The Syndicate

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:16 pm I think I’m gonna vote for DrSloogy. The 2 Dog characterization of Sloonei is reasonable and we were all on the same scum team in Ancient Greece when we saw some similar kind of voting (it reminds one of us the most of Sloonei’s vote for Colin in it, actually, although the circumstances were not identical.)

This one. Don’t like it.

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:04 pm People have called us scum all game without substantiating it and it’s dumb. If you’re gonna try to lynch us come at us with a reason you peons

Major red flags here.

A colin/speed/epi/Simon team is making a lot of sense to me reading the iso. The most in which colin talks about his vote for slough I very much dislike. It doesn’t read like he’s talking himself into something, it reads like he’s hedging instead of giving a firm read. I’ll grab it and quote it.

I also note that lynching C & M and them being mafia doublevoter would townfirm Galactic Mac. Something to consider.

There’s nothing to the GM iso. Mac hasn’t played and Daisy’s busy posts have been on point with her town meta but it’s not hard to fake.

On both occasions that cuphead and mugman votes rimworld boyz, they were the first vote when another wagon had three or more.

They didn’t return when rimworld was a viable option.

I could see this as deliberate hiding of a double vote power. Something is ringing a bell with me here regarding epi in Night Vale. He may have had the same power there. Just noting this in case someone gets a look and I can’t.

The two who were at the wedding aren’t going to claim.

Most of those who did couldn’t be a doublevoter anyway. Because I know I’m not, in fact the only two are the only ones who could be. Which means if there’s any evidence either of them can’t be, we are in the ninja world.

I think a no lynch is a bad idea in any event, with so much absenteeism. We should make a call.

Fratyo... I’m willing to trust you on the back of the last end of day. It could be my funeral, but it felt genuine.

I also trust lunatella. That could mean we have a group of three.

I’m going to look at the other three closely.

I agree with the plan to claim. We are at MYLO.

A note - if we are in the ninja setup, it behooves scum to claim town doublevoter. So we can’t rely on it entirely. But it would give us a very solid basis on which to generate reads.

I’m vanilla town.

Yes, she is.

If you want evidence that I did not previously know this was what ninja is, check out what I called it on my role-madness matrix (Invisible Man). I've always used ninja/vig interchangeably.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:53 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:24 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:35 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:31 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:19 pm Btw, it isn't possible to vote no-lynch on this site right? Because we're 6 alive tomorrow (Mylo) confirmed in a setup without a doctor. So it would be better for us if we sleep tomorrow so Scum has to remove another person and we have better chances of hitting scum while 5 alive. But if we can't no-lynch except by not voting at all, then scum can always snipe last second, so it won't work

We might have a ninja so it’s a bad idea anyway

Do you know what a ninja is?

I thought a vigilante but are you implying I’m wrong?

Where I'm from it always meant "untrackable." Like you can carry out the kill without being tracked. Vigilantes are usually called vigilantes, and are usually not scum.

Dry flood is either playing dumb, or is not scum. Dunno what to tend toward. I feel like this is... kinda surprising ignorance, especially since this setup is common. Are ninjas not a usual thing around here?

OK. That makes sense as an interpretation of ninja. Where I was from vigilantes were called ninjas. And it's not entirely unusual to see a mafia one, although I admit it seemed imbalanced to me. If you're in world 4, what's the value of an untrackable shot? Just a decoy?

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:30 pm Fratyo why do you look so similar in fending off Golden as you did in fending off me in Courage

Noting that, what do you think of his declaration that he would have switched to rimworld to save himself if bad?

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:35 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:31 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:19 pm Btw, it isn't possible to vote no-lynch on this site right? Because we're 6 alive tomorrow (Mylo) confirmed in a setup without a doctor. So it would be better for us if we sleep tomorrow so Scum has to remove another person and we have better chances of hitting scum while 5 alive. But if we can't no-lynch except by not voting at all, then scum can always snipe last second, so it won't work

We might have a ninja so it’s a bad idea anyway

Do you know what a ninja is?

I thought a vigilante but are you implying I’m wrong?

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:19 pm Btw, it isn't possible to vote no-lynch on this site right? Because we're 6 alive tomorrow (Mylo) confirmed in a setup without a doctor. So it would be better for us if we sleep tomorrow so Scum has to remove another person and we have better chances of hitting scum while 5 alive. But if we can't no-lynch except by not voting at all, then scum can always snipe last second, so it won't work

We might have a ninja so it’s a bad idea anyway

Also I'm mad I lost track of time. It would have been better if I'd been back with 15 to go instead of 3.

Rimworld should have claimed.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:08 pm Golden, you need to get your head in the game if you're town. I'm never scum here

Maybe. I'll take your point under advisement.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:07 pm Just so you know, if i'm scum i always swap to Rimworld there to 100% live myself, but I didn't because I thought he was town (especially after he didn't vote me)

Those last few minutes didn't give anyone a clear shot at knowing what would save them.

Dammit. Rimworld would have made sense as the second. Now what makes sense?

Cuphead, possibly. Looking at set ups, it's not impossible there's a double voter in there. If it's the other way and there's a 1-shot ninja, we're screwed.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:04 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:01 pm Lol have no idea where Luna was at that time.

Fratyo and rimworld are the baddies I’m sure of it. Let’s hope we nabbed one.

golden has less interest in trying to read me based on meta than usual so please take note of that

I can't tell which head is which so it's sort of pointless.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:03 pm put pressure on speedchuck no matter what, of he's mafia and wins this one it's gonna be a big inconvenience for me

Lol... I think you mean 'only one of us can win this game and I need it to be me'.

OK, never mind, it's all the same thing either way.

It was? But I thought voting at 00 was fine just not 01? I definitely voted at 00.

Lol have no idea where Luna was at that time.

Fratyo and rimworld are the baddies I’m sure of it. Let’s hope we nabbed one.

Ok went back to frat just in time

Every possible scum is on the Luna vote. Who ever of you is town needs to get off NOW

Daisy and MP we need you. This was impossible without both of you.

Luna vote rimworld with me to save you

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:58 pm

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:57 pm WAIT. Lynching me is not a good idea.

is that a claim? Fast

I'm gonna try to CFD Mac if it is

WTF

Scum plot. Where is town?

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:09 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:06 pm If it's a genuine read on Daisy's posts, its wrong.

Not sure how to respond to this

linki: honestly i'd forgotten that, but reagrdless of that you pushed that he was scum, not ramses, so it's pretty irrelevant

Daisy's behaviour is on her town meta, those posts particularly. When she's pressured and busy and has to respond,t hose posts are very town. If anyone's behaviour is more concerning, it's Macs.

You are knotting yourself in knots. You said that my read on you is lacking analysis, like my TH read in the other game. It's not irrelevant, because my TH read wasn't lacking analysis, even if I was falsely pushing him as scum. Perhaps you did 'forget it', but you're the one who chose to use that as a reason to cast doubt on me.

Townies look for genuine patterns, they feel with their guts that something feels the same to them as it did another time. Your assessment of me in that moment lacks that emotional honesty. It could be honest, in the sense that you weren't town that game so had no reason to grab an emotional read on me.

But I don't think it is. Just looks like a reason to give others doubt about my read to me.

If you're bad, it sort of sucks that you got two bad cards in a row. If you're town and I'm wrong, I know part of it will be that I haven't seen your town game. But I'm feeling pretty good about it. Your pushes and votes all feel calculated to me, every single one.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:05 pm honestly i don't think your tunnel on me feels very genuine, reminds me slightly of your forced T.H push last game, even if not as intense. Are you really evaluating me?

Yeah, I'm very happy with my vote.

Fractal knows full well that I fully believed TH was Ramses.

If it's a genuine read on Daisy's posts, its wrong.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:52 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm Also I hate that ‘townslip’. If you’re town and you think there’s three baddies you’d be reminding people it’s MYLO already and that we can’t afford to make a mistake. There’d be greater urgency.

Did you confuse which gameday i made the mistake, or how would 7-3 be mylo?

Re the Luna thing: I really disagree with you there. I might be a little biased since everything looks so much more obvious-town when you're scum and know who the towns are like i was that game, but still i think there's been a pretty clear difference, even if she is town here.

Re Mac being a cop-out: So you have a townread there or..? Or would it look like a cop-out to you even if Mac is scum, just because it's an easy vote to make?

OK, that's fine then, re the slip.

I don't think there's anything to read Daisy or Mac bad on. I don't think you've really indicated anything that looks bad. Mac isn't engaged - there's a chance that means he's bad but I find it much more likely he would be disengaged as town than bad. Daisy is travelling (note MPs absence as well). It's just a bad call altogether.

What's more it's like you suspect others more but you are 'giving them a day' in favour of that vote.

The momentum of this game is somewhat hampered by ninja and boomslang's wedding, you can tell, what with at least 4 people going and another 2 hosting some of them on their travels. We're likely in for a couple of quiet phased.

Also I hate that ‘townslip’. If you’re town and you think there’s three baddies you’d be reminding people it’s MYLO already and that we can’t afford to make a mistake. There’d be greater urgency.

[VOTE: Fratyo] aubergine

I continue to think galactic Mac is a cop out vote.

I really dislike their read on lunatella. There’s plenty in that iso to read as town. It reeks of courage Luna.

I can’t help but feel that fratyo is bad. Especially since I think the baddies are likely two of them, rimworld and Colin.

So here’s the thing. I actually really disliked fratyos vote for rimworld boyz... that was even before the cfd. It felt like a safe bus because rimworld could still move to voting drsloogy. It came without justification. That vote alone felt bad. The cfd that took rimworld out of the discussion only added to that feeling. Nothing in fratyos motivations towards the end of that day made sense to me. It all felt nanufactured.

I wouldn’t vote MP1 or lunatella or Cup/mug.

MP is town Quintucky. Accept it and lynch the mafia.

Galactic Mac wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:11 am I have to admit I have not followed this game really at all since I said the thing about fucking spiders. Someone point at something to sink my teeth into and I'll try to do a thing with the finding bad guys and stuff

This looks like an admission of guilt to me.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:14 am My entire experience on this site is Donald Glover walking into the room with pizza boxes and everything is on fire

Welcome to this site. We like pizza, and we like to burn it.

Goodbye

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:04 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:02 pm Those three late votes on us were shady. Fratyo’s mistake about the scum total is shady. Look at those people.

MP is town. The rimworld boyz are town. I feel good about the dogs.

Sorry wilgy.

I stand by my vote. The galactic cfd was the shittiest idea I've ever seen

Although this is a really townie post

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:02 pm Those three late votes on us were shady. Fratyo’s mistake about the scum total is shady. Look at those people.

MP is town. The rimworld boyz are town. I feel good about the dogs.

Sorry wilgy.

There's nothing shady about stopping a potential save. I fear it may have been a save of Rimworld Boyz not you. I didn't deeply want to vote you, but I preferred that to sitting by and letting the CFD happen.

Fratyo looks bad to me. Lunatella also looks bad.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:54 pm @he Dry Flood

vote with us?

Golden here

Zero chance

Highly suspect Fractal for this move. CFDs are how we won Courage.

Voting Sloogy to avoid Galactic Mac lynch.

I most like the voters on sloog and Rimworld. Either can go in my book and I feel good about the votes because of who is on them.

I like Fratyo but Fratyo's vote is bad. Hey Fractal, you played with Golden as bad? Do you think he'd be a no show?

Meh, I'm okay leaving lunatella for another day. I'm not convinced though

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:51 pm I’m a bit underwhelmed by DrSloogy.

I’m super underwhelmed by The Dry Flood. More concerned than anything. It’s so bizarre for both of them to be inactive.

It's ok, we are also underwhelmed with ourselves

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:29 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:23 pm 2 Dogs, what do you mean by Luna looking sketchy as town? Do you think she looks less sketchy when scum? Or was this a specific way of sketchy you think she generally only looks when town?

Also, i think she was one of the most obvious and least sketchy people in all of the Courage game. It's only 1 game but still

actually that's sort of what I mean. In UPick, she was scum and her posts were all more pointed--served a purpose, slightly reserved with her words even. I knew something was off with her there.

In other games we've played with her as a civilian, she tends to be a little more loose in her thoughts and opinions. she makes posts that read scummy. she doesn't pay attention to what can be perceived as scummy, because she's town, so why would she? I think that post MP quotes is a classic example of misread Luna intentions. I understand what she was trying to get at. I don't see a scum Luna edging for that angle.

if i'm wrong, i'm gonna look so stupid. but it's a risk i'm willing to take.

Why is that post luna not nutella

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:14 pm

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:02 pm

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:39 am

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm - Rimworld Boyz
I'm vibing with Kyle. Kyle is one of the most tonally-centric players I've ever met in that he reads incredibly organically when he's town and not when he's scum. Specifically if I read at least half of the posts in Kyle's ISO and can hear Kyle thinking out loud in a Vocaroo type setting, that means he's almost certainly town. Scum!Kyle can't quite replicate the way town!Kyle thinks.

Subject to change. Other input desired.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm i have a problem with that? up until now neither of us have posted anything that would require genuine-ness or the faking there-of. which posts seemed particularly genuine to you?

M Plus 1

For Rimworld Boyz to question M Plus 1's read of their genuineness really makes them look town. If they were scum they would have just rolled with it. Extra cred looks good. But what does this say about M Plus 1?

What do you think it says about me?

I don’t like the open-ended question at all.

[VOTE: lunatella] aubergine

lol...

now people will think i just sheeped this. i actually just read this. villapoint for mindmeld

The M Plus 1 post also passed me by. The point was less clear.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:11 pm

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:39 am

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm - Rimworld Boyz
I'm vibing with Kyle. Kyle is one of the most tonally-centric players I've ever met in that he reads incredibly organically when he's town and not when he's scum. Specifically if I read at least half of the posts in Kyle's ISO and can hear Kyle thinking out loud in a Vocaroo type setting, that means he's almost certainly town. Scum!Kyle can't quite replicate the way town!Kyle thinks.

Subject to change. Other input desired.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm i have a problem with that? up until now neither of us have posted anything that would require genuine-ness or the faking there-of. which posts seemed particularly genuine to you?

M Plus 1

For Rimworld Boyz to question M Plus 1's read of their genuineness really makes them look town. If they were scum they would have just rolled with it. Extra cred looks good. But what does this say about M Plus 1?

Nothing? This part seems like it might've been added on just to sound thoughtful. How would Rimworldz looking town ever mean something for M1's alignment?

Townie post from Fratyo. Making a valid point about Lunatella.

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:10 pm

Cuphead and Mugman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:03 pm Well…

Cuphead and his pal Mugman
Have all their reading done
The two concur
They must confer
A take on M Plus 1

M Plus 1!

He came upon things acting like
They were a hydrant red
And now all of this
Smells of doggy piss

So…

No one should make him dead!

Is piss good?

When describing M Plus 1 - surprisingly, yes.