The Syndicate

Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:23 pm We collectively have too much information right now, tbh.
Then solve the game nerd. Don’t make me get the hose

I'm not a nerd anymore. I took off my glasses and it turns out I was cool and handsome all along.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:30 pm Stop caring about Mac's opinion. He's obviously not following the game anymore.

Jfc some of you practically hero worship him.

This is mac right now:

Spoiler: show

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:29 pm none of u deserve to have been given power roles, u all deserve vanilla town and mafia goon and no more

mountainous goc coming in 2022.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:08 pm i don't dislike made's take, but tutuu is always town here.
Sloonei, I love ya champ, but how the heck are you this locked on a town Tutuu read here?
tutuu's frustration over the last couple pages looks real.
Tutuu herself pointed out that she is capable of faking that.

Okay. I still feel like it's real.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:23 pm We collectively have too much information right now, tbh.
Sloonei. Assertion: Made's posts about what info he'll get out of a Tutu yeet versus other yeets is scummy. Agree or not?

Not necessarily, no. It's not a post that has to be town, but I see no reason why it has to be scum either.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:08 pm i don't dislike made's take, but tutuu is always town here.
Sloonei, I love ya champ, but how the heck are you this locked on a town Tutuu read here?

tutuu's frustration over the last couple pages looks real.

We collectively have too much information right now, tbh.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:10 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:08 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 pm player reads > mech reads

100% of the time
Which one is your vote on me?
A sheep vote.
Baah.
Sheep are a vital part of our ecosystem, Maestro.
But you're not sheep. You're GOAT.

That was Lame Uptight Sloonei. I'm not my own dad anymore.

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

cool kids just insist on a vague read for days on end without doing any work to support their case. lock it in.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:08 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 pm player reads > mech reads

100% of the time
Which one is your vote on me?
A sheep vote.
Baah.

Sheep are a vital part of our ecosystem, Maestro.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:04 pm player reads > mech reads

100% of the time
Which one is your vote on me?

A sheep vote.

i don't dislike made's take, but tutuu is always town here.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:03 pm today has been a gigantic

humongous

obscene

waste of my time

the game is extremely vague and unreliable by design

and then add on top of that players all going solo heroes it just a waste of my time man

112 mafia and hollowkatt mafia in my opinion based off of their posts at day thats all

im going to do something more productive

what a waste

player reads > mech reads

100% of the time

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:59 pm And can someone please give any good reasons Hyena is town? I've asked before and never been satisfied.

i had a thing in my cat iso that looked good, but i meant to look into hyena further but that was back when I was Lame Uptight Sloonei. Now I'm Cool Laid Back Sloonei, and doing work is for teachers and losers.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:43 pm I feel this round is actually one big clusterfuck of townies doing their damndest to throw a winning game.

Wolves are probably mainly in the wilgy/tsp sorta tier of presence, maybe like a ted or HK or someone, and we're gonna do what Syndicate always does and screw this up after a good start.

(Due to mech. As ever.)

Excuse me, I am not doing my damndest at anything.

A word of caution if we are to go through with this Radish chop:

The top level Inception game thread has 11182 posts. All four game threads combined have 14429. For reference.

Hey we’ve surpassed Radiohead. It is Day 4.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:28 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.
If it wasn't obvious, I have given up on trying to Be Sloonei this game.

I was silenced for literally a full week, and then missed the majority of Day 3 as well. This town is doing just fine without me, so I'm content to spend my free time doing things other than sifting through ~500 post ISOs for relationship clues. I'm just hopping around and trying to chime in when I think it's worth doing so. But it feels nice to be taking it easy this game, and unless/until it becomes necessary to do more, I don't intend to change that. This is the exact gamestate I've been longing for for months: one in which I'm under no pressure to work hard.
I mean, that's fine. I hear you. I just don't know your alignment. You could be town, sure. I don't know if I care too much right now. =p

I feel ya. I wouldn't know my alignment just by looking at me either. But the whole silencing thing is what gives me the freedom to not feel bothered to confirm myself. Thank you to whoever did that to me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.

If it wasn't obvious, I have given up on trying to Be Sloonei this game.

I was silenced for literally a full week, and then missed the majority of Day 3 as well. This town is doing just fine without me, so I'm content to spend my free time doing things other than sifting through ~500 post ISOs for relationship clues. I'm just hopping around and trying to chime in when I think it's worth doing so. But it feels nice to be taking it easy this game, and unless/until it becomes necessary to do more, I don't intend to change that. This is the exact gamestate I've been longing for for months: one in which I'm under no pressure to work hard.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:04 pm Another thing: Sloonei is not mafia

glad we finally got there.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 pm and i may be a suckah but radishes’ response to the outing thing is townie

maybe i’m just gonna vote for kyle

Why kyle?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:04 pm Syn do you need me to like out my targets or something? Or my role?

Someone out there is stirring a big pot of soup and licking their lips.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:59 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:57 pm Lmao.

Nope.
Why not?
Why am I not a wolf? Because of my rolecard.

@Syn help

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:57 pm Lmao.

Nope.

Why not?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:46 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:14 pm how townsided is this game lmfao whats up with all this mech info
soup kll incoming

I am a bit worried about this tbh. Maybe not a soup kill exactly, but something bad. The warning against claims is similar to what I used in Radiohead, and I would expect the hosts to have learned from my balancing issues in that game.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:44 am @Sloonei Why are your votes bad and stuff?

They are impeccable.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:35 pm @112
@DrWilgy
@Dyslexicon
@Hyena
@Jackofhearts2005
@Long Con
@Made
@Master Radishes
@MartinGG99
@Sloonei
@tedxtr
@hollowkatt
@Timsup2nothin
@TonyStarkPrime

kyle claims mech info that tutuu town
syn claims mech info that radish scum

game game game game

Okay mom
[VOTE: Master radishes] aubergine

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:05 pm is it possible falcon just died randomly cus he ran out of spiders

God I love this sentence.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:51 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:48 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:33 pm 112 voted cat before mac made an argument against cat
at the time 112 was voting falcon
112 was asked why she voted cat, and she said she wanted her vote to be useful rather that voting someone she preferred (dizzy)
112 was the third vote on cat
when the wagon on cat picked up, 112 changed her vote to somewhere less useful
when 112 was wagoned day one, marmot and cat created alternate wagons (nutella & Thunnal)

112 is bad y'all wtf
@Sloonei, what's the counter argument here? sure 112 looks spewed by Cat, but 112's cat vote is still VERY weird
I have not read 112’s posts yet.
then why are you so sure 112's town?

Because I believe in the read I got from cat’s posts.

I am willing to reconsider this read. It is not set in stone. But the parts of the thread I have read point to a town 112.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:48 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:33 pm 112 voted cat before mac made an argument against cat
at the time 112 was voting falcon
112 was asked why she voted cat, and she said she wanted her vote to be useful rather that voting someone she preferred (dizzy)
112 was the third vote on cat
when the wagon on cat picked up, 112 changed her vote to somewhere less useful
when 112 was wagoned day one, marmot and cat created alternate wagons (nutella & Thunnal)

112 is bad y'all wtf
@Sloonei, what's the counter argument here? sure 112 looks spewed by Cat, but 112's cat vote is still VERY weird

I have not read 112’s posts yet.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:36 pm if my theory is right that mafia out of desperation started bussing (white flag gambit) then 112 and hollowkatt are w/w actually i remember yesterday 112 had some sizable attacks on hkat

so mental self-note to put him in red

When would they have adopted this plan?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:41 pm Imma need someone to explain this to me in the world where 112 is mafia:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:40 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm Cat, have you paid attention to people voting you? Who do you think could be the scum jumping on your train?

(If you're town and you end up going over, it'd be good to have your perspective noted.)
No i haven't, i've made walls consistantly and the post i left off at was Dyslexicon snapping back at someone. (I forgot who ) From what i can tell the people voting me didn't like my response to MacDougall so i can't say anyone is wolfy. I don't get pinged when i'm voted so i don't know the context.
On the wagon i have a slight scumread on Nutella, and townread on tutuu. Everyone else is either a mixed bag or i have pretty much no opinion on. Like i said the most important people are the people off wagon or dancing around suspiciously and that is where town usually ignores since they are too focused on "wow, voting townie, there must be scum there".
RE: the 112 wagon, this post from cat suggests to me that those two are not teammates. 112 is the forgotten “someone” that Dizzy was “snapping back at”. I think it is less likely that cat would have forgotten a teammate’s involvement in that exchange than a random non-teammate. If you want to say it was a smokescreen or “anti-spew”, then I’d respond by saying that that would be more meticulous than is expected if anyone.

i have read your posts sloone i and know that you're townreading 112 because cat used the words "i forgot who " when referencing 112 but i dont see myself townreading 112 due to this

why not?

should i just keep quoting the thing about 112 any time 112 gets a vote?

how many mafiers are even left? wolves are dropping like flies in here.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:03 pm i think ill find motivation to leave a dope legacy and i was contemplating motivating myself to one of the albums of the metal band Powerwolf while writing it and sharing it and it would have been funny but maybe its too much and u guys will get salty so i wont but just so u know the thought is there and i found it amusing

please do not besmirch POWERWOLF with lowercase lettering.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:54 pm okay.

of the two things I am needling tutuu about, my bigger concern is the roleblock/protection speculation business. I still do not have a firm grasp on all of the things that have been claimed, but a vig claim is pretty straightforward. If I have a lingering concern about tutuu here, it is that she adapted pretty quickly and effortlessly to the theory that the mafia team would protect her as town from a vigilante. That's a weird play, I don't know of many players who would think to do that, and I certainly do not think I have ever seen it. But tutuu was ready to roll with it as soon as it was brought up.

This is not strong enough to undo my town read on her, but it's there and it's a concern.
and fwiw thats still not my main theory

that was just one of the branching paths

the most simplest thign to think imo is that mafia blocked tim because there are probably other wolves in our PoE that were in danger of getting shot

i agree that this would be a simpler explanation. i think tim being roleblocked was a simple explanation to a convoluted mess of mechanical speculation in radiohead as well. So we will have come full circle.

Do we have any specific reason to assume the mafia team has a roleblocker/jailkeeper/protective ability other than just basic setup speculation? i don't mean to suggest those are unreasonable abilities for them to have, i'm just askin' is all.

okay.

of the two things I am needling tutuu about, my bigger concern is the roleblock/protection speculation business. I still do not have a firm grasp on all of the things that have been claimed, but a vig claim is pretty straightforward. If I have a lingering concern about tutuu here, it is that she adapted pretty quickly and effortlessly to the theory that the mafia team would protect her as town from a vigilante. That's a weird play, I don't know of many players who would think to do that, and I certainly do not think I have ever seen it. But tutuu was ready to roll with it as soon as it was brought up.

This is not strong enough to undo my town read on her, but it's there and it's a concern.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:39 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:38 pm the supporting theory is that jack was obviously cop with a red peek on me (it didnt look that way to me)
Why are you considered with whether or not it looks that way? If you are town, it shouldn't even be a possibility.
because you are asking what are the reasons for why are people scumreading me and i am explaining them to you

I am concerned specifically with your language when addressing this particular accusation: "it didnt look that way to me." My issue is this: a town tutuu doesn't even need to have this thought. She has no reason to even be considering that Jackofhearts2005 could have a red peek on her, because such a reality is impossible unless Jack is an insane cop of some sort. He's not. So... why was this an issue that you looked into, regardless of what others were saying about you/Jack?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:33 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:31 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:29 pm Spell it to me like i am a baby
I just did. The wolves protected Tutuu from my shot...why would wolves protect Tutuu? Think about that.
i can offer some explanations: they wasnt sure u were gonna shoot me and didnt wanna take the risk and/or protecting a town from a vig shot is still good for mafia because then you get to yeet them

if i was shot and flipped town someone else gets yeeted today, it advances the game faster

if im kept alive as town the PoE is resolved 1 slot slower and scum de facto earn a bonus night kill potentially depending on how night goes
why would any of this be preferable to you getting shot overnight?
i just said it sloonii

because the game advances slower for town if i get misyeeted today

and the game goes faster for town if i was to get shot tonight

vig shot / day yeet both serve the purpose to kill scummy people

the slower the town solves the game thru using these tools, the more chances scum gets to night kill people and hide amongs the poe

Do you think the mafia team protected you last night?

*concerned with

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:38 pm the supporting theory is that jack was obviously cop with a red peek on me (it didnt look that way to me)

Why are you considered with whether or not it looks that way? If you are town, it shouldn't even be a possibility.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:33 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:31 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:29 pm Spell it to me like i am a baby
I just did. The wolves protected Tutuu from my shot...why would wolves protect Tutuu? Think about that.
i can offer some explanations: they wasnt sure u were gonna shoot me and didnt wanna take the risk and/or protecting a town from a vig shot is still good for mafia because then you get to yeet them

if i was shot and flipped town someone else gets yeeted today, it advances the game faster

if im kept alive as town the PoE is resolved 1 slot slower and scum de facto earn a bonus night kill potentially depending on how night goes

why would any of this be preferable to you getting shot overnight?

if there is mechanical information pointing to tutuu not being town then I am willing to reconsider my read on her. I do not understand the mechanical theories that are currently being hurled around.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:29 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:24 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:22 pm Let’s try this one
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

His jibs have been all out of wack this game
I'm...not entirely opposed. But not now. Yadda yadda mafia silence themselves, I know, but Occam's Razor says he's town.
Both Nanook and Sloonei “Don’t know how to read each other”

I don’t like that

i don't.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:28 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:22 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:15 pm I don't think jailkeeping tim stops Hyena's power from affecting him.
I think that the JPIC theory that somehow a town player stopped me from shooting Tutuu is so silly that the whole "jailkeeper" conversation is just dumb.

No one with sense looked at Jack's flip and didn't say "huh, Jack's a cop, and Tim is gonna do what he says and shoot Tutuu."

I do not care how arrogant they are about their reads, no town player says "looks like Jack had a red check there, but my read says otherwise so I'm saving Tutuu."

If Tutuu is town no mafia player says "we better role block Tim cuz he's gonna shoot Tutuu."

Tutuu is just mafia and my shot got stopped to protect her.

End of story.
@Sloonei @Made @Michelle @Jackofhearts2005 @hollowkatt @Justplayingitcool

If JPIC keeps playing dumb and blowing smoke he's a wolf too.

Why did you tag me in this? I have no fucking idea what's going on right now. But I appreciate the thought. It's good to be included.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm How long till we pass Radiohead, Sloonei?

Radiohead ended at post #10905, so we should leap past that today.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:24 pm [VOTE: martin] aubergine
You know what...sure. He had the brief moment of whiteknighting and then his energy has dipped.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Oh cool, are there actual reasons to vote for him?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:24 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:22 pm Let’s try this one
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

His jibs have been all out of wack this game
I'm...not entirely opposed. But not now. Yadda yadda mafia silence themselves, I know, but Occam's Razor says he's town.

I don't feel like being chopped today anyway tbh.

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

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