The Syndicate

I almost voted Sloonei for the sockys because of this game until I remembered we're already in 2020 so Iit will have to wait another year.

Love when my Day 1 hunches are right.

Also love that I've read LC succesfully 2 consecutive games. Hope that is a trend.

Thanks for the game, G-man!

Also I apologize that I've been a dick to a few people during this game. I guess I was burnout from the previous game and not really feeling this one so I kept lashing out at other players. But you guys are all great.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:55 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:53 pm
Night 4:
-sig blocks Sloonei.
-The Mafia fail to submit a kill request before the deadline.

I understand now, sig

And when that failed and you caught TSP, Sig moved on to believing all missed NKs are from missed deadlines, even though he did catch LC.

Ok heres the deal Sloonei's analysis on Mac is fantastic and I agree Mac looks terrible re:TSP.

Also following Sloonei has been the default winning strategy in this game.

But LC is my Day 1 suspect. It's destiny, man.

And the day I decide to silence my gut to just obey what the town leader said you can delete my TS account.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:57 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:45 pm Very nice! Great to still see you around, Mr Sloon. I was afraid it would go quiet after tonight.

Translation:

"Fucking damn it! What the hell?

I thought the same.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:10 am I too wondered how I did "most of the work." I don't even know what work I did.

I want to highlight this for another reason. See the ugliness.

I didn't fully understand what "most of the work" means either but it looked to me like a baddie pissed that civilians were discarding other civilians as possible suspects.

I don't think I'll vote for you today.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:08 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:54 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:18 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:18 am He'll I'm just trying to play a game in chill mode. I enjoy it. Don't force me to be normal Mac. He sucks.

That's the thing though, you are the low activity version of normal mac, who had all the attitude but none of the game-awareness to back it up.

That said, you have a point that I'm probably wasting time arguing with you. I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all.

So, Mac is a Civilian in your eyes?

Not sure.

Just that "I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all." doesn't really make sense if you are considering he could be bad, only if you know he's Civ.

"Leave you alone" means I'll stop arguing about the thing I have been arguing.

Doesn't mean I'll stop judging his alignment.

That said I do lean town on him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:18 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:18 am He'll I'm just trying to play a game in chill mode. I enjoy it. Don't force me to be normal Mac. He sucks.

That's the thing though, you are the low activity version of normal mac, who had all the attitude but none of the game-awareness to back it up.

That said, you have a point that I'm probably wasting time arguing with you. I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all.

So, Mac is a Civilian in your eyes?

Not sure.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:59 pm I'd also eye ddl a but since his push for inactive now seems totally wrong

Hindsight is amazing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:18 am He'll I'm just trying to play a game in chill mode. I enjoy it. Don't force me to be normal Mac. He sucks.

That's the thing though, you are the low activity version of normal mac, who had all the attitude but none of the game-awareness to back it up.

That said, you have a point that I'm probably wasting time arguing with you. I'll leave you alone. Maybe your thing works after all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:07 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:54 am I still think Sloonei has teammate equity with Tony. Even DDL had them as compatible at one point. Nothing that happened here can't be explained as distancing/bussing.

I'd lynch DDL first. If the game isn't over and one of Sloonei/Epi is alive they die.

If Sloonei lives tonight he is an autolynch. Scum kill him if civ. My doubts aren't enough to modify this need. Even I wouldn't leave him alive tonight if I had the bullet.

It's like you are just that crazy guy we should ignore because you don't know what you are talking about.

Sloonei can't possibly be scum.

Man stop being such a dick lol.

I'm sorry but you have basically spent all game ignoring what people say, not wanting to learn what is going on and pretending you have a better grasp than everyone else.

You just quoted a post from me speculating on the people who voted for Creature, and instead of researching to see what it was about or reading some of the dozens of pages of discussion on the Creature lynch, you moved straight to accusing me without even looking at the Creature lynch yourself. And nobody is going to care about that post because everyone else knows what the context is, only you don't. So you are just spamming the thread with busywork.

It's okay if you don't have the time to read everyhing but then you can't keep your playstyle of bossing people around with the little you know. It's annoying. I have to wake up in the morning with 3 notifications from someone who is not playing the same game I'm playing, and doesn't want to.

Ok maybe it's unfair from me to say you are not reading the game "on purpose". You should really be busy irl.

But the problem is that you are completely clueless and yet pretending you have the whole hame solved. And because of that your posts amount to just spam.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:54 am I still think Sloonei has teammate equity with Tony. Even DDL had them as compatible at one point. Nothing that happened here can't be explained as distancing/bussing.

I'd lynch DDL first. If the game isn't over and one of Sloonei/Epi is alive they die.

If Sloonei lives tonight he is an autolynch. Scum kill him if civ. My doubts aren't enough to modify this need. Even I wouldn't leave him alive tonight if I had the bullet.

It's like you are just that crazy guy we should ignore because you don't know what you are talking about.

Sloonei can't possibly be scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:08 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:44 pm Okay reads from up to the lynch post

Dizzy and Quin are town as fuck.

Dizzy mostly for the creature thing, Quin for posts too. He's legit genuquin. Protect him.

Sloonei a little less since he was flopping around like Sloonei (while Dizzy and Quin pushed the idea if lynching Creature more strongly), but he still started the final push so I feel like he's town too. Also he does feel a bit more genuine than in the wire but that's hindsight speaking since he fooled me in that game. Sloonei will have to do more to earn my trust from now on. But he gets it for the time being.

Timmer is the member if the Day 1 Mutant Ninja Turtles who benefits the least for this Creature lynch imo. He kind of just went along after the fact. That said he leans a bit civ in post-based reading I guess. Could be wrong here.

Nobody else matters much here since they aren't turtles. Will talk about others later.

Everyone mentioned here except Sloonei is dead. Cool to know all the people DDL thought were uber town (plus someone else he waffled on) became scum kill choices.

And again, you show that you are not reading this game on purpose.

That post was to discuss the town status of the 4 people who were on the Creature lynch. Which everyone and their dog agreed were confirmed town.

I liek Sloonei's TSP case.

Not much to add. He laid down the truths and the analyses and it made sense. The point about TSP not mentioning previous suspicions on Sloonei is a bit debatable because people civs change their minds all the time, but if you add all the other points TSP looks pretty shady.

I wasn't 100% convinced about it but it did make me feel pretty good about Sloon himself.

Anyway, [VOTE: Tony] aubergine

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

At least Mac is posting, even if he's just meme'ing instead of playing.

There is a huge chance mafia missed a kill last night and this doesn't say good about Wilgy.

And before anyone asks I know there could be more than 3 mafia total but in this setup it's very unlikely and probably too scumsided.

Then again the same thing happened to Sloonei last game. But they had 3 mafias alive at that point, not 2. This would be a huge risk to do now.

TSP and Sloonei being teammates is impossible unless they were seriously trying to make Sloonei die yesterday.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:54 am TSP and Sloonei are the wolves. They're cross voting in case the Sloonei wagon sticks.

After I moved my vote there were about 30 seconds left in the poll. Are you arguing they coordinated during that time to move a vote to Sloon, risk his life, then have Sloon move his vote to me?

And if they didn't coordinate, then why the hell did TSP make such a move to Sloon?

Why don't you just admit you aren't reading anything, not even recent posts? Will make it less annoying to deal with you.

In case the wind is silent I think I wanna lynch one of mac or wilgy.

I guess we need to play the lottery sooner or later.

Not sure how I feel about Sloon's TSP theory.

But TSP's Sloon theory is pretty meh. It makes sense for him to have waited till after the abilities lock. If anything it denies mafia a chance to control the wifom narrative.

So either there is a blocker in town or mafia forgot to kill.

With two mafia left that is unlikely, but I wouldn't consider it impossible. Makes the chance one of those is wilgy huge since it's easier to justify one other player who came at night but didn't bother to send actions, than two players. Also that person would be used not to wsit for wilgy at this point.

But the blocker theory is also very viable, and in this case I have no idea. Maybe we hear a whisper from the wind or something.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:09 pm I also really really don't like that TSP was around and let it stay tied.

That is wrong, by the way. TSP broke the tie. Sloon tied it again to save himself. The poll closed less than 30 sec after that so nobody was able to "let" anything about it.

To be fair the way he suddenly moved to Michelle was weird.

Sloon if you get NK'd before you finish explaining your theory I'll come for revenge next game.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:04 pm I kinda wanna lynch DDL/Sloonie both now.

We should lynch neither of us!

I get saving yourself, but at the same time forcing a no lynch? I'm not a fan of that at all especially given our gamestate.

Are you a fan of dropping a vote on me and never coming back? Because it's rich that you do that and then complain we tried to avoid being lynched.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:57 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:03 pm My thoughts now:

Epi claimed to be busy... meh
DrW dissapeard, scum lean
Mac is talking little, idk
Sloonei is pinging everyone doesn't give scum vibes.
DDL i did 't like a post let me search it is in last 50

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:35 am

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:12 pm Vote: Epi

Epi was integral to the Dom lynch and at least voted for Nova. The “Epi isn’t doing anything” narrative misses that Epi has had just as much direction as almost anyone else.

I hate this logic. Being in town lynches correlates very little with actually being scum.

That said, this fact is giving me pause about jumping on the Sloonei wagon, because it would be the third consecutive time I followed an Epi case. If Epi is bad he's playing me 3 times.

But I'm itching to break Sloonei just to see what's inside.

so not because he is scum but from curiosity? nagl

TSP i just like the vibe
Long Con idk

This is stupid. That post was obviously jest.

I'm not going to come here and outright say "I don't want to lynch scum" if I'm scum. I didn't start playing mafia yesterday.

i didn't want to be stupid, sorry if I was..
i started to play one year ago and i played around 60-70 games. I am not a noob but not like someone who played for years.

Ok sorry if I offended you, I just got annoyed because you thought I had just came here and admitted to be scum.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:58 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:18 am Sig, Michelle, LC. And Mac. And Wilgy for not voting at all.

Calling it now, the scum are in there.

I didn't get any bad vibes from the people I interacted with last night. It felt like a group of covs trying to clean the shit left by the rest.

except we can't interarct if i am sleeping.
Eod is at 4 am and it was impossible to wake up
You shade me indirectly and this is nagl

Fair enough, I didn't know that.

Either way he's pretty much open wolfing.

I'll be pretty pissed if mafia ends up being something like Mac/Wilgy and they win.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:44 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:02 pm If TSP is bad, he stopped the lynch when he could have let Sloonei die. If TSP is bad, Sloonei is most likely bad.

Yeah they're both scum

Why do you have to troll on day 5?

Sig, Michelle, LC. And Mac. And Wilgy for not voting at all.

Calling it now, the scum are in there.

I didn't get any bad vibes from the people I interacted with last night. It felt like a group of covs trying to clean the shit left by the rest.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:00 am Someone should have made someone die.

I take this upon myself. It won't happen again. Is it Day?

Somebody dies. No excuses.

I voted to save myself.

Sloonei voted to save himself.

The rest of the people, besides TSP, started huge wagons on two of the most active posters, left for the rest of the day and let those two active posters to decide the lynch. And TSP didn't want to lynch me so he voted for Sloon.

Granted, from a townie TSP's point of view it would be better to lynch me than not lynch at all, but I know I'm a civ so meh.

In the end, what happened yesterday was the best possible outcome considering who was online and what the poll was.

Who deserves shit are the people who jumped on the obvious wagons and dipped. The explanations they made for those votes should be scrutinized.

It's midnight and I'm on phone sorry.

Wrong*

Actually the early part of my analysis is still ar ng because TSP was voting for Epi when I came online.

But this does not invalidade the point about Sloon and TSP not being teammates.

After my announced Sloonei vote, I went offline. When I came back, this was the poll:

DDL - 3
Epi - 1
Sloonei - 4

At this point it was obvious to me Sloonei would.vote for me eventually. Jumping on Epi would have made this a 3-2-3 so I didn't see the point.

Then TSP votes Michelle. This is the poll now:

DDL - 3
Epi - 1
Michelle - 1
Sloonei - 3

I jump on Michelle. This is the poll now:

DDL - 3
Epi - 1
Michelle - 2
Sloonei - 2

Then I realize nobody is following us on michelle and I'm gonna die. I vote sloon back.

DDL - 3
Epi - 1
Michelle - 1
Sloonei - 3

TSP immediately voted for sloonei. The poll is about 30s from locking when he does it. I'm assuming teammate communication is impossible here. But he sees me voting and changes back to sloon.

If TSP is bad, he went after sloon when he could have frozen the poll. He also risked sloon missing the deadlone and dieing.

So this is the real conclusion: they can't be teammates.

Now this is the poll:

DDL - 3
Epi - 1
Sloonei - 4

Sloon self preserves and the poll ends with the 4-4 I predicted from the start.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:06 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:04 pm Ok ignore my last post

No. Why did you post that?

Because I'm dumb and made a wrong assessmemt of what happened.

Give me a few minutes.

Ok ignore my last post

If TSP is bad, he stopped the lynch when he could have let Sloonei die. If TSP is bad, Sloonei is most likely bad.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:12 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:09 pm I saw a vote by TSP on michelle and followed it. Then I realized I was gonna die and moved back to Sloon

Why were you willing to follow Tony himself to Michelle, but not Tony & Sloonei together to Epignosis?

The Epi lynch was a no-lynch.

I guess the Michelle one was too, but there was very little time to think. I saw something close to by CFD proposal and seized the monent. Then I saw I was about to die and jumped back.

Yeah I risked you. Don't care.

Welp, NL it is.

I guess that's what happens when all the people online are in the lynching block.

I saw a vote by TSP on michelle and followed it. Then I realized I was gonna die and moved back to Sloon

If I vote epi its a NL and that sucks

I mean I actually agree the people juping on me are shady af and hes the worst of the bunch imo

CFD on LC?

Yeah I'm being an hypocrite about CFDs but whatever sorry not sorry.

I don't feel like voting Epi.

I also think Sloonei was calling epi civ based on a "tell"... yesterday? So wtf?

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

No lynch sucks but I need to save myself.

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] your vote is the tiebreaker