The Syndicate

Importantly with millers, I am operating on the assumption that the miller is informed of their role. If not, then that represents a host lie in my eyes.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:23 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:18 pm The definition of "bastard" seems to vary wildly around the Internet.

The definition I am most accustomed to would be: a game or role is bastardized if the host overtly lies to you or obscures information that you cannot reasonably uncover.
- The second bit there would mean that millers, godfathers, et al wouldn't be "bastard" in a community where they occur frequently -- players can reasonably anticipate them.

Some folks use the term much more broadly to refer to any kind of game mechanic that is non-standard. I don't care for that depiction, but no matter.

do you think that hidden godfathers and hidden unaware millers are a common occurance on the syndicate? i wouldn't say that they are common based off of my experience from the last half of 2020

I'm not sure I'd say anything is common 'round these parts. We do everything with equal rarity.

A number of us came from rateyourmusic originally, and games there had godfathers more often than they didn't have godfathers. In that environment, it was something town always kept a lookout for. There, failing to account for a godfather would have just been a foolish thing to do, and newcomers adapted quickly when old timers made it clear cop checks should not be viewed as absolute. On The Syndicate, it's difficult to pinpoint a consistent program or game culture since folks come from all over the place and our games have become a thick mixture of everything -- for that reason I would be less inclined to feature a godfather in a closed setup unless town was given some explicit means of guessing that one exists.

The definition of "bastard" seems to vary wildly around the Internet.

The definition I am most accustomed to would be: a game or role is bastardized if the host overtly lies to you or obscures information that you cannot reasonably uncover.
- The second bit there would mean that millers, godfathers, et al wouldn't be "bastard" in a community where they occur frequently -- players can reasonably anticipate them.

Some folks use the term much more broadly to refer to any kind of game mechanic that is non-standard. I don't care for that depiction, but no matter.

I've added it to the queue.