The Syndicate

I am not here in a way that I can interact much. I would say that its a fair point that as IAWY flipped scum, it wouldn't make sense for a mafia Sloonei to switch from Frog to his teammate. There was a lot of vote switching near the end though, some of which were not counted as they weren't made in...

Soneji, since you're here, I want to get some live 1-1 about the Day 1 Vote. Gonna try and get a timeline vote count done, but what do you think about the Sloonei (Matt) points I stated till now?

Okay, first up, why are you voting Matt? Sloonei dropped his vote off of Frog which resulted in Frog and IAWY tied at Day 1 end. Bussing is one thing but this makes absolutely no sense. He had been stating Frog as his scum-read throughout. Why jump off and jeopardise your own teammate (IAWY)? In fa...

Now we're looking at the only possible scenarios of F, 1, and 4. Based on last night's kill, here are the possible setups. Set A 1x Town Jailkeeper 1x 1-Shot Bulletproof Town 1x Town Innocent Child 10x Vanilla Town 1x Mafia Roleblocker 1x Mafia 1-Shot Vigilante 2x Vanilla Mafia Goon Set C 1x Doctor...

This is the post, by the way. If someone else wants to go a couple pages back and look through the votes themselves.

And I have to bring this up.

Marco wrote:If IAWY flips scum, wouldn't look good for Golden.

I'm forgetting what exactly led me to say that, it was something to do with the exact vote switch pattern. I'll try to go back and create a vote timeline to see if there was actually some merit in what I said.

Okay, first up, why are you voting Matt?

Sloonei dropped his vote off of Frog which resulted in Frog and IAWY tied at Day 1 end. Bussing is one thing but this makes absolutely no sense. He had been stating Frog as his scum-read throughout. Why jump off and jeopardise your own teammate (IAWY)?

Regardless, why not just answer the question? You might convince me to vote for him. I mean, I think your point that we don't get a lot from Wilgy if he flips town is completely fair and true. I can't think of anything. I just don't know that we get a lot from IAWY flipping town either. I just don'...

oh and one more point agaisnt IWAY he voted for Wilgy and I didn't like that vote or the reasoning for it. I also don't like how Matt jumped from the MM wagon onto that. I could see a MAtt/MM team. Current mafia team thoughts. Ika MM Matt ??? Maybe IWAY IF IWAY is mafia IWAY MM/Matt Ika Zebra/matt ...

Regardless, why not just answer the question? You might convince me to vote for him. I mean, I think your point that we don't get a lot from Wilgy if he flips town is completely fair and true. I can't think of anything. I just don't know that we get a lot from IAWY flipping town either. I just don'...

I mean just from an isolated stand, IAWY has more info attached to him than Wilgy going by just their engagement in the game. Then you have others constantly telling us he's very random.

If Wilgy is lynched and flips town, what leads are we looking at? I feel like his flip will give us the least information. You seem focussed very much on the information we get 'if someone flips town'. Yesterday, it was about it being three vs two. This time, if its a two way battle between IAWY an...

If Wilgy is lynched and flips town, what leads are we looking at? I feel like his flip will give us the least information.

Wow, the MM wagon just disappeared.

VOTE INAWORDYES

I want to test my initial suspicions from day 1. It'll be hard to convince me to vote for anyone but MM OR IAWY.

@MP, I'm not planning on voting golden this phase, but I do want your thoughts on that golden post. You can do so next phase as per your convenience. Also, how long before phase ends. At this point, I'm back to my lynch candidates of yesterday, IAWY and MM. Feelings on Wilgy generally? He's been at...

@MP, I'm not planning on voting golden this phase, but I do want your thoughts on that golden post. You can do so next phase as per your convenience.

Also, how long before phase ends. At this point, I'm back to my lynch candidates of yesterday, IAWY and MM.

It should be noted that zexy has not really been engaging in the game since after the first half of day 1. I'm still waiting on those ISO reads he promised around 72 hours ago. And yet I was a leading lynch candidate yesterday for not being around the first half of Day 1 and engaging the second hal...

I've been suspecting zexy since day 1. He never even answered me how my posts were "scum motivated" "one liners" with "no thought behind them" just a few hours after leaning town on me.

Stop it, you're hurting my town read of Zexy. I may have done something else stupid as well, but I don't care cause yolo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't understand why people have him as a townread in general. He was active at the start, did some questioning, but not many conclusive thoughts. All null imo. And ...

It should be noted that zexy has not really been engaging in the game since after the first half of day 1. I'm still waiting on those ISO reads he promised around 72 hours ago.

EBWOP: "making an argument"

@MM, I clearly remember thinking it was a mafia kill when I made the post you quoted. Just by reading it in isolation, you can see that I was meaning an argument why it could've been a vig kill. Yes, I did think it was a vig kill for a second when I read the write up but I don't think I posted anyth...

For those of you who like to talk about scum-slips, town-slips, and fake town-slips, let's talk about this one. Also, I can imagine Vigilante taking out Epignosis. While the Frog voters all had their own reasons, it definitely felt like Epignosis' vote was what resulted in the CFD. That along with ...

@golden, there is a misunderstanding there. I never meant that one style is preferable to another. Your style works and I have nothing against it. What I meant by the "mistake" comment had nothing to do with play style. You gained insight and that's that. What I just meant was you were wro...

What're the thoughts on golden's reveal that he noticed MM hinting MP was PR day 1. And he scum read MM even though scum didn't attack MP last night. Golden acknowledged that all the events relevant to this topic happened on Day 2 . If he is scum, he couldn't have gone into Night 1 with this knowle...

By the way, I've already given my bare bones thoughts on you, MP, and Soneji. If you're looking for something extensive, then you'll have to wait till next dayphase. As I won't be home until around 10 hours from now and posting from phone is extremely cumbersome.

What're the thoughts on golden's reveal that he noticed MM hinting MP was PR day 1. And he scum read MM even though scum didn't attack MP last night. Golden acknowledged that all the events relevant to this topic happened on Day 2 . If he is scum, he couldn't have gone into Night 1 with this knowle...

What're the thoughts on golden's reveal that he noticed MM hinting MP was PR day 1. And he scum read MM even though scum didn't attack MP last night.

hey golden, why are you misrepresenting silvers stances? she never voted sonji becasue he didnt post anythign yet. she will go after low content lurkers day1 but not a non-poster, there is a distinct diffrence in that. not only that but she has fully explained how she thinks MPs interactions, case,...

If you want to take me to task for a mistake - Frog was the mistake. Not Silverwolf. And I know you're no scrub yourself. But, you know, you won't catch any implication from me that you are anything less than stellar. I think everyone in this game that I know or who I've come to know in playing thi...

How is it irrelevant? A mistake is when you make an error. And you made an error in judging SilverWolf's post. No I didn't. It got me a town read. There's a much higher chance I ended up scum reading her without it, thanks to her tunneling on MP, if I hadn't engaged with her over that original vote...

Silver never really seriously suspected me, at least I didn't feel so. I can tell the difference between someone who seems fixated on me and someone who just seems to be having a nibble at me. Also, don't forget that when I was arguing with zebra I had three votes and noone else had more than one. ...

I think it's a good thing that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Regardless of your alignment here, you'll be less likely to make a similar "mistake" in the future. Her vote looked very innocent to me. And I wasn't the only one, either. Placing a vote on someone as a "Hey, how's i...

In respect of zebra - I've experienced her tunneling on me when I'm town before, and from that experience I suspect that absolutely nothing I say can change her mind. When she is determined she is right that's that. So, I guess I could have abandoned it and let it go, but I just don't let it go wit...

Frog read - since when is 'mild town read' the same as 'such a high town read'? It's literally the bottom possible town read. I assumed the hierarchy was there for a reason. I have no problem taking credit for Frog's lynch. I think that is an accurate read. As for not engaging with him... I don't t...

Lets call that... Something for tomorrow :beer: time for me to sleep. But thanks for doing it. That's fair. :) I will start by answering your first question, though, on the silverwolf thing. You've misunderstood that 'no u' paragraph in the same way she did. My point is to explain that there was no...

@Golden , Just a disclaimer, I know some of the confusion can be attributed to lack of familiarity between us and culture differences between our home boards. So, I'm hoping that others, and you, can give me more insight once I just lay everything out. SILVERWOLF INTERACTION Your argument with Silv...

Marco, if not zebra, who were you hoping made such a comment in the thread? Why would I be hoping for someone specific to make that comment? I knew Zebra's stand already, which is why I said I was hoping for someone else who said it. The way I understood it, you weren't aware zebra had said such a ...

Marco, if not zebra, who were you hoping made such a comment in the thread? Why would I be hoping for someone specific to make that comment? I knew Zebra's stand already, which is why I said I was hoping for someone else who said it. The way I understood it, you weren't aware zebra had said such a ...

Matt wrote:MM - I've read a few pages, why does Golden want to hurt me?

I'd say MM wants to hurt you just as much if not more than Golden.

I became suspicious of MP for TMI, and it wasn't until MM pointed out TMI doesn't exclusively mean scum that it even occurred to me that MP could be PR. Also why I just completely disengaged with MP on that front without saying anything.

IAWY wagon started after MM tried to start a wagon on Sloonei. MP and Silver were the ones who started it IIRC. I started it with silver. Obviously you don't have my perspective on it, but I know both silver and I are town, so that tells me nothing at all. Not sure I'm getting your point. What I'm ...

Well, clearly sig didn't. :shrug: MM, your VT whats the first thing you would do in reading a matrix setup? your a PR in ths matrix setup, what would you read first? do you get what im saying? unless sig is a PR that doesnt allow a town vig to exist, he should of known that it could be town or scum...

Marco, if not zebra, who were you hoping made such a comment in the thread? Why would I be hoping for someone specific to make that comment? I knew Zebra's stand already, which is why I said I was hoping for someone else who said it. The way I understood it, you weren't aware zebra had said such a ...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Marco, if not zebra, who were you hoping made such a comment in the thread?

Why would I be hoping for someone specific to make that comment? I knew Zebra's stand already, which is why I said I was hoping for someone else who said it.

1. Yes, he was meta-gaming throughout the latter half. In my experience, it's best to not lynch such players Day 1. This is why I can understand Sloonei taking his vote off Frog. Regardless of Frog's alignment, it was guaranteed that he'd interact with people a lot and that would give us a lot of r...

MetalMarsh89 , you scum-read Golden, correct? And Golden , you scum-read MM, right? Correct. I have a light scum-read on Golden. I don't have anything to say to your suggestion that we are distancing and mafia teammates. It's not the first time I've heard it today, nor do I expect it to be the last...

1) I did feel like it was an 'act' (not the being drunk thing, but just his whole demeanour). I have expressed this before in different ways, but I'll do my best in expressing it in a new way. I felt like he was trying to dominate the town direction and push it in the direction he wanted, and to me...

I don't think he was very eager to lynch you. He backed off pretty quickly when I told him your activity wasn't scummy according to your meta. More importantly, for Sig to want to CFD on you as scum, it would make sense only if one of the leading wagons was his teammate. The only options for that w...

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