The Syndicate

DDL will never trust me again after the Heroes of Olympus game where I got myself strong town cred and tricked town into wasting resources on my mafia scummate who could tank a lot by presenting him as the last remaining member of the other mafia. That teammate was Marco, who I have yet to lose with as mafia together(5-0 currently).

Silverwolf wrote:Soneji-I'd like to publicly thank you for your kind comments in scum chat. Before anyone complains, I only got access out of concern for ika and only temporarily. I understand why it wasn't released and I thank the hosts for their consideration of ika and your kind comments as well.

Yes well, don't spread it around too much, it will hurt my cold, detached image I have in games.

I reached out to Ika earlier privately but as the game was still going on I didn't feel it appropriate to send that PM to you as well.

Hope to play with you two in the future.

On NF where I play the games with the one-third ratio are role madness games of 30+, most of the time with two(on rare occasions three) mafia teams. So if 30 players there would be ten mafia, five on each team(potentially 6-4 or even 7-3). Its balanced as well as RM can be and as I have learned from my interactions with those from other sites, what they consider role madness is tame compared to the beast it has become on NF. We love it though.

You didn't even mention the hardest part of the set-up, that being our low numbers. Mafia is usually one-third or one-fourth of the total players, in this game we had one-fifth the total players.

I seem to have the most success as mafia when its I and another top tier player in charge of a mixed group that mostly lay low.

It would have made a difference in the night arrest choice between Nero and TH. That may have given town the win, depending on if Epi could get a mislynch on chaindeath or Nero.

My supreme confidence should have tipped people in that I might know something that they do not. There is rarely a situation where I would concede.

ika wrote:
Soneji wrote:Considering how much more focused pressure happened after the Prisoner arrived and the masterful bus Epi and I pulled, I don't think I could say this was an underwhelming win. Maybe from your perspective as you've been dead for quite awhile.

This game was really draining on me. I'm used to 24/24 with no talking at night. 48/24 with night posting is a killer, though I think it while generally pro-town is also somewhat pro-mafia as town loses it focus.
I didnt see the rest of it after my arrest. i think we all did well overall but i feel like it (FMPOV) was a lot of jsut town eating itself

Can't argue against that.

Considering how much more focused pressure happened after the Prisoner arrived and the masterful bus Epi and I pulled, I don't think I could say this was an underwhelming win. Maybe from your perspective as you've been dead for quite awhile.

This game was really draining on me. I'm used to 24/24 with no talking at night. 48/24 with night posting is a killer, though I think it while generally pro-town is also somewhat pro-mafia as town loses it focus.

Even we're locked out of the topic now Ika, its lost to the abyss. We won though, aren't you happy?

Silverwolf wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
Sloonei wrote:sorry i spent so much time and energy trying to get you lynched, quin and sig.

That CFD was amazing but it kinda doomed me personally in this game. It caused me to shake up so many of my reads from earlier in the game, and it turned out all of my new ideas were wrong and my old ones were much more on the right track.

Soneji had me fooled the whole time though. If it weren't for those last day shenanigans I was never going to vote for him. Very well played Soneji and the rest of you cops.

This is so very true for pretty much everyone but Silverwolf. Silverwolf has incredible instincts. However, I have never seen so many civs be so absolutely wrong and yet 100% they were right as I did in this game. People who usually have outstanding instincts as well. It was almost painful to watch at times.

Also, I have to share my own Slooneji story. Sloonei, you were originally supposed to be the Chief and soneji was supposed to be my Don, but because I flubbed and got Sloonei and soneji mixed up, I had to flip flop your roles because one of the role card messages was read as soon as I sent it. I felt like an idiot.
Thank You Daisy and soneji and also sig for what you said after I died!! Prisoner 509 and Sloonei were great at analysis and it was really me knowing ika and gut and stool pidgeon stuff that had me doing what I did.

I needed to do a better job of explaining my reads. I am an emotional/passionate player and that distracts me sometimes. I was supremely frustrated with feeling like I wasn't being listened to but I didn't have a lot to go on, just gut and the fact I don't like lurkers and the stool pidgeon stuff. It was hard to read, coming back, some of the stuff said about me by indiglo. It wasn't personal but still hard to read.

That said, no hard feeling anyone!!

Damn about the BTSC, I really wanted to see how ika operated here.

Ika defended your honor as nobly in our BTSC thread as he did in the main thread

I was both lamenting the civs waving away your reads based on meta and passion while also being thankful that they did as you had our entire team nailed. I know all too well the feeling of being so right in your reads but getting ignored, the trick is to do it so often people have to take notice

We kept you around as long as we did mainly to keep Ika happy :P

It would only truly be disappointing if I was town. Reading the mafia chat is one of my favorite parts of games when I'm town/indie. This does benefit me in the end, as now no one can truly see the depths of my villainy other then the hosts and my scummates

Wearing it with pride. It actually fits pretty well under my signature.

Where did the baddie chat go anyways? I can still reach it through the link in my PM but I don't see it around under current job 2 like I used to.

Sloonei was also certainly a joy to play with. Hope you don't draw Marco as mafia in your first Champs game, hes as good or better than me at deceiving people.

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:This was my first time being bad in a long ass while. Felt good.

Sometimes.
You really kicked ass. You and Soneji were the MVPs for sure.

Speaking of which, I'm still amazed that Soneji's double arrest succeeded so many times despite being mathematically improbable.
Soneji had incredible insight to arrest Nerolunar when he did. Were I around, I might have argued him out of it. We had tried to arrest Nerolunar before and it failed, so my thinking was Nerolunar and Sloonei were the Dons, and Turnip Head had one of two lynch stops (like we got).

I triple checked several different things before submitting that and even then I was paranoid about being wrong. I think the main thing for me was that you misread TH's post about you being his Don(he was changing up the classic "brother from another mother" into "Don from another mother") and a post he made after the failed lynch on him, where he worries about being killed(but not arrested). There were other minor things that added to those but they were pretty major ones.

My favorite thing this game was using people's mistrust of me against them, to turn them against townies, valid scumhunting methods and save my teammates. SVS especially was easy to manipulate in this manner.

I want to thank Jay most of all, after the hosts, for sparking activity and making this game exciting. I probably would have just maintained my under the radar, catching up routine but when he entered it was like: new challenger approaching.

Silverwolf was also very spot on with her reads, loved her passion and feistiness.

Epi and I very much hinted towards the Prisoner not mattering. The game would be heavily unbalanced if the Cops had to rely on the town to take out the Dons to win, as the Dons were immune to the actions of the cops. Neither faction of town can meet their wincon if only the Dons remained from each family, so Cops win by default if only one of them is alive against both Dons.

I win.

You even have diplomatic immunity in this game.

Its Skull Kid from The Legend of Zelda : Majora's Mask, my favorite game of all time.

We could always do a fusion and become Slooneji.

P920, you look to be the only one with a real chance of beating out 813 for parole. Make your case for why I should vote you.

The opportunistic ones yes.

You wouldn't want to cut a deal then, P483?

Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Also are we able to deduce why Silverwolf was so sure Soneji has to be a cop? I am not inclined to believe she was the Stool Pigeon herself, so like what's up with her certainty?
Have you read his most recent posts?
I had not read them before making that post. Hey soneji are you bad?

I am good

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.

No shenanigans, just whats been right in front of your face this whole time.

@MP: It is the first time I have worn it here. It is a long time favorite of players in the NF mafia community, alongside my Edgar and Kiba sets. The last of those wouldn't feel right to wear here, though.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Soneji wrote:Is there a way to right-align signatures on this sight?
Not that I'm aware of, but consider it added to the list.

Thanks...the majority of my signatures look far better when right-aligned. Only a few are meant for center-aligned.

Is there a way to right-align signatures on this sight?

I am impressed by P813's dedication. He has my vote...for now.

Come and have a cup of tea with me 509. You would make an amusing informant.

chaindeath wrote:
Soneji wrote:Prisoners, if you wish to have my vote you will have to entertain me. Get to it, for the night is dark and full of terrors
Yes, terrors like you arresting people as the police chief.

Prison is a place of reform chaindeath, there is nothing terrifying about it

Prisoners, if you wish to have my vote you will have to entertain me. Get to it, for the night is dark and full of terrors

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Soneji wrote:That Nerolunar was lynched says to me that Epi successfully deduced my role. The Prisoner likely wasn't arrested due to what Epi himself stated as the reason he hadn't been arrested in prior phases: he doesn't interfere with the cop win-con.

Elohcin

Epi waved away suspicion of her based on meta reasons that she would be active if she had BTSC and hes been too vocal of chaindeath for me to put much trust in him being the Police Chief.
Who do you think the seemer was, and what degree of confidence do you have in your answer?

Ika, 99%

That Nerolunar was lynched says to me that Epi successfully deduced my role. The Prisoner likely wasn't arrested due to what Epi himself stated as the reason he hadn't been arrested in prior phases: he doesn't interfere with the cop win-con.

Elohcin

Epi waved away suspicion of her based on meta reasons that she would be active if she had BTSC and hes been too vocal of chaindeath for me to put much trust in him being the Police Chief.

Elo and chaindeath would be my picks for cops. I have felt good about Nero these last few phases and Epi flipping cop adds to that.

The Prisoner has defeated his archenemy and deserves to take his place as the new Warden, one who will hopefully be good to the inmates as he knows what it is like in there.

Prisoner509

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Sloonei, did you ever think you'd have 1,000 posts in a Mafia game?
This game is probably the first time as a player I'll have more than 100 posts. Even with post-game posts being counted, I don't think I've ever passed that amount on NF.
This is Prisoner 509378's first game.

If you weren't a confirmed town I wouldn't have been able to handle playing with you.

*has flashback to last year Champion's game*

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Sloonei, did you ever think you'd have 1,000 posts in a Mafia game?

This game is probably the first time as a player I'll have more than 100 posts. Even with post-game posts being counted, I don't think I've ever passed that amount on NF.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Valid observation, Soneji. How do you feel that reflects on Nero and chain?

If Epi flips as a cop, I'd feel worse about chaindeath and better about Nero. It would come off to me as him wanting to press both as mafia so that he could put Elo and Dom in the townpile but wanting Nero to look worse between the two.

I've been looking over Epi's posts last phase again and something that stood out to me is that while Epi kept pushing chaindeath and Nero as teammates, he never really talked about why chaindeath is suspicious outside of connecting him to Nero.

Epignosis wrote:chaindeath

Epignosis is starting with you.

Epignosis wrote:But Epignosis is going to have to start tomorrow, because he has other things to do right now.

He never actually got around to starting in on chaindeath but went back to focusing on Nero.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Epi is nearly mechanically confirmed as a townie now, so try again.
You asked me to explain my reasoning for a post I made near phase start, before this Epi as a Don thing started up. Your "try again" is incredibly twisting to act as if I'm only making the point to dissuade people away from the idea.
Why would I twist anything? I can't be a cop.
To get a rise out of me? Do you agree or disagree with the point that your "try again" doesn't apply to my answering of a question from before this whole Epi situation started?
I think you're way too worried about "try again", and instead of focusing on that you should answer its call: if Epi is no longer the doubtless cop you painted him to be at the opening of this phase, then where do you stand?

I have been focusing on thinking through that. If Epi is a Don, I have to rethink my position on Elo due to his defending of her earlier and Sloonei and TH become suspects again, mainly TH who hasn't been around and was a viable suspect earlier. Nero and chaindeath then become quite probably teammates.

At this moment the issue for me is that I've basically slotted Sloonei as a Don for most of this game based off of Ika's saying that an arrest failed on him. Him saying that he thinks there is a 3/10 chance that Epi is a Don threw me through a loop, as I'd think if he was Don he'd put it as a 1/10, unless he doubts TH being a Don.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Epi is nearly mechanically confirmed as a townie now, so try again.
You asked me to explain my reasoning for a post I made near phase start, before this Epi as a Don thing started up. Your "try again" is incredibly twisting to act as if I'm only making the point to dissuade people away from the idea.
Why would I twist anything? I can't be a cop.

To get a rise out of me? Do you agree or disagree with the point that your "try again" doesn't apply to my answering of a question from before this whole Epi situation started?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Epi is nearly mechanically confirmed as a townie now, so try again.

You asked me to explain my reasoning for a post I made near phase start, before this Epi as a Don thing started up. Your "try again" is incredibly twisting to act as if I'm only making the point to dissuade people away from the idea.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm having an epiphany moment and Soneji is a cop. Everything working his favor lately has always been small, and it only seemed meaningful because Epi and Nero had absorbed our attention. This guy has been full of crap for days.

"I am playing harder now because I want to show what I'm made of."

There's no reason that wouldn't have also impacted his lurky early game. Bull.

Why wouldn't it, if I wasn't motivated to do so at that time?

"I'm used to the site format and style now."

This website is extremely easy to grasp, and nothing in his posts implies a struggle with player style. Bull.

Kill him.

For someone who comes from a site with unlimited multi-quote and lynches not being in polls, it does take some getting used to. The players here are heavily meta reliant, metas that I have no knowledge of because I haven't played here much. Matt in the Spirited Away game was doing fake BTSC posts in the game thread and flipped town. There is a cultural difference and it takes time to get used to players after having been in only one place for three years.

Why does this board have a limit on how many quotes you can have?

Epignosis wrote:
Soneji is a trusted player now?

I didn't say that. What cop team is there if you, Eloh, and Dom are all town?[/quote]

chaindeath, Nerolunar, Soneji, and Turnip Head.[/quote]

Yeah you screwed up. Oops!

You're only trying to appeal to S~V~S at this point. You don't believe TH is bad. You're obvious and you hate it.[/quote]

No, I don't believe Turnip Head is bad. I don't believe S~V~S is either (in fact, I think I have her role pegged).[/quote]

Hes very wishy-washy on who the cop team is without offering much explanation on why his views keep changing.

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