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by Echo
Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:39 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach [Night 2]
Replies: 504
Views: 10862

Re: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach

I'm here for a bit, mostly (and, unfortunately, skimming, as I meant to read more last night since I knew I'd be busy this evening).
juliets wrote: I have moved away from Coltrane but he does only have 3 posts as someone just pointed out and in his last post he seemed angry and then gave up. I'm not wild about that but I guess it doesn't mean he's bad.
Sorry for not responding right away, juliets - I was irritated last night and needed to step away. I'll respond to this:
juliets wrote:John, it would be helpful to me if you would just remind me of what things you said in the main thread. You're right that low contribution doesn't mean no contribution it's just that nothing stands out to me. So maybe just a short synopsis of what your suspicions or thoughts were would be helpful. Thanks.
And wow, it's a lot harder to remember even my own posts from a thread I can't check. Basically, I threw out three suspicions: Mac, sig, and Epi as a tinfoil because I believed him to be steering the thread. Now that Epi's been NK'ed, I wish I could look back more at who exactly I saw being steered and voting every which way he went. I eventually settled on Mac because I liked the meta argument more than anything else, knowing I'd be last on the train.

Someone said my vote was a "useless" vote at the end of a train, but I would disagree, for sure - we don't know about manipulations or anything of the sort, so having a large majority lead on one person is helpful. Also, I'd be called out whether or not I voted Mac (at the end of a train or on sig instead), so there's that. But I digress.

Here's what I like so far being said in this thread:

1) I find Scotty's comments on Prisoner regarding his/her disinterest in The Process compelling if, indeed, there is a Process role. The Process would be one to say that Cheerleader is not much to be looked at at this moment :shifty: Then again, I can also empathize with Prisoner's sentiments - I'm almost always inclined to ignore the "buzzing" of these random additions. Then again (yes, again), it IS the GoC, so this is less likely to be an annoyance and more likely to be something not to ignore.

2) This:
S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because you guys are following Golden's vote around, you being the primary one.

Question to everyone on the beach: who would you lynch if everyone was on the poll and not just the Sand-Surfers?
I'd probably still go with Sig, but I'm increasingly comfortable with my vote for Soneji.
Does it make a difference to you that Soneji voted for sig on Day 1?

Linki: I'll read you later.
Easy distancing perhaps? People voting for each other in a thread with changeable votes doesn't mean much for gauging connection.

Linki @Prisoner. OK.

I have said what she did, but am happy to do so again. In the other thread, she made one big post where she said she felt Made and Wilgy were getting a bad rap. She did this without pointing fingers at anyone who might be giving them a bad rap, though. Then she wrote several sentences saying nothing, and said that she felt OK about me, LC and (???). "Same old same old" kind of thing. No negative opinions, or even remotely critical, about anyone. Bea and I have a long history. I want to know where she is at. So far I am not sure she is at the same place I am. I am not sure she has expressed even one remote suspect. Bea is always polite, but Bea does not shrink from speaking her mind, even if it is in a very passive way.

Bea is a huge question mark for me.
Poor bea has been sick, but this reminds me of another game (for the life of me, I can't remember, nor do I really want to look for/reveal in order not to risk my identity being more obvious :p ), but the last game I played with her, this is the same sort of behavior she exhibited when bad - not offering much solid opinion. It's always hard to vote bea, since she's just so friggin' nice. But I'm most compelled in that direction today, mostly because I'm tired and was thinking about voting her for these reasons earlier today, anyway.

3) Also this:
thellama73 wrote:
Prisoner 27385 wrote:Is there more to the Soneji case than his denouncement of meta-analysis? Because I can't vote for him if that's it.
There's a little more to it. I initially noticed Soneji for his avoidance of mentioning Macdougall, even when he was the central topic of discussion. The meta comment combined with that observation to form my suspicion, as I think baddies often forget to talk about one another.
Same reason for bea, same reason to look at Prisoner (except this is more compelling, as Macdougall is confirmed baddie. Avoidance. May also vote here.

Other thoughts:

1) Perhaps Golden keeps changing his vote in order to get discussion going on those people, rather than actually placing the vote? Since he appears to be silenced? I kinda wish I'd been around in real time to see his switches, but y'all are doing a good job of commenting when he moves, so...

Okay, actually, I keep seeing linki and want to post, and also I see votes. This is the first free moment I've had all day, so sorry for the delay! Gonna put the vote on Soneji at this time.
by Echo
Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:08 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach [Night 2]
Replies: 504
Views: 10862

Re: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach

Scotty wrote:I remember now! Boom posted something like, "I randomed LC so I voted him day 1 lol"
John coltrane, as you said, was a useless late vote for Mac. Could be a lazy bus. I could vote for either
Either of these would be a lazy vote :suspish:
juliets wrote:Sonja, Boomslang, Coltrane - I'm lumping all of these guys together because I see them much the same way. Low posters, not offering much. I already talked about Booms and my observation that his posts so far don't seem engaged with the game compared to past games he's been in and I wasn't wild about his randomized vote on a day when there was plenty to look at and vote on. Soneji from my memory also has few posts and has that one post about meta being a crutch in the heat of the Mac lynch - not a good look. And Coltrane also hasn't participated much and was the last voter for Mac, potentially piling on as a teammate. I could vote for any of these three at the moment and may place a pressure vote on one of them today depending on how things go.
This is a trend I'm seeing in my read (aside from SVS), and I'm only on the second page. Y'all, just because you can't remember what someone (namely, me) said in the last thread, doesn't mean they didn't make a post, or substantial contributions in the last thread. Low posting does not equal no contribution.

I may just be irritated now in general (it's been a long day), and may have to take a break earlier than I thought so I don't express that too much in the thread.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Coltrane has given no one any reason to trust him. I don't have a specific ping about him like I do against Soneji, but he definitely has work to do if he wants to stick around. I'd say the same for Donna Meagle, who appears to not be trying at all.
Thing is, I'm 99% confident I know who John Coltrane is, and he's been lynched recently for this exact kind of behavior, only to flip civilian.

I don't intend to defend him, I just wanted to say that.
Hmmm, I'd like to see if you are right :ponder: :p

Yeah, gonna take a break. Apologies.
by Echo
Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach [Night 2]
Replies: 504
Views: 10862

Re: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach

Prisoner 27385 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Remind me again what John coltrane has done in this game?
Spent a lot of time justifying a vote at the very end of the Macdougall bandwagon.
Wow. Really? Very nice of you to say :suspish:

I don't appreciate this assessment of my contributions. Although I haven't posted much, I've done more than this. I certainly did post more info/opinion than that, and more suspicions along with my Mac vote.

Back to my reading, with more to say as I go along.
by Echo
Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:46 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach [Night 2]
Replies: 504
Views: 10862

Re: 2016 Game of Champions - Beach

Sorry, guys - this is a super busy week, with the promise of an even busier (and fun!) weekend. But gonna catch up a bit tonight (and hopefully make some comments) and more reading/posting/voting tomorrow.

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