The Syndicate

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:56 am Catching up was fun until you all stopped talking about me. I'm going to stop and just assume Mac and NAA are voting me for no reason because it's them. I can see Alison's quoted on this page.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:02 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:00 pm nobody has any thoughts on this?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:02 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:46 pm Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"

- treatment of alison is wolfy - opens saying he wants to sheep her while not yet having a read on her then v reads her for a weak reason that doesn’t really apply to her and makes no effort engage with/understand the suspicion surrounding her i.e. what villagers do when someone they v read is getting wolf read a ton. just don’t see any critical thought or drive to figure things out in his treatment of her and it reads more like he’s just trying to ingratiate himself to her.

- treatment of his nonconsensus suspects is wolfy - keeps throwing you out as a wolf read but does nothing about it. again, not what villagers do when someone they wolf read is getting widely v read. i think at one point he even threw out you/jay/dizzy as his suspects and you’re all being cleared pretty much, meaning from his pov town’s consensus is way off, yet i don’t see any of the concern in his posts that villagers have when they think everything is upside down.

- i find his treatment of me wolfy too but obviously biased there. just don’t feel like he’s been trying to solve me in a good faith way.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:06 pm also he and nanook know each other well afaik + nanook has been getting a lot of heat, but NAA has largely ignored him i think

i dunno, just not feeling the villager in the way he’s approaching anything but i’ve never played with him so maybe i’m backwards here

Never seen scum NAA either so dunno, but I did read it over earlier and didn't have anything to counter it, just so you know your hard work didn't go to waste.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:04 pm I found it easy to misread Axey first time I played with him though. So like your second point of not seeing concern in his posts does feel normal for him imo.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:17 pm Here is my advice on what to do. First, eliminate Alison so that I won't die today.

If Alison flips scum, then eliminate Mac. If Mac is town, then eliminate Dizzy and Wilgy, in that order.

If Alison flips town, then eliminate me. I will flip town, whereupon which you should eliminate NAA and Wilgy.

I have about a 60% confidence that this solve wins the game. This may not seem like a lot of confidence, but it's actually quite a lot if you think about what I am proposing.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 pm [VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Omgus

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:14 pm My wagon has the two most stale votes.

Like I guess Axe moved his briefly to put Alison at 5 or whatever happened, but seeing as he then went back to me that barely counts.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:23 pm Imagine it's Alison/NAA and both wolves have sat on my wagon for the bulk of the Day.

The fun thing about always being LHF is being bait.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:43 pm What if the crowd of Jay, Hally, Dizzy, C4, Marmot, and I all rank Alison, NAA, Mac in preferred order and then find the average score to decide who dies.

(In this plan Wilgy and NAA are NPCs.)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:44 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:43 pm What if the crowd of Jay, Hally, Dizzy, C4, Marmot, and I all rank Alison, NAA, Mac in preferred order and then find the average score to decide who dies.

(In this plan Wilgy and NAA are NPCs.)

*Nook, not NAA, for that last sentence.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:52 pm Alison > NAA > Mac > Nook

Not sure I'm ready for a Wilgy yeet at this stage.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:15 pm So I can have some light reading on my bus ride home, why was NAA's EoD villagery?

I dont even know what to feel about him, I just don't really get why he's now a town read.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:33 pm [VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Okay.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

You're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.

But why is there a difference check?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:04 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

You're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.

But why is there a difference check?

Because likely only one of you can be mafia... And at least one of you MUST be mafia.

But


and hear me out here


why?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:04 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:14 pm And what's your reasoning for me being scummy?

You should have argued with the ghost before she became a ghost.

Alison had a case. A poor one, but a case.

What's yours?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:27 pm Like I mostly am trying to get a read on NAA in return by understanding him. I don't intend to defend myself point by point or anything.

But like... Jay. Wtf.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:59 am So, MasterRadishes is mafia right, when are yall moving onto this wagon?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:42 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 pm Can you talk more about why MR is scum?

Baaaaaaaaaaah

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:45 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:44 pm [VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Don't be foolish, we can sheep Alison together.

It won't work. My vote for alison isn't sheeping.

Oh, I meant sheep Alison on her MR read.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:06 pm I would also kill MR. MR or dizzy best chances of hitting mafia

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:13 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:11 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:06 pm I would also kill MR. MR or dizzy best chances of hitting mafia

I know you're not the explaining type, but it would be valuable to me if you could just expand this by like one more sentence.

MR see Alison

Dizzy see voting history - idgi, it seems like the objective was to always vote Alison and to appear to be doing other things throughout the day.

That is all

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm Kill MR if Mafia - > Nanook

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm Kill MR if Town -> Dizzy if Mafia -> Mac

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

You're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

You're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.

But why is there a difference check?

Because likely only one of you can be mafia... And at least one of you MUST be mafia.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:45 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:14 pm And what's your reasoning for me being scummy?

You should have argued with the ghost before she became a ghost.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:53 pm I ship the Radish and Jimmay town core.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm I change my mind. Hally could be town.

With Jimmay, c4 and probably possibly Radish.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm Mac is probably town tbh
Add Hally, c4, Marmot and Radish. YES RADISH

Towncoreville wow

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

Uh. So you expect scum to openly hammer MR of he’s town? Seems dumb, to be frank. What if one or two are already on him?

Why is it either or. His wagon is pretty meh in any case. There’s plenty of time left in the day. Nobody expects a sudden hammer.

I don’t get and actually don’t buy that this is something you’re actually thinking about in this manner.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:28 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:31 pm Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
c4e5g3d5, Alison, MacDougall, NotAnAxehole

I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?

If MR is red, Mac is probably more likely wolf lol. But MR is town anyways so waheveh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:55 pm Town:
Marmot
c4
Wilgy
Hally
MR

Everyone else should get townier if they are town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:18 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:15 am Wilgy is obviously town who next, Alison?

I don't think he is

I re-read MR though and some stuff pings me (specifically the flat-sounding attempt to sound like an egoistical townie angry that people are assuming they're out of their scum range, and the repetition of "witty opening post" making for a kinda stilted entrance). So I [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine.

Orange just reads like such bs.

This is the post in question:

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:47 pm Screw you I can be mafia still

Which is an obvious joke. I don't think town!Alison reads this as a "flat-sounding attempt to sound like an egotistical towny angry that people are assuming they're out of their scum range". Too many words anyway.

Alison was super awkward in the spat with Hally as well. And the "never mind I town read you now" is classic Wolfison.

So I think I'm just going to tunnel here until she be dedded.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:52 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:36 am I have just eaten a pot of Samyang noodles. My sinuses are clear and my brain is tired. I have read up.

- Mac's re-entrance into the thread does not spark joy. He appears to be generating chaos for the sake of it when I think he would approach the gamestate in a more orderly fashion if his reads were as he claims they were. Specifically, if he townreads me and sees me in danger of receiving a guillotine to the neck, I believe he would not be doing things like, eg. "voting c4 for science". I'm scratching my head why he (presumably) townreads me over the "rock apes" mindmeld. Surely I'd be frustrated at having a read confidence misrepped as either alignment.

- I still do not want to vote Mac off today. My reasoning remains the same.

- I have seen NAA's argument that JJJ is most likely to be the scum voting me. I definitely think I am being pushed by scum. Radish and Dizzy are more likely than JJJ, though. I tend to think that JJJ is the kind of townie that ramps up the townieness over time. If he is town, he will show that townieness in a brilliant dazzle as time goes on until it is undeniable to everyone and he becomes universally townread. If it is later in the game and he still hasn't ramped up, then maybe scrutinize him then. I have other leads to pursue in the meantime.

- I think Wilgy is town now. Gut read. Believe it or don't.

- Nanook takes Wilgy's place of suspicion in the POE for trying to hammer me. I had Wilgy paired with Axe specifically because Axe seemed willing to sheep my push on anyone but him, but I don't think Nanook and Axe read as strongly paired. They could be partners, it's not out of the question, but it's not an association I think is significantly more likely than Nanook + other person or Axe + other person. I think in this updated solve I'd throw Nanook in as a wild card replacement of one of Radish/Mac if I'm wrong on them. Radish/Mac/Dizzy/Nanook are floating around in some kind of scummy stew. I think there's two mafia in there and the most likely exact pair is Radish/Mac but I wouldn't be shocked to see any of the others in one of the slots. Axe is less scummy than the four of them especially given his hard Alison siding and the fact that the person I partnered him with now reads as town to me. He is 5th in the POE.

Good night.

I'm also unenthused by Mac.

I also think Wilgy is town.

Problem is, your solve just seems weak and bad to me. I took issue with your reasons for scum reading MR, because they just seem like made up bs, as I said, prescribing tons meaning into a simple joke. You never addressed this, and I would like you to. Your tag-on that I'm scum for "not doing anything" is bad as well. I have certainly done a lot. I have 5 town reads (that might change lol) and I am straight up accusing you for specific reasons. Me "doing anything" is not even a reliable way to read me. However, I'm not one to get up in your face and "open wolf" or whatever you think I would be doing here as wolf. I don't know. Maybe you're omgusing a bit or whatever, but I find your read on both me and MR particularly weak at a level I don't expect from you as town. Even if you are town and MR is mafia, I find your MR read weak.

So that just makes it hard to believe that you have such confidence in this.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:59 am At the same time, MR is not a particularly strong read of mine either way

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:29 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:58 am @Alison Of you town read Wilgy, I expect you to describe meaning to me trying to town clear them when Hally and Jimmay were voting Wilgy. Other people were able to. Unless you’re just not paying attention. My biggest issue, again, is your solve doesn’t have substance or the substance is weak/bad like in the case of MR

I should add that my reads aren't really that different to yours tbh.

c4/Marmot - shocked if mafia.
Hally - not shocked if mafia at all actually, but I still town read.
Wilgy - town just get with it
Jimmay - I actually just need someone to convince me one way or another, cause it's a mixed bag
Nanook - Shrug
NAA - Shrug
Mac - Playing some sour notes
Alison - Why is your reasoning for your reads on me and MR in particular so extremely bad
MR - Actually should do a lot more things

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:31 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:22 pm Name 6 townies not including yourself. Get it right and you win the game. Anyone fancy a try?

c4
marmot
dizzy
you

honestly not sure who else, but maybe radishy because he’s my mason

I'll sheep your Jimmay read if you sheep my Wilgy and Radish reads. You won't regret it. BOX THEM IN

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:52 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:51 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:49 pm I am unconvinced that Alison is this convinced about me.

same

it just reads like she picked a random lhf villager to try to ram through and inflated her confidence in it to hide that there’s no substance to her push

You guys are talking like I am deathtunnelling Radish.

No. You are kind of talking like you are, while at the same time not doing it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:49 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:46 am Why would I want to do more things

With a face like yours? No, you’re right. Just sit and look pretty

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:35 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:15 am That's an invitation for someone to say 'ah you see MR, C4 is lock town because...'

Just a lot of self reflective reacting to [situations] in a way I think would be hard to fake as scum. He just writes from a very towny perspective. Which fits with what I know of his town game, and I don't think he's as good at it as mafia. I'm ready to be fooled, but it's enough for me to just say he's town tbh.

Maybe this is abstract, but too lazy to find examples. It's basically a constant.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:28 pm Is it allowed to be annoyed and impatient about the amount and jokes MR makes as well?

I feel I should have some kind of grievance with most everyone

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:42 pm I wish MR was townier or scummier

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:59 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:17 pm Here is my advice on what to do. First, eliminate Alison so that I won't die today.

If Alison flips scum, then eliminate Mac. If Mac is town, then eliminate Dizzy and Wilgy, in that order.

If Alison flips town, then eliminate me. I will flip town, whereupon which you should eliminate NAA and Wilgy.

I have about a 60% confidence that this solve wins the game. This may not seem like a lot of confidence, but it's actually quite a lot if you think about what I am proposing.

You're a terrible person thank god you're pretty

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:21 pm Gonna vote MR now because Alison is a better being and I don’t want us to seem teamed

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:22 pm MR can be mafia. He just sat and watched this happen.

To be fair, he already said bye didn’t he?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm I don’t really believe MR is mafia though, which is a problem. But he has been overdoing the I don’t care I’m joking haha play style, and it’s getting super tired

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm I don’t really believe MR is mafia though, which is a problem. But he has been overdoing the I don’t care I’m joking haha play style, and it’s getting super tired

But I could say this about myself as well lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:11 pm MR is quite towny here actually.

I'm a little bit tired of Jimmay saying "Do stuff, solve the game, I can only read you by that", cause I don't really think that's true.
I had half the thought that I've only really seen Jimmay solve patiently with PoE and wanting to hear people out even if he suspects them, so this smack smack bang is a change of pace. This is not really an accusation, but

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:33 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:32 pm Jay, what do you expect when you look for scum Radish?

(I promise not to be offended by anything you say.)

Naughty, naughty badness.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:38 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:37 pm If anyone else wants to comment on scum Radish feel free.

I already did. But you're too wrapped up in your mafia rand to flirt with me >: (

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm Anyway I just mainly like people talking about me.


If you want to know why I'm not a wolf here it's (a) I've not tried harder to (fake) solve and (b) my general comfort level talking directly to people (instead of around/about them) and (c) I've not made a TMI slip (which I do at least once per wolf rand).

TMI that you're not wolf counts as TMI.

Gottem

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:04 pm No. I think Radish is town. I'm the Radish friend.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:43 pm What if the crowd of Jay, Hally, Dizzy, C4, Marmot, and I all rank Alison, NAA, Mac in preferred order and then find the average score to decide who dies.

(In this plan Wilgy and NAA are NPCs.)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:57 pm Like Dizzy I need to go sleep. My vote is back on Alison in spirit.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:10 am These are nothing more than feelings, but I'd be fine with calling Hally and Marmot town, and probably Jay, Dizzy, and C4 too. I respect all their ranges but the first two have had moments where I sensed genuinity and the latter three it's more of an overall vibe.

I dont have anything specifically bad to say about most of the others, just that I've seen nothing I consider good enough to raise up beyond neutrality.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:48 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:44 pm Why do we actually town read Hally again? I've already forgotten.

They're my mason.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:28 pm Is it allowed to be annoyed and impatient about the amount and jokes MR makes as well?

I feel I should have some kind of grievance with most everyone

Yes that's allowed.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:53 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:42 pm I wish MR was townier or scummier

Me too.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm I don’t really believe MR is mafia though, which is a problem. But he has been overdoing the I don’t care I’m joking haha play style, and it’s getting super tired

I'm not overdoing anything. I don't like playing D1s, am busy with work as usual, and am phone posting because my laptop is dead and I'm waiting for a new one. I'm keeping up but will not be taking any sort of lead.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:38 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:37 pm If anyone else wants to comment on scum Radish feel free.

I already did. But you're too wrapped up in your mafia rand to flirt with me >: (

I'm busy trying to make Jay realise he doesn't actually know my scum meta and is therefore reading me wrong.



Also with setting up my new laptop so I can play fucking properly finally.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:50 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:45 pm Anyway I just mainly like people talking about me.


If you want to know why I'm not a wolf here it's (a) I've not tried harder to (fake) solve and (b) my general comfort level talking directly to people (instead of around/about them) and (c) I've not made a TMI slip (which I do at least once per wolf rand).

TMI that you're not wolf counts as TMI.

Gottem

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:35 pm dizzy i really have no idea what your issue with me this game is

or just like your issue with everything in general even

You wouldn’t buy Alison’s trick as town. You are hesitant in making points that advance town. I just think it’s a decent chance you’re mafia, and I’m not going to get into a discussion about it with you. We can talk about other things.

Hopefully I get to read the game again during this day phase.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

that isn't helping my point right now

But it’s true. Don’t really thing Jay is mafia. But what I think isn’t likely to be worth much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm Furthermore I will add that nobody outright attacking me (the way Jay and Hally have done right now) d1 is a strong indicator that it's because I was pushing an incorrect POE and wasn't being a threat. Jay and Hally at multiple points exhibited TMI that I was town.

You were pushed a decent deal for a d1. You’re not making convincing points tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:50 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:35 pm dizzy i really have no idea what your issue with me this game is

or just like your issue with everything in general even

You wouldn’t buy Alison’s trick as town. You are hesitant in making points that advance town. I just think it’s a decent chance you’re mafia, and I’m not going to get into a discussion about it with you. We can talk about other things.

Hopefully I get to read the game again during this day phase.

why would i ever think alison would troll there? she’s like the least trolly person on the planet

i was actually kinda shocked she made that post when she flipped villager

I watched it in real time and was almost positive she was lying. It’s well within her wheelhouse.

Oh well. My brain wants to tunnel you so

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:51 pm Jimmay is town though. No more paranoia there for me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:53 pm This is chaos and I’m adding to it. I love that for us.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm I've never, in admittedly more limited than you might expect experience, seen Jay treat someone the way he's treating Mac now. I find it interesting and probably alignment indicative.

It's been a long time perhaps, but roasting Mac is an old tradition (and one he is ridiculous to pretend never happens). He and Epignosis are the most common targets for my more... animated aggression.

It’s kind of hawt tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Didn’t you just spend the last pages declaring how Jimmay and Hally are teammates.

You can calm down with the open wolfing now lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm In the triangle of Dyslexicon, Hally and Jay there are always two mafia.

So it’s me and Jay, since you just cleared Hally from derps?

Like… are you derp clearing lock towning Hally, or are you accusing them? Cause that seems the tiniest fraction unclear

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Why am I town now?

I never scum read you.

I was asking Mac why he’s clearing Hally for reacting to Alison’s lies, but not you.

Of course, nobody should be cleared off of that, as mafia isn’t going to let it be known that it is a lie.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

Your yammering makes zero sense to me. Sorryboutit.

You’re accusing Hally and clearing Hally on breathing in and out.

Or I just don’t get it.

And I believe that if there’s scum between j/hally, it’s likelier to be hally.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:15 pm But I am very much amused, yes.

Can’t tell if this is a disaster or will be productive at some point.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:17 pm Wild as it seems, Mac still could be town.

Oh wow, how amazing and interesting!

I will return later. Game game game

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm Axe is gonna be the Mario that saves me, I can feel it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:24 pm I don't find Nanook's entrance particularly suspicious.

This is a little wack

My entrance was actually super townie but only axe and mac are gonna recognize it lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:07 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what’s your read on NAA? thoughts on my concerns above?

Dunno, not caught up

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

I think dizzy at least is likely town, and her other pushes that I've seen are some combo of me/mac/wilgy, so like...I think at most one mafia in those four and radishes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:23 pm Anyways there's probably one in jay/mac/axe but not both, and one somewhere else

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:17 pm I know axe well but I have never claimed a god read on him

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:20 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:19 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:17 pm I know axe well but I have never claimed a god read on him

I don’t need a god read. I need any read.

Null, he's basically rand to me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:55 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:22 pm I think Nanook can only read me when I town tell very hard.

Pretty much yeah

Occasionally off associative stuff with partners

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:59 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:55 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:22 pm I think Nanook can only read me when I town tell very hard.

Pretty much yeah

Occasionally off associative stuff with partners

What if I were to tell you that NAA has town told very hard in this very game?

Id say I don't believe you

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:26 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME any town reads apart from Wilgy and Mac?

Hally


mac is a conditional town read, I think there's one between you him and axe but not more than one

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:40 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:37 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:36 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 am mac is a conditional town read, I think there's one between you him and axe but not more than one

One town between us or one mafia?

One mafia

So would it be accurate for me to say that you currently believe the mafia team to be c4 + Mac/NAA/Jay?

Believe is a strong word

I believe it has the highest probability at this point in time, sure

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:31 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, NAA has made 99 posts. Must be something readable in there, eh?

Yeah probably

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:49 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm 145 posts LiTeRaLlY uNrEaDaBlE

what’s the villageriest thing you’ve posted iyo?

Idk, I dont have to evaluate myself lol. I think I'm broadly in my town meta but idk that there's one specific thing that clears me. Maybe my entrance wrt mac and Jay or not forcing a read on axe, but

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:11 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME would you say it is typical for NAA to suspect you when you are town and/or when you feel that you are playing within your town meta?

Yeah I think so

Although he should actually have me town here if he looks at my entrance, but

It's not really outing for him to incorrectly push me afaik

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:36 pm Fuck's sake

Kill c4, find the mafia in jay/axe/dizzy/mac, gg

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:45 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:41 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm I am the beloved princess so Nanook must be mafia.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

i actually think this could be w/w

alison slaps this vote down when mac brings up nook being wolfy and then it doesn’t really go anywhere and she moves on to NAA and wilgy

I might be convinced of this narrative. I don't necessarily think Nanook would be the partner though. I also more or less Alison to vote me at EoD based on how things have gone so far.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:26 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 am i thought alison did get to 6

NAA voted her to put her at L-1 (i think) and then nook voted her

unless someone silently unvoted during that time?

Nook was already voting.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm I'm aware that isn't helpful lol

Well, it's understandable at the least.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:04 pm For me, kill order is MR, Dizzy, Nanook.

If scum is outside of that... Well, mistakes were made.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:22 pm I think Nanook can only read me when I town tell very hard.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:35 pm Kill MR, Dizzy, Nanook... The order doesn't matter. Killing Alison D1 was a travesty.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.

There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.

There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.

If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm Kill MR if Mafia - > Nanook

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:45 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

What technicality soz?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:29 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:28 pm I don't have a good reason to call NAA town. I kind of "feel" it, I think tangentially just by way of seeing Mac town read him and sensing that it's grounded. He's an alternate for the POE perhaps.

he said something good lemme find it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm correction naa's entire iso is townie

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:46 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:49 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:47 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:39 pm c4 going against the grain on MR and making that catch on him is the villageriest thing itt so far

can i help you?

Probably not, I think you're mafia proxy Alison and I don't understand the point of this read on C4 / it almost seems like TMI for the sake of pocketing.

this read is pretty townie

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:22 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:08 pm I vaguely understand Dizzy's read on Wilgy. I am not sure I agree with it, but I get it.

I don't understand Mac's read on NAA.

my read on him is being completely overstated and dwelled upon far too much, it was an early game read on a person with 9 posts dude.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:35 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:27 pm The following are reads. The categories are reads. The categories aren't ordered so it's not like a rainbow list, k

Having a good time on the highway into town
c4
Dizzy
MR
Town reads

Having a good time, but maybe driving the wrong way
Nanook
Mac
Dunno but gun to my head, town

Driving cautiously, both blinkers activated
Alison
Hally
Dunno kinda iffy

Stopped in the right lane at a red light preventing people from turning right behind him
NAA
"suspicious" I guess

Haven't hit the road yet
DrWilgy
Marmot
Eagerly awaiting

I decided to rainbow them so people know what the hell I am talking about

#shouldhavestayedinretirement

I'm good with sheeping Alison and see where it goes.

this post is townie because if axe is mafia and alison is town he's placing himself in a bad situation and if they are mafia together he's openly siding with alison which is just weird

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

this post is townie because he has made no effort to product a townie post on request

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:45 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

why do your reads strike me as fake?

A lack of understanding + I haven't actually seriously evaluated.

Combination.

see above explanation

tl;dr he feels like he's just being straightforward in a game in which he's not really motivated to push very hard the end

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:51 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:49 am nobody has even made that big a deal of your NAA read? idk why you’re so hung up on that

multiple people have been like "weird read on axe" over and over and this is not exactly a game with a lot of content so as it pertains to things relevant to me it's quite prominent

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am Mac, you don't have to have a thorough, developed explanation for your NAA read. I simply don't get it. That doesn't mean you're wrong or that you're mafia. I see the post below, interpret some measure of confidence from it (by way of the "entire iso" being referenced), and I don't really follow it. If you've nothing to expand on about it then you've nothing to expand on about it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm correction naa's entire iso is townie

and so is your face

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm I am glad we're in a game with the likes of Wilgy, MR, NAA and Nook cuz I'm confident they're at least all allergic to your bs.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:10 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:07 pm jay’s trademark is D1 blind interaction charts

you are literally just making stuff up

Well no I just have zero recollection of him ever doing that and I am pretty confident that he doesn't believe that day 1 interactions are very valid.

Going back to the original point. Try to read this post with a clear head.

Jay said that he had you, Alison and NAA in his day 1 POE, of players that have made posts. He said you can't be with the other two so he ruled you out. Implying that anti-associations with those players are enough to rule you out. But then he added back in two players that were low posting in Wilgy and Marmot to his POE and didn't add you back in. Read this carefully. If those two can be POE, why can't you be POE? It doesn't make sense. His read on you has agenda.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:19 pm mac, jay and i are both town

who are the wolves?

Can be anyone really can't it.

That said. I have some problems with the day 1 gamestate that have caused me to become confirmation biased into this world and your reactions to me voicing it being as aggressive as they were forced me to go back and dig up arguments I didn't really have specifically planned out prior to voicing the read.

My main issue stems from the idea that Alison can go over without a wolf or wolves having good thread control. Alison going over, to me, rules out teams of two inside of MR/Wilgy/NAA/Nanook. It can be that any of them can go with Jay, or yourself but worlds of two containing them should not be able to create a gamestate so malignant that Alison dies d1 (who it's important to note, I was townreading so I don't feel like she was a reasonable chop to make for strong town without being persuaded or at least influenced/humoured by an equally strong wolf). This, coupled with the fact that I was shunted down into the role of town (yes town) moron of the day, again heavily implies the existence of one or two highly influential mafia.

Can a mafia team of two say something like MR/Wilgy just coast while the town captains just work themselves into killing a townie looking Alison, even while MacDougall, who is probably the best Alison read here, is saying she is town? Of course all things is possible in the eyes of the lord. But as I find myself explaining a lot, mafia is a game of probability analysis and I find it more plausible that this would not be the case and that in fact the gamestate was being influenced to be malignant in a more direct manner.

My analysis indicates that one of you are near sure to be mafia now with Marmot and Alison both dead and town.

It is either that, or you guys are playing really badly. Like no offense, but that's the situation. Because I am town. I'll readily admit I'm also playing pretty badly though so you're not alone. But if you guys are town together then yeah you guys are having proper clangers.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:51 pm So the only person in both their POE is me, and I am town... Alison had four names above NAA and Marmot had NAA in there. I shielded NAA a lot on day 1. So the mafia are clearly me and NAA. Except I am town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:51 pm [VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:49 pm @NotAnAxehole did you not have a scumread on Jay?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:53 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:29 pm Alright, gang:

Alison flips town. What next?

Alison flips mafia. What next?

Kill JJJ

Kill Mac

Were you just joking here?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.

There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.

There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.

If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.

can dizzy be mafia with not me cuz that guy is scummy as fek

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:43 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:38 pm @NotAnAxehole why did u have c4 as outed mafia?

A minor technicality.

I thought their reaction to it was bad too.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:51 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am Who are the wolves Mac?

Radishes and Wilgy most likely. C4 can be mafia.

C4 was my top mafia read early on... I think I would actually need to check this read in order to seriously hold onto it though.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

I suppose you could be right about Jay. He probably hasn't been as towny as he'd need to be to be as townread as he has been at least.

Jay gave a list early on that was so outrageous to me (me, Alison, Hally as top scum reads), certainly after Hally more or less left wolf range (I think - Limited/No personal experience dealing with them).

I think Alison has done some towny things... And is over scrutinized compared to her regular game.

I'm town...

So I'm wondering what compelled JJJ to release such a terrible reads list, I assume it's just that he's mafia. I think JJJ voting Alison makes it incredibly likely one of them is wolf, and JJJ has been wolfy.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:29 pm Alright, gang:

Alison flips town. What next?

Alison flips mafia. What next?

Kill JJJ

Kill Mac

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:49 pm @NotAnAxehole did you not have a scumread on Jay?

I don't know what I think about Jay.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.

There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.

There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.

If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm Kill MR if Town -> Dizzy if Mafia -> Mac

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:10 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:09 pm To anyone who cares to answer:

Who's the most likely player to flip mafia that is not contained in the following set: [Nanook, MR, Wilgy]?

Mac... No, Dizzy... Err... One of those things.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:40 pm Nanook town hally town Jay and mac getting rolled

I haven't even seen my role PM yet but I'm assuming you're my partner.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:11 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:43 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:22 pm Jay and mac already outed, mafia in shambles

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:40 pm Nanook town hally town Jay and mac getting rolled

Nanook spewing Mac as his partner.

haha mind meld

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

I don't get it.

If I scumread Nanook I don't have any feelings of second guessing or doubt that I do if I scumread anyone else because Nanook has done nothing but post wolfy shit

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

Thunderdome me daddy

not yet I've got to fart some more to tank my town meta

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:55 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

Thunderdome me daddy

not yet I've got to fart some more to tank my town meta

Scumreading me is already doing that lol

if you read again you will see I'm not actually scumreading you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:55 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

Thunderdome me daddy

not yet I've got to fart some more to tank my town meta

Scumreading me is already doing that lol

if you read again you will see I'm not actually scumreading you

Pretending to scumread me will also do that

also not what is happening

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:58 pm I am confusion then

I was implying you would be the easiest push to be making because you had been the scummiest slot yet nobody was which is a fact I felt would benefit the town to consider.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:01 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:59 pm Sorry you're outed dude rand god sucks sometimes

Lol this is interesting cuz I feel like an outed wolf and everything I try to reply here feels like what I'd say as a wolf but I'm not a wolf. Not often I feel something different like this.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:10 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:06 pm Game felt so much scummier when Mac arrived, and not just Mac lol. Wtf is that all about

I can explain.

I arrived to the game with Nanook and Jay already voting me. I hadn't got into the hub yet so I legit figured I was mafia with Nanook and said as much cuz funny wifom. Then I saw my actual rolecard and then I decided to play wolfy on purpose to reaction test people and Hally failed it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm I would love to hear everyone's town reads. It would be peachy keen. The more the better.

you dizzy Marmot

axe c4

nanook hally Alison

wilgy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:17 pm I reckon nanook and wilgy are the maf lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:23 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:22 pm Nanook is off to perhaps the worst start I have ever seen from him (with respect to alignment, not "quality").

Wilgy is a suspect by default.

Hally and Alison are a weird binary-exclusive case that could stand in for either of the names above.

yeh all this is pretty much things I think

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 pm nook is either exactly the beloved princess or mafia with no in between lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:24 pm I don't find Nanook's entrance particularly suspicious.

his entrance is whatever but he's not as townie as anyone else lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:28 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 pm nook is either exactly the beloved princess or mafia with no in between lol

Wink wink

guys I think he's saying he's neither

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm I am the beloved princess so Nanook must be mafia.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

how can this be true when @Dyslexicon is the beloved princess?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm I'm treating Nanook and Alison as claim and counterclaim.

be careful... fake claiming like this is entirely within both of their town ranges

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm I am glad we're in a game with the likes of Wilgy, MR, NAA and Nook cuz I'm confident they're at least all allergic to your bs.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 pm Firstly, it's two posts Jay. And it demonstrates that you are reading Hally with an agenda. Whether it's to simply pocket her or whether it's because you're teammates, either way you're mafia because of it. A Jay who has Hally in their actual POE of three never rules her out of the POE out of hand because of perceived disassociation reads. You are not that guy. And also one of the other two is now a dead town so her being disassociated to Alison is actually now completely irrelevant.

You are describing my bread and butter and saying "I don't do that". Wild.

Those two posts are separated by plenty of game thread. If you want to investigate my dealings with hally in good faith, you're going to have to open the ISO and actually look for the posts. You're omitting an absolute shitload, and you definitely know that already. Just incredible bullshit.

That is not you're bread and butter you are openly lying. You as a rule completely abstain from doing association reads until a red flip. You are so full of shit lol.

Fwiw I've seen him do the chart things during d1 pre flip

Whatever my point stands that he'd never outright remove Hally from the equation the way that he did without agenda. And tbh his reaction today has been far worse than any reason I had prior (Hally's and Dyslexicon's just as bad).

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

Your yammering makes zero sense to me. Sorryboutit.

You’re accusing Hally and clearing Hally on breathing in and out.

Or I just don’t get it.

And I believe that if there’s scum between j/hally, it’s likelier to be hally.

You also exaggerate what is happening for some reason. MR and Nanook have had no issues following my train of thought at all. Also you are acting like me changing up me reads and behaving in a weathervaney way is unexpected.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:19 pm mac, jay and i are both town

who are the wolves?

Can be anyone really can't it.

That said. I have some problems with the day 1 gamestate that have caused me to become confirmation biased into this world and your reactions to me voicing it being as aggressive as they were forced me to go back and dig up arguments I didn't really have specifically planned out prior to voicing the read.

My main issue stems from the idea that Alison can go over without a wolf or wolves having good thread control. Alison going over, to me, rules out teams of two inside of MR/Wilgy/NAA/Nanook. It can be that any of them can go with Jay, or yourself but worlds of two containing them should not be able to create a gamestate so malignant that Alison dies d1 (who it's important to note, I was townreading so I don't feel like she was a reasonable chop to make for strong town without being persuaded or at least influenced/humoured by an equally strong wolf). This, coupled with the fact that I was shunted down into the role of town (yes town) moron of the day, again heavily implies the existence of one or two highly influential mafia.

Can a mafia team of two say something like MR/Wilgy just coast while the town captains just work themselves into killing a townie looking Alison, even while MacDougall, who is probably the best Alison read here, is saying she is town? Of course all things is possible in the eyes of the lord. But as I find myself explaining a lot, mafia is a game of probability analysis and I find it more plausible that this would not be the case and that in fact the gamestate was being influenced to be malignant in a more direct manner.

My analysis indicates that one of you are near sure to be mafia now with Marmot and Alison both dead and town.

It is either that, or you guys are playing really badly. Like no offense, but that's the situation. Because I am town. I'll readily admit I'm also playing pretty badly though so you're not alone. But if you guys are town together then yeah you guys are having proper clangers.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:31 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:28 pm i think nook has felt wolfier here honestly

he’s just staying back and occasionally pouring fuel on the fire, and i feel he did that D1 too with how lazily he wolf read alison

Do we have any reason to believe he's simply not the BP he claims?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:50 pm Imagine putting weight on socky awards

spoken like someone with no sockys

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:50 pm Imagine putting weight on socky awards

spoken like someone with no sockys

Watch it bub you're talking to the two time reigning host of the year and 2021 mvp finalist

oh damn sorry

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:57 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:55 pm Hmmm i still kinda think Axe is just town.

what about nook?

Hard to say. He's been different to normal but like... would he be this obtuse if he was mafia? I don't think so?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:07 pm To me this game feels neither like easy mode nor hard mode. Middle mode is the vibe which has me in the realms of MR and Dizzy, for example.

what if it's just nanook and wilgy after all?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:08 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:01 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:57 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:55 pm
what about nook?

Hard to say. He's been different to normal but like... would he be this obtuse if he was mafia? I don't think so?

i don’t think he’s being obtuse about anything

seems like he just doesn’t care

I don't care about a large chunk of this thread, correct

what part of the thread do you care about?

At least half the posts from the higher posters, every time there's a piss fight, when it turns into a measuring contest of who's "contributed" the most, etc. etc.

sorry for contributing to this but like c4 telling me to "step it up" was lame... nobody needs me to flood the thread with garbage just to make myself look townier

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:17 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

I read him correctly two games in a row so now I believe I can read him correctly every game

cool i don't give a fuck about your read lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:27 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:17 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

I read him correctly two games in a row so now I believe I can read him correctly every game

cool i don't give a fuck about your read lol

Ok

Jokes aside i do think he's likely town

where was the joke?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:38 am [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:29 pm wilgy nanook final answer

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:16 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:19 pm I am literally drowning in irony

we are hard difference checked so we can openly troll people together and never get suspected as partners so let's do that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:22 pm Jay and mac already outed, mafia in shambles

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:40 pm Nanook town hally town Jay and mac getting rolled

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:43 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:22 pm Jay and mac already outed, mafia in shambles

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:40 pm Nanook town hally town Jay and mac getting rolled

Nanook spewing Mac as his partner.

Thats fine as long as we kill him first

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:40 pm Nanook town hally town Jay and mac getting rolled

I haven't even seen my role PM yet but I'm assuming you're my partner.

Obviously

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

Thunderdome me daddy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

Thunderdome me daddy

not yet I've got to fart some more to tank my town meta

Scumreading me is already doing that lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:55 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:46 pm Nanook is the easiest scumread to make here btw.

Thunderdome me daddy

not yet I've got to fart some more to tank my town meta

Scumreading me is already doing that lol

if you read again you will see I'm not actually scumreading you

Pretending to scumread me will also do that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:05 pm I'm probably gonna get mischopped today aren't I lmao

Only if I have something to say about it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:26 pm nook is either exactly the beloved princess or mafia with no in between lol

Wink wink

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

I think dizzy at least is likely town, and her other pushes that I've seen are some combo of me/mac/wilgy, so like...I think at most one mafia in those four and radishes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:23 pm Anyways there's probably one in jay/mac/axe but not both, and one somewhere else

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 pm Firstly, it's two posts Jay. And it demonstrates that you are reading Hally with an agenda. Whether it's to simply pocket her or whether it's because you're teammates, either way you're mafia because of it. A Jay who has Hally in their actual POE of three never rules her out of the POE out of hand because of perceived disassociation reads. You are not that guy. And also one of the other two is now a dead town so her being disassociated to Alison is actually now completely irrelevant.

You are describing my bread and butter and saying "I don't do that". Wild.

Those two posts are separated by plenty of game thread. If you want to investigate my dealings with hally in good faith, you're going to have to open the ISO and actually look for the posts. You're omitting an absolute shitload, and you definitely know that already. Just incredible bullshit.

That is not you're bread and butter you are openly lying. You as a rule completely abstain from doing association reads until a red flip. You are so full of shit lol.

Fwiw I've seen him do the chart things during d1 pre flip

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:50 pm Imagine putting weight on socky awards

spoken like someone with no sockys

Watch it bub you're talking to the two time reigning host of the year and 2021 mvp finalist

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:08 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:01 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:57 pm

Hard to say. He's been different to normal but like... would he be this obtuse if he was mafia? I don't think so?

i don’t think he’s being obtuse about anything

seems like he just doesn’t care

I don't care about a large chunk of this thread, correct

what part of the thread do you care about?

At least half the posts from the higher posters, every time there's a piss fight, when it turns into a measuring contest of who's "contributed" the most, etc. etc.

sorry for contributing to this but like c4 telling me to "step it up" was lame... nobody needs me to flood the thread with garbage just to make myself look townier

Nobody needs to be sorry, the game doesn't exist to cater to my interests or preferences lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

I read him correctly two games in a row so now I believe I can read him correctly every game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:17 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

I read him correctly two games in a row so now I believe I can read him correctly every game

cool i don't give a fuck about your read lol

Ok

Jokes aside i do think he's likely town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:29 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:27 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:26 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:17 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

I read him correctly two games in a row so now I believe I can read him correctly every game

cool i don't give a fuck about your read lol

Ok

Jokes aside i do think he's likely town

where was the joke?

The "I've read him safely two games in a row" part was obviously a joke

Not that I have, cause I have, but that I think it means anything

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:26 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME any town reads apart from Wilgy and Mac?

Hally


mac is a conditional town read, I think there's one between you him and axe but not more than one

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:40 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:37 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:36 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:34 am mac is a conditional town read, I think there's one between you him and axe but not more than one

One town between us or one mafia?

One mafia

So would it be accurate for me to say that you currently believe the mafia team to be c4 + Mac/NAA/Jay?

Believe is a strong word

I believe it has the highest probability at this point in time, sure

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:38 am [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Vote me harder daddy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:49 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm 145 posts LiTeRaLlY uNrEaDaBlE

what’s the villageriest thing you’ve posted iyo?

Idk, I dont have to evaluate myself lol. I think I'm broadly in my town meta but idk that there's one specific thing that clears me. Maybe my entrance wrt mac and Jay or not forcing a read on axe, but

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:36 pm Fuck's sake

Kill c4, find the mafia in jay/axe/dizzy/mac, gg

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:16 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:19 pm I am literally drowning in irony

we are hard difference checked so we can openly troll people together and never get suspected as partners so let's do that

Is there a better 21st century dancer than Jason sudeikis?

I say no, there is not

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:46 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:32 am does anyone have a reason NAA is a villager?

Well, his reads seems pretty bad.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:54 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:38 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

Uh. So you expect scum to openly hammer MR of he’s town? Seems dumb, to be frank. What if one or two are already on him?

Why is it either or. His wagon is pretty meh in any case. There’s plenty of time left in the day. Nobody expects a sudden hammer.

I don’t get and actually don’t buy that this is something you’re actually thinking about in this manner.

I would.

Well

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:14 pm Outside c4, there's a general view forming that Alison is a lead suspect. I would say so too.

If so, what implications does this have for the other players? I am sensing a little bit of discord in the consensus beyond this point (not an unhealthy amount, but an observable amount), and it might do us well as a group to sort that problem if it is a problem. Who fits with mafia Alison? What happens to your view of the game if she is town?

You are like actually very scummy with these posts. Have I just forgotten how to play with you. I'd vig you over most others in this game rn tbh tbh

So that was my reaction.
But to answer your question like a good citizen. Alison scum means town wins. Alison town means I look at you/Mac/Nanook/NAA probably.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:23 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:17 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:14 pmi’ve been the main one saying she’s probably mafia the entire day lol

Ugh. I know that. Just

Nevermind

Last time you listed suspects or who you wanted to vote, you didn't include Alison, pretty sure. And your response here was pretty much a joke. It was just weird. Are you afraid of being wrong or are you an alien shapeshifter.

But still never mind

i’m just not sure i actually want to kill alison D1 because if she’s a villager i think she can clear herself over time, whereas i find it less likely NAA or wilgy would if v

but i do think she’s a wolf and i may end up just voting her idk

I kind of feel the opposite lol. I feel like Wilgy can be read over time. Not sure about NAA and he tends to be chopped or considered for chopping even if he's obvtown so.

But bottom line, I just think Alison is the most likely mafia so that's where I'm voting. I feel that's a pretty sound strategy lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:43 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:38 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:37 amidk why i bother

My point is, I never put Alison in serious danger of being killed. (though I have been wrong on this before)

Heheheheheh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:38 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:23 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:21 am Is this the part where we turbo jjj?

I mean, he would unvote to appease Hally as either alignment, I don't think it's ADDITIONALLY indicative. The fact that he didn't offer to unvote IS wolfy though, I think normally as town he's like yeah, I don't mind... But let's just see if other people are ok with it.

Here he was like YEAH IM FINE WITH IT

OH, other people aren't... Ok.

I don't disagree entirely with this.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:54 am I guess I'd take any flip among Alison, Jimmay, NAA and Mac at this point.

Less interested in flipping Nook rn, but meh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:29 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:58 am @Alison Of you town read Wilgy, I expect you to describe meaning to me trying to town clear them when Hally and Jimmay were voting Wilgy. Other people were able to. Unless you’re just not paying attention. My biggest issue, again, is your solve doesn’t have substance or the substance is weak/bad like in the case of MR

I should add that my reads aren't really that different to yours tbh.

c4/Marmot - shocked if mafia.
Hally - not shocked if mafia at all actually, but I still town read.
Wilgy - town just get with it
Jimmay - I actually just need someone to convince me one way or another, cause it's a mixed bag
Nanook - Shrug
NAA - Shrug
Mac - Playing some sour notes
Alison - Why is your reasoning for your reads on me and MR in particular so extremely bad
MR - Actually should do a lot more things

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:38 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 pm I''m surprised Marmot is so willing to kill me on a whim.

Most players are willing to kill you on a whim. I will be willing to kill you on a whim all day phases in this game. This is an invitation to whomever this concerns.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:01 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:20 pm i wanna kill NAA over mac and alison

to me NAA’s play just reads like open wolfing while daring anyone to do anything about it and then snickering to himself when he skates by

also the difficulty i’ve had getting traction on my push on him while other targets have gotten votes very easily indicates he’s a wolf

i see he’s since gotten a vote from marmot but idc about that because i v read marmot, and jay seems to be the only other person willing to push NAA with me and i v read him too, whereas it feels like every other wagon has been joined by people i don’t v read

NAA just feels like the play here

(There's only two wolfes, so traction might not be the most reliable thing to go after here).

In any case, I'd vote NAA any day, and especially this game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:36 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:34 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:04 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:32 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:23 pm Imagine it's Alison/NAA and both wolves have sat on my wagon for the bulk of the Day.

The fun thing about always being LHF is being bait.

would be surprised if it’s exactly NAA/alison just because it would be like a whole new level of wolf trolling lol, but i don’t think they’re v/v either

i would actually maybe soft clear the other if one of them flips wolf, so we should try to lunch the wolf in there

What exactly would be a whole new level of wolf trolling?

NAA opening the game saying he’s going to hard sheep his teammate and then continuing to do that and hard defending her even as she’s a consensus wolf read

it’s not trolling in a literal sense but it’s about as openwolfy as you can get lol

Oh. Yeah. I forgot about the sheeping part. That would be trolly, got you

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:58 pm if alison flips town i really would kill NAA

if alison flips wolf soft clear NAA and look at mac probably

Yeah

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:39 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:03 pm I was so shocked when Alison said she was mafia.

You can now kill me for TMI.

What is this referring to? You saying lol?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:31 pm Nook/NAA would be underwhelming, but out of the question ig

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:00 pm NAA having trash reads, but it's NAI probably.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:34 pm Probing NAA for explanations makes about as much sense as pushing Radishes to make relevant posts on Day 1.

It has the appearance of a genuine motion, but it has very little promise given the player being probed.

Not to stomp on your stomp, but I almost asked NAA about it myself, but then I remembered it was futile.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:29 pm Sure, let's say MR/Nook. Which I think would make NAA's reads not trash, which is nice.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:14 pm I'm still sheeping Alison, but I kind of think JJJ/c4/dizzy has a higher chance of hitting mafia.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:38 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

Uh. So you expect scum to openly hammer MR of he’s town? Seems dumb, to be frank. What if one or two are already on him?

Why is it either or. His wagon is pretty meh in any case. There’s plenty of time left in the day. Nobody expects a sudden hammer.

I don’t get and actually don’t buy that this is something you’re actually thinking about in this manner.

I would.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:52 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:50 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:53 pm I am about 70% confident that Radish is mafia and you guys are acting like I'm 95% confident. It's weird.

Where in my posts have I projected confidence? Has my solve even focused untowardly on Radish at all, except as one step in a long sequence?

Please

this is also supremely relateable because it's exactly how you rock apes are treating my read on axe and it's what overbearing towncores do

I'm an ape, and I resent this negative connotation to the term.

Also, I think there's at least 1 mafia on Alison. relatively high confidence.

care to guess whomst? there are only 4 names there.

Top Guess: JJJ

2nd Guess: Dizzy

Somehow I think the other two are more likely to vote Alison D1 as town. And I think JJJ's been scummy in general.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:04 pm I think we have to kill Dizzy here.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:06 pm I would also kill MR. MR or dizzy best chances of hitting mafia

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:13 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:11 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:06 pm I would also kill MR. MR or dizzy best chances of hitting mafia

I know you're not the explaining type, but it would be valuable to me if you could just expand this by like one more sentence.

MR see Alison

Dizzy see voting history - idgi, it seems like the objective was to always vote Alison and to appear to be doing other things throughout the day.

That is all

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:04 pm For me, kill order is MR, Dizzy, Nanook.

If scum is outside of that... Well, mistakes were made.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:35 pm Kill MR, Dizzy, Nanook... The order doesn't matter. Killing Alison D1 was a travesty.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.

There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.

There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.

If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm Kill MR if Town -> Dizzy if Mafia -> Mac

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:47 pm Why am I and Dizzy in a dichotomy? That was an Alison thing and now it's an NAA thing and I don't know why.

You're both scummy, and I trust Alison sufficiently to carry her legacy out. This is why I sheeped her from the moment I thought she was town.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:03 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:00 pm NAA having trash reads, but it's NAI probably.

This is not a towny take.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:10 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:09 pm To anyone who cares to answer:

Who's the most likely player to flip mafia that is not contained in the following set: [Nanook, MR, Wilgy]?

Mac... No, Dizzy... Err... One of those things.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm I'm treating Nanook and Alison as claim and counterclaim.

lol

You are so funny sometimes.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:59 am After careful consideration, I have concluded that Nanook hasn't said anything towny at any point, and if he was town, he would have by now. He just straight up doesn't care about his reads or finding wolves. Lock mafia.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:27 am After a hot, steamy, sensual shower, where I thought about the game (I don't car about mafia anymore haha), I have concluded that Alison is also mafia. I will probably explain this in more depth later. Just wanted to let you all know.

Alison+Nanook

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:42 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?

Literally everyone saying things like "I don't want a hammer" lol

Who has said that though?

Alison Jay you hally dizzy radishes I think have said some form of it

Idk I'm not fact checking right now that's just offhand

It goes without saying though. We all know who would actually push a hammer early and who wouldn't. S H R U G

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:14 pm Outside c4, there's a general view forming that Alison is a lead suspect. I would say so too.

If so, what implications does this have for the other players? I am sensing a little bit of discord in the consensus beyond this point (not an unhealthy amount, but an observable amount), and it might do us well as a group to sort that problem if it is a problem. Who fits with mafia Alison? What happens to your view of the game if she is town?

You are like actually very scummy with these posts. Have I just forgotten how to play with you. I'd vig you over most others in this game rn tbh tbh

So that was my reaction.
But to answer your question like a good citizen. Alison scum means town wins. Alison town means I look at you/Mac/Nanook/NAA probably.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:19 pmSure, im just saying its pointless to run people up if there's no threat of hammer, not that you shouldn't say it, cause you're right we all know there are like...3, maybe 4 people in this game that woild d1 hammer lol

The whole thing is just moot ig is my (non)point

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:33 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:33 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:27 pm We probably only get two mischops in this game. I suggest we eliminate the top suspect every time without regard for who it is. The game is unlikely to offer a wealth of time and chop resources to sort itself out. This might be speaking the obvious, but I don't think it's obvious in practice.

wait actually?

Yeah

Ew. Worse than pandas

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:54 am I guess I'd take any flip among Alison, Jimmay, NAA and Mac at this point.

Less interested in flipping Nook rn, but meh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:29 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:58 am @Alison Of you town read Wilgy, I expect you to describe meaning to me trying to town clear them when Hally and Jimmay were voting Wilgy. Other people were able to. Unless you’re just not paying attention. My biggest issue, again, is your solve doesn’t have substance or the substance is weak/bad like in the case of MR

I should add that my reads aren't really that different to yours tbh.

c4/Marmot - shocked if mafia.
Hally - not shocked if mafia at all actually, but I still town read.
Wilgy - town just get with it
Jimmay - I actually just need someone to convince me one way or another, cause it's a mixed bag
Nanook - Shrug
NAA - Shrug
Mac - Playing some sour notes
Alison - Why is your reasoning for your reads on me and MR in particular so extremely bad
MR - Actually should do a lot more things

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:01 pm Question for the audience while I try to figure out interactions:

Is Nanook compatible with Alison? There's clearly voting animosity that exists, but it also strikes me as blank and not outside the realm of bussing. Hard to say. I welcome takes.

Yeah. That was my shower theory. I'm not as enthused about a scum!Nook here, but it's not impossible at all.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:58 pm if alison flips town i really would kill NAA

if alison flips wolf soft clear NAA and look at mac probably

And Nook maybe

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:31 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:26 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

no

do better

Ok.

You and Nook?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:25 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:22 pm MR can be mafia. He just sat and watched this happen.

didn’t he leave?

Maybe. I only recall one post, in which he observed I don't usually act like this (@ Mac).

Which is true

It's generally true. It's a very easy thing to say when Jay starts yelling. Wow Jay is yelling, what?

It was more typical of me circa 2017ish

Sure. Imma vote Nook now

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:31 pm Nook/NAA would be underwhelming, but out of the question ig

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:50 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Why is c4 mafia to you?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:29 pm Sure, let's say MR/Nook. Which I think would make NAA's reads not trash, which is nice.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:11 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:07 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:04 pm No. I think Radish is town. I'm the Radish friend.

so who are the wolves?

Nanook is probably one at least

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:24 pm "He doesn't care" and "he seems flat" are just awful ways to read me

I actually think it's a decent way to read you. I sense you caring about expressing your reads when you are town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:24 pm "He doesn't care" and "he seems flat" are just awful ways to read me

I actually think it's a decent way to read you. I sense you caring about expressing your reads when you are town.

....and you have a mediocre read on me, and read me wrong for almost exactly this reason last time, iirc?

I was wrong on one game we played on MU a while back.

In any case, my vote is still worth 1 so

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm Anyways, hally is town Jay is town dizzy is town mac is town

Ez clap

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:22 pm I no longer have town reads on Jay or dizzy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:42 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?

Literally everyone saying things like "I don't want a hammer" lol

Who has said that though?

Alison Jay you hally dizzy radishes I think have said some form of it

Idk I'm not fact checking right now that's just offhand

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:19 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:42 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:26 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:25 pm Btw running people up is kind of pointless if you're vocally unwilling to hammer lol, the whole point of running people up is to see what happens when they get close to a hammer, but there's no tension to it if everyone knows there are only two or three people in this game whod actually hammer lol

Who is vocally unwilling to hammer?

Literally everyone saying things like "I don't want a hammer" lol

Who has said that though?

Alison Jay you hally dizzy radishes I think have said some form of it

Idk I'm not fact checking right now that's just offhand

It goes without saying though. We all know who would actually push a hammer early and who wouldn't. S H R U G

Sure, im just saying its pointless to run people up if there's no threat of hammer, not that you shouldn't say it, cause you're right we all know there are like...3, maybe 4 people in this game that woild d1 hammer lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:22 pm Name 6 townies not including yourself. Get it right and you win the game. Anyone fancy a try?

Hally mac dizzy wilgy tbd tbd

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:33 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:33 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:32 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:27 pm We probably only get two mischops in this game. I suggest we eliminate the top suspect every time without regard for who it is. The game is unlikely to offer a wealth of time and chop resources to sort itself out. This might be speaking the obvious, but I don't think it's obvious in practice.

wait actually?

Yeah

Ew. Worse than pandas

Internal shudder

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:12 pm The you being dizzy but it applies broadly

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

I think dizzy at least is likely town, and her other pushes that I've seen are some combo of me/mac/wilgy, so like...I think at most one mafia in those four and radishes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:58 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

I think dizzy at least is likely town, and her other pushes that I've seen are some combo of me/mac/wilgy, so like...I think at most one mafia in those four and radishes

why did you v read dizzy D1? and did you have a read on radishes?

He feels roughly the same as pandas

No

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:15 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:50 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Why is c4 mafia to you?

Have you played with iawy before?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:30 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:29 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:24 pm "He doesn't care" and "he seems flat" are just awful ways to read me

I actually think it's a decent way to read you. I sense you caring about expressing your reads when you are town.

....and you have a mediocre read on me, and read me wrong for almost exactly this reason last time, iirc?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:36 pm Fuck's sake

Kill c4, find the mafia in jay/axe/dizzy/mac, gg

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:49 pmbro you 100% hate playing wolf we talked about this several times in the GoC

Oops, my bad. 2) is 100 % correct.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:59 pm mac is in his wolfrange right now is realistically something you can say on page 5 of every game btw

Not me noticing your post rank after reading this post lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:58 pm I am confusion then

I was implying you would be the easiest push to be making because you had been the scummiest slot yet nobody was which is a fact I felt would benefit the town to consider.

You're the easiest push to make though.

Spoiler: show

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 pm no I do probably have covid tho lol

How is your bloodpee coming along?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:06 pm Game felt so much scummier when Mac arrived, and not just Mac lol. Wtf is that all about

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:10 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:06 pm Game felt so much scummier when Mac arrived, and not just Mac lol. Wtf is that all about

I can explain.

I arrived to the game with Nanook and Jay already voting me. I hadn't got into the hub yet so I legit figured I was mafia with Nanook and said as much cuz funny wifom. Then I saw my actual rolecard and then I decided to play wolfy on purpose to reaction test people and Hally failed it.

When is the sexy mud wrestling bit of the story?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 pm no I do probably have covid tho lol

How is your bloodpee coming along?

cleared up well thanks for asking

Glad to hear it!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm I don't really worry much about Mac. He's a lousy wolf that often wins.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm I don't really worry much about Mac. He's a lousy wolf that often wins.

Much like me when I think about it

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm I have an idea.

All of you should blindly sheep me D1. Then if the person I vote flips GREEN you lock me as inno child. If the person I vote flips RED you policy me. How does that sound?

I fixed your version of this.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm Mac is probably town tbh
Add Hally, c4, Marmot and Radish. YES RADISH

Towncoreville wow

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm I am the beloved princess so Nanook must be mafia.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

how can this be true when @Dyslexicon is the beloved princess?

This is so funny, cause I actually am, but nobody will believe me so it's cool.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:34 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:33 pm Did anyone notice that I did the incredibly fool proof town tell of posting way past when I said I was going to sleep?

As if I wasn't town read enough already!

fwiw I usually find wolves do this more than town lol

Not me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:28 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:31 pm Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
c4e5g3d5, Alison, MacDougall, NotAnAxehole

I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?

If MR is red, Mac is probably more likely wolf lol. But MR is town anyways so waheveh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm correction naa's entire iso is townie

this post reminds me of how i caught mac in GoC when he declared sabie was lock v for no reason

like idk how anyone could think this lol

I read his iso and it was townie... explain how it wasn't? first 9 posts.

How about you explain how it's towny?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:14 pm Outside c4, there's a general view forming that Alison is a lead suspect. I would say so too.

If so, what implications does this have for the other players? I am sensing a little bit of discord in the consensus beyond this point (not an unhealthy amount, but an observable amount), and it might do us well as a group to sort that problem if it is a problem. Who fits with mafia Alison? What happens to your view of the game if she is town?

You are like actually very scummy with these posts. Have I just forgotten how to play with you. I'd vig you over most others in this game rn tbh tbh

So that was my reaction.
But to answer your question like a good citizen. Alison scum means town wins. Alison town means I look at you/Mac/Nanook/NAA probably.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:19 amit's 9 fucking posts, why is the burden of proof on me? people are >rand town by default so the burden of proof is not on me.

Yes, it is. You were the one with a (counter) opinion.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:22 am like how much can I actually elaborate on a read I made from skimming a guy's 9 post ISO? do you want me to break it down character by character?

The hyperbole and the drama of it all lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:40 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:38 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:23 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:21 am Is this the part where we turbo jjj?

I mean, he would unvote to appease Hally as either alignment, I don't think it's ADDITIONALLY indicative. The fact that he didn't offer to unvote IS wolfy though, I think normally as town he's like yeah, I don't mind... But let's just see if other people are ok with it.

Here he was like YEAH IM FINE WITH IT

OH, other people aren't... Ok.

I don't disagree entirely with this.

so you disagree somewhat or agree partially?

I agree, but don't know if it's meaningful.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:52 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:36 am I have just eaten a pot of Samyang noodles. My sinuses are clear and my brain is tired. I have read up.

- Mac's re-entrance into the thread does not spark joy. He appears to be generating chaos for the sake of it when I think he would approach the gamestate in a more orderly fashion if his reads were as he claims they were. Specifically, if he townreads me and sees me in danger of receiving a guillotine to the neck, I believe he would not be doing things like, eg. "voting c4 for science". I'm scratching my head why he (presumably) townreads me over the "rock apes" mindmeld. Surely I'd be frustrated at having a read confidence misrepped as either alignment.

- I still do not want to vote Mac off today. My reasoning remains the same.

- I have seen NAA's argument that JJJ is most likely to be the scum voting me. I definitely think I am being pushed by scum. Radish and Dizzy are more likely than JJJ, though. I tend to think that JJJ is the kind of townie that ramps up the townieness over time. If he is town, he will show that townieness in a brilliant dazzle as time goes on until it is undeniable to everyone and he becomes universally townread. If it is later in the game and he still hasn't ramped up, then maybe scrutinize him then. I have other leads to pursue in the meantime.

- I think Wilgy is town now. Gut read. Believe it or don't.

- Nanook takes Wilgy's place of suspicion in the POE for trying to hammer me. I had Wilgy paired with Axe specifically because Axe seemed willing to sheep my push on anyone but him, but I don't think Nanook and Axe read as strongly paired. They could be partners, it's not out of the question, but it's not an association I think is significantly more likely than Nanook + other person or Axe + other person. I think in this updated solve I'd throw Nanook in as a wild card replacement of one of Radish/Mac if I'm wrong on them. Radish/Mac/Dizzy/Nanook are floating around in some kind of scummy stew. I think there's two mafia in there and the most likely exact pair is Radish/Mac but I wouldn't be shocked to see any of the others in one of the slots. Axe is less scummy than the four of them especially given his hard Alison siding and the fact that the person I partnered him with now reads as town to me. He is 5th in the POE.

Good night.

I'm also unenthused by Mac.

I also think Wilgy is town.

Problem is, your solve just seems weak and bad to me. I took issue with your reasons for scum reading MR, because they just seem like made up bs, as I said, prescribing tons meaning into a simple joke. You never addressed this, and I would like you to. Your tag-on that I'm scum for "not doing anything" is bad as well. I have certainly done a lot. I have 5 town reads (that might change lol) and I am straight up accusing you for specific reasons. Me "doing anything" is not even a reliable way to read me. However, I'm not one to get up in your face and "open wolf" or whatever you think I would be doing here as wolf. I don't know. Maybe you're omgusing a bit or whatever, but I find your read on both me and MR particularly weak at a level I don't expect from you as town. Even if you are town and MR is mafia, I find your MR read weak.

So that just makes it hard to believe that you have such confidence in this.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 am I am now voting c4 for science

Oh wow I bet this will be interesting and fruitful

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:54 am I guess I'd take any flip among Alison, Jimmay, NAA and Mac at this point.

Less interested in flipping Nook rn, but meh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:55 am [VOTE: FartyMacFartFace] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:04 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 am I am now voting c4 for science

Oh wow I bet this will be interesting and fruitful

well nobody has said shit about it except you and c4 hasn't posted so not sure why you're framing this like I'm bad for trying something new

You might be bad for doing things that won't lead anywhere. Cause your shit doesn't lead anywhere when you are mafia. I believe it's the number one difference between your wolf and town game.

c4 is pretty consensus town read.

Your particular brand of pouting isn't inspiring either.

Just my opinion man

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:29 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:58 am @Alison Of you town read Wilgy, I expect you to describe meaning to me trying to town clear them when Hally and Jimmay were voting Wilgy. Other people were able to. Unless you’re just not paying attention. My biggest issue, again, is your solve doesn’t have substance or the substance is weak/bad like in the case of MR

I should add that my reads aren't really that different to yours tbh.

c4/Marmot - shocked if mafia.
Hally - not shocked if mafia at all actually, but I still town read.
Wilgy - town just get with it
Jimmay - I actually just need someone to convince me one way or another, cause it's a mixed bag
Nanook - Shrug
NAA - Shrug
Mac - Playing some sour notes
Alison - Why is your reasoning for your reads on me and MR in particular so extremely bad
MR - Actually should do a lot more things

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:46 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:04 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 am I am now voting c4 for science

Oh wow I bet this will be interesting and fruitful

well nobody has said shit about it except you and c4 hasn't posted so not sure why you're framing this like I'm bad for trying something new

You might be bad for doing things that won't lead anywhere. Cause your shit doesn't lead anywhere when you are mafia. I believe it's the number one difference between your wolf and town game.

c4 is pretty consensus town read.

Your particular brand of pouting isn't inspiring either.

Just my opinion man

well your shit only leads to a dead town so

Oh wow burn

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:10 amno burn intended I am just trying to make you recognise the hypocrisy of claiming my play "leads nowhere" when your current play is to yolo a vote onto a town Mac

You're a possible chop. C4 is not. So it leads somewhere. Potentially. Your alignment is irrelevant.

If you want to understand my perspective. But if you want to moan, feel free.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:47 pm I'm just like scolding everyones play style and how they are "doing it wrong".
Alison, get better reads Jesus.
Jimmay, write differently.
Mac, don't be a pouty poutface.

^Dizzy is confirmed town. Thank you.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:37 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:36 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:52 am I'm already volume clearing hally and mac idgaf

Never mind that was nanook

He volume cleared Mac in the same post. :/

@MacDougall Why tf would you volume clear Hally. Booo

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:58 pm if alison flips town i really would kill NAA

if alison flips wolf soft clear NAA and look at mac probably

Yeah

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:40 pm there is very little chance my vote ends up on anyone not named jay or hally today and that's not having read anything from day 2 so far

Vote Hally with me. It will be great

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

that isn't helping my point right now

But it’s true. Don’t really thing Jay is mafia. But what I think isn’t likely to be worth much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm Furthermore I will add that nobody outright attacking me (the way Jay and Hally have done right now) d1 is a strong indicator that it's because I was pushing an incorrect POE and wasn't being a threat. Jay and Hally at multiple points exhibited TMI that I was town.

You were pushed a decent deal for a d1. You’re not making convincing points tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Didn’t you just spend the last pages declaring how Jimmay and Hally are teammates.

You can calm down with the open wolfing now lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm In the triangle of Dyslexicon, Hally and Jay there are always two mafia.

So it’s me and Jay, since you just cleared Hally from derps?

Like… are you derp clearing lock towning Hally, or are you accusing them? Cause that seems the tiniest fraction unclear

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm Why does Hally’s posts count as derp clears, while Jimnay’s does not?

Why am I town now?

I never scum read you.

I was asking Mac why he’s clearing Hally for reacting to Alison’s lies, but not you.

Of course, nobody should be cleared off of that, as mafia isn’t going to let it be known that it is a lie.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

Your yammering makes zero sense to me. Sorryboutit.

You’re accusing Hally and clearing Hally on breathing in and out.

Or I just don’t get it.

And I believe that if there’s scum between j/hally, it’s likelier to be hally.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:17 pm Wild as it seems, Mac still could be town.

Oh wow, how amazing and interesting!

I will return later. Game game game

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:18 pm Obligatory

What if Mac/Jay are both town and the real scums are like Hally and/or Nook or something?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:31 pm But I guess if I was to give you a snap answer I would say it'd be Dyslexicon first and foremost and then I'd need to probably re-read some stuff.

I think I’ve rarely been more obvious town in my entire mafia career. But maybe you’d have to be me to know that.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:31 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:28 pm i think nook has felt wolfier here honestly

he’s just staying back and occasionally pouring fuel on the fire, and i feel he did that D1 too with how lazily he wolf read alison

Do we have any reason to believe he's simply not the BP he claims?

Lolllllll

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:48 am Random reflections without having read carefully:

Is Mac really this lost and confused? Are you lost and confused, Mac?

Maybe it's a mistake to take Wilgy out of the PoE.

@JaggedJimmyJay Why are you struggling so to read me? Can I help you?

I'm pretty sure I'm over my Hally suspicion. They did a towny.

Also, I want to read this game more carefully and be more present with it. I've been constantly in a state of dissociation when engaging with the game, which isn't as comfortable as I want it to be. When I eventually get to it, I might have less random thoughts.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:09 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:06 pm when did you start trusting me more than jay?

A while ago actually.

When you said the thing about it being a disaster if me/Mac were both town, tipped it back for me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:21 pm if there’s anything i can do to make the game more fun for you lmk

Flip a mafia =p

It's complicated.
It's bad timing now, cause I've been out all day and about to go to sleep.

I'm sure you have some world view post or something like that, cause that may help.
Or just make it easier again.

I'm going easy route you/c4/jay town, I guess.
I could be there on Mac if you all agree-ish.
Not sure. His sorry for existing attitude was maybe towny for him. If real lol. But sure.

So.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:04 pm Dizzy, Jay and Axe are all lean town so far.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:48 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:34 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:15 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:09 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

Serious vote.

sup?

I think you'd scrutinize Dizzy a little harder if you found his behavior jarring, since I got the impression you were miffed at wrongly townreading him in GOC.

it’s jarring, i just don’t think really think it’s AI

dizzy is more than capable of faking tone/vibe as a wolf so i believe that he’s just down regardless of alignment

1) Dizzy is down.
2) Dizzy hates playing wolf.
3) Dizzy is more likely to be down if he is a wolf.
4) If Dizzy is down, he is more likely to be a wolf.

Which of these 4 statements is not true?

All of them lol

bro you 100% hate playing wolf we talked about this several times in the GoC

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:53 pm Dyslexicon is lock town never rescind btw

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:54 pm @Alison Why all this interest in my apparent down-ness via Hally. If you think it should result in an x or y read from Hally, why don't you have that read on me yourself?

I didn't even get the impression you were down this whole thing is weird

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:04 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:00 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:58 pm I am confusion then

I was implying you would be the easiest push to be making because you had been the scummiest slot yet nobody was which is a fact I felt would benefit the town to consider.

You're the easiest push to make though.

Spoiler: show

am I? damn.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:10 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:06 pm Game felt so much scummier when Mac arrived, and not just Mac lol. Wtf is that all about

I can explain.

I arrived to the game with Nanook and Jay already voting me. I hadn't got into the hub yet so I legit figured I was mafia with Nanook and said as much cuz funny wifom. Then I saw my actual rolecard and then I decided to play wolfy on purpose to reaction test people and Hally failed it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:09 pm no I do probably have covid tho lol

How is your bloodpee coming along?

cleared up well thanks for asking

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:13 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm I don't really worry much about Mac. He's a lousy wolf that often wins.

this seems like a reason to worry about me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:12 pm I have an idea.

All of you should blindly sheep me D1. Then if the person I vote flips GREEN you lock me as inno child. If the person I vote flips RED you policy me. How does that sound?

I fixed your version of this.

fucking foiled

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm I would love to hear everyone's town reads. It would be peachy keen. The more the better.

you dizzy Marmot

axe c4

nanook hally Alison

wilgy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm Mac is probably town tbh
Add Hally, c4, Marmot and Radish. YES RADISH

Towncoreville wow

way to pocket me bro

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:27 pm I am the beloved princess so Nanook must be mafia.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

how can this be true when @Dyslexicon is the beloved princess?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:34 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:33 pm Did anyone notice that I did the incredibly fool proof town tell of posting way past when I said I was going to sleep?

As if I wasn't town read enough already!

fwiw I usually find wolves do this more than town lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:34 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:33 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm I'm treating Nanook and Alison as claim and counterclaim.

This is also a little wack

Yeah, can't tell if wack or just Jimmay being SO SERIOUS MAFIA PLAYER

almost definitely rhe latter

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:44 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:30 pm correction naa's entire iso is townie

this post reminds me of how i caught mac in GoC when he declared sabie was lock v for no reason

like idk how anyone could think this lol

I read his iso and it was townie... explain how it wasn't? first 9 posts.

How about you explain how it's towny?

it's 9 fucking posts, why is the burden of proof on me? people are >rand town by default so the burden of proof is not on me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:38 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:34 am just gonna let mac do his thing and see where it leads

my thing right now is that I believe that Alison, Dizzy, Jay, Marmot and you are all town more than I think Axe is town but you guys are so fascinated with my Axe read and also stir crazy that you're derping yourselves senseless.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:40 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:19 amit's 9 fucking posts, why is the burden of proof on me? people are >rand town by default so the burden of proof is not on me.

Yes, it is. You were the one with a (counter) opinion.

nup

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:40 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:38 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:23 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:21 am Is this the part where we turbo jjj?

I mean, he would unvote to appease Hally as either alignment, I don't think it's ADDITIONALLY indicative. The fact that he didn't offer to unvote IS wolfy though, I think normally as town he's like yeah, I don't mind... But let's just see if other people are ok with it.

Here he was like YEAH IM FINE WITH IT

OH, other people aren't... Ok.

I don't disagree entirely with this.

so you disagree somewhat or agree partially?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:41 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:40 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 amThere was a time in my life when I would have cared more. I think we're far enough along in this Day 1 though that it's not a crazy notion. We've used 80% of the time allotted.

Your math is wrong.

your face is wrong

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:04 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 am I am now voting c4 for science

Oh wow I bet this will be interesting and fruitful

well nobody has said shit about it except you and c4 hasn't posted so not sure why you're framing this like I'm bad for trying something new

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:46 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:04 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 am I am now voting c4 for science

Oh wow I bet this will be interesting and fruitful

well nobody has said shit about it except you and c4 hasn't posted so not sure why you're framing this like I'm bad for trying something new

You might be bad for doing things that won't lead anywhere. Cause your shit doesn't lead anywhere when you are mafia. I believe it's the number one difference between your wolf and town game.

c4 is pretty consensus town read.

Your particular brand of pouting isn't inspiring either.

Just my opinion man

well your shit only leads to a dead town so

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:10 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:46 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:24 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:04 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:12 am I am now voting c4 for science

Oh wow I bet this will be interesting and fruitful

well nobody has said shit about it except you and c4 hasn't posted so not sure why you're framing this like I'm bad for trying something new

You might be bad for doing things that won't lead anywhere. Cause your shit doesn't lead anywhere when you are mafia. I believe it's the number one difference between your wolf and town game.

c4 is pretty consensus town read.

Your particular brand of pouting isn't inspiring either.

Just my opinion man

well your shit only leads to a dead town so

Oh wow burn

no burn intended I am just trying to make you recognise the hypocrisy of claiming my play "leads nowhere" when your current play is to yolo a vote onto a town Mac

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:43 pm Funny you say that Jay because I don't believe that either of you would view the day as having played out the way that it did and think I had anything to do with it, do you really think that Alison goes over day 1 without the mafia playing a significant role in her demise? I don't.

I played maybe the biggest part, and I could tell it was a mistake as it was happening heh

that isn't helping my point right now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:55 pm Mac. You’re open wolfing worse than me, regardless of your alignment. Sads.

These types of comments are why good chops on good players never go through.

I’m voting Hally now.

You could join.

Nah pass, Hally is obvious town from derp clearing herself after Alison fake claimed mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 pm In the triangle of Dyslexicon, Hally and Jay there are always two mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:06 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 pm Firstly, it's two posts Jay. And it demonstrates that you are reading Hally with an agenda. Whether it's to simply pocket her or whether it's because you're teammates, either way you're mafia because of it. A Jay who has Hally in their actual POE of three never rules her out of the POE out of hand because of perceived disassociation reads. You are not that guy. And also one of the other two is now a dead town so her being disassociated to Alison is actually now completely irrelevant.

You are describing my bread and butter and saying "I don't do that". Wild.

Those two posts are separated by plenty of game thread. If you want to investigate my dealings with hally in good faith, you're going to have to open the ISO and actually look for the posts. You're omitting an absolute shitload, and you definitely know that already. Just incredible bullshit.

That is not you're bread and butter you are openly lying. You as a rule completely abstain from doing association reads until a red flip. You are so full of shit lol.

Fwiw I've seen him do the chart things during d1 pre flip

Whatever my point stands that he'd never outright remove Hally from the equation the way that he did without agenda. And tbh his reaction today has been far worse than any reason I had prior (Hally's and Dyslexicon's just as bad).

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:08 pm What is my reaction and why is it bad? Is this you trying to make me look bad after a red flip or something?

This got bizarre so fast. I bet it’s pretty hilarious in specchat in some way or another.

No you are sidelining hot takes that feel like cheerleading Jay in a really scummy way and even Jay noticed it.

Your yammering makes zero sense to me. Sorryboutit.

You’re accusing Hally and clearing Hally on breathing in and out.

Or I just don’t get it.

And I believe that if there’s scum between j/hally, it’s likelier to be hally.

You also exaggerate what is happening for some reason. MR and Nanook have had no issues following my train of thought at all. Also you are acting like me changing up me reads and behaving in a weathervaney way is unexpected.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:31 pm But I guess if I was to give you a snap answer I would say it'd be Dyslexicon first and foremost and then I'd need to probably re-read some stuff.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:36 pm I have no real reason to townread anybody in this game honestly. If I went to level one and just gave Hally, Jay and Dyslexicon the townreads they so desperately crave I'm still left with a POE that's way too broad.

And then I'm left to wonder why Marmot died n1 over either Jay or Hally and I am just back here again.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:56 pm Does C4/Dyslexicon make sense as a team?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:01 pm @Master Radishes c4/dizzy?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:26 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:42 pm I think this game is actually really easy.

There's a hard difference check between Nanook and Mac.

There is a difference check between Dizzy and MR.

If Mac is mafia, it's probably with Dizzy.

can dizzy be mafia with not me cuz that guy is scummy as fek

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:31 pm Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
c4e5g3d5, Alison, MacDougall, NotAnAxehole

I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:01 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"

That's just incorrect. I TR Hally, NAA and Marmot.

NAA I even vocalized.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:20 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 am @Alison is wanting to sheep you normal for NAA? how does he usually approach you as v?

1) No.
2) These are the games I've had with v!NAA.

- Basic Mafia (V/V), where I explicitly asked to be sheeped because I had a very confident read. He did not do this.
- Bonk! Mafia (V/M), where I replaced into an outed scum slot and got instantly voted out by everyone.
- Lost in Space Mafia (V/M), where he correctly suspected me for voting a villager at D1 and buried me D2.
- GOC (V/V), where he received a role that gave him rewards if he faked and held a cop check; he faked a red check on me, and a member of the mafia opportunistically used this chance to dayvig me.

As you can see, he doesn't have a track record of sheeping me when he is town, regardless of my alignment. This is why I was skeptical of his decision to do so this game, with very little reason.

I do think NAA has track record of sheeping a player in the game who has a lot of threadclout or towncred.

He openly steeped JJJ in Fleabag
He openly steeped me in Team Fortress

I don't recall what his scum meta is like though

I don't need to play as scum because people don't understand my town meta, and generally go out of their way to not interact with me.

If it's any consolation, I think you are town based on your behavior towards my slot.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:52 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:51 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:50 pm wilgy is threadspewed by NAA and alison both being on his wagon

Spoiler: show

unless they’re bussing

and nook is on it too lol

i feel like either wilgy is getting bussed right now or he’s a villager

Probably a villager

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:10 amHi Wilgy

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:15 am Wilgy is obviously town who next, Alison?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:33 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:20 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:03 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 am @Alison is wanting to sheep you normal for NAA? how does he usually approach you as v?

1) No.
2) These are the games I've had with v!NAA.

- Basic Mafia (V/V), where I explicitly asked to be sheeped because I had a very confident read. He did not do this.
- Bonk! Mafia (V/M), where I replaced into an outed scum slot and got instantly voted out by everyone.
- Lost in Space Mafia (V/M), where he correctly suspected me for voting a villager at D1 and buried me D2.
- GOC (V/V), where he received a role that gave him rewards if he faked and held a cop check; he faked a red check on me, and a member of the mafia opportunistically used this chance to dayvig me.

As you can see, he doesn't have a track record of sheeping me when he is town, regardless of my alignment. This is why I was skeptical of his decision to do so this game, with very little reason.

I do think NAA has track record of sheeping a player in the game who has a lot of threadclout or towncred.

He openly steeped JJJ in Fleabag
He openly steeped me in Team Fortress

I don't recall what his scum meta is like though

I don't need to play as scum because people don't understand my town meta, and generally go out of their way to not interact with me.

If it's any consolation, I think you are town based on your behavior towards my slot.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:34 pm Wilgy obviously town tbh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:27 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:22 pm [VOTE: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME] aubergine

Speaking of which.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am I haven't played with c4 before.

And idk. They seem like they are quite alright with many a wagon. They were on MR, Nook and Alison. They are cool with anyone going over and persistently keeps people at 4. I think they are the only one who's been on all 3 potential yeets.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 am Hammers are BAD and ANTI TOWN because they ROB us of TIME and EVERYONE knows that TIME is way more valuable than FLIPS because TIME is how we circlejerk about how smart we all are SOLVE THE GAME

Spoiler: show

I like my quality shitposting time thank you very much!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:28 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 am Hammers are BAD and ANTI TOWN because they ROB us of TIME and EVERYONE knows that TIME is way more valuable than FLIPS because TIME is how we circlejerk about how smart we all are SOLVE THE GAME

Hammers are GOOD and PRO-TOWN because they GRANT us FLIPS with LOCKED NIGHT PHASES when the host isn't HERE to GIVE the FLIP anyway I LOVE hammers HAMMER ME DADDY

OHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAH

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:47 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:11 am Hello, I see I have 3 votes. Who's munchin that LHF?

Glomp, uwu

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:57 am [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine forgot to call it earlier

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:20 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine

I read his iso and im actually pretty confident wilgy is town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:21 pm Wilgy hally and mac are my confident town reads now

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:22 pm Name 6 townies not including yourself. Get it right and you win the game. Anyone fancy a try?

Hally mac dizzy wilgy tbd tbd

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:54 pm Largely because your votes to that point that I'd seen were a long held deeply meh vote on myself and a vote on wilgy, who I came to believe is town

So

Downgraded to a null read

If Alison goes over and flips red with you on her you can have a sweet sweet town read again

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:07 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:56 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:32 am the thing is i can’t tell if he’s gimmicking here? his tone is weird but not in an obviously gimmicky way

I don't have the capacity for gimmicks rn. Getting married in a week.

My tone is probably off because I didn't read the first 10 pages and I'm struggling to really read anyone as scum. With the exception of c4, and I don't even get that one.

Mmmff mmf your vows and tell your wife it's a townie gimmick or gtfo

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:25 am Hammers are BAD and ANTI TOWN because they ROB us of TIME and EVERYONE knows that TIME is way more valuable than FLIPS because TIME is how we circlejerk about how smart we all are SOLVE THE GAME

Spoiler: show

I like my quality shitposting time thank you very much!

The only appropriate response tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:10 pm I would also potentially kill Nanook here, I don't believe he has a serious scum read on Alison.

Well I think she's been pushing mostly town so

This is a valid reason to scum read, but I disagree with MR/dizzy being T/T

I think dizzy at least is likely town, and her other pushes that I've seen are some combo of me/mac/wilgy, so like...I think at most one mafia in those four and radishes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:26 pm Yes wilgy is obviously town lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:15 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:14 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:13 pm I'm hard shielding wilgy lol

why

I read him correctly two games in a row so now I believe I can read him correctly every game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:21 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:19 pm like, w!wilgy enters the thread D1 and immediately goes “i’m going to give up and anti-spew”? i doubt it

I don't think this is an absurd thought

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:35 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:21 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:19 pm like, w!wilgy enters the thread D1 and immediately goes “i’m going to give up and anti-spew”? i doubt it

I don't think this is an absurd thought

has he done that before? seems kinda eh to give up on his team like that

I mean it's not giving up yeah its trying to set up for their continued success, playing as a team rather than selfishly

Idk I'm townreading him so I don't think its *likely* I just don't see it as an outlandish thought

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:02 pm Seems unlikely given that what I've said hasn't already

I think there's likely a mafia in this game that's sort of sliding by, that pool basically amounts to wilgy/radishes/c4, I dismissed wilgy because I still think he's town and I don't think radishes fits that well, leaving me with c4, someone that has generally escaped my notice. I do believe this game is a prime target for applying the vibe tell read, and c4 fails it harder than anyone else in the game for me, so. I do think there's probably one between radishes and c4 for vague and poorly defined gamestate reasons that I don't really have the willpower or desire to even attempt to expand on, but I kinda think c4 is more likely.

By nature it's difficult to really expound on or sell, and I didn't/don't expect it to convince anyone. Convincing people isn't really my strongsuit anyways. But, that's my read.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:20 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:18 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:15 am Wilgy is obviously town who next, Alison?

I don't think he is

I re-read MR though and some stuff pings me (specifically the flat-sounding attempt to sound like an egoistical townie angry that people are assuming they're out of their scum range, and the repetition of "witty opening post" making for a kinda stilted entrance). So I [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine.

Do tell me your magical reason.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:31 am Would be pretty funny if I hammered MR tho.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:33 am Do I flip a coin to determine if you live or die MR?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.

Ythistho

Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:26 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:05 pm also if for some reason you think wolves will just do that and they haven’t, the fact that the haven’t would make MR a wolf right? but your not concluding that? or are you?

I'm finding that the likely scenario, BUT I think it also is more so worth keeping in mind while we accrue more data on the people currently on MR.

If any of them specifically flip wolf, prior to us flipping MR, I'd say that just about clears MR. If MR flips Wolf, I'd say it just about clears everyone on the Wagon, with the exception that we think that there's a bussing teammate who just wasn't around to course correct.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:31 pm Simply this:
if MR flips RED, I don't think these are wolves
c4e5g3d5, Alison, MacDougall, NotAnAxehole

I think there's a likely chance MR is red because of them not being hammered for what, a 10-12 hour period of floating 4?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:02 am I haven't played with c4 before.

And idk. They seem like they are quite alright with many a wagon. They were on MR, Nook and Alison. They are cool with anyone going over and persistently keeps people at 4. I think they are the only one who's been on all 3 potential yeets.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:33 am Do I flip a coin to determine if you live or die MR?

I'm - 2 still. If I self vote will you hammer me?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:55 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Too much hammer chatter

Must say, I also found this weird. I never felt in danger of being hammered and I even resisted self voting for the meme because I figured it'd be a town more likely to hammer me, not a scum.

And then he doubled down on it which I guess is not really AI but still is a likely enough scum approach when called out on something.

I dont think I've ever seen scum Wilgz though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:11 pm If I put Wilgy at E-2 do you think he gets hammered?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:15 pm Can't believe scum haven't taken the opportunity to hammer Wilgy.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:17 pm Here is my advice on what to do. First, eliminate Alison so that I won't die today.

If Alison flips scum, then eliminate Mac. If Mac is town, then eliminate Dizzy and Wilgy, in that order.

If Alison flips town, then eliminate me. I will flip town, whereupon which you should eliminate NAA and Wilgy.

I have about a 60% confidence that this solve wins the game. This may not seem like a lot of confidence, but it's actually quite a lot if you think about what I am proposing.