The Syndicate

@TH:

Arguably the only day we haven't given him free reign was Day 3. On Day 1/2 he was receiving no heat.

Reading through Sig's D1 posts I just ran into this:

sig wrote:I've got a negative gut read if Diiny, his playstyle is reminding me of West Wing on RYM when we where baddies. I don't like how much he is switching his opinion as DDL pointed out.

sig wrote:I switched my vote to diiny I've already given some reasons before, DDL made some good points and I've also got a bad gut read of him. He seems to be playing the same way he did in West Wing when we where mafia together.

Those posts were shady as fuck. I think they might fit with what Golden said about intention.

Danmit Sig you are not making this easy.

Golden wrote:And, can't you see the argument that sig is almost surely going down

Putting whether Sig is bad or not aside, I really hate this "inevitability" argument.

We don't necessarily have to lynch Sig. We can... never lynch him at all.

Turning the game into a checklist makes the job much easier for scum.

@Golden

So you're suggesting we minimize the posting style and just look at vote history?

@Epi

Fair point.

I'll think for a little while. Maybe read Sig's posts again.

Golden wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I mean, assuming he is a cop too.
Are you getting at bussing rather than saving?

No, I'm getting at 4 cops screaming at him on Chatzy and telling him to shut up.

Or, if they are not assholes, at least giving him some tips, like "don't OMGUS all the time".

Sorry if I'm offending you Sig. But godanmmit you are so scummy.

@SVS

The Syndicate has taught be to look ar bananas and assume they are anything other than that.

I mean, assuming he is a cop too.

Really guys.

Picture yourself as a cop.

You see this guy posting.

What is your first impulse?

So you are a cop?

The fourth sentence in my post was meant to be ironic.

Quin wrote:Can someone remind me why Tranq's role is unknown?

Also, we should consider all of the 'new' suspicions that came up on Day 3 as an attempt for mafia to lynch a don. By that I mean anyone who's name wasn't brought up on Night 2, but only on Day 3. I'm going to have a look through those phases and see what I can find. I think it unlikely that scum wouldn't act on the knowledge that they'd outted a don straight away.

Night killed roles are usually hidden by default in this site.

Matt and Wilgy are actually the exception, probably due to the mafia vs mafia mechanic unique to this game

Ok, I have a question for all the people thinking or intending to vote for Sig:

What are the chances he is just being his scummy self and that we are mislynching town Sig again?

Because I got the impression some of his posts were so cringe-worthy there's no way he has a team working with him.

If this was a closed setup game on NF I'd call jester (a role who wins the game if it gets lynched).

Lol at mods being on strike.

Nice.

Btw guys, one of the prisoner accounts seems to be online rignt now.

I'll be fair Nero, I don't read you that heavily as bad. I voted for you because I didn't suspect LC at all, while I had a "last minute Sig panic" which I still don't know if it was warranted or not. So you were like, the compromise option.

Actually I just saw Serge has 26 posts. I think it might be a good idea to try and form a better read on him. Dude is slipping by.

I suspect Serge too. But there has been less to talk about Serge because his post count borders on inactive. I'm kind of afraid of lynching inactives, since it's lottery.

I don't suspect Black Rock after her attempt of saving LC.

sig wrote:I'm not setting you up for a wagon I'm seeing the parallels between this and your last two games, granted I don't think I've ever played with you as civ which makes me hesitant to pursue you.

DDL seems to be mixing lots of things up.

@DDL thoughts on Nero and Sloonie?

linki: I see your point, though I think him using bought votes is an important portion of the discussion since people are saying that makes him more scummy.

Sloonei is one of those players I'm praying to the mafia god he is good, otherwise we are royally fucked.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Point is, analysing the vote is useful (as in, whether he saved Sig because they are temmates or if his reasons for voting are legit). Trying to understand whether the admission of buying votes is an honest civ thing, or a baddie trying to appear as honest, is an exercise in futility.
Well that's just, like, your opinion man.

As is everything I've posted in this game.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:Im choosing my fights as I feel like.
Specially the ones that have no chance of being turned into an actual lynch.
Also Luffy I thought this was harsh. If you don't think chaindeath is a viable lynch candidate that's hardly Nero's fault. That's some unnecessary shade you're throwing.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Oh don't worry I think Chaindeath looks bad too. In fact, I'm having a hard time deciding which one of you is.

I just feel like you guys are playing a parallel game. You are out of the spotlight. I'm always pinged by players who are out of the spotlight.
And how can you say Nero is out of the spotlight? He was one of three wagons yesterday.

I mean he is playing in a way to be someone who is avoiding the spotlight. The Chaindeath vote itself is not necessarily wrong, but I feel like Nero is avoiding the main discussion.

Of course, I am also considering the position that the guy just likes to pursue tangents, but I have to point out every possibility.

Turnip Head wrote:but why even put yourself in a position like that.... just keep your mouth shut.

His position was bad before Day 3 and it can be argued that it got worse after yet another badly aimed vote. Such a display of honesty could put him in a better position.

Point is, analysing the vote is useful (as in, whether he saved Sig because they are temmates or if his reasons for voting are legit). Trying to understand whether the admission of buying votes is an honest civ thing, or a baddie trying to appear as honest, is an exercise in futility.

Oh sorry. he didn't vote for Sig, he voted for LC. I mixed things up.

I feel like discussing whether revealing the buying of votes is scummy or not is a huge WIFOM. I think the vote is more meaningful for the fact Quin voted for Sin (and why he did it) than the fact he bought a vote for that.

Oh don't worry I think Chaindeath looks bad too. In fact, I'm having a hard time deciding which one of you is.

I just feel like you guys are playing a parallel game. You are out of the spotlight. I'm always pinged by players who are out of the spotlight.

Nerolunar wrote:Im choosing my fights as I feel like.

Specially the ones that have no chance of being turned into an actual lynch.

Wow lots of useful discussion to catch up on.

Matt wrote:Sooooo

We're all in agreement that ika just slipped and knows who the failed arrest was right? Not sure cuz of all the OT feel good times.

I'm skeptical about the idea of "slips".

They don't happen that often.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let the baddies hit the floor.

I'm now picturing the marmot from your avatar saying that and then dancing a tango with that flower in its mouth.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:If we lynch gleam and he flips bad, I'd love to go after TH next.
On what grounds?
You were the one responsible for moving the lynch away from gleam, but not for moving it to Fuzz.
Oh. Okay.

Well I think if that was my intention I would have just bolstered one of the existing bandwagons, but you're rewriting history a bit, I was trying to move off all 3 of ika, Gleam and Epi, it just so happened that the Gleam wagon is the one that budged. There are easier ways for me to go about doing what you're accusing me of, I think.

In any case I'm a straight thug and my thoughts are genuine, so I'm not gonna feel too bad if I get tied up in some conspiracy tinfoiling. You can frame a narrative any number of ways, what you have to decide is whether I'm being genuine or not

That said I didn't want to lynch Gleam yesterday because I didn't like how quickly he got 6 votes, but his contributions today haven't been all that encouraging. I think he deserves another looksee.

Relax, you are not at the top of my list. I think I read you as neutral now.

I think it's good to point out the possibility though. And a successful lynch on gleam could make the whole thing less tinfoil-y.

Turnip Head wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:If we lynch gleam and he flips bad, I'd love to go after TH next.
On what grounds?

You were the one responsible for moving the lynch away from gleam, but not for moving it to Fuzz.

If we lynch gleam and he flips bad, I'd love to go after TH next.

Black Rock wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Well BR was right about LC, assuming no undercover cop and no cop BR. Apparently people's abilities to read their significant other in mafia is pretty good.
Do you think he'd claim that role as a cop? Where the hell were his friends?

Can we lynch TH now?

He claimed what?

Silverwolf wrote:I don't like how Gleam voted off the major wagons and has been mostly absent this day phase. I feel like he's trying to hide.

I'm having that "lynch gleam" itch again.

Well BR was right about LC, assuming no undercover cop and no cop BR. Apparently people's abilities to read their significant other in mafia is pretty good.

ika wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:OK, I've been super busy and am several pages behind. I'll try to catch up over night phase here.
We've found (one of) the baddie Long Con voter(s)!

Care to make a case for that? She's more town then anyone here. Including myself

She won't. She doesn't want to make cases for anyone. She'll just follow "the people who are correct".

sig wrote:linki: DDL do you not think I'm mafia anymore or?

I don't know what to think. I changed my mind about you very fast lately. i'll use those next 72 hours to think more.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:We should have CFD'd zeebs when we had the chance.
You're going down, marmot.
And a stunning display it will be!

Linki: Thanks DDL, but I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish there. I don't see that post as arrogant.

Not that post in particular, but zebra has been a liability to the civs since the start of the game, and yet she has been acting like she has a better grasp of the game than everyone else.

That's arrogant.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Okay I saw the death and thought it was Sig flipping bad.

I just noticed it was LC.

Godanmit.

WHY

Correction. Sig flipping good. What I mean is, I just looked at the blue color and didn't read anything else.

a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:We should have CFD'd zeebs when we had the chance.
You're going down, marmot.

Stop.

You didn't do anything right this day. You tunneled on LC and refused to explain why. For all we know you could be wrong about Sig and Nero too. Or mafia.

Leave that arrogance at home please.

Okay I saw the death and thought it was Sig flipping bad.

I just noticed it was LC.

Godanmit.

WHY

This result is not ironic. It's just sad.

a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:If Sig is bad I'll ROTFL.
Because you never would have seen it coming, right? After all, you were sure he was civ the whole time.

Oh wait.

Because I almost voted for him then changed my mind "cuz it's Sig". It's ironic.

If Sig is bad I'll ROTFL.

a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:And now not only are you advocating lynching him, you think that a Golden read would be a bonus and not the main course?
Let me explain a little better. In Sig vote, which I eventually abandoned, I was lynching him partly because of the bonus of reading Golden. But it was just a bonus, not the main course.

I was speculating on the possibility of voting just to confirm Golden. But I doubt I'd ever do that in reality, because it's kind against the spirit of the game. I mean, we are supposed to hunt scum.

Sorry if it wasn't clear enough for lack of tone in the internet.

You are putting way more importance in my Golden/Sig argument than it deserves.

a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Serge wrote:@Metalmarsh89 try searching for *Fuzz
Thanks, that's mighty useful.

Oh and also sig.
Okay DDL you're officially voting for a sig lynch by not switching to Long Con now.

I don't want to lynch Long Con. He is less suspicious to me than Sig.

a2thezebra wrote:And now not only are you advocating lynching him, you think that a Golden read would be a bonus and not the main course?

Let me explain a little better. In Sig vote, which I eventually abandoned, I was lynching him partly because of the bonus of reading Golden. But it was just a bonus, not the main course.

I was speculating on the possibility of voting just to confirm Golden. But I doubt I'd ever do that in reality, because it's kind against the spirit of the game. I mean, we are supposed to hunt scum.

Sorry if it wasn't clear enough for lack of tone in the internet.

Not everything I say is what I want to do right now. Some is just speculation.

That's why I said "it could be argued".

a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:A Sig baddie lynch would be a strong indicator for Golden being town.

And it could be argued that getting a realiable read on Golden is more useful to town on the long run than lynching a baddie, imo.
I would like to see that argument.
A Scum Golden who can't be read is a steamroll waiting to happen.

I don't think I'm lynching Sig today, though.
A steamroll indeed it is. But is a reliable read on Golden (which in itself is nowhere near gained from a fucking sig baddie lynch) really preferable to baddie death?
Maybe. After seeing Golden beat 10 townies by himself, it could be.

I'm not lynching someone JUST to get a read on Golden though. That's just a bonus.
But I thought you said that you didn't think you were lynching sig today?

I'm not.

We are just arguing about a point that is obsolete because I switched my vote 15 minutes ago.

a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:A Sig baddie lynch would be a strong indicator for Golden being town.

And it could be argued that getting a realiable read on Golden is more useful to town on the long run than lynching a baddie, imo.
I would like to see that argument.
A Scum Golden who can't be read is a steamroll waiting to happen.

I don't think I'm lynching Sig today, though.
A steamroll indeed it is. But is a reliable read on Golden (which in itself is nowhere near gained from a fucking sig baddie lynch) really preferable to baddie death?

Maybe. After seeing Golden beat 10 townies by himself, it could be.

I'm not lynching someone JUST to get a read on Golden though. That's just a bonus.

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