The Syndicate

Kyle, who should we lynch tomorrow?

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] where dem juicy thoughts at?

FZ. wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:13 pm Never mind, I found it. This reminds me, what happened in the thread that made jjj say there was a curse?

Dyslexicon kept saying cryptic things that didn't seem to make sense

FZ. wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:58 pm Can anyone give me a reason to trust Wilgy?

@linki: thanks

On Day 1 he had his vote on me late but then changed it to kyle and tried to get a late bandwagon against him (or at least appeared to try). Scum wilgy could have just stayed on me without much trouble

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:07 pm everyone completely ignored my long late-night post

I don't think I still believe my Jay tinfoil at the moment, but I had a great point on Spacedaisy and everyone completely ignored it (maybe because of Dizzy's plea not to talk about that thing but I really didn't follow that, I think I missed something in that exchange that others picked up on)

I followed your point on daisy. Disagreed on Jay, but daisy is a good suspect.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:03 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:58 pm asdlfka;sldf ok Jay is much better at this interaction analysis than I am but there are too many likely teammates

I do think spacedaisy is the best choice for next lynch but LC, Marmot, and maybe even wilgy are looking plausible.

What about kyle?

oh yeah kyle also. ughh too many possibilities when there are only 2

I feel good about the POE. It's only going to be Day 3, each team has lost one member, and we're able to (I think) rule out a handful of players from suspicion.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:58 pm asdlfka;sldf ok Jay is much better at this interaction analysis than I am but there are too many likely teammates

I do think spacedaisy is the best choice for next lynch but LC, Marmot, and maybe even wilgy are looking plausible.

What about kyle?

FZ. wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:57 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:47 pm

FZ. wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:25 pm Updated rainbow in response to Day 2 results:
Epignosis
Speedchuck
Macdougall
JaggedJimmyJay
nutella
Marmot
Dyslexicon
FZ.
Drwilgy
novaselinenever
Spacedavey
Kylemii
Long Con

I mostly agree with your list (obviously I'm higher in the green list), but can I ask what makes people suspicious of Daisy? I admit, there are a few pages I didn't read, but did something happen or is it just because she suspected you? Because that was her in her previous form, no?

Her treatment of LoRab, or lack thereof. Like I said in a previous post, every mention daisy makes of lorab is accompanied by a shrug.

I actually get that. Lorab was just a null to me. Maybe I missed some of Lorab's posts, but she just flew under the radar. There was nothing there. I completely relate to the shrug.

If it weren't for the LoRab lynch, Daisy would still be a top town read. But when looking over how each player handled the events of yesterday, and how LoRab treated them, Daisy sticks out as somebody who does not shine.
What do you think of kyle?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:32 pmSloonei, I think you ask a lot of weird questions that doesn't go anywhere or that you can easily find the answer to yourself. But that's cool if you're town anyway. =P

Come on Dizzy, this isn't the first time we've played together.

There is no meta cloud following you yet. I will work on that.

I promise all of my questions are designed to go somewhere.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:40 pm Well, I was the countertrain to Lorab's lynch, so it's pretty likely that at least one of her teammates are on me: Epignosis, MacDougall, JaggedJimmyJay, FZ. Lorab was after Epi a lot, though she didn't vote for him. That's a negative tick on him, but I'd vote any of the other three before him. JJJ I think looks the worst out of those voters, and I would consider a vote for him tomorrow.

I skipped a couple of pages in frantic catchup after work near the end, so I don't have a really firm grasp of how the changing votes went. Outlier votes, before Lorab was at the top, are worth looking at. Back when Epi and I were tied for the lead.

LoRab voted for epi. Why do you think a baddie was on you? Do you think they would have let the day end in a tie like that?

FZ. wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:25 pm Updated rainbow in response to Day 2 results:
Epignosis
Speedchuck
Macdougall
JaggedJimmyJay
nutella
Marmot
Dyslexicon
FZ.
Drwilgy
novaselinenever
Spacedavey
Kylemii
Long Con

I mostly agree with your list (obviously I'm higher in the green list), but can I ask what makes people suspicious of Daisy? I admit, there are a few pages I didn't read, but did something happen or is it just because she suspected you? Because that was her in her previous form, no?

Her treatment of LoRab, or lack thereof. Like I said in a previous post, every mention daisy makes of lorab is accompanied by a shrug.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:32 pmSloonei, I think you ask a lot of weird questions that doesn't go anywhere or that you can easily find the answer to yourself. But that's cool if you're town anyway. =P

Come on Dizzy, this isn't the first time we've played together.

Updated rainbow in response to Day 2 results:
Epignosis
Speedchuck
Macdougall
JaggedJimmyJay
nutella
Marmot
Dyslexicon
FZ.
Drwilgy
novaselinenever
Spacedavey
Kylemii
Long Con

Every mention Daisy makes of Lorab is accompanied by a verbal shrug, and when the pressure was on she placed a vote on Nutella last night. Bad look.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:45 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:39 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:19 pmwhat I do not like, as noted elsewhere, is that he used the exact same reasoning for suspecting Speedchuck as LoRab.

can you explain this? I didn't suspect lorab

wait nevermind I get it. You mean that lorab had the same reason for suspecting Speedchuck as I did.

I took interest in LC's Speedchuck case because it related to things that happened surrounding me specifically and because it validated my viewpoint that mafia might be eager to use Jay's thing to their advantage without hitching their wagons to it too hard. Speedchuck fit that profile.

Ftr I no longer think that. I think speed looks good due to lorabs' pursuit, I want to do a full lorab iso at some point, but her pursuit of him seems a little too hot for distancing.

Agreed, Lorab's latching on to my speedchuck case is a good look for him. Apart from Kyle and Lorab, JJJ is the other one I can recall supporting it a lot, though he dropped it and went after me when shit got real, which isn't the greatest look. Mac, on the other hand, was more opposed to the speedchuck case from the get-go.

Do you have any new suspects after last night?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:01 pm So... Lorab is refering to Nutella when she says "LA"? o.o

yes. I think it's an old username of nutella's or something.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:47 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:42 pm I could vote for:
Speedchuck
FZ

*Simpson's boy playing with a Ouija board*

I liked LC's case on Speedchuck and Epi's case on FZ, respectively. I think both showed behavior that might be displayed by mafia ready to take advantage of Jay's thing and, later your thing, to push a mislynch while staying out of the splash zone themselves.

Kyle, you addressed your suspicion of speedchuck in a little bit of detail here, but there's not a lot of meat. Could you elaborate on what your thought process RE: speedchuck was at this point?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:39 pm I'm voting for LoRab

This is goof though

Keep reading, it gets better.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:19 pmwhat I do not like, as noted elsewhere, is that he used the exact same reasoning for suspecting Speedchuck as LoRab.

can you explain this? I didn't suspect lorab

I know, that's not what I'm saying. You pursued speedchuck by deferring to LC's case on him. LoRab also did this.

LoRab's mentions of Kyle:

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:04 am Eek! I'm here!!!! Went to bed before first post was up last night and then one of those days where I didn't actually have time to check in. I need to get used to scheduling games into my day again!! I'm totally distracted tonight by life, so unsure about thread goings on. I need to reread to figure out what I think about Kyle, J, Epi, etc. I should be around a bunch tomorrow.

And totally appreciating all of the thread jewiness, btw! Shalom, y'all!

Mixes him into her big bowl of player salad on Day 0/1.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:56 pm OK....I'm not seeing 3J as bad--I'm seeing his typical civ game. I'm also not seeing Kyle as bad--his reaction rings true with what I remember his reaction being in general when accused in any way--I'm null on him. I could see Epi being bad (despite his use of Hebrew in a post, and almost spelling it correctly except for the stray vowel)--while I've seen him go after people for no reason (often me) in games, and have seen him drop seeds to see what grows, I've also seen him as mafia pretend to do this--pretty much what he's claimed 3J has done. Perhaps my lens is colored by the fact that I'm reading 3J as civ, and considering that mafia are going to try for lynching civs, particularly in a 1 baddie team game.

"Not bad" read on Kyle based on years-old meta.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:21 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:12 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:56 pm--his reaction rings true with what I remember his reaction being in general when accused in any way--

i haven't improved at all since then, have i

Haven't played with you enough to know, lol. But it's not a bad thing that you react that way. It's just who you are.

Filler content. Doesn't have to be a teammate interaction, but not impossible either.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:36 pm Can you recall a previous game you played with Kyle that informs your perception of him now?

I played a dozen or so games with him on LP and The Piano and hosted him at least once in Muppet (he was bad)--can't remember if he played any other games I hosted.

Follow-up to the previously-stated "not bad" read. This also is not very telling one way or the other.

As part of her response to a big ISO post she criticizes Speedchuck for his involvement in an earlier Kyle bandwagon. This tells me more about speedchuck than kyle. The rest of LoRab's mentions of Kyle are in this context, and no direct discussion of Kyle occurs.
Nothing in these posts indicates that a scum partnership is unlikely.

Kyle's mentions of Lorab:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:12 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:56 pm--his reaction rings true with what I remember his reaction being in general when accused in any way--

i haven't improved at all since then, have i

Filler content.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:28 pm Epi - good
Nutella - good
Wilgy - good
Daisy - bad
LC - good
Dyslexicon - good
FZ - bad
Speed - good
JJJ - good
Marmot - bad
Sloonei -bad
Lorab - good
Dave - ???
Novaselinenever - ???
Mac - good

Lists LoRab as "Good" in a GTH reads list. Kyle's suspects here are: Spacedaisy 1.0, FZ., Marmot, and Yours Truly.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:28 amKylemii is done;

Very unlikely = Speedchuck
Possible = Epignosis, nutella, Long Con, Wilgy, Marmot and Lorab
Null = Dizzy, Nova and Dave
Unlikely = Sloonei, JJJ, FZ

Kylemmi has the most possible partners so far, which is a hell of a feat given he has a lot of posts. Quite a nice little group of people that he avoided engaging in any meaningful way.

Idk, I guess I did end up focusing on Sloonei and Jay for most of that day phase. You did miss out on some interaction between me and LC though.

Not a real mention of LoRab, but Mac lists her as a "possible" partner of his, and he responds with a shrug about his focus being limited to Jay and I and a comment about LC that I'm unsure how to interpret.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:42 pm gun to head rainbow except it's not a rainbow cus there's no colors and only 4 categories

I would not vote for:
Wilgy
Daisy
Kylemii
Sloonei
MacDougall

I feel okay about, kind of, I guess:
Epi
JJJ
Nutella
LC

I am ambivalent towards:
Dyslexicon
Marmot
Lorab
Dave
Novaselinenever

I could vote for:
Speedchuck
FZ

Kyle is "ambivalent" towards LoRab leading up to yesterday's lynch. That in itself is not a terrible look. I can say that it's not inspiring for him to lump her into the big shrug pile, but I don't think that's something which necessarily has to be bad.
what I do not like, as noted elsewhere, is that he used the exact same reasoning for suspecting Speedchuck as LoRab. There could be something of a concerted effort to push out a strong town player based on a phony/erroneous case (by LC) by multiple scum partners going on here. If that's a thing that's likely to happen. I dunno, I'd like for this to be talked about.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:56 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:55 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:53 am I moved to nutella for the moment, I'm not 100% certain I want to stay there but my gut just got thrown for a loop and her moving to Jay is concerning to me.

I recommend looking at LoRab quickly if you have time.

Tell me about lorab

At this stage kyle is drunk and at a concert, so it's difficult to be too critical of his play. He at least appears invested in an attempt to get a read on LoRab, but this is the easiest behavior in the game for a scum player to fake.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:01 am Elplz eevator pitch me on lorab vrs locon go

Kyle was too drunk.

Everything else is postmortem. I don't love these interactions, but there's nothing glaringly working against Kyle in here either. The biggest point against Kyle is the stuff about LC's speedchuck case, which both Kyle and LoRab pushed to some degree as viable grounds for suspicion.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:53 pm More context questions:

Lorab was very anti l Speedchuck, was he ever at risk of being lynched yesterday?

Yes he was. He was never on the brink of lynchhood, but his name was central to a lot of discussion.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:36 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:34 am If Lorab is bad, she has a teammate in jeopardy. If she truly suspects me, why not put me further into the running to die?

Epi, can you plz expand on this? I'm still on my rewind, plz forgive me if you already have

LoRab was holding off on voting for a very long time yesterday despite proclaiming Epi has her top suspect every time she posted. I believe the theory behind Epi's post is that she didn't want to commit a vote to a player if it wasn't likely to help save her teammate.

Who was on the poll at that time? was lorab one of the vote-havers?

My vote was on her for a long time. I think nutella was the second to join the wagon, but I don't remember the exact timing of it. Speedchuck may have joined it right around the same time. LC was last on her wagon, and his vote was pure self-preservation.
I know Epi and LC each had some votes. Dizzy and, I want to say speedchuck, were the other names that were receiving somewhat serious consideration by voters. There were a couple outliers that received single votes here and there.

I find it unlikely that either Epi or speedchuck are teammates with LoRab based on the way she treated the two of them.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:42 am nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lorab please come back and play more games

looks like it's time for some..............

proximity analsys B)

I was scanning Kyle's ISO for interactions with LoRab and... I'm scared of whatever it is drunk kyle intended to do to us all last night.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:34 am If Lorab is bad, she has a teammate in jeopardy. If she truly suspects me, why not put me further into the running to die?

Epi, can you plz expand on this? I'm still on my rewind, plz forgive me if you already have

LoRab was holding off on voting for a very long time yesterday despite proclaiming Epi has her top suspect every time she posted. I believe the theory behind Epi's post is that she didn't want to commit a vote to a player if it wasn't likely to help save her teammate.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 pm I disagree with Sloonei on sooooooo much. More on that later I guess. =p

Let's end him.

Have you gotten a feel for what's going on yet?

This is a mafia game.

People die.

Civilians win.

I think I've gotten a grasp for it.

which people are the civilians in this one?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 pm I disagree with Sloonei on sooooooo much. More on that later I guess. =p

Let's end him.

Have you gotten a feel for what's going on yet?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 pmGive a read on me.

I will. =)

When?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:51 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:21 am The more volatile the dialogue, the less willing Dizzy is to take a stance.

Feel like commenting on this, more out of self examination: I think it's accurate to say "the more volatile the dialogue, the more urgent I feel it is to have a stance on it although I'm still as unsure as before". Does that make sense?

Why?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:52 pm I disagree with Sloonei on sooooooo much. More on that later I guess. =p

Give a read on me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:54 amIf you can commit the time to reading everything without it hurting your chances of playing effectively, do it. But I have a question about the underlined section. If you are wary of "middle posters", why is Jay your primary focus?

Actually, whatever. Do you think I'm scum with Lorab?

It's possible.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:08 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:06 pmI am having difficulties understanding you.

Then read other people's posts discussing me. Nut's and JJJ's for example. You didn't answer me - are you caught up?

I have not read everything, but I know what's going on right now.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:00 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:54 amIf you can commit the time to reading everything without it hurting your chances of playing effectively, do it. But I have a question about the underlined section. If you are wary of "middle posters", why is Jay your primary focus?

Um. Are you caught up with everything now? I think you will find your answer to that question in the discussion going on.

I am having difficulties understanding you.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:49 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:42 amI urge you not to catch up on the thousand pages if it will be too time consuming.

Well, I really like to read whole games and know what I'm talking about. I don't like missing context. (Although, ironically, I've done slightly better with reads the few times I've been forced to skim and make reads based more on sweeping intuition than details). A lot of discussion seems to be focused on active players going at each other. I have strong reads on a few of those, and I will skim any discussion that is repetitive or that just doesn't interest me. Middle posters and so called "low hanging fruits" is where I've felt scum is most likely at this game, and I will have a critical eye on all of that. I also need to understand wtf happened to Speed. I have time to read today as I'm not working.

If you can commit the time to reading everything without it hurting your chances of playing effectively, do it. But I have a question about the underlined section. If you are wary of "middle posters", why is Jay your primary focus?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:40 am @Sloonei - I'm pretty sure someone else can help you with getting it. Reads will come when I'm done catching up on the thousand pages.

I urge you not to catch up on the thousand pages if it will be too time consuming.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:19 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 am Let me iriterate from last Day phase: If you have suspicions about a players action that goes beyond their alignment, do not talk about it in thread. Figure out their alignment, probe and get your ideas clear, but do not engage in open guesswork. In fact, let's stop with that altogether right now.

Ok?

If I understand you correctly, you're saying we should stop ppaying mafia?

*biggest sigh in history*

I'm talking about something specific like "why would this specific player, for example myself, act in this specific odd way? Oh wait I have a theory about this that involves stuff from the setup!" - let's not talk about that thing. Let's just draw alignment conclusions from it and skip the open speculation about what possibly could have happened. It's like playing with an elephant in the room and not talk about the elephant, just what the elephant means or does. At least try to get it, and remember it for the future.

But speculating about things like this is speculating about a player's alignment.

That said, I don't know what you are referring to at all and this conversation is unlikely to go anywhere. Tell me about your reads.

The fact that the tie went through is a slight point against LC. Ties in this game are decided by a town player. That's a big advantage for us, and if the scum team could have prevented it fron happening to save one of their own, I expect that they would have.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 am Let me iriterate from last Day phase: If you have suspicions about a players action that goes beyond their alignment, do not talk about it in thread. Figure out their alignment, probe and get your ideas clear, but do not engage in open guesswork. In fact, let's stop with that altogether right now.

Ok?

If I understand you correctly, you're saying we should stop ppaying mafia?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:47 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:42 pm I could vote for:
Speedchuck
FZ

*Simpson's boy playing with a Ouija board*

I liked LC's case on Speedchuck and Epi's case on FZ, respectively. I think both showed behavior that might be displayed by mafia ready to take advantage of Jay's thing and, later your thing, to push a mislynch while staying out of the splash zone themselves.

Kyle cites speedchuck as a suspect for the exact same reason as LoRab.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:21 am Anyway it's done

https://screencast.com/t/mOEFHqlSOri

LoRab/Kyle is listed as a "possible" pairing. Care to elaborate?

I wouldn't be totally shocked if this lynch ended up in a tie between two baddies. FZ is the only person on the LC wagon I don't have a solid reason to feel good about, but I also lack a solid reason to feel bad about her and her vote was cast long before any of the last minute drama could be foreseen.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:35 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:28 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:03 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:00 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:49 am Talk about why you voted for him instead of her.

I understand the questions and prompts. They're irrelevant, but I don't expect you to understand that. I encourage you to hunt to your heart's desire elsewhere and to continue thinking it all over, and if you still care about this later in the night phase you feel free to bring it right back up.

I'm ready to lynch you tomorrow. Are you prepared?

Hmmm?

Don't hmm me. Spit it out.

It's self-evident. There's not much more to it than "I notice you were the only player to end up voting alongside the now confirmed bad guy."
Care to comment?

Link



I was as clairvoyant about my vote as I could be.

200 posts were made in the 20 hours before I made that post. More than that number were made in the final 4 hours of the day phase. Clearly a lot more happened when I wasn't around.

Also the fact that my vote happened to sit next to a flipped mafia member is coincidental. And to add what I said above, I was not around to move my vote (which I would have given the tie), so I don't think the placement is meaningful at all.

This is all fair, I just wanted to see how you'd respond. Do what you must to make your Marmot contributions.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:03 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:00 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:49 am Talk about why you voted for him instead of her.

I understand the questions and prompts. They're irrelevant, but I don't expect you to understand that. I encourage you to hunt to your heart's desire elsewhere and to continue thinking it all over, and if you still care about this later in the night phase you feel free to bring it right back up.

I'm ready to lynch you tomorrow. Are you prepared?

Hmmm?

Don't hmm me. Spit it out.

It's self-evident. There's not much more to it than "I notice you were the only player to end up voting alongside the now confirmed bad guy."
Care to comment?

Ctrl + F "LoRab" in Long Con's post history:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:04 am Voting Lorab to save myself.

Ctrl + F "LC/Long Con" in LoRab's post history: Not a lot here. LC never mentioned her until his self-preservation vote right before the deadline. LoRab only mentioned LC indirectly, using LC's case as justification for her fake suspicion against speedchuck. This is a good look for speedchuck, and I'm undecided on how it makes me feel about LC. would scum player #1 use a fake case by scum player #2 in order to bolster a bandwagon against a supposed civilian? Or is it more likely that speedchuck and long con are both civilians, and LoRab is seizing this opportunity to pile onto an erroneous, but genuine, suspicion? My gut says the latter is more likely, but I'd like discussion on this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:03 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:01 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:55 am
Does this result change your feelings about Long Con at all?

I don't know much yet about how the LC/LoRab interaction will shake out. As of right now I have little reason to read him in a better light. It should be noted that he self-preserved in the tally and she did not.

He voted me first and then voted Lorab after I voted him.

In case that was missed.

It was not. I was going to bring this up as well. I have a yucky feeling about it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:00 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:49 am Talk about why you voted for him instead of her.

I understand the questions and prompts. They're irrelevant, but I don't expect you to understand that. I encourage you to hunt to your heart's desire elsewhere and to continue thinking it all over, and if you still care about this later in the night phase you feel free to bring it right back up.

I'm ready to lynch you tomorrow. Are you prepared?

Hmmm?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:49 am Talk about why you voted for him instead of her.

I understand the questions and prompts. They're irrelevant, but I don't expect you to understand that. I encourage you to hunt to your heart's desire elsewhere and to continue thinking it all over, and if you still care about this later in the night phase you feel free to bring it right back up.

Does this result change your feelings about Long Con at all?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:46 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:46 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:42 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:37 am Jay is suspicious.

If only you knew the irony.

Why was Long Con a better option than LoRab?

He wasn't.

Talk about why you voted for him instead of her.

LoRab's treatment of speedchuck is worth looking into. He was her secondary suspect, and the reasoning behind it was particularly weak. He cast one of the votes against her though, which is a pretty good look.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:42 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:37 am Jay is suspicious.

If only you knew the irony.

Why was Long Con a better option than LoRab?

Jay is suspicious.