The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:41 pm For now, my scum team consists of:

JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay
JaggedJimmyJay

Tony's call for a full scum team guess can be a productive step forward in the continuing dialogue if numerous players take him up on it.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:02 am TonyStarkPrime, Dunya and Made are the 3 people that aren't leaning towards neutral for me. I see them as potential scums.

I appreciate the response. Can you share at least briefly something about each of those three that rubs you the wrong way?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 am @JaggedJimmyJay

Who is bad with Wilgy?

What do you think of Tony and Dunya at this point?

See my prior post for a GTH guess.

I have some gripes with Tony. Those gripes feel uninspired. He doesn't know Glorfindel like many of us do and it's understandable that he wouldn't be enthusiastic about handing him the key to the city without any background on him. All else aside he did work hard to make the best of his curse.

dunya thoughts to follow:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:58 amI thought the Sig case was convincing but he wasn't my first choice and I can see the points against Dunya for making that case at that time given how it turned out, esp pushing votes away from Wilgy and Tony.

I think she looked civilian when jumped into the thread and rapped her heart out. There are easier ways to get a mislynch in a widely-spread tally like the one we had pre-sig case. I think it's more likely that she pushed that case because she believed in it than because she had some kind of nefarious objective to take advantage of an opportunity. That smells like tinfoil to me, and not the sort that tends to amount to something.

Calling dunya mafia is most easily accomplished by gluing her to one of the other lynch candidates of the day, like Wilgy. That's a weak premise, IMO.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:43 pm Let’s play the build a scum team game. I’ll go first.

Dunya
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova
Long Con

Someone give me better.

And I would ask Speed about Nova but apparently he’s about to answer.

I found this exercise more difficult than I expected to. With a gun to my head:

DrWilgy
Marmot
Dave
novaselinenever
rabbit8

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:03 am

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 am
I wanna ask @novaselinenever if this mafia experience has been difficult to grasp given that he's also new. I'd imagine so.

It really has been. The set-up/format coupled with the fact that it's hard for me to keep track of people's posts throughout the phase, has made it really hard to come up with reads or even follow the game.

That much I can understand. It's a busy thread with a lot of people in it. Nonetheless you must have absorbed something to this point, right? If you had a gun to your head and were forced to name one suspect, who would it be?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:40 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:07 pm

the fact that her communication during chaos day was limited despite her relatively easy curse doesn't help things much either. I don't see the same elohcin drive as I saw in vocaroo mafia. It's a strange juxtaposition.

funny, in vocaroo mafia I was said that I could be bad BECAUSE I was posting a lot. That's the thing with mafia games....you can get called out for acting one way or get called out for acting the opposite.

I can understand why Kyle feels that way, though I don't agree. I get the impression that you just like or perhaps even prefer the Vocaroo format, because in both of those games you were a highly active civilian. In these text games you often aren't.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:49 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:02 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:07 pm Everyone is being quite crazy with their votes right now. I don't like this lack of seriousness in the beginning of big games like this. Everyone thinks they can just play around and vote here or there and it won't matter much. Dudes (and dudettes), if we try hard enough, we might be able to get a scum on Day 1.

I'd like people to weigh in on this post.

This implies Eloh is ready to go, excited to play and down to catch some scum....but then she never tries.

Did she get busy? Or is she faking?

I had to scold you all like you were children. What else was I supposed to say that pertained to mafia? We are not down to 12 yet.

I'm sticking to my civilian soul read on Elohcin. I think she'd at least try to fake it if she was evil.

I thought the worst things about sig's posts were the little pokes he made that went nowhere upon questioning ("speedchuck saying he'd vote dunya was strange", "the game getting started so fast was strange", etc).

It was the wrong move, shit happens. Right now I am feeling like lynching in the DrWilgy/novaselinenever set. speedchuck, can you tell me what you like about the latter?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:32 pm Btw, I still think Jimmy's bad but I don't care to push it cause we need him if I'm wrong.

I don't still think you're bad, so thank you for not thoroughly wasting my time.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:45 pm lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

Presumably, Sloonei scumhunts bad Lup best and anyway, she may not have made the call.

I see no hunting from Lap. Not even pretend hunting.

Sometimes civilians don't hunt. The ones who don't hunt don't pretend either.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:53 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:51 pm "I would sooner _______ than lynch Glorfindel" wouldn't be a bad meme.

Even me?????

He's blue in my rainbow and you're green, so yeah I'd lynch you first.

Really though I think dunya's incursion into the thread in full-blast rap mode, with numerous references to older posts and then a large case on sig was all a good look. This is where Sloonei might say "but she was a spectator and could have already genuinely derived these opinions", but meh. I think it looked civilian.

"I would sooner _______ than lynch Glorfindel" wouldn't be a bad meme.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:49 pm Glorf is like a golden retriever puppy. No way will I ever lynch him.

If Glorfindel said "I'm a member of the town faction" and then someone claimed cop with a red check on him, I would sooner lynch the other guy.

lapluie is one of my stronger civilian reads at the moment. I think her posts sound quite genuine, and I also doubt she kills one of the only two people she knows on this site (Sloonei and Quin) on Night 1 -- especially not when she had his favor.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:31 pm What's the case against TSP?

I didn't care for what I perceived to be shade he was throwing at people who weren't cursed just for not being cursed. TSP, if that's inaccurate then say so.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:27 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:25 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 pm Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.

Me? If he's bad, I don't think he kills two out of his three suspects right off the bat - if he does that he doesn't get to tunnel anymore.

Eh? He voted for Sloonei on D1. What did he have to do with Mac's death?

I just mean that in knowing that Mac was lynched, he'd have killed outside of his suspects to keep his options open.

Spicy lo mein - $3.00

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:25 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 pm Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.

Me? If he's bad, I don't think he kills two out of his three suspects right off the bat - if he does that he doesn't get to tunnel anymore.

Eh? He voted for Sloonei on D1. What did he have to do with Mac's death?

Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.

Quin's late-phase Chinese food rendition of "the case sucks" reminded me of how he reacted to Epi's case against me in Mountain Mafia. I'm not bothered.

Both lynches have been errant. Bummer. There'll at least be additional data to mine this night phase after that 48 hour nonsense festival.

I had to post inspirational quotes with author attributions, probably because I get made fun of for saying "inspired" and its extended family a lot.

"Never go to a doctor whose office plants have died."

- Erma Bombeck

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm @dunya @Kylemii @nutella @Long Con @Jackofhearts2005 @JaggedJimmyJay @Simon

It's a strange aberration, this brainstorm of youth
Though it's lost in translation from fancy to truth
It's hopelessly human, both inside and out
A joyous occasion, no reason to doubt
It's easy somehow, what once was elusive is calling me now

"To me, the extraordinary aspect of martial arts lies in its simplicity. The easy way is also the right way, and martial arts is nothing at all special; the closer to the true way of martial arts, the less wastage of expression there is."

- Bruce Lee

"I really can't believe what a state the Pyramids are in. I thought they had flat rendered sides, but when you get up close, you see how they are just giant boulders balanced on top of each other, like a massive game of Jenga that has got out of hand."

- Karl Pilkington

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:06 pm Freedom is something that you need to actively acquire. It's not something that's given with no strings attached. To be free means to take responsibility, and to prepare yourself for what's to come.

"I’ve got to start eating at home more."

- Jeffrey Dahmer

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:35 pm Tbh I would rather not. I'm new here and how or where I've played beforehands is irrelevant. You can judge me by my posts and plays on this site.

Google is arguably one of the greatest inventions. The search engine is one of the greatest inventions in human history.

- Franklin Foer

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:49 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:37 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:35 pm Tbh I would rather not. I'm new here and how or where I've played beforehands is irrelevant. You can judge me by my posts and plays on this site.

Okay. I judge them as suspicious.

Fair enough. I'll try to change that.

"When you have a dream and someone makes promises they keep breaking, it is hard to recover. You lose hope."

- Yasmine El Rashidi

"Sometimes you will think you can't take it another day. But if you hang in there, one step at a time, you will be able to accomplish more than you ever imagine."

- Taya Kyle

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:17 amone of my other suspects, speedchuck

"No explanation is ever as good as not having one."

- Marty Rubin

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:14 am birdwithteeth11
Dave
Dom
DrWilgy
Elohcin
Glorfindel
Gumshoe
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
MacDougall - Lynched Day 1 - ???
Made
Marmot
novaselinenever
nutella
Quin
sig
Simon
Sloonei
speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime

"This is slavery, not to speak one's thought." - Euripides

"The hardest thing to do is to be true to yourself, especially when everybody is watching." - Dave Chappelle

"This is slavery, not to speak one's thought." - Euripides

"All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a very clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me." - Vizzini, The Princess Bride

"Her majesty is one verb short of a sentence." - Jasper Fforde

"No legacy is so rich as honesty." - William Shakespeare

"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence." - Vince Lombardi

"We don't develop courage by being happy every day. We develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity." - Barbara De Angelis

"I had not intended to love him; the reader knows I had wrought hard to extirpate from my soul the germs of love there detected; and now, at the first renewed view of him, they spontaneously revived, great and strong! He made me love him without looking at me." - Charlotte Brontë

"The power of real debate is in the language and intellectual honesty of the debaters, alongside the engagement of spectators." - Ruzwana Bashir

"I love meeting new people; I think everyone has a story to tell. We should all listen sometimes." - Kim Smith

"Many a man gets weary of clamping down on his rough impulses, which if given occasional release would encourage the living of life with salt in it, in place of dust." - Henry S. Haskins

"From a human point of view, out bodily existence is a fairy tale. At any rate, to the inhabitants of the human world, 'heaven' and 'the next world' are both nothing but fables." - CLAMP

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Bernard M. Baruch

"The conversational overachiever is someone whose grasp exceeds his reach. This is possible but not attractive." - Fran Lebowitz

"Dishonesty, lack of integrity catches up with you." - Dawn Steel

"As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the" highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them." - John F. Kennedy

"He that is proud eats up himself: pride is his own glass, his own trumpet, his own chronicle." - William Shakespeare

"We are always paid for our suspicion by finding what we suspect." - Henry David Thoreau

"Youth is a circumstance you can’t do anything about. The trick is to grow up without getting old." - Frank Lloyd Wright

"All the darkness in the world cannot extinguish the light of a single candle." - St. Francis of Assisi

"The secret of success is sincerity." - Jean Giraudoux

"Suspicion is the cancer of friendship." - Petrarch

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:49 pm Now why can't the rest of you be as sweet as dunya, here. Her mother must be proud. And I just have all of you sitting around here quoting this person or that person, making jokes, and acting like we don't have a lynch ahead of us. Focus, children!

"I'm lucky to be part of a team who help to make me look good, and they deserve as much of the credit for my success as I do for the hard work we have all put in on the training ground."

- Lionel Messi

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:34 pm

dunya is replacing Gumshoe.

"I think the notion of a retirement is just a dreadful, dreadful idea and I hope I never have to do that."

- Michael Moritz

"We who have means and a voice must use them to help those who have neither."

- Jennifer Donnelly

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:14 am birdwithteeth11

Steamed Rice (L) - $3.00

"This is slavery, not to speak one's thought."

- Euripides

"Act your wage."

- [mention]Dave[/mention] Ramsey

"Guilt is cancer. Guilt will confine you, torture you, destroy you as an artist. It's a black wall. It's a thief."

- [mention]Dave[/mention] Grohl.

"There's no one to stop you but yourself."

- [mention]Dave[/mention] Thomas

"The hardest thing to do is to be true to yourself, especially when everybody is watching."

- [mention]Dave[/mention] Chappelle

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:07 pm

"The face is the mirror of the mind, and eyes without speaking confess the secrets of the heart."

- St. Jerome

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:49 am I wish more than anything that I was smart enough to understand what it is that you’re trying to say right now. Sadly, we’ve been robbed of one of our greatest assets

"Don't worry what people say or what people think. Be yourself."

- Brett Hull

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:40 am Jay, am I correct in assuming that you are trying to tell us that a player whose name relates to a substance that doesn’t go well with Bacon (like, Nutella, for instance) is lying?

"Worry never robs tomorrow of its sorrow, it only saps today of its joy."

- Leo Buscaglia

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:58 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:24 pm “The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.”

- Former President of the United States, Lyndon B. Johnson

Not you too, Jay

Why not?

Is that because you're the best, or because you're having an affair with the boss's wife behind his back?

"It is not the lie that passes through the mind, but the lie that sinks in and settles in it, that does the hurt."

- Francis Bacon

"All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a very clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me."

- Vizzini, The Princess Bride

“The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.”

- Former President of the United States, Lyndon B. Johnson

"The will to win, the desire to succeed, the urge to reach your full potential... these are the keys that will unlock the door to personal excellence."

- Confucius

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:50 pm That’s really beautiful, Jay. I was looking forward to playing this game out with friend Sloonei and I am saddened that I will not now have that opportunity

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:45 pm Sloonei, I cannot thank you enough for what you have done for us. I hope my gratitude reaches you on the other side. I will treasure what you have given for the rest of my days.

"I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."

- Maya Angelou

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:43 pm Avengers, time to work for a living.

"The only way to do great work is to love what you do."

- Steve Jobs

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:59 pm

Sloonei has been killed.

"I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the water to create many ripples."

- Mother Teresa

[mention]Marmot[/mention], I count four posts among your 31 which I would describe as of the spammy or irrelevant variety. You've been doing things at an atypical rate. Tell me about your level of investment in this game so far.

I think the letters stand for "I am bored of rainbow lists and wish to convey my reads this goofy way instead, deal with it".

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:30 pm lapluie
novaselinenever
Dave

Whaddya like about nvn?

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], is it typical of TSP to progress his read on you so carefully and gradually?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:35 pm Tbh I would rather not. I'm new here and how or where I've played beforehands is irrelevant. You can judge me by my posts and plays on this site.

Okay. I judge them as suspicious.