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by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:52 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

PonySparkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:51 pm why boring boe?
I agree with what Quokka said about their latest post.

It does not feel interested in sorting. They are prioritizing having suspects instead.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

dodo wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:50 pm
Quokka wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:48 pm
dodo wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:46 pm y'know what? let's have some fun :grin:

i think My Shell is town
You thought nutellaphant was town too right? Who do you think is wolf then?
right now, paprika, akemi, and maybe you?

things are moving fast i'm dizzy
This list does not feel correct.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

If all of the dodo voters switched to boringboi then I would be very happy with the poll right now.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Town:

Fuskdall
NurseWilgy
Paprika
dodo
Akemi Homura
Quokka
1337

Null:
Maid
TwoSillyPorcupines
boringboi

Scum:
My Shell
nutellaphant
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Fuskdall wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:42 pm you wanna see what tmi on town looks like because that's what tmi on town looks like
What post is this referring to?
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

[VOTE: my shell] aubergine
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

I do not feel that Paprika's reads are difficult to follow. But that's just me.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

My Shell wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:35 pm
Paprika wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:20 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:18 pm
Paprika wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:17 pm Ahhhh Martin I feel like everytime you give a read on me in your posts, it always starts out with doubtful sound logic but then a "But maybe not"
Urghhh it's nervewrecking lol

what do you think about Martin
Oh man, he's winning for SURE. I said this in the above. Like any alignment he is, he's winning. So I can only hope he's town. He's got this room in the palm of his hand, well deserved too. I hope there's a medic/doct to be on them.
This is a weird read

Also your long post is too long
My Shell wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:36 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:22 pm
Paprika wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:05 pm Alright so just going to scrap the Sloonei roleplaying because i think i can't pull it off well and it's going to get me scumread lo
I would like to point out that Paprika said this before making the most Sloonei-esque post of the game so far.

I am back to town reading Paprika.
I did think the same thing

He is probably town but I disagree on some stuff
My Shell, could you please explain to me the thought process between these two posts?

On the one hand it looks like you suspect Paprika for their "weird reads" and a post that is "too long."

But on the other hand, you say he is probably town. What is the point of criticizing them like that if you are also town reading them?
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:33 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

dodo wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:29 pm sooooooo we lynching paprika or......
I would prefer not to, personally.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

PonySparkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:25 pm wow paprika's roleplaying so hard its not even town
I am having trouble understanding your perspective, TheSeductivePeanut. What does this mean?
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:24 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

PonySparkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:22 pm what'd i miss in the last 3 pages?
Paprika is town.

nutellaphant is scum. So is My Shell.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:22 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Paprika wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:20 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:18 pm
Paprika wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:17 pm Ahhhh Martin I feel like everytime you give a read on me in your posts, it always starts out with doubtful sound logic but then a "But maybe not"
Urghhh it's nervewrecking lol

what do you think about Martin
Oh man, he's winning for SURE. I said this in the above. Like any alignment he is, he's winning. So I can only hope he's town. He's got this room in the palm of his hand, well deserved too. I hope there's a medic/doct to be on them.
I do not understand why you feel this way about the way I'm playing, but I appreciate it.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:22 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Paprika wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:05 pm Alright so just going to scrap the Sloonei roleplaying because i think i can't pull it off well and it's going to get me scumread lo
I would like to point out that Paprika said this before making the most Sloonei-esque post of the game so far.

I am back to town reading Paprika.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Never mind my last post. Paprika's big post wipes away my entire read on them.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:12 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Akemi Homura wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:01 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:54 pm Paprika appears to be either unwilling or unable to suspect people:
Spoiler: show
Paprika wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:57 am
My Shell wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:14 am
Fuskdall wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:57 pm Mafia team, please tell me if you have a power that will kill people if their real name is revealed
why ask this ?
maybe he is town and he slipped that he doesn't know the abilities of mafia because he's town
maybe he is mafia playing dumb and trying to say some unique things to appear town

I think its the first one myshell (please use this against me if we flip them red guahaha)
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:50 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:33 am
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:12 am
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:05 am
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:01 am[VOTE: 1337] aubergine
I find this vote to be rather opportunistic.
why do you say this? Do you think 1337 is village?
I mean, I just talked about this in my last post. I don't see why they a wolf would make up a miller claim when no one else was posting in the thread at the time.
yeah wth people jumped on that real quick for what seems like nothing other than a role playing meme
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:54 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:08 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:00 pm It's a pretty big reach to say that 1312 is role fishing just by claiming miller.
Agreed. It's optimal play if 1312 is indeed Miller. If 1312 is fakeclaiming, he should be exed.
WOAH WTH
Why are people honest ly jumping on this so quickly. Someone jokes "i am mafia", that doesn't mean that they are binned mafia, its like at best NAI and should be ignored unless they have nothing else to contribute at the end of the day

Btw isn't Miller a role that is never self-aware?
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:56 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:24 am This is really blowing up my archetype sorting ability. There are a lot of players who only make that post as town. Some of them are in this game.
I'm feeling pretty good about Fuskdall being towny, I think they are looking at the miller claim rather openly on what type of player they are as context rather than just saying objectively what is anti-town
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:00 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:09 pm :pout: So why is 1612 sus?
So I probably town read Quokka here as well for not bw'ing and going against the grain.

You know personally, I don't really know how to feel about 1337's claim and entrance but I think it was rather bold and gained a lot of traction that I would not want as mafia which is why I am also inclined to believe it is town
I don't really know what to think about the people pushing 1337. I think more importantly the people who aren't reacting to it might be mafia but that just might mean they're afk so we'll see how they read this situation in the future.
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:07 pm
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:27 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:52 am You're pretty sus.
Is that all you can say?
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:09 pm :pout: So why is 1612 sus?
Claiming miller is the best way to start a role fishing action and if not fully discussed one can go away with it.
I don't find the towniness in the way he claimed.
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:49 pm
By the way there is confirmed alignment cop in this game
I'm a miller, feel free to start dropping your cop covers

Also please go easy on me because I'm new to mafia
Red - role fishing
Orange - the only thing that is useful
Brown - probably RP but I don't believe it
oh shit this is a great post, tinfoil town
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:17 pm 1337 the way things are going, either Maid is correct town and they are right on you, or they are tinfoil town and you're both town

I don't see Maid doing this opportunistic play if you are indeed town. I will cry if this is some beautiful distancing but I don't see you either as mafia
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:28 pm oh wait @Quokka , my town read, why do you sus Maid, my town read?
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:43 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:40 pm [unvote][/unvote]

I think Paprika, Maid and 1612 are all town. They are engaging the game in a messy and transparent way and questioning and re-evaluating facts about other players.

On the other hand I didn't like dodo popping in to shade Paprika without commenting on the 1612 miller business. :charlieblackmon:

[VOTE: dodo] aubergine
YESSS QUOKKAY <3 <3 The town circle has been formeddd ⭕
although i don't think 1337 and maid are happy with each other but i can live with that for today
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:54 pm jk i didn't actually vote, i don't think ur mafia tbh but yeah i'd appreciate if you throw shade on the reallll mafia dodo
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:59 pm im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:18 pm No. I am just talking about dodo's logs, as a sockplayer, doesn't seem scummy to me. Specifically, their earlier logs, contesting Akemi's push bytown reading the Nutella elephant in the room. And then their Level 1 Read saying it's me distancing by open wolfing my teammates didn't seem like a legit push. I have no idea what type of player they are, just going off my what I am seeing.

Where did that read even come from? I don't see how you arrived at that though with my quote even if I tried to twist the context.
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:30 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 pm
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:18 pm No. I am just talking about dodo's logs, as a sockplayer, doesn't seem scummy to me. Specifically, their earlier logs, contesting Akemi's push bytown reading the Nutella elephant in the room. And then their Level 1 Read saying it's me distancing by open wolfing my teammates didn't seem like a legit push. I have no idea what type of player they are, just going off my what I am seeing.

Where did that read even come from? I don't see how you arrived at that though with my quote even if I tried to twist the context.
I'm just wondering what made you jump to the conclusion that dodo doing something scummy must be due to them faking it rather than being scum. And I interpreted your second sentence as saying they don't usually act this scummy. It's weird to say that just because dodo had an okay opening it means they must be faking every time they do something scummy from then on.
No. It is not a slip.
Let me explain my thought process again. Dodo asks who my teammates are as mafia so I jokingly say my town reads, you and Maid are my "mafia teammates" and that I would faction kill one of you since they asked nicely.
She then comes to the wild conclusion that I am an open wolfer and that "Ez game" is just the three of us. I saw that response as a joke because they were just reciprocating my tone which is why I asked for their real reads.

Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 pm These are some pretty defensive reactions when I called out your slip. I think I am pretty comfortable with that theory now.
No. It is not a defensive reaction.
I'm just trying to improve my neglected role play Sloonei since this is a Doppelganster game.
Clearly, I am doing a horrible job.

I'm still want to town read Quokkay but I am less confident now with this shady train of thought.
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:47 pm The town circle is already broken after a short 30 minutes. It was a good run, Quokka.
I can't tell if I responded too strongly for your liking or this is just you taking advantage of me town reading you, I think it's just the former honestly.

I really like Martin's train of thought here, I want to put them on my town reads.
:eye:
Yes.

I've also decided once again Quokka is Town. I have a lot of townreads and not as many scumreads, so this is going to be a "form a towncore and lock the mafia out of the game" kind of game from me.
I'm worried that Paprika's behavior is not about "forming a towncore", but more about them being too generous with their town reads.

In general I appreciate having a towncore, but Paprika's posts give me a sense of a wolf who is trying not to get on anyone's bad side.

I think quite a few of his reads (which I quoted above) come off as superficial or easy.

But at the same time I can see a town perspective in some of his posts as well.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Paprika appears to be either unwilling or unable to suspect people:
Spoiler: show
Paprika wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:57 am
My Shell wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:14 am
Fuskdall wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:57 pm Mafia team, please tell me if you have a power that will kill people if their real name is revealed
why ask this ?
maybe he is town and he slipped that he doesn't know the abilities of mafia because he's town
maybe he is mafia playing dumb and trying to say some unique things to appear town

I think its the first one myshell (please use this against me if we flip them red guahaha)
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:50 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:33 am
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:12 am
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:05 am
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:01 am[VOTE: 1337] aubergine
I find this vote to be rather opportunistic.
why do you say this? Do you think 1337 is village?
I mean, I just talked about this in my last post. I don't see why they a wolf would make up a miller claim when no one else was posting in the thread at the time.
yeah wth people jumped on that real quick for what seems like nothing other than a role playing meme
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:54 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:08 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:00 pm It's a pretty big reach to say that 1312 is role fishing just by claiming miller.
Agreed. It's optimal play if 1312 is indeed Miller. If 1312 is fakeclaiming, he should be exed.
WOAH WTH
Why are people honest ly jumping on this so quickly. Someone jokes "i am mafia", that doesn't mean that they are binned mafia, its like at best NAI and should be ignored unless they have nothing else to contribute at the end of the day

Btw isn't Miller a role that is never self-aware?
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:56 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:24 am This is really blowing up my archetype sorting ability. There are a lot of players who only make that post as town. Some of them are in this game.
I'm feeling pretty good about Fuskdall being towny, I think they are looking at the miller claim rather openly on what type of player they are as context rather than just saying objectively what is anti-town
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:00 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:09 pm :pout: So why is 1612 sus?
So I probably town read Quokka here as well for not bw'ing and going against the grain.

You know personally, I don't really know how to feel about 1337's claim and entrance but I think it was rather bold and gained a lot of traction that I would not want as mafia which is why I am also inclined to believe it is town
I don't really know what to think about the people pushing 1337. I think more importantly the people who aren't reacting to it might be mafia but that just might mean they're afk so we'll see how they read this situation in the future.
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:07 pm
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:27 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:52 am You're pretty sus.
Is that all you can say?
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:09 pm :pout: So why is 1612 sus?
Claiming miller is the best way to start a role fishing action and if not fully discussed one can go away with it.
I don't find the towniness in the way he claimed.
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:49 pm
By the way there is confirmed alignment cop in this game
I'm a miller, feel free to start dropping your cop covers

Also please go easy on me because I'm new to mafia
Red - role fishing
Orange - the only thing that is useful
Brown - probably RP but I don't believe it
oh shit this is a great post, tinfoil town
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:17 pm 1337 the way things are going, either Maid is correct town and they are right on you, or they are tinfoil town and you're both town

I don't see Maid doing this opportunistic play if you are indeed town. I will cry if this is some beautiful distancing but I don't see you either as mafia
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:28 pm oh wait @Quokka , my town read, why do you sus Maid, my town read?
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:43 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:40 pm [unvote][/unvote]

I think Paprika, Maid and 1612 are all town. They are engaging the game in a messy and transparent way and questioning and re-evaluating facts about other players.

On the other hand I didn't like dodo popping in to shade Paprika without commenting on the 1612 miller business. :charlieblackmon:

[VOTE: dodo] aubergine
YESSS QUOKKAY <3 <3 The town circle has been formeddd ⭕
although i don't think 1337 and maid are happy with each other but i can live with that for today
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:54 pm jk i didn't actually vote, i don't think ur mafia tbh but yeah i'd appreciate if you throw shade on the reallll mafia dodo
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:59 pm im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:18 pm No. I am just talking about dodo's logs, as a sockplayer, doesn't seem scummy to me. Specifically, their earlier logs, contesting Akemi's push bytown reading the Nutella elephant in the room. And then their Level 1 Read saying it's me distancing by open wolfing my teammates didn't seem like a legit push. I have no idea what type of player they are, just going off my what I am seeing.

Where did that read even come from? I don't see how you arrived at that though with my quote even if I tried to twist the context.
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:30 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 pm
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:18 pm No. I am just talking about dodo's logs, as a sockplayer, doesn't seem scummy to me. Specifically, their earlier logs, contesting Akemi's push bytown reading the Nutella elephant in the room. And then their Level 1 Read saying it's me distancing by open wolfing my teammates didn't seem like a legit push. I have no idea what type of player they are, just going off my what I am seeing.

Where did that read even come from? I don't see how you arrived at that though with my quote even if I tried to twist the context.
I'm just wondering what made you jump to the conclusion that dodo doing something scummy must be due to them faking it rather than being scum. And I interpreted your second sentence as saying they don't usually act this scummy. It's weird to say that just because dodo had an okay opening it means they must be faking every time they do something scummy from then on.
No. It is not a slip.
Let me explain my thought process again. Dodo asks who my teammates are as mafia so I jokingly say my town reads, you and Maid are my "mafia teammates" and that I would faction kill one of you since they asked nicely.
She then comes to the wild conclusion that I am an open wolfer and that "Ez game" is just the three of us. I saw that response as a joke because they were just reciprocating my tone which is why I asked for their real reads.

Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:23 pm These are some pretty defensive reactions when I called out your slip. I think I am pretty comfortable with that theory now.
No. It is not a defensive reaction.
I'm just trying to improve my neglected role play Sloonei since this is a Doppelganster game.
Clearly, I am doing a horrible job.

I'm still want to town read Quokkay but I am less confident now with this shady train of thought.
Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:47 pm The town circle is already broken after a short 30 minutes. It was a good run, Quokka.
I can't tell if I responded too strongly for your liking or this is just you taking advantage of me town reading you, I think it's just the former honestly.

I really like Martin's train of thought here, I want to put them on my town reads.
:eye:
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Fuskdall wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:21 pm People, please talk to me about Made.
Made or Maid?
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:24 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

I do not see where NurseWilgy asked nutellaphent about dodo. But that said, I would now be interested to know what nutellaphent thinks about the fact that dodo is the leading bandwagon to this point in the day.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:03 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

My Shell wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:48 pm Tell me who is wolf then?

What do you think about paprika
I am taking note of the fact that My Shell has repeatedly brought Paprika up with negative connotations, but she has so far not delivered any reasons to validate her suspicion. What is suspicious about Paprika's weird posts, @My Shell?
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:52 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

[VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Akemi Homura wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:25 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:24 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:14 pm I'm beginning to think Fuskfall has TMI on dodo.
I'm beginning to think Fuskdall is town.
Explain.
Their posts feel very fresh and honest to me. This post is a good example:
Fuskdall wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:24 am This is really blowing up my archetype sorting ability. There are a lot of players who only make that post as town. Some of them are in this game.
I like that Fuskdall is talking openly about their gameplay and the difficulties they are finding to be inherent in this setup.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:23 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:20 pm
Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:18 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:12 pm
Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:55 pm I still believe that Maid is a good place to vote today.
I don't remember you explaining your SR about me.
You responded to it.
Then it was weak enough to be forgotten.
Do you have an update?
I said that you feel more like you are trying to find suspects than you are trying to understand people.
And I said town's job is to find suspects
Town's job is to solve the game.

And before that you said I was being cringy and stretching. So I have to wonder what you think my alignment is so far.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Akemi Homura wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:14 pm I'm beginning to think Fuskfall has TMI on dodo.
I'm beginning to think Fuskdall is town.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:20 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
Replies: 1672
Views: 33010

Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:18 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:12 pm
Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:55 pm I still believe that Maid is a good place to vote today.
I don't remember you explaining your SR about me.
You responded to it.
Then it was weak enough to be forgotten.
Do you have an update?
I said that you feel more like you are trying to find suspects than you are trying to understand people.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:11 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:55 pm I still believe that Maid is a good place to vote today.
I don't remember you explaining your SR about me.
You responded to it.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:10 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:06 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:13 pm It's a chaotic time in my life right now, moving countries! I need to catch up.
I can vote Akemi for this excuse or Nutelaphant for the??? reads.
Not dodo today.

Thoughts?
I do not agree that these are reasons to vote for people.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:05 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

My Shell wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:50 pm I see your vote is on Nutellaphant I could vote there maybe as she did not explain any reads
I do not agree that this is a reason to vote for somebody.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:55 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

I still believe that Maid is a good place to vote today.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:49 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Paprika wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:07 pm
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:27 pm
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:52 am You're pretty sus.
Is that all you can say?
Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:09 pm :pout: So why is 1612 sus?
Claiming miller is the best way to start a role fishing action and if not fully discussed one can go away with it.
I don't find the towniness in the way he claimed.
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:49 pm
By the way there is confirmed alignment cop in this game
I'm a miller, feel free to start dropping your cop covers

Also please go easy on me because I'm new to mafia
Red - role fishing
Orange - the only thing that is useful
Brown - probably RP but I don't believe it
oh shit this is a great post, tinfoil town
For the most part I feel vaguely suspicious of Paprika, but this reaction to Maid feels very spontaneous and genuine. I do not agree with the reaction, to be clear, however I feel that it comes from an honest place. I would otherwise feel suspicious of Paprika, and admittedly this is not the strongest point in existence, but this post feels like their playstyle of being very sporadic and impulsive shines through in a post like this.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:04 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Fuskdall wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:03 pm Dodo is so obviously Town that all votes on Dodo should be considered wolfy.
I do not have a read on dodo yet. What makes you so confident about them?
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:49 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

PonySparkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:33 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 pm I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69
i did, some cover for the cop would be nice
I’m the cop. Red check on TunaSandwichProject.
by MartinWP69
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:48 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:36 am Regarding the activity, I doubt that the low posters are wolves, but I have no reason to call them villagers, so I hope their activity will increase.
Forgive me Maid, but I don’t know what purpose this post serves.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:31 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

NurseWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:09 pm
NurseWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:07 pm 1337 looks good
Akemi is decent
Boring is boring
Dodo shouldn't be made extinct
Fuskfall looks good
Maid serves the town
N in Nutellaphant stands for null
My Shell is rude
Quokka looks good

Gut scum-reading Paprika and I'm not sure why.
Ponystarkprime is forgettable.
:shrug2:
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:48 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:31 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:23 pm
dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:21 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:20 pm
dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:19 pm
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:16 pm
dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:15 pm
you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?
Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?
he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird
To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.
that’s worse
How so?
PSP was either saying he really thought you were bad and stayed silent on why...OOOORRRR....he was joking which means he’s hasn’t said ANYTHING but fluff this game!!!!

this. man. is. bad.
I do not follow. I thought TravelingSalesPerson was just fishing for reactions. It was Day 0 and nothing was happening, so it is NAI to me that they would make pushes like that. It was not fluff, rather I thought it felt more like an endeavor to generate reads.

What I find suspicious is that they didn’t seem personally invested in those pushes. But the pushes themselves were fine.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:30 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:24 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:57 pm I have a strange observation to make about Maid, so please forgive me if this is confusing to any of you.

I feel as though Maid looks like they are searching for wolves instead of townies. Another way to put it is they are looking for suspects instead of making reads. I am referring to posts like these ones when I say this:
Maid wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:07 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:22 am Hard claim Mason with Fuskdall. Sheep us for the glory.

Is everyone just intentionally ignoring the fact nutella outed herself?
:disappoint: masons don't claim in day 0
Maid wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:34 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:32 pm My Day 1 scum read is actually proven to be 100% accurate in every game I've played on here and on MU. nutella is lock scum.

TSP possible teammate.
*Idontbelieveyou.gif
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:38 am
1337 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:10 am Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.
Good RP, you are pocketing everyone, well done!
Maid also voted for 1337 following the miller claim but unvoted once others started coming to their defense. I think it looks opportunistic, and the unvote was nervous backtracking.
I'm anything but nervous, I said the reason I didn't vote, it was because 1337 repeated the claim.
you're stretch things out so they get cringy
Re-evaluation is not backtracking
I still feel that your posts so far make you look more concerned with finding a suspect than making actual reads.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:23 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:21 pm
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:20 pm
dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:19 pm
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:16 pm
dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:15 pm
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:14 pm Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy
you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?
Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?
he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird
To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.
that’s worse
How so?
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:20 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:19 pm
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:16 pm
dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:15 pm
My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:14 pm Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy
you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?
Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?
he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird
To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:13 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

But that could just be a product of the roleplay.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:13 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

dodo wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:06 pm is psp playing tsp’s meta?
It looks that way. I still think they are mildly suspicious. Their Day 0 pushes felt half-hearted.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:04 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Akemi Homura wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:58 pm I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69
I did not take that claim seriously.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:57 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

I have a strange observation to make about Maid, so please forgive me if this is confusing to any of you.

I feel as though Maid looks like they are searching for wolves instead of townies. Another way to put it is they are looking for suspects instead of making reads. I am referring to posts like these ones when I say this:
Maid wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:07 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:22 am Hard claim Mason with Fuskdall. Sheep us for the glory.

Is everyone just intentionally ignoring the fact nutella outed herself?
:disappoint: masons don't claim in day 0
Maid wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:34 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:32 pm My Day 1 scum read is actually proven to be 100% accurate in every game I've played on here and on MU. nutella is lock scum.

TSP possible teammate.
*Idontbelieveyou.gif
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:38 am
1337 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:10 am Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.
Good RP, you are pocketing everyone, well done!
Maid also voted for 1337 following the miller claim but unvoted once others started coming to their defense. I think it looks opportunistic, and the unvote was nervous backtracking.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:39 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

I would like to figure out if 1337's miller claim was roleplay or serious, so I am reviewing the games they linked to for their meta (though there are only two games and they are both on The Syndicate, but I do believe 1612 is an experienced player in other communities).

It does not look like 1612 has ever claimed miller in a previous game, or at least not in either of the ones they provided for this game. Furthermore, they never claim to be new to mafia, only new to The Syndicate. Thus, it is unlikely that 1337 is roleplaying when they say that they are new or that they are a miller.

But that got me wondering if anyone here is new. I thought Made was new, but they linked to games from as far back as 2014, so it appears they are an experienced player returning from a long absence. Duskfall's earliest linked game is from April of this year, but he looks like a confident and skilled player in each of those games. Therefore I think Duskfall is also not an inexperienced player. There is nobody in this game who would qualify as "new" or "inexperienced", but I am at a loss as to why anyone would want to roleplay as a noob when they are experienced and their sockpuppet character is too. It is baffling behavior, but for now I feel it is NAI.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:20 am
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

[VOTE: maid] aubergine
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:51 am
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Fuskdall wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:20 am
MartinWP69 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:34 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:49 pm By the way there is confirmed alignment cop in this game because I'm a miller, feel free to start dropping your cop covers

Also please go easy on me because I'm new to mafia

Claiming miller in a closed setup is something a wolf might do if they were afraid of getting cop-checked (not that I want to directly accuse 1337 of being a wolf
). This player looked frantic in their earlier posts, so maybe they are claiming miller due to nervousness.

However, it is also possible that they are being honest and claimed because they anticipate that a cop will check them later on. I do not think they needed to tell us that there is a cop in the setup. In my experience that role is usually in games like this one. But it feels unlikely that a nervous wolf would come up with this claim when nobody was pressuring them in any way.
this does not give me good vibrations
Why not?
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:33 am
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

My Shell wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:12 am
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:05 am
Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:01 am[VOTE: 1337] aubergine
I find this vote to be rather opportunistic.
why do you say this? Do you think 1337 is village?
I mean, I just talked about this in my last post. I don't see why they a wolf would make up a miller claim when no one else was posting in the thread at the time.
by MartinWP69
Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:05 am
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

Maid wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:01 am[VOTE: 1337] aubergine
I find this vote to be rather opportunistic.
by MartinWP69
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

1337 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:49 pm By the way there is confirmed alignment cop in this game because I'm a miller, feel free to start dropping your cop covers

Also please go easy on me because I'm new to mafia
Claiming miller in a closed setup is something a wolf might do if they were afraid of getting cop-checked (not that I want to directly accuse 1337 of being a wolf). This player looked frantic in their earlier posts, so maybe they are claiming miller due to nervousness.

However, it is also possible that they are being honest and claimed because they anticipate that a cop will check them later on. I do not think they needed to tell us that there is a cop in the setup. In my experience that role is usually in games like this one. But it feels unlikely that a nervous wolf would come up with this claim when nobody was pressuring them in any way.
by MartinWP69
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:27 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

[VOTE: PonySparkPrime] aubergine

His play so far looks provocative, but I don't feel he's actually doing anything.
by MartinWP69
Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:48 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 0

PonySparkPrime wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:48 pm martin wolf
Can you explain what it is that makes you say this?
by MartinWP69
Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:14 pm
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 0

Fuskdall wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:07 pmHi
Your name sounds dirty. :eek:

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