The Syndicate

[mention]sig[/mention] Do you have any thoughts on my LC analysis in this post?

dunyadar sounds like a swear in a foreign language i wouldn't recognize.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:29 pm I still think Sig is a shadow of his former self.

what's this mean?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:28 pm It seems I'm going to have to spend another vote to save Sloonei in in this game.

Not if people move their damn votes.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:26 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:09 am ok from skimming rej's iso

people I think are not super likely to be his teammate for various reasons:
boo
dunya
colin
creature
ddl
sig

people I think have reasonable equity as his teammate:
speedchuck
jack
sloonei
lc

(leaving nanook and zemmi as null and in poe by default)

this is my functional poe for d3 (if I survive, if not well now yall have it)

Nutella had alot of good content that I don't have time to go over, so instead I'm just going to pull this up.

I think we should be lynching out of the bottom six today. Personally I'd take out Nanook, TH, and LC that leaves Sloonie, Jack or Speed.

I'm going to ISO Speed really fast before phase ends and see what I see, but I think using POE based off last vote is the right way to go here.

I'm a bad lynch and I don't endorse a speedchuck lynch. Tell me about him Jack, though.
Why are you removing TH and LC?
that's almost THC.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:19 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:18 pm Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

Did you even read the post?

Yeah. Like idk why you said the things that were bad for me and Boo were bad for me and Boo.

See if you'd actually read the post you'd notice that I came out of it feeling good about you.
I felt bad about boo because rej made no comment on him at all until slapping a random unexplained vote on him mid-day 2, then quickly moved it off of him. It looked like an empty attempt to distance himself from a teammate. I had similar misgivings about his vote for you, which I expressed, but ultimately came off of because his vote remained on you. I guess it's possible to read those votes the other way around: you were the distanced partner, and boo was the random civilian being shaded. But if I am being asked to choose to pick one over the other, I'd say the boo vote looks worse. Or maybe you're both town. I find it unlikely that he'd vote for two partners at once.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:40 pm Rainbow reads based exclusively on these interactions:
DDL
speedchuck
Jack
Colin
dunya
sig
Long Con
boo

Where's Creature?

Lol whoopsie.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:18 pm Sloonei posts a big thingie and aside from DDL, “good look for X” and “not a great look for Y” appear to be slapped on to interactions at random.

Not a good look for Sloonei.

Did you even read the post?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:15 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:57 pm i actually voted for sig because i was talking to him on discord, (no other reason today for my vote), while i read up on the thread and caught up. then i got sidetracked doing other things.

i find it interesting how ddl followed me there though and used the line "lets see if dunya's scumdar is still working" - it's like a preemptive excuse should i be wrong (does ddl know i will be wrong?) to throw me under the bus. i didn't like that post.

Well guess who I'm not going to talk to next time I see them in discord.

Hey sig who do you wanna lynch?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:15 pm Luffy s corrupt for sure. Argumentative and thread steering. When he's civ he shoots from the hip. I'm getting a warrant. [VOTE: DDL] aubergine

DDL's interactions with Rej would be incredible distancing if they're partners.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:40 pm Rainbow reads based exclusively on these interactions:
DDL
speedchuck
Jack
Colin
dunya
sig
Long Con
boo

i notice nanook is also missing?

I didn't find any significant interactions between nanook and rej (in rej's posts at least). He could be marked down as conspicuously absent.

Colin & Rej

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:21 am

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 am Also rip Mac voting for me, nothing new there. He can't read me worth a damn.

Straight for that card ay.

Anywho so far Creature and Rej are top town reads. I think Nutella is also town. I'd like to see fellow towns towning a bit harder.

I think we're also looking at wolfjay lol. I know he says he's busy but I can't help but feel if he was town he'd have used the posts he has made for more townie purposes. More FPS to see what happens less "please hold for assistance.

Jack worries me. Speedchuck also.

But Dragomir doing the ol' "hello fellow townies" thing can take some scrutiny for now.

Right on all counts imo. Although nutella/speed argument feels contrived right now

Colin's handling of his rej read was one of the primary reasons he was my top choice to be lynched yesterday. It starts here with an implicit town read of rej via his blanket agreement with mac. (I'll note, however, that nutella raised the point that that sort of blanket agreement/sheeping of another player is more generally a town tell than a scum tell)

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm Mac and Rej are bad.

I like Mac so far but Rej is pinging me slightly in a purely tone/gut way.

Then this happened. There was no direct statement of a Rej townread earlier, but he seemed to suggest that he supported Mac's read. Now he's contradicting it.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:43 pm I don’t know a damn thing about Rej but I remember nodding along to that case

This is another vague expression of suspicion. Not too dissimilar from the previous one.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 pm Someone who's got a better feel for this thread than I do right now, please answer this:

Are Rej and Drago compatible as scum partners?

I’ve never met either of these people in my life

This seems to be more a general comment on his familiarity with Rej and drago as players, not a specific read based on this game. I'll note that colin has definitely played with Drago in the past though.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:18 pm How do phone users play mafia even

Poorly

Gimme reads on rej, boo, and nutella.

Rej: no read, idk that man

boo: flip flopping, thought town yesterday, now it seems like they keep digging themselves in a hole logically b/w their suspicion of me (and apparently abandoning it) and the insistence on culling Zemmi, I might vote here

nutella: town

This is where my gripe with Colin came to fruition. After starting with an implied town read and working down to a vague suspicion, he now expresses the nullest possible read on the player. My reasons for suspecting this have already been stated and remain true.
However, in light of my previous post I'm inclined to suggest the alternative: Town Colin is only half paying attention this game. Rej is a player he's unfamiliar with, and not an extremely vocal member of this game. It is plausible that Colin might have caught a glimpse of something early, then forgotten it later on. For what it's worth, I pressed him to elaborate on the read and he gave us this:

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:43 pm So with Rej I didn’t understand any of the arguments he was making early on even when I was kinda skeeving on DDL and he was also. Idk what to think now

That's not much, but it exists.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:44 pm I don’t want to vote for Sloonei or Rej c’mon

But then he came back toward the end of the day and dropped this post. Rej, Colin, and I were the three main wagons behind the primary TonyStark wagon. Colin expresses a lack of desire to vote for Rej after all that flipflopping and implied negativity earlier. In fairness he did end up voting for Rej, which was the vote that put him over. I can definitely see town Colin making that vote. I'm a familiar commodity for him, so it's more likely that he'd have a sense of how to read me in this game, whereas Rej is an unknown. If he has to cast a self-preservation vote, going for the unknown is the preferable option in that scenario. But I can't award him full credit for voting to lynch the bad guy (Colin said so himself), as this was self-preservation with all the attention on him. I can go either way on this vote.

I thought Colin looked bad yesterday, but I have an easier time seeing a civilian in his posts in light of Rej's flip. I am not ready to remove him from the pool of suspects, but there's enough in his favor that I am not compelled to campaign for his lynch at the moment.

Anything he can contribute down the stretch today would be fantastic, obviously. I'll start with the obvious question:
[mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] why did you vote for rej instead of me?

hey can we not have me be in the lead again today?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:48 pm i would give colin a nudge more green from rej's handling.

and ftr, i hold no weight on vote analysis to "town clearing" people on this website anymore. you're all a bunch of heartless bussers.

I almost feel the same way, but the fact that rej never did anything about his colin prods keeps me from taking it to the bank. He even left his votes away from Colin when he was one of the viable counterwagons at the end of the day.
though to be fair, rej seems to have been absent for the last few hours.

Long Con & Rej:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:30 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:13 pmHis (DoWm's) level of critical engagement has been a little less than I'm used to seeing. I don't find that in itself to be a particularly inspiring case, but it's worth exploring.

That's where I'm at, actually. I'm not super-inspired by the Dom vote either, and I wouldn't be surprised if a Dom lynch ended badly. When I went to compare the two games, I kept an open mind... if I had seen the same Dom, then I would have posted about it. Like I said, I found the differences striking, and it served to solidify my vote more. The scales are unbalanced without Dom here to defend himself, but I'm on the heavy side of the scales.. something else will have to tip the balance enough to chanfge my vote, if Dom isn't going to bring the weight down.

I have a sexy angleshooting alternate vote in mind, but I won't discuss that openly... I'll just let it inform my vote should the winds blow that way.

Who else is worth looking at?

I don't mind the Rej and Drago wagons too much. I haven't yet looked at DDL to see if he's been as insincere as some say... which I think is the main reason he has votes?

This is a bit salady, though to be fair I did kind of prompt that. Rej is a viable counterwagon behind Dom. LC has nothing else to say about him on Day 1 and his vote stated put on Dom.

This post is interesting. I remember it well, and it catches my attention here because it's not about rej. I had just finished ISOing Drago and rej as we were getting close to the Day 1 deadline. LC had recently expressed interest in both of them. He responded favorably to my Drago analysis, but had no comment on my rej analysis. This post by LC gave young Sloonei the confidence to cast a vote for Drago: support from a (then) town read for a certain case as I was frantically looking for a vote that felt right. I take responsibility for my own vote and don't mean to suggest that I voted where I did because of LC. It was my vote and I was wrong. But LC expressed support over Drago rather than Rej. Drago was town. Rej was scum.

Casual chatter about unlocked nights. Okay.

And that's it. I am looking at LC through scum colored glasses here, but it is not difficult to see a partnership.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:43 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

you're too rational and switzerland to be good

I agree with this vote.

I forgot Creature in my final analysis because all his stuff was way back at the beginning.

he'd slot in somewhere in the orange section, probably between sig and LC.

Rej interactions

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:34 am

Zemmi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:23 am Never watched it but I just realized we can't claim any kind of information in this game ;-; My least favorite rule.

+ its closed rolemadness as it seems

Casual fluff post in response to ZemmiHead. This tells me nothing on its own, but it exists.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

Soft shade thrown at sig. Gut instinct is to say this is a good look for sig, but not enough here to get a strong read. I could see it as distancing as well. The exchange continue in a similar manner. It definitely looks manufactured, but I am not able to gauge whether or not sig is part of the manufacturing process as well. His response is a literal shrug.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:59 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:04 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm Lol creature is town

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Eh?

Dom probably suspects you of basing your town gutread on Creature on TMI. (My first guess).
I also give Creature a townread, but he set his vote and he was quite engageful. Tho my read on him bases on post-voting.

Why did you give him a towncard?

This involves two dead players and a living one. We know that Dom and nutella are both town now, which makes this exchange look even weirder. Creature remains, and it would seem this post exists so that Rej can slap a town read on him. The whole thing is odd. Odd does not need to equal bad, but in this instance we know that the oddness is related to badness. If Creature is town then Rej took a very peculiar route to arrive at slapping a town read on an enigmatic civilian. If Creature is bad, then Rej took a peculiar route to paint his partner favorably. I still have not played with rej prior to this game, so I don't know exactly what to expect from him, but this interaction feels like it makes more sense if Creature is his partner. Slight point against Creature.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:06 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:03 am Oh man oh man oh man

How painful can boredom be?

Do you have some hunches? Some impressions? For example, from some of my posts? Or others like nut/dom or Mac whom you followed up with voting.

This also exists. Generic prods. Tells me nothing about Creature on its own. Nothing tells me this can't be a teammate interaction.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:35 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:23 pm Something about Rej made me feel suspicious but I can't put my finger on it.

Why do people trust Rej?

Seems you had your hunches on me, but you didn't dig in further, how come?

Another generic prod, this time directed at DDL after the latter had expressed vague suspicion against rej. This does not tell me much, though I want to say that DDL's handling of rej on Day 1 was a good look. But I'm not dealing with that directly right now.

Hypothetical mechanics chatter with Jack. Okay.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:39 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:37 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:35 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:23 pm Something about Rej made me feel suspicious but I can't put my finger on it.

Why do people trust Rej?

Seems you had your hunches on me, but you didn't dig in further, how come?

Hunches are hunches, it's hard to rationalize them in a way that doesn't involve writing stupid things.

So you see yourself in a possibility of writing "stupid things"? Like a slip?

What? This post feels super awkward. That could mean either that Rej is uncomfortable with DDL's pressure on him, or because Rej is trying to make his interactions with a partner look authentic. DDL's response looks much more authentic, for what it's worth, and was immediately followed up with a vote. If this is a feigned casual interaction, DDL didn't get the memo.

Yeah DDL is town.
Yup

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:44 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:32 am Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Oh spicy. nutella was all up in speedchuck's business because of this exchange, but in hindsight I think it's a very good look for speed (His follow-up posts are more relevant to this read.). speedchuck picks out a relatively minute detail from one of rej's posts and uses that as grounds to approach a new suspicion against him. He draws it out in a way that looks too nuanced not to be authentic. Good look for Mr Chuck.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:22 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:42 pm Wait other people are sus of Dunya too?

Cool beans hop onto this gray train and let's ride it to kill station.

At this point no

Rej tells nanook he's not suspicious of dunya "at this point", perhaps implying that he will be later. Slight townie point for dunya. Nothing on nanook.

He produced a big long post of reads Day 2 focused almost entirely on the people who were voting for him. This seemed like an odd tactic, but it makes more sense now that we know he's bad. His bandwagon grants him an easy point of entry into the business of developing reads, and also probably frees him from the challenge of needing to deal with too many teammates (I wouldn't be surprised if at least one partner was bussing him, but it's unlikely his bandwagon was comprised of a majority of scum). The reads he produces are as follow:
DDL: shrug with slight shade.
speedchuck: town
Jack: "less townlean" but with a hedge and a shrug. This reads like rej couldn't make up his mind what he wanted to say. Not a great look for Jack.
Tony: More like Towny. Twice characterizes his ISO as "interesting" and throws nothing but shade before pivoting to another "50/50" stance. Rej was setting Tony up as an obvious scapegoat, but didn't quite commit to it.
Sloonei: Seems to give me a favorable read but doesn't actually express a stance. Suggests that my interactions with nutella deserve a second look. So far speedchuck is the only player rej has committed a firm read to in this post. He has shaded the rest of us at least a little, but not committed to anything. So maybe speedchuck is the partner here. I'm not inclined to believe that based on the previous interaction I mentioned, but he's the outlier in this bunch. The rest of the reads are varying degrees of noncommittal.
He ends it by placing votes on boo and Jack. Interesting. I did a quick search to make sure I hadn't missed some interactions with boo prior to this vote. There was nothing. The Jack vote also stands out in that rej seemed to express more skepticism about Tony in this post, and perhaps similar skepticism of DDL. These votes alone don't tell me a whole lot. His later interactions might.

A little while later:

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:53 pm changing from boo to TSP

Not a great look for boo. Not that I think boo was ever actually in danger of being lynched yesterday, but this is a flimsy ass vote all the way around that didn't last long. I can see soft distancing easily here.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:15 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:01 pm For me all three of Tony, Colin, and Sig are in a weird place where I want to suspect them overall but they each had like one post that felt really towny.

What is the current case on Collin? I must admit, same as he nullreads me I also nullread him, gonna revisit it. I missed some posts from the second half of the current DP and I am still working through it.

This exists. Is rej trying to stoke the flames on the Colin wagon, or is he just pretending to look interested? Let's find out!

Thrilled to see sig. I don't know why this post exists. Slight townie point for sig for similar reasons to my point about DDL above.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:37 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:34 pm It's Friday the thirteenth. Maybe jack can be lynched.

Wouldn’t count anyway cause there are two players that get lynched today.

What is your case on Collin? help me to get uptodate

Expresses more interest in Colin. Still not really producing anything on that front though. This is a redo of the previous post. I'll give Colin a slight point for Rej's persistence, but that's still not much.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:47 pm

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:15 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:53 pm changing from boo to TSP

After TSPs flyby on me I'll trust you over him and move my LC vote to [VOTE: Tony] aubergine

I was skimming through your ISO and I saw you doesn't have any clear stance on Dunya rn or I missed it. I am interested to hear about it since based on her votes she suspects us as scum. I can't get a good read on her rn.

Now he's doing the same thing with dunya. This post seems to be more personally directed at boo than his previous ones (which were directed at nutella and Jack respectively). What does that mean? I don't know.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:03 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:59 pm So general thoughts on lc? I've seen back and forth but really no solid consensus. Personally this is the first game in awhile where he doesn't seem scummy to me. Buuuuut, every game I've played where I thought he was scum he was civ. Ergo since I dont suspect him I now do suspect him slightly based of that. I'll be reading through his stuff and see what I see.

didnt like his mac and dom interactions earlier in the game
his gif reaction in the NP was fun tho, I liked that
have nothing to say against his vote placements this DP

A bullet point list of observations about LC. Bad, null, good. Okay. This is his first and only acknowledgement of LC's existence in this game.

My strongest read coming out of this exercise is that DDL is town. I already felt that way coming in, but this strengthened the read. speedchuck also gets a slightly less town lean here.
I could see boo as a partner. The interactions are scant and rej appeared to pretend to have a suspicion against him at some point, but that came and went without an ounce of substance. That last minute comment on LC looks arbitrary and contains nothing substantial anyway. It appears that his vote remained on Jack til the end of day yesterday, which may be a point in Jack's favor.
Rej kicked the tires on the dunya and colin wagons toward the end of the day, but it does not appear that anything came of that. For the sake of taking a stance, I'll call it a favorable look for each of them. There are a few hollow interactions with sig that I'm unable to do much with, so I'll say that's a negative given how vacuous the interactions are.

Rainbow reads based exclusively on these interactions:
DDL
speedchuck
Jack
Colin
dunya
sig
Long Con
boo

Everybody else is null, though I have not actively considered those who are conspicuously absent much. LC gets a negative nod because he was mentioned at the very last second, but there are others who don't show up at all in this ISO.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:34 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:50 am For what it’s worth I was going to vote for Rej until boo threatened to flip to me if I did that. Would have put me in a tie for the lead (or second place), if memory serves correctly. So a Rej vote would have been suicide or close to it.

Source? Boo's votes look sketchy with rej's flip. Nova just posted the poll results thread if anyone wants to take a look. That thing was tight

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:39 pm I will switch to rej if it means guaranteeing my survival. But colin is my top choice today.

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:41 pm But then I'd just switch back to you.

For what it’s worth I was going to vote for Rej until boo threatened to flip to me if I did that. Would have put me in a tie for the lead (or second place), if memory serves correctly. So a Rej vote would have been suicide or close to it.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:01 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:30 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:28 pm We should probably lynch boo. He scares me.

Is this just because of his name, or is there more to it?

Pun notwithstanding... I've seen him scooch past suspicion as a baddie before. Very unassuming baddie game. I'd be remiss if I didn't point some attention at him.

I ISO’d him yesterday and thought his Day 1 looked very good, but his Day 2 left a lot to be desired. That was before he posted a Big Ass case against me, which I didn’t love but I have a slight bias in that area.

He’s kind of a back burner suspect for me at the moment, but i’ll have a clearer idea of things if/when I find the motivation to do some interactive isos.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:28 pm We should probably lynch boo. He scares me.

Is this just because of his name, or is there more to it?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:59 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:52 pm Flinching isn't really LC's style

I mean it was a weak vote and he never seemed to consider alternatives. Like he did on Day 1.

Did I really do that on Day 1 though? Or was I just making you believe I was?

It looked like you did. What reason would civilian Long Con have to be deceptive in that instance?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:17 pm I'm here thinking of the latest post from Jack isn't a reaction by scumjack to me calling him an authority on creature and giving him an opportunity to bandwagon.

I do not follow. Is this a good look for jack?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:52 pm Flinching isn't really LC's style

I mean it was a weak vote and he never seemed to consider alternatives. Like he did on Day 1.

I’ll do things eventually this phase. The semester just ended and I’m mentally fatigued. Interactive ISOs are in order.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:39 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:29 am It is the wrong course to take. Why me?

Your vote was bad.

Civs don't have bad votes sometimes?

They do. But your vote for me felt weak and you never flinched from start to finish. It was bad in that it felt like a vote a bad guy would make.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:29 am It is the wrong course to take. Why me?

Your vote was bad.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:00 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:57 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:44 pm I don’t want to vote for Sloonei or Rej c’mon

who do you want to vote for?

I could go for Long Con or Jack I guess. Seem to be playing within respective scum metas, plus I will never figure them out anyway

i don't see either of those happening in the next 8 minutes

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:44 pm I don’t want to vote for Sloonei or Rej c’mon

who do you want to vote for?

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:41 pm But then I'd just switch back to you.

that's rude

I will switch to rej if it means guaranteeing my survival. But colin is my top choice today.

Does anyone care to vote for colin?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:01 pm LC CFD? Was there anything close to such a thing??

I floated his name and remain skeptical, but there was never a big push.

was gonna ISO him but i'm fuckin tired right now. i'm gonna hang around til the deadline but this phase has been exhausting for me and i don't have much mafia energy in me right now.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:42 pm It seemed very manufactured to me.

Which parts?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:32 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:28 pm Oh Tony is way ahead now so I'll move my vote back to [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine then second place is a three way tie

Yea mainly that, it seems like there was a concentrated effort to push him under and it's really inactive now. Which in my mind means we're moving in the wrong direction.

The biggest pop ins I disliked were dunya dropping a bote and ddl switching his off of me. And onto tony correct?

Are you suggesting that boo and I are scum partners?
Why can't I be a civilian who other civilians want to save?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:28 pm Oh Tony is way ahead now so I'll move my vote back to [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine then second place is a three way tie

Can you not?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:24 pm I dont know if I like that last minute push to save sloonie

Why is that what's happening? Who is saving me?

Unvote Long Con
[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:12 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:08 pm

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:07 pm Although you could move your LC vote to TSP and then I'd be willing to consider moving my vote on you to Colin. Sloonei

What does my vote have to do with your vote?
What’s your strongest point against Tony?

You're in a position to be voting to keep yourself alive. I'm in a position I may need to but don't currently need to, but it's in the back of my mind.

Outside of you, everyone else who spoke on it agreed he came across as nonsensically pingy last night. What he's contributed today has just made him look worse.

I didn’t disagree with the reads on tony’s responses to my question last night. I just expressed that my mind was not made up. I can see myself voting for him. In fact, I already have, but I moved the vote elsewhere. It doesn’t appear that LC is going down, and if moving back to tony helps me stay alive I’ll do that.

That said, I would like to take a closer look at LC when I have a moment.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:19 pm I have the worst cramps and pain of my life.

Moved my vote to Tony because I don't sloonei lynched today.

I still think boo is antitown

Laters gators sorry I can't be around more sloon

Ironically, I only have trouble with the mention tags when i’m typing short names like boo.

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:07 pm fuck, that isn't how mentions work

It should be. I had to delete the buggy little mention pop up when I was responding to you. I have no idea why it didn’t work in the post itself. Someone get an admin in here.

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:07 pm Although you could move your LC vote to TSP and then I'd be willing to consider moving my vote on you to Colin. Sloonei

What does my vote have to do with your vote?
What’s your strongest point against Tony?

boo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:02 pm Any takers on Long Con?

There never fuckin' is man. Jack can claim being impossible to lynch all he wants, but I'm pretty sure he's gotta be in second place behind LC for the title on that one.

This is an old meta read that might still be true.

Any takers on Long Con?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:57 pm Then again maybe my reads are all way off and I'm looking at the game all wrong.

I can still see boo as mafia. I’d lean town, but it’s not a strong read.

Can we start to move our votes off of me now?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:10 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:35 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:18 pm How do phone users play mafia even

Poorly

Gimme reads on rej, boo, and nutella.

Rej: no read, idk that man

boo: flip flopping, thought town yesterday, now it seems like they keep digging themselves in a hole logically b/w their suspicion of me (and apparently abandoning it) and the insistence on culling Zemmi, I might vote here

nutella: town

What gave you a "slight gut read" of Rej yesterday?

I err on the side of suspicion sometimes.

Can you point to anything in particular that gave you that gut read?