I mean, no townfirmed, but one clear candidate for killing when no-one has a bad read on me, but people have a bad read on everyone else, right?Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:03 pmbut we have no townfirmed? Sure i got a strong townread on you, but if you're somehow scum this nolynch is absolutely crucial. You gotta be able to see it from that perspective, no?The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:02 pm If Colin is town his ongoing suspicion of you stated was frankly a big misjudgement. The last thing any of us needed to do in this phase was leave only one person open without suspicion. For a no lynch to work at final 4, you have to have multiple or zero candidates that appear townfirmed. The extra phase is just pointless.
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- Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:06 pm
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- Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:05 pm
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YeahFratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:02 pmpoint taken that i can see the reasoning as town aswell, but if you're mafia (low likelyhood but still) you definetly wouldn't wanna be in a f3 with people wondering why you didn't dieThe Dry Flood wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:01 pmYou should be able to see why I don't want to no lynch no matter what.
The extra phase will be meaningless.
I did expect you'd come in with no lynch and I'm ok with that. I think bowing out in the spirit of marmot is the right thing to do.
Please don't fuck this up.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:03 pm
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Nevertheless, for those who are alive in the next phase, heed my words. I've put quite a bit of work in to test both CS and GM socks as much as was possible in the circumstances.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:02 pm
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If Colin is town his ongoing suspicion of you stated was frankly a big misjudgement. The last thing any of us needed to do in this phase was leave only one person open without suspicion. For a no lynch to work at final 4, you have to have multiple or zero candidates that appear townfirmed. The extra phase is just pointless.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:01 pm
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- Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:01 pm
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You should be able to see why I don't want to no lynch no matter what.
The extra phase will be meaningless.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:58 pm
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Yes I recognise this is possibly a bad call. But I think the mafia just kill me tonight which for me means the extra phase is pointless... it would be better if no-one was without suspicion, but I am basically without suspicion at this point.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:57 pm
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I have to remember that Marmot and I have shared this sock.
He might not be here right now, but I'm going to play in his spirit.
[VOTE: Galactic Mac] aubergine
He might not be here right now, but I'm going to play in his spirit.
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[VOTE: Galactic Mac] aubergine
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:56 pm
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In fact I'd go so far as to say that until this point those people have ALL been town, but I'm very wary that someone who is in the know could one day use that against me.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:55 pm
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Current thinking:
Colinisspeed's frustration with me seemed not only real, but also town. I don't like the 'if town' stuff much, but I've had some history with people telling me they are going to be so smug when I mislynch them. I'm not sure speed has been party to that history. I'm sure Colin hasn't. Those people are usually town. There are many townies who feel I'm tunnelling them so hard that they are just desperate to prove me wrong and get the satisfaction from that.
I'm still wary of it being a false appeal though.
Galactic Mac on the other hand... Mac's entry into the thread was promising in that it suggested he might engage and provide content. But then he just... didn't. If Speed/colin won this game, they'd deserve it. If Galactic Mac was bad and won, we'd kick ourselves.
Colinisspeed's frustration with me seemed not only real, but also town. I don't like the 'if town' stuff much, but I've had some history with people telling me they are going to be so smug when I mislynch them. I'm not sure speed has been party to that history. I'm sure Colin hasn't. Those people are usually town. There are many townies who feel I'm tunnelling them so hard that they are just desperate to prove me wrong and get the satisfaction from that.
I'm still wary of it being a false appeal though.
Galactic Mac on the other hand... Mac's entry into the thread was promising in that it suggested he might engage and provide content. But then he just... didn't. If Speed/colin won this game, they'd deserve it. If Galactic Mac was bad and won, we'd kick ourselves.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:51 pm
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Boy, I'm so tempted to CFD this.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:30 pm
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I'm off to a meeting so probably too late to change that idea now anyway. But wouldn't mind a decent chat in the night phase today.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:29 pm
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But Fratyo is hardly town'firmed'.
However, I provided you three very clear points that you've only responded to one of so far. Why are you asking me again when you haven't engaged fully in that to begin with?
[mention]Fratyo[/mention] [mention]Galactic Mac[/mention] haven't heard from either of you in this phase. What are you thinking? Is no vote the wrong move for you?
However, I provided you three very clear points that you've only responded to one of so far. Why are you asking me again when you haven't engaged fully in that to begin with?
[mention]Fratyo[/mention] [mention]Galactic Mac[/mention] haven't heard from either of you in this phase. What are you thinking? Is no vote the wrong move for you?
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:27 pm
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Explain why you don't like that post.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:18 pmI have no idea where either side of this conversation is coming from but I don't like it.Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:37 pmIsn't the mafia forced to pick a target?Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:53 am I can almost guarantee no one will die if we no lynch
we'd be prolonging things to solve, sure. but that also leaves room for doubt and wrong ideas to form.
but if more time is legitimately needed, by all means no lynch. mafia has the advantage in 4 man lynch
Dry Flood, I am unable to access this thread easily. Explain, please, in one magnificent post, how Frayo is townfirmed.
I'm sort of nearly regretting a no lynch right now. I think I'll probably just die anyway, I'm the only one that no one seems to suspect.
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:24 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 4]
I am Jack's smirking revenge.
- Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:54 pm
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[VOTE:
No Lynch] aubergine
For now at least, but it seems like a good idea for today.
For now at least, but it seems like a good idea for today.
- Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:01 am
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Well Colinisspeed is the only one that didn't vote for cuphead lol. So it's sort of funny you are saying 'look at those who voted cuphead' while calling out the only one that didn't.
I like that Mac post though. Please do get your head in the game. I'm interested to see what you come up with.
I like that Mac post though. Please do get your head in the game. I'm interested to see what you come up with.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:50 pm
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So you think colinistown?Galactic Mac wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:49 pm Yeah I mean of course there are going to be several non baddies who voted for the guy I am merely pointing out that the actual voting of the bad guy or pushing in the direction of that lynch does nothing to move me to civ reading them as ColinisSpeed was trying to angle towards.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:45 pm
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I hate mylo/lylo paranoia.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:43 pm
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Looks at Colin's post - makes a lot of sense
Looks at Mac's post - ....
Mac, you realise you voted for Team Cupman, right?
Looks at Mac's post - ....
Mac, you realise you voted for Team Cupman, right?
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:17 pm
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Removing flames from feet for a bit now Colin and Speed. I want to hear what Galactic Mac has to say for themselves.
If it's a Christmas Miracle someone around here must be the Virgin Mary and it sure as heck aint me.
If it's a Christmas Miracle someone around here must be the Virgin Mary and it sure as heck aint me.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:09 pm
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This is interesting. Looking at this post after you said that, the second paragraph also pings me. If I've fought hard in the wrong direction as town, my first post is normally some kind of mea culpa and acknowledging I look bad in all of this. Colinisspeed is already ready with a proactive defense, within 3 minutes of the lynch post. I don't love that.Lunatella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:55 pmlooks almost like defeat. Scum almost had this in the bag, but lynching one of them has set them back.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:03 pm Well, I genuinely thought that was it, so good going.
I guarantee the scumteam is going to try to get us killed next lynch by painting our actions as a “defense,” but don’t listen to it. Ask yourself if that’s really in line with Colin or Speed’s scum meta.
I will be attempting an analysis of Cuphead and Mugman in the night, but I fear we’re going to have a hard time figuring out where to proceed.
I'll just go ahead and say it. This is Luna here, and I'm pretty sure Speedchuck is scum. He personally has not suspected me all game, and when he's scum he doesn't go after me. I have not seen anything this whole game to convince me he's town.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:08 pm
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I don't. Because it ignored both points 2 and 3.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:00 pmPoint 1 is exactly what Fractal did as scum in Courage. This, in addition to other 1:1 similarities to his game there, as well as some tone similarities to sprit’s game in Retro, AND my partner’s assurances that I’m not crazy, are what have led to suspect Fratyo. It’s possible there are plenty of reasons to see him as town that I’ve somehow missed and I’ll try to review the thread, but I’m pretty busy the next couple days, so I can’t guarantee anything.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:30 pm "Reevaluation of the thread? Nah, I prefer the reads I've got."
of course you're frustrated and find me insufferable. That's the general goal, put the fire to your feet and see what happens. I don't think you've come out the other side looking great right now.
When you get back, you should try to explain why you think Fratyo was, if bad:
1) So desperate to start a CFD on day one and risk the equilibrium of a settled thread when the leading wagons were both town.
2) Unwilling to save himself by jumping to another wagon that could have more easily guaranteed his safety; and
3) Willing to jump so early on the Cupman train when there wasn't honestly a huge amount to commend that choice other than 'trust'
What I see in your game is a complete absence of trying to weigh up any of the actions of people that would be townleaning. It feels like you are focusing solely on the suspicious and avoiding the opposite. This is not something I'm used to seeing from either speed or colin.
As far as not assigning town credit — it’s because this game is shady as hell. Everybody looks mostly null or conceivably bad because almost nothing substantial has happened until right now and it’s hard to know who’s even talking in most posts. I also have a tendency of assigning town cred too easily that would have lost U-Pick and pretty much sealed Courage as a defeat so I’m making a semi-conscious effort to be more discerning. If you don’t like that then![]()
Point 1 is a decent point, but I think it misses how active the role of both of your heads was in that CFD. In that case he fostered your paranoia as you discussed wanting to go another way, and voted third after each of you did, creating consensus. He didn't suggest a CFD and run in, he carefully laid the planks for its success.
Here he just went 'who's in for a CFD' and went for it without any of that.
I found the same thing suspicious early, but when I looked into it there was a clear distinction in styles.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:45 pm
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It's ok, we got em!Lunatella wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:43 pmHi, yes we are here.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:39 pm This came together fast. @lunatella @fratyo are you both still out there?
But it's worth getting your brain on the colinspeed vs GM quandary. Fresh eyes are good eyes.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:42 pm
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People give me far too much credit sometimes. But also, I don't fake shit. My entire ethos is to lie as little as possible when bad. The reason I bussed LC in that game? Because I didn't believe I could believably lie about the fact nutella seemed extremely town to me. I've never done a meaningless, irrelevant lie like a fake townslip in my life.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:37 pm For the record, I respect Golden enough for him to fake townships.
Lunatella' identical slip was more convincing
A townslip is almost always a townslip. This I learned in the Mafia Champs.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:38 pm
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ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:49 pmYour smugness is going to make you the driving factor in the town loss.
ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:58 pmYou will lose the game because you can't fathom someone feeling panic about lynching a mostly inactive gag account in Kyle based on faulty cases. What the hell even.
And even if it makes me look stupid, I'll throw your assurance back in your face if you are town, let you feel a little of the frustration you're giving me right now. I'll savor it.
ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:05 pm If you really can’t imagine a universe in which a town-Colin-speed are hesitant to trust Golden
Not sure what to make of all of this one way or the other right now... just pointing out there's a lot of emphasis on how townie they are, including two posts where they talk about the 'world in which they are town' by using the word 'if'.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:09 pm Why would I stop defending myself if:
A) I know I’m town
I'm not fully firm on whether this looks bad or good in my mind yet.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:33 pm
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On what basis did you come to that underlined conclusion before the lynch?ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:05 pm Dry Flood, why is Fratyo town?
Since we are seemingly not in a doublevoter world, is there any reason to vote C&M over Galactic Mac?
linki: hi other head
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:30 pm
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Oh, each of those points was his behaviour on each of the three days, that wasn't entirely clear.
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"Reevaluation of the thread? Nah, I prefer the reads I've got."
of course you're frustrated and find me insufferable. That's the general goal, put the fire to your feet and see what happens. I don't think you've come out the other side looking great right now.
When you get back, you should try to explain why you think Fratyo was, if bad:
1) So desperate to start a CFD on day one and risk the equilibrium of a settled thread when the leading wagons were both town.
2) Unwilling to save himself by jumping to another wagon that could have more easily guaranteed his safety; and
3) Willing to jump so early on the Cupman train when there wasn't honestly a huge amount to commend that choice other than 'trust'
What I see in your game is a complete absence of trying to weigh up any of the actions of people that would be townleaning. It feels like you are focusing solely on the suspicious and avoiding the opposite. This is not something I'm used to seeing from either speed or colin.
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When you get back, you should try to explain why you think Fratyo was, if bad:
1) So desperate to start a CFD on day one and risk the equilibrium of a settled thread when the leading wagons were both town.
2) Unwilling to save himself by jumping to another wagon that could have more easily guaranteed his safety; and
3) Willing to jump so early on the Cupman train when there wasn't honestly a huge amount to commend that choice other than 'trust'
What I see in your game is a complete absence of trying to weigh up any of the actions of people that would be townleaning. It feels like you are focusing solely on the suspicious and avoiding the opposite. This is not something I'm used to seeing from either speed or colin.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:07 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
There's a whole lot of false equivalence going on here constantly.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:05 pmThe outcome of the lynch wasn’t something known to us beforehand, so that’s not going to have an effect on reads up until then.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pmWhy did I go after the mafia power role?ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pmTo your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pmQuite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.
This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.
Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.
My game is so bold faced town that there couldn't be any doubt now, yet you're trying to rationalise away your doubts, or still harbouring that it could be a bus. It just isn't believable. Both of you are far more willing to trust me when I'm looking this town and you're town.
I have nothing I can say in response to the rest of this though. If you really can’t imagine a universe in which a town-Colin-speed are hesitant to trust Golden, then ... how much mafia have you played?
You're saying this stuff as though it happened in a vacuum.
You caught me in two separate townslips. You pursued one to as full a conclusion as it was possible to get. And yet it appeared to have no impact whatsoever on your way of thinking about me. I don't buy that as authentic, no matter how much you might not trust me in a vacuum.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:01 pm
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If you're town you should stop trying to defend yourself against me and start reevaluating the game entirely.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:59 pmCan you quote the post you’re referring to? I think the bulk of your beef in this post is from speed, but I’m not entirely sure what you refer to as worrying.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pmYou literally tole me why my Cupman/GM can't be a team theory was wrong, and then were worried about my affiliation. This makes zero sense.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pmTo your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pmQuite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.
This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.
Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:58 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Night 3]
And stop with the 'you'll cost the town the game' nonsense when the town would already have lost if they'd listened to you.
Right now there's just one thing to do and that's identify Cupman's partner.
It's either you or Galactic Mac. I'm hoping Daisy has time to show up and play tomorrow so we have something to evaluate.
Right now there's just one thing to do and that's identify Cupman's partner.
It's either you or Galactic Mac. I'm hoping Daisy has time to show up and play tomorrow so we have something to evaluate.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pm
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You literally tole me why my Cupman/GM can't be a team theory was wrong, and then were worried about my affiliation. This makes zero sense.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pmTo your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pmQuite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.
This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.
Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.
What's the baddie thinking there?
1) We're in the world of the doublevoters and I'm lying about what I know to... eliminate a very viable team makeup I could be selling when I haven't got great reads on either? or
2) We're in the ninja world, so I could be genuinely mistaken about how doublevoter functions but then I've lied about my mistaken understanding of how a ninja works... and I'm still just eliminating a viable team makeup I could be selling.
You're also the one that corrected me about the ninja, but you seem to have forgotten that. You went through a full conversation with me and nutella to test whether that was a genuine townslip. Nutella confirmed that my understanding of ninja is based on our background. So to hit a second example of the same thing and still to have worries? That's unnatural.
There's so many things in this game which point to me being town:
Why have I protected Galactic Mac?
Why did I make an about face on Fratyo?
Why did I go after the mafia power role?
My game is so bold faced town that there couldn't be any doubt now, yet you're trying to rationalise away your doubts, or still harbouring that it could be a bus. It just isn't believable. Both of you are far more willing to trust me when I'm looking this town and you're town.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
You were unified because casting doubt on his motives after his behaviour in the last game was the apparent best route to a win. You left me alive because you believed I would follow you down the Fratyo route and others would follow me. This view of what was going on in your mind is not difficult for me to reach, I feel it in my bones. It's how I'd be thinking if I were bad.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:47 pmThis is not an accurate characterization of our actions. Speed and I had offered reads and voiced opinions in different directions (some things you point out are him, some me) but we were pretty unified behind the Fratyo lynch.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:43 pmEverything you are doing looks bad and is absolutely in line with your scum meta.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:03 pm Well, I genuinely thought that was it, so good going.
I guarantee the scumteam is going to try to get us killed next lynch by painting our actions as a “defense,” but don’t listen to it. Ask yourself if that’s really in line with Colin or Speed’s scum meta.
I will be attempting an analysis of Cuphead and Mugman in the night, but I fear we’re going to have a hard time figuring out where to proceed.
Everything lunatella and Daisy are doing looks like their town selves.
Fratyo's defence about end of day two is compelling and accurate. What's more, he was busy accepting my point about the doublevoters while you were the one who pointed out it was wrong. In my book, that lends me to thinking he was as townslippy as I was.
Your end of day was entirely about shifting the target ANYWHERE else. You called out GM. You threw shade at fratyo. You threw shade at me.
Fratyo and I actually made that lynch happen out of nothing. You spent your time throwing shade at it in any way possible all while calling the case 'believable'.
Anything but see Cup & Mug lynched. Anything at all.
You absolutely should 100% be lynched tomorrow.
Also, don't mistype it as Fartyo. It's really easy to do. Just a warning.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Quite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.
This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.
Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:45 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Come at me bro.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:54 pmIs it not possible that your understanding of the game is incorrect because it’s not an understanding, but rather, a deliberate ploy? Your latest posts make me feel more that you are town if this is LYLO but I really fail to understand some things here.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:41 pmIt's worrisome how much you are deliberately ignoring strong evidence of towniness all over the show.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:17 pmIt's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.
I cannot possibly believe that in the space of a couple of minutes you both correct my understanding of the game role again and are still worried about me. There is huge cognitive dissonance there.
You should have killed me before I rumbled you. MP was a bad choice.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:43 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Everything you are doing looks bad and is absolutely in line with your scum meta.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:03 pm Well, I genuinely thought that was it, so good going.
I guarantee the scumteam is going to try to get us killed next lynch by painting our actions as a “defense,” but don’t listen to it. Ask yourself if that’s really in line with Colin or Speed’s scum meta.
I will be attempting an analysis of Cuphead and Mugman in the night, but I fear we’re going to have a hard time figuring out where to proceed.
Everything lunatella and Daisy are doing looks like their town selves.
Fratyo's defence about end of day two is compelling and accurate. What's more, he was busy accepting my point about the doublevoters while you were the one who pointed out it was wrong. In my book, that lends me to thinking he was as townslippy as I was.
Your end of day was entirely about shifting the target ANYWHERE else. You called out GM. You threw shade at fratyo. You threw shade at me.
Fratyo and I actually made that lynch happen out of nothing. You spent your time throwing shade at it in any way possible all while calling the case 'believable'.
Anything but see Cup & Mug lynched. Anything at all.
You absolutely should 100% be lynched tomorrow.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:38 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Night 3]
Quite convinced Colin is the other baddie. Good job everyone.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:44 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Yeah, I'm feeling more and more comfortable with this.
Those daisy posts once again read to me as town daisy.
Colinisspeed, on the other hand, is doing everything possible to discredit both fratyo and I.
Colin is my preferred vote at this point but alas, I must go to a meeting and miss EOD. I'd CFD there. But Cupman is his most likely teammate, even still.
Those daisy posts once again read to me as town daisy.
Colinisspeed, on the other hand, is doing everything possible to discredit both fratyo and I.
And this same kind of tense as the sloogy vote. Leaning towards the case as believable. What does that even mean?ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:10 pm I am personally leaning toward believable to the case on Cupheads (dunno about my other head) but notice that they did not try to vote for somebody else out of self-preservation yet.
Colin is my preferred vote at this point but alas, I must go to a meeting and miss EOD. I'd CFD there. But Cupman is his most likely teammate, even still.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:42 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Oops [mention]lunatella[/mention], [mention]fratyo[/mention]
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:41 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
It's worrisome how much you are deliberately ignoring strong evidence of towniness all over the show.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:17 pmIt's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.
I cannot possibly believe that in the space of a couple of minutes you both correct my understanding of the game role again and are still worried about me. There is huge cognitive dissonance there.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:39 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
This came together fast. @lunatella @fratyo are you both still out there?
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:39 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
There is a 0% chance Fratyo is bad at this point. The searching has been earnest. I hate the idea that 'you're happy with any of these three because you aren't hunting' when there's two baddies our there.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:38 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Oooh, you're right.ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:13 pm1-shot doublevote! It's completely optional, and doesn't need to be hidden. This case is built on false info.The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:59 pm I could see this as deliberate hiding of a double vote power. Something is ringing a bell with me here regarding epi in Night Vale. He may have had the same power there. Just noting this in case someone gets a look and I can’t.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:05 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Claim!Galactic Mac wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:49 pm Dude I’m so out of it here, lol. So the best course is to vote someone we think might be the mafia double voter I get that, how did you settle on Cupguys? I’m sorry for nagging you with questions, but I appreciate not having to go dig to understand what’s happening.
You know what fuck it, I trust you guys know wtf you’re doing and I can’t stand staring at the screen longer.
[VOTE: Cupguys] aubergine
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:39 pm
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- Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:30 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
Also I still don’t like macs lack of effort, so I’m townreading based on Daisy’s limited content. A CS/GM bad team is quite feasible.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:29 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
There is risk because of the very limited pool of posts.Fratyo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:20 pmIf we assume Lunatella is 100% confirmed town, how big is the risk you're wrong on Daisy in that world?The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:15 pmI do. I’m not sure which head as which, but I feel like Luna and nutella actually have similar styles, I get town from all of it, so for me that’s a decent sign. I mean, if the baddies are Luna/GM I’m completely off base, and day one raises the spectre of that possibility, but I think I proven decent at reading each of daisy and Nutella over time and I think I’m just beginning to get a handle on Luna, and the fact I get no bad vibes from any of them would be a very good coordinated blindside of my meta reads of them.
Also, i'm gonna follow you on whereever you go today between Colin/Galactic/Cuphead, but this is important for me to know in case we live another phase and you're dead or something
Neither Colin nor cuphead followed you GM cfd so either are compatible teammates.
Thinking about it that way...
C&M and GM are compatible only in a ninja world. In a doublevoter world, they are not.
Colin is compatible with both in any world.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:15 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
I do. I’m not sure which head as which, but I feel like Luna and nutella actually have similar styles, I get town from all of it, so for me that’s a decent sign. I mean, if the baddies are Luna/GM I’m completely off base, and day one raises the spectre of that possibility, but I think I proven decent at reading each of daisy and Nutella over time and I think I’m just beginning to get a handle on Luna, and the fact I get no bad vibes from any of them would be a very good coordinated blindside of my meta reads of them.
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:09 pm
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Re: Two-Headed Monster Mafia [Day 3]
[VOTE:
Cupman and mughead] aubergine
I have a theory of the game right now and colinisspeed can’t be the doublevoter, so I’d rather take out the one that can be.
I have a theory of the game right now and colinisspeed can’t be the doublevoter, so I’d rather take out the one that can be.