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by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 5:24 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Anyway, if anyone has any other questions on my Elo beliefs, I can clear up any questions, but if you dig through my posts searching the word "Elo", you should find where I've expressed my opinion multiple times. It's getting to the point where I believe I'm posting TOO much and people ar...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 5:22 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

i hope sanmateo pays the thread a visit soon, because i want to know what he thinks of Elohcin's responses to my beefs -- even if she didn't respond directly to his own beefs.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 4:13 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

1. IMO keeping an eye on someone is just something I see that isn't the norm for that person it doesn't make me suspect them it just makes me want to watch that person and see if there is more to what I noticed. Suspecting a person is when I have found something worth voting for . 2. Just so you kn...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:55 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

So G-Man used real people words on Day 0, but not on Day 1 or 2. Any theories? I want to let the new players to know that rarely are any Night actions used before Night 1... obviously this game or any game could be different. is there any precedent you call recall for unique role stipulations trigg...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:54 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

for much of Day 1 i gave positive reads of Black Rock. and now as i re-examine the posts, i am not sure why. her second post (first one quoted below) impressed me, but at this point i don't feel that way anymore mostly because there is much more content to judge and it doesn't hold up. some beefs: J...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:34 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

is it typical of Roxy to have so few posts compared with the rest of the players?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

birdwithteeth11 wrote:How many games has TinyBubbles played so far? I know it's been stated she's fairly new but idk how new she is.
i think someone else said this is her second mafia game ever.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:08 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Ok I have a bit of time so if anyone wants to ask me anythingg now is the time or if there are any questions I did answer please point them out. i have a few: 1.) how do you personally differentiate "keeping an eye on a player" and "suspecting a player"? 2.) who are your top sus...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:02 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Really? I guess I am reading her different then you guys. I feel like she is at least trying to address the suspicions this phase i think she has done better in that regard. she finally addressed all of the beefs i had stated in Day/Night 1. but for a while she only seemed interesting in addressing...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 3:00 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

fingersplints wrote:I found her to be more dismissive about accusations
i think this statement could apply to her pretty effectively in this game.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:58 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Ooh sneaky, maybe I'll have to recant my opinion about you being a good guy :p I'm not milking the noob card I just skim a lot and miss things, it's as lame as that >_> Anyway, I'm just gonna go ahead and Vote Elohcin . I'm assuming you're not a lying dirty wolf in sheep's clothing misleading me; a...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:45 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

One new thing that troubles me about Bass is that despite being Day 1's #2 vote recipient and near-lynchee, his only visit on Day 2 so far has not been very useful for reading him. Can you please show me where I said I was suspected MP? I said I wanted to keep an eye on him because I felt like he wa...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

hey Sloonei, tell me what you think about all the RYMers.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:35 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:That said, I have a take home final, my replication, a different paper, and some other things to work on, so those are all reasons that I will almost certainly hardly be around at all tomorrow.
Prove it. Show me your personal schedule pad. And your syllabus. :suspish:

j/k
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:27 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

when y'all were spectating Turnip Head in champs game #3, did your brains melt when 300 different players all claimed cop?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:23 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

How do votes normally play out on this site? Is it typical for some players to cast votes super early in the day, as we've seen a bit of today? Or do people usually wait for the end of the phase before using it? On RYM we usually have unlimited vote changes and everyone's voting and unvoting every ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:18 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

i've never played in more than one mafia game at once. i dunno how y'all can deal with 2 or 3
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:17 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

birdwithteeth11 wrote:That's 30 hours of other conversations and ideas that could come up that you can't take advantage of to make an informed vote. :confused:
indeed. and how do you feel about MP (a definite non-noob being the site founder) placing his vote already?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:15 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

nevermind the first question, fingersplints. you just answered it.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:14 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Yes. I feel like it is more similar to her most recent baddie game I can remember. so you mean her behavior in this game has been comparable to her civilian game in Roger Rabbit and also comparable to her baddie game in something else? sorry to double-request clarification, it's necessary since i d...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

fingersplints wrote:Maybe I am a little bit clouded by my last experience with a civvie Elo in Roger Rabbit.
have you noticed similarities between the Elo of this game and the Elo of that game?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 2:02 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

seemingly a few people voted during that final stretch without actually making a post to indicate it. unless i'm missing them. it's hard to tell because there are no timestamps for the poll votes. and that is making it difficult for me to assess players thoroughly.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 1:20 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

i already analyzed the people who voted for Golden. i'll look back to the last hour or so of Day 1 and see who did not vote for him during that critical stretch. maybe someone was content to avoid a known townie bandwagon.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 12:54 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

sanmateo wrote:mp is definitely bad too
cool why though
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 12:42 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

I'm bummed Epignosis died. i wanted to lock horns with him all game long. :P
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 12:35 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

i'd assume it's possible, yes (that Adam Smith made Malthus kill himself). but who knows? we'll see about that after Night 2 based on who dies and how many.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 12:26 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Re: Sloonei and MP: where i agree with you both is that Elohcin could stand to be less dismissive of her accusers. i don't think it's hard to understand why the things we've all pointed to are being viewed suspiciously, and an earnest townie should acknowledge that. so, Elohcin: how reasonable do yo...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 12:10 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

http://www.nieuwsbladtransport.nl/Portals/0/wosimages/Nieuwsfoto/Bedrijven/IMO_logo.jpg http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120614021558/villains/images/6/6c/G_man-1-.jpg http://jwilberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/knot1.jpg http://francis-moran.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/bad-news...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 12:03 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Hope that makes sense. it does. here's a separate question: she at one point insinuated that you might be a selfish player at times -- which could be perceived as a strong criticism and potentially even offensive (i am sure she didn't mean it to be). given your experience playing with her, do you t...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 11:56 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

G-Man, if you could turn back time who would you have voted for instead of Golden?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 11:55 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

It's interesting that you disagree because literally every defense she has made seems fabricated to me. I still can't fathom how she hasn't made up all of her thoughts on everyone. Normally I would agree with you; I almost always wait until the last possible minute. She has defended herself plenty ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 11:47 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Elo's responses don't bode well for her. ;) I just can't see any reason to wait. This said, I still will discuss suspects. Votes Elo why don't you like her responses? what could she have said that you would have liked? and there's always a reason to wait when you only get one vote all day long.
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 11:46 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

thank you for your responses Elohcin. you're right that nobody should have any certainty about anyone else on Day 1, just as i had no certainty of you. that's why i put all that content up for you to address -- not because i think you're some kind of clear-cut mafioso, but because you deserve the op...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 10:52 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

I'm more puzzled over the lack of alignment reveals than role reveal. Not knowing who/what Epi was is giving me nightmares and I'm not even asleep yet. Obviously this is not an issue for the usual scum kill, as it's generally a safe bet that they won't kill their own, but the alignment is what i wo...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 10:46 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

I agree with this as well. The Serial Killer would most likely want to rid himself of mafia first so he can be the only killer, right? So...let him be until mafia is gone, then figure out who he is and lynch him. this is... not a good idea. even if the serial killer is only interested in killing ma...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 10:40 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

Ooh sneaky, maybe I'll have to recant my opinion about you being a good guy :p I'm not milking the noob card I just skim a lot and miss things, it's as lame as that >_> Anyway, I'm just gonna go ahead and Vote Elohcin . I'm assuming you're not a lying dirty wolf in sheep's clothing misleading me; a...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 10:20 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Aw G-Man, i get it. well if you change your mind, i'll be nearby. :sigh:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 10:18 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

HEY ELOHCIN here are the posts i made casting suspicion on you. i've still not seen responses to these specific points. i am not utterly convinced you're bad, so you might be able to influence my perspective for the better if you offer a defense. anything is better than nothing. http://www.mafiathe...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 10:10 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

You want me to paddle you, G-Man? Have you been a bad boy?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sat May 23, 2015 9:39 am
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Elo, your interaction with MP is not wholly relevant to my suspicion of you. Did you read my accusations?
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 10:39 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

If you're asking would I be willing to vote to confirm Epi was mafia then yes I would. i was just looking for your response so i could gauge whether you really didn't realize Epi is dead or milked the noob card. :p at the moment my top suspect is probably Elohcin. i'll re-evaluate everyone later in...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 10:01 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

I don't think Epi's style is inherently suspicious. It think the points he's made have consistently been unfair and misleading. And his vote was really bad. He's a lot like old Mac for you RYMers. Also, I can't emphasize this enough. I'm certain that Epi is mafia. We haven't seen an Elo and Epi maf...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 9:54 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

I think adam smith can be real helpful role to help catch baddies. I mean if you want to just catch one indy and lose the most helpful info role the civs have then poor old george will be on his own. i don't necessarily disagree with you. it wouldn't be too huge a gamble for that player to try to g...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 9:42 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Any RYMers able to provide insight regarding aether? I have no read on her. I remember her being quiet in early parts of the game when I played, but since she got NKed N1, I haven't really seen her in action as the game progresses. she has played at a slow pace consistently in recent games. it's a ...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 9:38 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

I would propose that if Adam Smith is still alive (hopefully he's not Metalmarsh), then he should try to build a case against Malthus, who he probably targetted last night. This game doesn't allow role reveals, but I suppose he can come up with some reason to call him bad and then tunnel on him, no...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 9:32 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

Honestly I don't see much point in analysing why mafia killed someone. That's WIFOM trap. And if we apply Occam's Razor, the fact is that Metalmarsh was a player who wasn't really attracting suspicions from anyone, and was being fairly active, voicing suspicions on others and showing interest in th...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 8:40 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

i reviewed all of MM's posts to see what insights i could dig up. and i came up with very little. he cast some degree of suspicion upon all of these people: DDL Golden (town) Bass JJJ MP Elohcin but didn't go hard after any of them. he made that one big post against MP for the word "transparenc...
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 8:24 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 1]

sanmateo wrote:i already said this a few times tho, are yall skipping over my posts? people do that in rym and i hate it
i think we noobs are going to have to scream a little louder to ensure our contributions are noticed. i don't think my stuff is getting read by most others either. :consoling:
by JaggedJimmyJay
Fri May 22, 2015 8:04 pm
Forum: Previous Side Missions
Topic: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Replies: 4159
Views: 170538

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 2]

actually i hadn't realized the kills are specified by the targeting role too, so that helps. we know MM was killed by the mafia team, so that's something i can work with.

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