The Syndicate

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:12 pm I would kill creature, Sig, or Falcon today probably.

I wouldn't kill Sig out of those.

Creature is feeling ok this phase too.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:10 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:56 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:46 pm Guillotine is mafia

Eh...

I could agree if I hadn't spent day 1 mindmelding with him.

I wasn't talking to you

No need to be rude.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:46 pm Guillotine is mafia

Eh...

I could agree if I hadn't spent day 1 mindmelding with him.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:38 pm What do you all think about falcon btw?

Sketchy truth metas aside I feel nothing.

I don't like it much when I feel nothing about a player.

Oh sorry I misread the sentence, I don't call you mean if I'm mafia.

(I thought you meant call you a mean mafioso)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:32 pm DDL voting Michelle is one thing, but DDL doesn't call me mean as mafia as an accusation.

I also apologise if I came across as mean. That is definitely not my intention. I did have a pretty bad day, so my mood was probably low.

I do. That's not specific meta on you because I haven't played that many games with you, but in general I've noticed certain players tend to have a meaner attitude when they are bad, like they feel some contempt at the townies.

But sure, I can't read your mood so if you say you were having a bad day I'll believe you and hope you have better days.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:09 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:06 pmYou don't care about a lot of things do you.

I am indeed having a nihilistic moment.

What's weird about me?

I don't care.

(jk)

I dunno maybe it's OMGUS I just feel there's something mean coming from you I don't like.

Normally you are more fun and games.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:09 pm I just keep getting 69 over and over

Gullo is town.

I keep agreeing with everything he says.

Michelle's entry was yucky and Dizzy feels weird, yeah.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:06 pm Also, we are playing mafia. Even if Nanook makes the actual shots, we still need to scum hunt and find the damn scum. Nanook isn't doing much. We are the ones who have to move this game. I don't even care that much, but come oan.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:23 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:11 pmThere's actually a decent probability this is wolf!Dizzy trying to burn shots.

I'm not about that. Guillo said he was just going to protect Nanook every night. I explained that we decided not to. But I'm going to treat him as confirmed town now because of derp and the whole didn't read the OP story. So I do think he dies before he can use his protections, but we'll see. I also think he'll do what he wants anyway. And I care minimally about it atp.

You don't care about a lot of things do you.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:40 pm Well. Then this might be the game to sort by dog name suitability tbh

@Creature - Excellent dog game, top notch
@Dragon D. Luffy - It takes a special kind of person to name their dog this. I am that kind of person.
@DrWilgy - Yes. With the caveat that this is either a very very small dog or a very very large dog. This is not a Terrier name.
@Dyslexicon - Challenging to be a dog name but whomever goes with it wears black, or all colors, has a hat of some sort that they're known for, and otherwise is a neat person
@falcon45ca - This is a bird
@fingersplints - no, bad, don't
@Guillotine - Angry French Dog. I love it
@hollowkatt - This is a cat
@Marmot - Only if you're into surrealism
@Michelle - Perfectly normal dog name, yes
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Is the best dog name in the thread
@NotAnAxehole - sure, I guess. I wouldn't do it but someone who thinks it's funny to name their pit bull/rottweiler this will do it
@sig - no
@Spacedaisy - absolutely. bonus points if it's a golden retriever or some kind of yappy dog. or a dachshund.
@Urist - This is a Lamborghini masquerading as a dog. no.

I will name a dog after a One Piece character and don't even feel bad for that.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:14 pm I think DDL is most suspicious so far today, for his comments in regards to falcon. It very much reads like maf throwing out some early confirmed town reads.

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

I think if I was mafia I wouldn't try to expose myself that way super early, and definitely not in a way that attempted to actually confirm townies since even a pocket intends to make those townies die eventually. But that's WIFOM I suppose.

I did the Urist dice thing and got a [redacted] so I'll follow it. No idea if it's a good idea or not though, I guess I'll trust the MATHS.

Catching up. Gonna do this page by page.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:31 am Rethinking this. It might not be worth trying to save anyone other than Nanook. In terms of actual value gained by saving other people, we would need 3 successful saves in order to increase our number of miselims from two to three.

Given this, I'm tempted to say we should just do the d3 method because it's prob the only one everyone will be able to understand.

Honestly 3 succesful saves sounds incredibly likely. I've hosted games that didn't have this many doctors and kills failed all the time.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:36 am

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:31 am Rethinking this. It might not be worth trying to save anyone other than Nanook. In terms of actual value gained by saving other people, we would need 3 successful saves in order to increase our number of miselims from two to three.

Given this, I'm tempted to say we should just do the d3 method because it's prob the only one everyone will be able to understand.

I hope NANOOK is a good wolf hunter then.

11 v 4 --> Mislynch --> 10 v 4 --> Odd-night nightkill --> 9 v 4 --> Mislynch --> 8 v 4 --> Even-night nightkills --> 6 v 4 --> Mislynch --> 5 v 4 --> Odd-night nightkill --> 4 v 4

I think it's gonna be extremely hard for town to win if all nightkills succeed.

I hope you are a good wolf hunter too and doesn't just lep Nanook do all the work for you.

I hope you also start wolf hunting soon instead of just doing math.

Since NAA made a "NO MORE MATH" dlecaration in this page i'm reading, my vote now goes to you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:44 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:56 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:16 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

Falcon says he's town when he's mafia as well.

I don't know or care about the role claims.

I don't really think he's suspicious, but he doesn't have a "I'm town" truth tell.

I don't care if you don't care.

This game has no vanilla town roles. Falcon said he doesn't fake claim roles. He claimed a town role. So unless we believe his previous statement about having that meta was a lie, falcon should be treated as confirmed or nearly confirmed town.

I'm not saying falcon has a "no lie" meta. I'm saying he has a "no fake claim" meta. Those metas exist, I've met people with them in other sites before.

I don’t understand the distinction you are making here. Isn’t “claiming a town role” basically the same as just saying you are town this game

You are right, which is why I'm not sure if falcon's weirdly specific meta applies here or not.

So why should falcon “be treated as confirmed or nearly confirmed town”?

Personally I prefer the "nearly" description.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:17 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:18 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:10 pm Im telling you right now, i aint attempting to save anyone in this game but myself, i believes in flips over saves.

Are people gonna have to spend another 2 rl weeks begging you to read the rules post

Do I know you?

Yes.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:21 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:33 am
Why are you so adamant about not cooperating and doing what you want, when you don't seem to understand the basics of the setup in the first place?

Because im better at playing mafia than playing math, the moment i saw this becoming a math game i got bored.

Im still bored.

I love math but I certainly didn't sign up for it so I suympathize with the feeling.

I also want to hunt people who focus opn math more than mafia because I think most of the math here is overthinking and this setup isn't that breakable. We have to find scum and make good protections, that's it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:24 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

And?

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:27 am Why DDL?

His opening posts were somewhat pandery (no pun intended), and his most recent sarcastic post towards Guillo seemed kinda out of left field, but it's something that a couple other people had done earlier in the day in some capacity, and to me felt like it was an attempt to feed off that chaos.

I made jabs at Guillo because I recently hosted a game where he spent all of it acting like he was too cool to read the setup and forcing the players to explain things to him. He started doing it again and it annoyed me.

You are right that we shouldn't keep provoking him, though. Let's keep this civil.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:50 am

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:02 am Also I totally should’ve read the rules before starting since lol wtf is this.

But also oof so glad I’m not the red panda we’d be dead by like day 3 somehow

Also also, is it accurate to say if we don’t use our actions it’s randed? If so wouldn’t it make the most sense for only like 3 ppl to target nanook and nobody else does anything so it’s totally random

I like this post

I like that Sig is already tinfoiling cuz normally he gets misyeeted for that.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:40 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

Falcon says he's town when he's mafia as well.

I don't know or care about the role claims.

I don't really think he's suspicious, but he doesn't have a "I'm town" truth tell.

I don't care if you don't care.

This game has no vanilla town roles. Falcon said he doesn't fake claim roles. He claimed a town role. So unless we believe his previous statement about having that meta was a lie, falcon should be treated as confirmed or nearly confirmed town.

I'm not saying falcon has a "no lie" meta. I'm saying he has a "no fake claim" meta. Those metas exist, I've met people with them in other sites before.

Why would you take Falcon’s word for it?
This looks like a wolf with TMI with a pocket attempt on Falcon.

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

Because I was town with him last game and I'm assuming he didn't lie, because assuming people are liars outside of game context is mean.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:44 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 5:07 am I don’t remember what we did mech wise last time, but I think it worked-ish. Except Nut shot the wrong people.

I think maybe we coordinated enough to have the shooter covered, and then could rogue protect likely other targets of it felt necessary.

Scum won by shooting nutella on n7 so clearly it didn't work lol
I don't think you came up with a system in the last game.

I mean they won because town misyeeted almost every time. They were going to hit nutella sooner or later, it was just a matter of making town use all their resources.

Iirc maybe nutella could have survived a day longer depending on luck, but at that point, it was mainly on town for letting the situation get that risky to begin with.

So yeah we don't win this game just by keeping nanook alive, we have to take down mafia before they kill all our doctors.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:16 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

Falcon says he's town when he's mafia as well.

I don't know or care about the role claims.

I don't really think he's suspicious, but he doesn't have a "I'm town" truth tell.

I don't care if you don't care.

This game has no vanilla town roles. Falcon said he doesn't fake claim roles. He claimed a town role. So unless we believe his previous statement about having that meta was a lie, falcon should be treated as confirmed or nearly confirmed town.

I'm not saying falcon has a "no lie" meta. I'm saying he has a "no fake claim" meta. Those metas exist, I've met people with them in other sites before.

I don’t understand the distinction you are making here. Isn’t “claiming a town role” basically the same as just saying you are town this game

You are right, which is why I'm not sure if falcon's weirdly specific meta applies here or not.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:14 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

Is this why you asked him if he was a doctor directly?

Yes.

People who have truth metas should be met with claim prompts asap imo.

I love Pandaman but he looks silly af in this pic, I think I'm swapping avys again.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:42 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:37 am Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

Falcon says he's town when he's mafia as well.

I don't know or care about the role claims.

I don't really think he's suspicious, but he doesn't have a "I'm town" truth tell.

I don't care if you don't care.

This game has no vanilla town roles. Falcon said he doesn't fake claim roles. He claimed a town role. So unless we believe his previous statement about having that meta was a lie, falcon should be treated as confirmed or nearly confirmed town.

I'm not saying falcon has a "no lie" meta. I'm saying he has a "no fake claim" meta. Those metas exist, I've met people with them in other sites before.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:21 pm Anyways this game is literally up to me to solve so like

Antagonizing me and refusing to cooperate isn't gonna help things

Literally just asking you to be a team player

I strongly recommend you don't attempt to solve it by yourself and just follow whatever the majority is saying unless you have REALLY strong reasons not to.

Otherwise odds are you are joining nutella in the "traumatized by this setup" spec chat next time.

This game has a limited post count.

Some people are burning their whole limit talking about mech and later on they will be able to use that as an excuse not to scumhunt.

I'd kill one of the people doing that. [VOTE: NAA] aubergine

As for the mech, here are my two cents.

Nanook needs to be protected 24/7. I think the safe number is 5 docs on odd days and 6 docs on even days. We can do a little less if we think the entire mafia won't get on the doctor block. Maybe 4 and 5. I'll volunteer for the doctor block today if nobody else will, but we should rotate.

Everyone else should protect conservatively, so we don't waste our protects early. Do not announce whether you are protecting or not, and who. Just do what you feel like and be cautious.

Falcon told me last game he never lies about his role claims.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:10 pm Im telling you right now, i aint attempting to save anyone in this game but myself, i believes in flips over saves.

Are people gonna have to spend another 2 rl weeks begging you to read the rules post

Hmm

Not sure how hardcore your truth meta is in this case tbh, like theres no work to fake claim the only available town role. But some players have truth metas that are like a religion and they'd rather self-modkill than break them.

srsly

Oh yeah falcon you have a truth meta right

Are you a doctor?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:09 pm @Syn new game-relevant avatar pls

Done.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:31 pm yes I camped the game start to make that the first post.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Our leader is indeed great and fearsome.