nobody?

hey MM who would you vote for tommorw?

i like how dom tries to discret the confirmed town with a simple "oh he was blackmailed"

so prob epi and dom?

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:do you plan on voting me tomorrow?

and no, civies lose because nobody it trying to find town.
I don't have plans.

You're wrong.

Maybe third time lucky:

ika, why did you vote thellama73?
no im not, i played 3 games here already and 2 of them where i rolled scum i saw town eat itself

the third town won cus we got gf ay one and then had a basic town core
I see you've played three times here and you know why mafia wins most of the time.

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doesnt take an expert to see why towns losing so much, i mena if was dicussed in turf itself so i dunno why your arguing something like this

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:do you plan on voting me tomorrow?

and no, civies lose because nobody it trying to find town.
I don't have plans.

You're wrong.

Maybe third time lucky:

ika, why did you vote thellama73?

no im not, i played 3 games here already and 2 of them where i rolled scum i saw town eat itself

the third town won cus we got gf ay one and then had a basic town core

do you plan on voting me tomorrow?

and no, civies lose because nobody it trying to find town.

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:sigh......
ika, why did you vote thellama73?

why have you not voted me yet when you contiounsly suspect me?

sigh......

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense
At first glance, that would seem to be the case. But optimal strategy would leave him alone, let him stop the lynch, and then night kill him then.
no......

thats suboptimal, we have all night phase then for a confirmed town to speak his thoughts. the optimal play is to remove ny chance of any confrimed towns ever showing, even if he only made a few post, a confirmed town in night is 10 times better then no confrimed towns
We?

eevryone who is alive and can post

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense
At first glance, that would seem to be the case. But optimal strategy would leave him alone, let him stop the lynch, and then night kill him then.

no......

thats suboptimal, we have all night phase then for a confirmed town to speak his thoughts. the optimal play is to remove ny chance of any confrimed towns ever showing, even if he only made a few post, a confirmed town in night is 10 times better then no confrimed towns

Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:ika, why'd you kill Long Con?

read the post above that, i answered your damn question

if he was that role, lynching him today would confirm him as town going into night. so if scums checked him that makes the most sense

Epignosis wrote:No, upon reflection, I still think the mafia are playing head games and having a laugh at killing the top suspect.

Joseph Moseley
Mr. Moseley get's a second chance at Downton as First Footman after leaving his job as a butler serving Isobel Crawley. He's a bit of a misfit but strives to do his job well.
Likes: Having someone to talk to
Dislikes: Unkindness
Second chances are always nice. Mr. Moseley will not be lynched the first time he receives the most votes.

also epi, while it would entirely be my kind of kill becasue it is what you said, it makes head games, im not scum

fyi I'm at the movies so I'll be prob be posting tonight.

scums are in longcon/llama/matt/dom

i think the former 2 then the later being the last

About to go to my overnight but I happened to notice something intresting......

More tommorw

Matt wrote:K, just by Sorsha's ISO, I'd be down with an ika or LC lynch tomorrow. Cool beans.

care to explain mine yet?

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:Also@epi, your answer is only justifying he reason to kill silver n1
How so?

she was the only player to call out the us (the scum team) you know as well as i do if you left her alive she would of gotten us lynched

Scotty wrote:
ika wrote:Ok Lilith is mafia yesterday she said I was prob town and now I'm scum?
I would love to hear why she's not voting me and how her read changed so fast
Could be that you're voting her right now

Don't Garcia he question and if that's he case that kinda bull shy don't you think?

At the time of her post my voted has moved off her so it's invalid anyways

Also@epi, your answer is only justifying he reason to kill silver n1

Ok Lilith is mafia yesterday she said I was prob town and now I'm scum?
I would love to hear why she's not voting me and how her read changed so fast

Matt if you think I'm scum, back it up with a vote then or I call bullshit

Matt wrote:Let's CFD ika. And if he flips bad, we get Lorab next.

How about we not?

Especially when I'm freaking mobile and can't post proper.

Elaborate dom

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