The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:36 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:33 pmI've certainly seen it before.
Going along those lines, a mentality of wanting to stop town having what is preceived as unfair advantages also is a rather common mindset slip. Let's say something like "we can't role claim right, it's totally banned right, or else that would be super unfair!" Just mentioning it for the shade.

Hmm who did that? Avito?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:59 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:57 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:51 pm I could lynch lapluie too.
Why ?
Zero civilian credit to be found and her dismissal of her own vote is weak.
Yeah, I didn't like how she backed off of her own vote. And the reason to begin with was weak sauce. Felt forced and she just jumped on an opportunity to have a vote on the table early on.

Avito's lynch isn't happening and I don't like my vote to be meaningless, so I'll jump there. You coming ?

I hate this post.

How was Avito lynch not happening? He had like 3 votes on him at some point.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:22 pm Well damn. That's good stuff, Dizzy.

<Vote lapluie> with bewildered question mark meme guy followed by You lynched lapluie? This had better meet my standards. is a pretty terrible look.

A friend of mine once told me excessive criticism of town can be viewed as a baddie sign. As if they are unconsciously rooting against town.

This fits it.

Spoiler: show

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:22 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 12:50 pm
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 12:49 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 12:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:59 am I don't really think this thing was a hot potato. Whatever it was, a civilian was lynched.

On Day 1, a civilian usually gets lynched. Oh well, it sucks, but we move forward. If the game maintains its pace, we'll be fine. The civilians are winning right now.
What is a hot potato? I'm hungry.

Also, town is winning, obivously, cause town is awesome. BUT, I want to stress that if all town does not start getting involved for real we're not going anywhere. There are five mafia members, and we do need coordination and a sense of urgency. Just a mantra I have.
The post from Quin says that there are 4 mafia, did I miss something?
And the Golden character seems to be a town aligned 3p unless he counts as nontown for numbers?
Maybe he learns to love over the course of the series or something but as of Epi 1, the yellow guy wants to destroy the whole planet and has already destroyed most of the moon. I’d bet on him as bad.

Fake news.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 12:44 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:33 am The procedure is not to close yours eyes and vote randomly like you guys did there.

Like the day has 24 hours for a reason. You use them. The moment Mac threw the word CFD the rest of you dropped every discussion you had done so far and started randomly changing your vote like madmen.
Well, yeah, meh. Personally I feel that without a super clear direction, CFD at the end of day 1 is not the worst way to go because 1) you can get lucky and 2) everyone participating gives information and reacts in a fast paced thread. (3 - it's kind of fun).

I would prefer building good cases going forward. Do you have any? I'm more in PoE land right now. More about that later.

I'm more on the weak reads territory. I have weak bad reads on nova, Avito, wolbre and Dom. Weak civ reads on you, Jay, and Scotty. Neutral on everyone else I think.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 12:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:59 am I don't really think this thing was a hot potato. Whatever it was, a civilian was lynched.

On Day 1, a civilian usually gets lynched. Oh well, it sucks, but we move forward. If the game maintains its pace, we'll be fine. The civilians are winning right now.
What is a hot potato? I'm hungry.

Also, town is winning, obivously, cause town is awesome. BUT, I want to stress that if all town does not start getting involved for real we're not going anywhere. There are five mafia members, and we do need coordination and a sense of urgency. Just a mantra I have.

Imo going by the role description and the character himself the indie is anything but mafia.

He may actually have a wincon of his own but he seems geared to help town.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 4:15 am

I hate being late, hate hate hate it! Such brilliant students as yourselves don't deserve that!

Not that the E class noticed. They were too busy poking each other with sticks to even notice lapluie had impaled herself with one! Oops!

lapluie has been lynched.

Spoiler: show
She was Karma Akabane.

Night 1 has begun. To make up for the late host post (and also because I'm busy tomorrow as well) Night 1 will be extended to 9:30 AEST on Sunday (about 39 hours).

Please take your time Quin. I have MBA this weekend. And a job interview on monday. And maybe another interview on tuesday. The more the game delays, the better.

And you are misinterpreting what I said. I didn't say anyone voted at random. I am saying CFDs bring the hunting process to a success rate closer to randomness than otherwise.

One answer is right above it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:39 am I think that strategy sucks and I will not subscribe. You do you.

Fair enough.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:36 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:33 am The procedure is not to close yours eyes and vote randomly like you guys did there.

Like the day has 24 hours for a reason. You use them. The moment Mac threw the word CFD the rest of you dropped every discussion you had done so far and started randomly changing your vote like madmen.
Why does parking a wagon on one person improve the likelihood of a successful lynch?

Not necessarily parking, but making sure you only change votes after discussing them and reasoning them and not doing it on a heartbeat.

Rushing it makes it less like an analysis and more like RNG.

If there are only 10 min left and you feel there is not enough time for discussion, maybe it's a good sign you should stick to whoever is your biggest suspect so far.

I'm looking at nova again because that "we are not going to lynch Avito anyway vote lapluie" was the most suspicious thing I read all week.

The procedure is not to close yours eyes and vote randomly like you guys did there.

Like the day has 24 hours for a reason. You use them. The moment Mac threw the word CFD the rest of you dropped every discussion you had done so far and started randomly changing your vote like madmen.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:03 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:59 am I don't really think this thing was a hot potato. Whatever it was, a civilian was lynched.

On Day 1, a civilian usually gets lynched. Oh well, it sucks, but we move forward. If the game maintains its pace, we'll be fine. The civilians are winning right now.
No we are not, we just lost the deuteragonist of town.

If character importance is an indication of roles, this is only better than losing Nagisa.
I don't care about roles.

I understand if you don't, but I disagree we are winning. This lynch was close to worst case scenario.

We only win the game by lynching baddies. Everything else is stalling at best.

Ok I'm not going to bash people for this because I missed the EoD so it would be hypocritical of me.

But have I mentioned I hate CFDs before? I hate CFDs.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 6:59 am I don't really think this thing was a hot potato. Whatever it was, a civilian was lynched.

On Day 1, a civilian usually gets lynched. Oh well, it sucks, but we move forward. If the game maintains its pace, we'll be fine. The civilians are winning right now.

No we are not, we just lost the deuteragonist of town.

If character importance is an indication of roles, this is only better than losing Nagisa.

Right now I think I'm actually more likely to vote Avito instead of nova because they two have more games with each other than I have with either of them, and nova's meta read made sense.

I mean, I'm used to Avito being inactive, but he strikes me as someone who plays seriously sometimes, even if this is not common anymore.

I'd like to see [mention]Avito[/mention] actually defend himself against nova's accusation with something other than a No U vote tho.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:11 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:37 am I don't like how nova just voted for Avito and left.

In our other site Avito is always getting day 1 lynched for memes so it makes sense in context there. There.

Here this vote is completely meaningless. Nobody knows Avito. Nova made and easy vote that is not particularly likely to turn into a lynch and left.
I struggle to understand the purpose of this defense. What relevance does this have if it isn't an accusation against nova? DDL is currently voting Dom...which is an easy vote that is not particularly likely to turn into a lynch.

I can't make two votes and the Dom one looked more juicy at the time (pushing an inactive to post)

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:01 pm I need to hear more from Avito, Dom, INH, lap, Pennywise and wolbre04. I'm a fan of the theory that mafia lays low - I saw it in spades in GOC - so I could give my vote to someone who has not participated much.
Always depends on the personality.

Not all people want to be on the DDL

I hope not. It would be heavy.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:58 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:00 am @novaselinenever I may have missed it but could you explain why you are voting for Avito?
I didn't like him coming in and criticizing the emojis.
To be fair, DDL did that first

what

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 1:57 pm Seriously though, I was leaning towards voting Penny now. I think he hasn't any other games here going on? He's newer here and I would expect more activety excitement? I have absolutely no impression of him in this game. And nobody has brought him up or brought attention to him before now. With this in mind the meta from Dragon was very helpful. Penny not being all over the thread is according to the meta to be expected. But it still leaves me with no read what so ever. And having someone who has a playstyle who's not very pro town and hard to clear, but effective as scum, doesn't sound great to me. Sue me.

He's playing another game. Maybe two if he's in the sockpuppet game.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:48 pm Sounds like pennywise has gotten good at lasting long into games

Lately I think I've seen him lynched early more often, but it's because people have become increasingly aware of that tendency.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:56 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:54 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:52 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:49 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:32 am Marmot asked a single question in his eight posts of pertinence to making reads (about INH potentially voting Scotty). That's a civilian ratio for Marmot.
JaggedJimmyJay called me a civilian for the most minimal of content ever offered in the history of Marmots.

Lynch this bear.
You always lament your lack of credit, but when you get it you get scared.
Your response made me laugh.

Damn, and I already voted for you and everything.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
What a waste of time. This looks suspicious. Is this a joke vote? JJJ isn't getting lynched Day 1, what world do you think we're in?

He's not self-voting, so I think that's an improvement

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:40 am Avito's posts are not game-relevant. I have no reason to give Avito civilian credit. I do know that Naruto Forums games are known for getting off to fluffy starts, so I am hesitant to call it "suspicious". Dragon D. Luffy, whaddya think of your NF mates so far?

Alright... I don't know Avito that much. He's not originally from NF, he's from Oro Jackson, another anime site (which I also think is nova's home site). I think I played two games with him. In the first game I played people were trying to launch a campaign to get him policy lynched on day 1 for accumulated crappy civ play on Oro Jackson. He doesn't strike me as particularly lazy compared to some people I know, and I've seen him actually making reads a couple times games, but I guess there is something about him that pisses people off. Insulting out smileys doesn't help.

So far he has been pretty much useless, but I wouldn't lynch him Day 1, first because I want to be diplomatic to new players, and second because Avito is the ultimate bait and I'm not falling for it, which also explains why I said before that I suspect nova for falling for it.

As for Pennywise... where do I start. He's a mafia veteran who played for years before I started. I think I've played at least 20 games with him, and hosted another 10 that he played. I think the best comparison I can make is that he's NFs answer to Marmot. He fluffs a lot, he doesn't really like to scumhunt most of the time, and you usually have to press him to get actual reads. But that doesn't mean he isn't playing: he's always paying attention to everything, the rules, the roles, the posts, and he'll sometimes show up to correct some contradiction someone made, or make a snarky remark at a player for not reading a post from the host. He always makes a vote at the end of the day, usually explaining it with only a smiley. He will always use his role, and the one time in a game I hosted where he didn't send abilities he actually came to apologize (I mean, it wasn't a role that civs wanted used every night, so he didn't need to

). So he's not a civ protagonist, but he's usually useful in some way. His playstyle isn't super pro-civ but it's amazing for a mafioso, though, because no one wants to lynch him. He has this aura of innocence and likability (plus he's usually the one who does the vote counts and we don't wanna lose that no sir). Usually at the end of the game, assuming he hasn't been NK'd yet, someone will bring him up and ask what to do with him.

Anyway, I've been trying to make him sign up for a game for like a year. He's one of the best friends I have in the internet, so it's great to have him here too.

Now for this game, if you read the above, you should guess I haven't the faintest idea of how to read Pennywise.

Knowing Avito he probably didn't read the rules.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:45 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:42 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:38 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:37 am I don't like how nova just voted for Avito and left.

In our other site Avito is always getting day 1 lynched for memes so it makes sense in context there. There.

Here this vote is completely meaningless. Nobody knows Avito. Nova made and easy vote that is not particularly likely to turn into a lynch and left.
This is a good read. I like this.
I'm not sure if I feel happy about this post or sus because it's day 1 and we are not pointing knives at each other's throats.
Sorry there is one thing I might have misunderstood. Does Nova know Avito or not?

He does.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:38 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:37 am I don't like how nova just voted for Avito and left.

In our other site Avito is always getting day 1 lynched for memes so it makes sense in context there. There.

Here this vote is completely meaningless. Nobody knows Avito. Nova made and easy vote that is not particularly likely to turn into a lynch and left.
This is a good read. I like this.

I'm not sure if I feel happy about this post or sus because it's day 1 and we are not pointing knives at each other's throats.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:37 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:33 am All the people giving shit to Jack and Sprit for lame activity but

What about Dom?

I'm pretty sure he made a bunch of posts so far but none I care for

I am actually more willing to go after him than the other two because there is some probability scum is voting for them, but not him.

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine
Who gave shit to sprit?

I'm not making a list but a lot of people were poking him for only having one post law few pages.

I actually like the theory that wolbre looks bad because of smileys. Recently I played a burglary game as scum where I kept spamming a smiley that indicated frustration at every post. Later I noticed I should have toned down. But it feels natural to post smileys because you want to look more human and friendly when you are bad.

I don't like how nova just voted for Avito and left.

In our other site Avito is always getting day 1 lynched for memes so it makes sense in context there. There.

Here this vote is completely meaningless. Nobody knows Avito. Nova made and easy vote that is not particularly likely to turn into a lynch and left.

I'm not giving shit to Juliets for asking about sports. I think sure she could have googled it but if you use the internet to get answers to all your questions you are missing a lot of chances to socialize.

All the people giving shit to Jack and Sprit for lame activity but

What about Dom?

I'm pretty sure he made a bunch of posts so far but none I care for

I am actually more willing to go after him than the other two because there is some probability scum is voting for them, but not him.

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:27 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:22 am
juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:57 pm juliets asks a lot of questions.

So far she's asked if the Indians won, which is obvious that they did not, since I wasn't in here with the hype (and never mind that it takes four seconds to search "Indians score"). That's it.
I do ask a lot of questions but I'm just not in full swing Day 0. I asked if the Indians won because I didn't know and wanted to know whether you were in the money. No different than me asking you in discord if we both were in there. If you guys want to lynch me Day 1 because I asked a question about the Indians have at it. I'm too tired to fight it tonight.
I don't like this post. I always think baddies are more likely to act defeatist than civs (not that civs can't, but I think baddies have a tendency to forget about the game and jump to AtE sooner than civs who still want to hunt)
As I said in the post, I was dead tired last night and just over it. I don't post seriously at night because I am usually too tired. Morning is my time and I feel differently this morning than I did last night. I will fight a Lynch.

Hmm fair enough, I was reading that post in isolation.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:15 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:57 pm juliets asks a lot of questions.

So far she's asked if the Indians won, which is obvious that they did not, since I wasn't in here with the hype (and never mind that it takes four seconds to search "Indians score"). That's it.
I do ask a lot of questions but I'm just not in full swing Day 0. I asked if the Indians won because I didn't know and wanted to know whether you were in the money. No different than me asking you in discord if we both were in there. If you guys want to lynch me Day 1 because I asked a question about the Indians have at it. I'm too tired to fight it tonight.

I don't like this post. I always think baddies are more likely to act defeatist than civs (not that civs can't, but I think baddies have a tendency to forget about the game and jump to AtE sooner than civs who still want to hunt)

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 4:42 pm Also this is based off of an anime which is Japanese hence the proper answer is Japanese.

If we go by the anime, the two best students in the school (Karma Akabane and the principal's son) have math as their strongest subject.

Math > all

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 1:26 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:54 pmCan I say- if anyone else did this, and said this, I wouldn’t believe them either.

But then I would also say it’s not alignment indicative.
I get yall’s dubiousness, but it’s mostly for myself. Keeps me level headed and viewing people at an equal footing
I mean, I said I already tend to believe you, but now I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't. Anyway, it doesn't really matter all that much right now. Do you have a take on the blood drops JJJ has pressed out of the thread so far?
Yeah, I think he’s trying too hard on D0

He's doing that thing where he seriously scumhunts but being more interested in using the reactions to make better reads later than actually voting for the people he's scumhunting.

Standard civ MO from him iirc. Easy to imitate too.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:40 pm
wolbre04 is a mafioso because he used this smilie in both of his only two posts and it looks fake.
.......
Or I was just friendly

Mafia is friendly a lot of the time.

I'd wager even more than town.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 12:19 pm Scotty and Mac are civilians.

Scotty?

If he's really telling the truth about the not reading thing he's NAI at best.

To be fair knowing Scotty he is probably telling the truth though. He likes those weird Day 1 metas.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:34 am My only wish in the world right now is that the guys from NF (which site is that btw?) who seems to know each other gets an avatar so my feeble brain can have an easier time keeping them apart. o.o

Naruto Forums

Avito wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:39 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 6:36 am Hey folks we have a nice selection of smileys here too
Your similes sucks period
Also what are the rules here regarding role claims it's an open setup so it's banned right

We have mafia specific smiles tho.

Also we have the siren.

Spoiler: show

(I found about the siren last week don't make fun of me)

Avito wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:39 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 6:36 am Hey folks we have a nice selection of smileys here too
Your similes sucks period
Also what are the rules here regarding role claims it's an open setup so it's banned right

Banned.

Also pay attention that when we ban role claims, we also ban every kind of reveal of info that you obtained from abilities. So like, if you happen to be a cop, you can't reveal your results (you have to pretend you are legit scumhunting the person). If someone sends you a message with an ability, you can't reveal it. Etc. Some crazy hinting goes in those games.

Hey folks we have a nice selection of smileys here too

Avito wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 4:33 am Wtf
I thought I asked to be replaced in this one

You did. They dont have replacements.

I'm still giggling that Epi made that post when one of the new players is from India.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 8:50 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 8:40 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 7:37 pm Sup fam?
Top mafia read
Got a daykill?

Role fishing already fam?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 8:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 8:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 8:41 pm First off, I don't know how you can be excited about science and pout about math.

Second off, if the Indians win tonight, I will donate $10 to anything you want. Name it.
Math is cool, it just doesn't get me off. I like it less than I'd like to like it.
I was really good at math but I hated the subject.

That's me with Chemistry

I like all subjects (/nerd)

Don't know Japanese but would probably enjoy it too.

Oh its just for the memes then

Poor Avito already being target of both a vote and rascism, and on day 0.

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