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by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 3:46 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

G-Man wrote:Image
So... Do you want me to vote you right now, or after you try to explain why you have been trolling us for the entire game?
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 1:21 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

This was probably the last one. Other players I either think they're town, or have nothing much to add. I'm still trying to figure out what I think on G-Man, for example.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 1:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Thoughts on Bass: My opinion of him has dropped a lot lately. First, there's my Adam Smith tinfoily theory, whose weaknesses I recognize, but still think it's more likely than not. But other than that, Bass usefulness in the game has become nearly null in the last few phases. He disappears for the w...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 1:07 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

JJJ - good overall, but I'm slightly uncomfortable that he's still alive (then again what if mafia wants us to feel this way :scared: ) I'm having this feeling since the game started. JJJ is my biggest "I honestly hope he isn't mafia or we're fucked" player. I wish Sloonei was here, he se...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 1:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Thoughts on splints: This one is hard to read. She has been all over the place lately in this game. First there was the whole stuff with the BR tunneling, the weird aether vote on D3 which could suggest bussing, the arguing with MP... None of those things really make her a big suspect. They are all ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 12:33 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Thoughts on birdwithteeth/Golden 2.0 bwt was my number 2 suspect on Day 3. One of the reasons was because of his somewhat inconsistent activity. Then he got replaced, which gave him the perfect alibi for not being active. I still think his Day 2 vote, combined with his explanations of it and what I ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 12:13 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

acrosstheaether wrote:In fact I'm tempted to go ahead and vote for myself. My flip is gonna give the rest of my fellow libertarians a heckuva lotta information.
Go ahead, it will save us a lot of the energy that has been focused trying to argue with you and being ignored.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 12:11 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Seriously, everyone, G-Man is fucking faking this shit. Let's be honest here. - If he were cursed, it's highly dubious that it would have taken effect as early as Day 1, before any night actions could be submitted. It also cannot be due to the D0 poll because literally NO ONE else has had this prob...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 12:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

fingersplints wrote:MP right now reminds me of a dog who is so excited he is just peeing all over everything. :shrug2:
:haha:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 11:22 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Also MP, to answer your question, if I had to vote right now, I'd bet on my own theory and vote Bass.

I don't wanna vote right now, though. :scared:
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 11:20 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Thoughts on MP: I refuse to do a full read on his posts because I want to preserve my own sanity. :pout: Day 1 I suspected him because of his somewhat artificial defense of him. I still think that was artificial, but again, that's me being naturally suspicious of people defending me when everyone el...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 11:11 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

MovingPictures07 wrote: 666. BR, Jay, MP, Turnip
:scared:

Add Sloonei to the mix, if that was still possible. You have an incredibly scary team.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 11:08 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Let's do some reads. Thoughts on Roxy: At first, I was suspicious of her because of her Golden "defends-then-disappears-as-he's-lynched" thing. Her explanation about real life was legit enough, but didn't change the fact the whole Golden thing could be easily exploited by scum. She was a l...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 10:53 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Turnip Head wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I have several mafia team scenarios going around in my head at the moment. What do players think of these?

7. BR, DDL, Turnip, Roxy

etc.
This is the best one.
I'd surrender right away if someone told me I had to face that team.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 10:35 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Do you think he is the one responsible for your posting restriction? I still am not sure what's causing it, but when rereading just him I noticed this post: Hey G-Man, are you even allowed to write full texts in images like that? :shifty: I agree other lynches may produce more information. But dunn...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 10:26 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

DDL, what do you think of aether? Has your opinion changed at all? Still think she's scummy af. However, I thought about Jay's points that he made yesterday about her and they are valid, and I gotta admit I don't know her meta. I still believe a lynch of her has a good chance of producing a mafia f...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 10:22 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

fingersplints wrote:I disagree that I "threw a tantrum"

When did I "stop posting"? I was literally only gone for 12 hours as I slept and then walked my dog
You should notice this is pretty much speculation at this point. You didn't stop posting.

But yes, you threw a tantrum.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Fri May 29, 2015 8:54 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Fair enough. I still think the possibility of you bussing BR is rather low. But ragequitting won't do yourself any favors. If you go "just lynch me", we'll have to lynch you. You should stay here and keep discussing. I did not quit. But I see the way this is going. If you think I am not g...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 10:19 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Did you even read the post I wrote that explained the theory. It was based on Adam Smith's kill of Epi, and TinyBubbles' votes in the phase. That has nothing to do with hosts revealing roles though. Hosts in this game reveal the name of the killer by default, and that is done in most of the games I'...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 10:16 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

I still don't get why you think one thing has to do with the other one. I've said over and over the Invisible Hand thing isn't evidence for jack shit. You keep putting words in my mouth and pretending I think it is. But to answer your question, I'm on the fence now. Not because of the Invisible Hand...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:59 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

For the third time: I said it was a COINCIDENCE. I didn't build my theory on some video a host posted. I built it on info that came before, and has been coming since Night 1. And now that I notice the write-up is called "Invisible Hands". I doubt hosts would give away roles like this, but ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:48 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

No, it's the opposite. I think the hosts would have no problem saying that hole performed the kill, but won't reveal the role of the player who died in the night.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:35 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

i could dig a full reads list from DDL especially. tbh I don't do those often. I usually do it once in the beginning for the sake of estabilishing what I think of each player, but then as the game moves and things happen I focus on those instead. I'll try to organize my thoughts tomorrow and see if...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:32 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

I'm gonna wait till tomorrow to answer that. I wanna read some isolated posts, but I'm sleepy. :D
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:29 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

G-Man, what I mean is, it's one thing for the host to give away the name of the role who used the ability that is appearing in the write-up. He did that on N1 for the Epi kill. But naming a role in the title of the write-up and posting a video about them is blatant role hinting, and good hosts don't...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:27 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

https://i.imgflip.com/m5hg5.jpg Nope. I think the invisible hand thing is just a coincidence. Hosts usually don't give hints like that. https://i.imgflip.com/m5htt.jpg Don't see how. I just don't think the Invisible Hand thing is relevant at all, whatever it could possibly mean. My theory was built...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

G-Man wrote:
Spoiler: show
Image
Nope. I think the invisible hand thing is just a coincidence. Hosts usually don't give hints like that.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:12 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

G-Man wrote:
Spoiler: show
Image
Then the name Adam Smith would've probably been mentioned in the write-up, like what happened when Epi was killed.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 8:05 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

i assumed adam smith was a standard redirector, as in s/he chose a player and changes their target from what they'd chosen. we cant know exactly if the mods would inform AS if the action was succesufl. you do see how you are reaching, right? if you think we should lynch bass you should find things ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 7:28 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Golden wrote:No, this is better, answer this one instead.

Does Adam Smith know whose power he is using each night?
Yeah that's pretty much the million dollar question.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 7:25 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

it does make sense that she was adam smith, but as far as i can tell she couldnt have been certain bass was scum. the op says "Sloonei - Killed Night 2 by John Maynard Keynes" and "Epignosis - Killed Night 1 by Adam Smith". adam smith, whether it is or not tinybubbles's role, on...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 7:16 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

One more thing, does mafia usually get to know the role of the one they killed in this forum? Might be relevant.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 7:13 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

it does make sense that she was adam smith, but as far as i can tell she couldnt have been certain bass was scum. the op says "Sloonei - Killed Night 2 by John Maynard Keynes" and "Epignosis - Killed Night 1 by Adam Smith". adam smith, whether it is or not tinybubbles's role, on...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 6:49 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

And before I go, RIP Bubbles. If my theory is right, that's one hell of a performance for a newcomer. And if it isn't, it was still a pleasure playing with you.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 6:47 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

And now that I notice the write-up is called "Invisible Hands". I doubt hosts would give away roles like this, but it's a big coincidence lol.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 6:42 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]

Well, this happened. And I think I know why. I hadn't said that before because I didn't want to tip mafia of her role, but I think TinyBubbles was Adam Smith. Why? Because of this: I would propose that if Adam Smith is still alive (hopefully he's not Metalmarsh), then he should try to build a case a...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 5:29 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Fair enough. I still think the possibility of you bussing BR is rather low.

But ragequitting won't do yourself any favors. If you go "just lynch me", we'll have to lynch you. You should stay here and keep discussing.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 4:47 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Still waiting for splints to answer this question I asked: One question I'd like splints to answer (if she already did, someone please point that out), is why she voted so early in the phase. A later vote could have provived her with more evidence and allowed her to help the BR bandwagon. Was there ...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 2:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

You are taking this game too personally, splints. Nobody is interesting in criticizing whether you played the game well or not, we're just interested in figuring out whether you got a PM saying you're mafia.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 2:21 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

I VERY highly encourage everyone to look through splints's posts in isolation, particularly Day 3, before voting tomorrow. They are incredibly telling. I really, really need to get homework done, so I'll be back tomorrow to almost certainly cast my vote for splints, assuming I survive the Night. I'...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 2:18 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=620&p=144753#p144753 last rainbow read by mp. fingersplints isnt one of the top suspects, i dont think the level of focus mp gave to fingersplints is comparable to what splints gave to br. i do understand what you mean, mp. i think befor...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 2:03 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

ITT: nobody has a exact, clear cut opinion on who their big suspect is and nobody lynches based on their exact suspect order.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 11:54 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Well, the way I see mafia would want to kill the players who are less likely to be lynched (and the two previous kills are consistent with that). So the people who are in danger of being killed are the ones who are being the most sucessful at convincing others they're town.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 11:06 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

To be fair there are a handful of players I could see having targets on their backs right now. That's a side effect of sucessfully lynching mafia.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thu May 28, 2015 9:07 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

DDL had a busy Day 1. he found time to talk about most players in the game and thankfully BR was no exception. in this post he doesn't really offer a lean on BR, but i won't fault him for that yet. on Day 1 BR was a tough read for most people myself included. the bit i highlighted in yellow interes...
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 27, 2015 8:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Also that "solo" in the middle of the song was amazing, MP.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 27, 2015 8:46 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

This is the most talkative G-Man has been in the entire game.
by Dragon D. Luffy
Wed May 27, 2015 8:28 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 177736

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Looking at the list of people who voted BR: JJJ and TH lead the discussion of BR in this phase. MP was taking part in the discussion and expressing the possibility of lynching BR. He seemed to be on the fence, and was more willing to vote for aether for a while, but later he decided to vote BR. G-Ma...

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