The Syndicate

And that tally is finalized. Let's hope we're right.

Looks like we're back online.

chaindeath wrote:It has to be cappo or crew because they nked Don.

I think SVS killed Dom.

And why is him being Don suspect #3 enough to deter you from voting for him? Do you think him not being a Don means he has to be a cop? Or can he not be a Don but still be town?

Why is Epi last?

As in 2 of the 3 of us are Dons? Do you think the third person (i.e. the one of us that is not a don) is necessarily a cop? Or do you think all 3 of us could be town, even if only two are dons? How would you rank us from Most Likely Don to Least?

chaindeath wrote:He thinks that he could be, but God is Chaindeath unsure.

Why? What makes you think it's him? Who is the other Don?

So far all of my town reads minus Turnip Head have voted and are on Epi, and all my scum reads have not voted at all. I like this.

If Epi is good I will [shameful act of repentance].

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Askthepizzaguy is an inspiration and an influence.

You guys had wifi and access to the champs tournament in the slammer?

EBWOP: my *mind* is as completely made up

I'm afraid I don't have anything new to say at this moment, unless people have questions for me. My main is as completely made up on Epi today as it ever will be. After him I still think Eloh is a good lynch, and one of chaindeath or nero, but my decision there is waiting on Turnip Head's thoughts.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Warning: with the internet stuff and various RL scheduling issues, the end of Day will very likely be a few hours late. We apologize for the delay.

No, I have 4 more to go.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Sloonei, did you ever think you'd have 1,000 posts in a Mafia game?

It's been a dream of mine since I was a child, but I never once imagined it would actually come true. Have I reached the magic number?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:How do you currently feel about Soneji?
Isn't it fun to never really know?

If Epi's not a don then I'd rather lynch Epi than Soneji.

Me too. I'll review your case against the guy who's name looks like mine in a moment and see if it changes anything for me.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Okay. I think we're all exploring Sloonei as a don instead of Epi (it makes perfect sense given Sloonei's reaction to Dom's non-lynch). He's not claiming it or hinting it at all, so if he is the don then I commend the gamesmanship.

I've trusted Sloonei all game and I won't stop now.

Epignosis

How do you currently feel about Soneji?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:So you think someone not named Epi among the living players is the don alongside Turnip?

Yes.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:New question, Sloonei:

Did you give Epi a 3/10 chance of donhood because that's how you compare him to Turnip?

I find it much more likely that Turnip Head is one of the Dons than Epi. The original question was about how likely I think it is that they're both Dons. I was probably too generous with that 3.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'll just say it then, since the day is dwindling down now. I think Epignosis is the don, and that lynching him today would win the game for the cops (with the only possible recovery coming from a failed arrest and/or a prison break). I still find Nero suspicious, but Turnip has a vital role in that discussion now and I really hope he can show up and gimme something there.
I don't think Epi is the Don.
Are you?
Remind me again why you think Epi is.
It can only be either you or Epi based on Day 1 votes. You basically rejected yourself as the don when you showed any interest at all in my tracking of the Day 1 votes before. If you're the don then this investigation is always immaterial to you.

So we're left with Epi.

The other agleam voters of Day 1 were Golden, S~V~S, and DDL -- all of whom are incompatible with a don role.

Right. I don't think Epi is the Don.

Soneji wrote:At this moment the issue for me is that I've basically slotted Sloonei as a Don for most of this game based off of Ika's saying that an arrest failed on him. Him saying that he thinks there is a 3/10 chance that Epi is a Don threw me through a loop, as I'd think if he was Don he'd put it as a 1/10, unless he doubts TH being a Don.

I think Turnip Head is a don. I don't think Epignosis is a Don.

Nerolunar wrote:Okay this is strange. Reading through the last few pages and Slooneis behavior seems really desperate suddenly.

Sloonei wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nero, you've opened this phase with eagerness on two fronts:

1. Let's lynch Elohcin.

2. Let's lynch chaindeath.

What do you think of Epignosis right now and where does he stand among your lynch priorities?
This recent spreadsheet stuff has me intrigued, so I would prefer either Chaindeath or Elohcin, just so we can get more time to see if Epignosis really is bad. Maybe Soneji is indeed bad?

The people I am most sure of are Chaindeath and Elohcin. Im willing to give Epignosis more time. With that said though, I will vote for the player that the majority decides to lynch, providing it isn´t myself or one of my town reads(Sloonei and TH obv.)

I wont be around at EoD though, so that sucks.
you want to lynch somebody else to get a read on Epi while we're in a lylo? wut? Why are you lacking confidence about Epi? You voted for him yesterday, didn't you? What about that whole thing where he tried to trap you?
Here he specifically makes me remember why I was sus of Epignosis to start with. Even though he has been so god damn civ all the time it looks like some cracks might be showing. Im really wary of him now, and I also feel just a little bit better about Epi.

Ask yourself guys - who can we all agree on is most likely to be a cop? I think we need to focus on actually staying in the game and right now I can only see myself lynching low-hanging fruit. Im thinking Elohcin - does anyone object to that, and if so, why? I know you guys still have some faith in Chaindeath, so Im not going there right now unless you guys want to. Then I will be happy.

But for now - Elohcin.

of course i'm desperate. We're at lylo.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'll just say it then, since the day is dwindling down now. I think Epignosis is the don, and that lynching him today would win the game for the cops (with the only possible recovery coming from a failed arrest and/or a prison break). I still find Nero suspicious, but Turnip has a vital role in that discussion now and I really hope he can show up and gimme something there.
I don't think Epi is the Don.
Are you?

Remind me again why you think Epi is.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'll just say it then, since the day is dwindling down now. I think Epignosis is the don, and that lynching him today would win the game for the cops (with the only possible recovery coming from a failed arrest and/or a prison break). I still find Nero suspicious, but Turnip has a vital role in that discussion now and I really hope he can show up and gimme something there.

I don't think Epi is the Don.

That is probably an impossible question to answer. You don't need to answer it, I'll just continue to vote for you.

Are you not denying being the Don?

Elohcin and chaindeath or nerolunar.

Elohcin and chaindeath or nerolunar.

Epignosis wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Epi stopped being online. I'd be interested to hear from Nero or TH on your theory, even though no one is allowed to role claim here.

Sloonei wrote:Hey Epi, are you the Don?

What's your motive in asking?

To get a response out of you.

Hey others, where's that insight?

Epi stopped being online. I'd be interested to hear from Nero or TH on your theory, even though no one is allowed to role claim here.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:If this is accurate and Turnip has a similarly solid reason to trust Nerolunar, then the game would be solved unless Sloonei is Satan.
What is the solution here, just so I'm clear?[/quote

The remaining cops would be chaindeath, Elohcin, and Soneji.

So you believe Epi is the Don?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:If this is accurate and Turnip has a similarly solid reason to trust Nerolunar, then the game would be solved unless Sloonei is Satan.

What is the solution here, just so I'm clear?

Hey Epi, are you the Don?

My confidence that he's bad.

I still feel like lynching Epignosis.

You only need to check the players that are still alive, don't you?

any others?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Sloonei, Turnip Head might be on to something here. Have you looked into agleam (traitor) and his flip, and how that reflects upon his Day 1 voters?
Nope. Have you?
I am right now. Without looking, please tell me what you think of the notion that Epignosis and Turnip Head are the two dons.
I find it unlikely.
How unlikely?

I'd give it like a 3/10.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Sloonei, Turnip Head might be on to something here. Have you looked into agleam (traitor) and his flip, and how that reflects upon his Day 1 voters?
Nope. Have you?
I am right now. Without looking, please tell me what you think of the notion that Epignosis and Turnip Head are the two dons.

I find it unlikely.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Sloonei, Turnip Head might be on to something here. Have you looked into agleam (traitor) and his flip, and how that reflects upon his Day 1 voters?

Nope. Have you?

I would be the happiest person in the world right now if I was a cop. In this game, I mean

also

Sloonei wrote:Scratch that. I don't know which one of you is more suspicious. I'll figure it out later.

and

Sloonei wrote:Right now I am inclined to believe TH is the Sockface Don, though.

post

Sloonei wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Y'all wanna know what I'm really after? What really drives my rage?

Death to the Warden.
Just now when I reread this, I thought it said Death to the Walrus, lol.

I have tied my brain up into a knot over this. I will check in periodically and I will follow your vote, Sloonei, if 509378 & (hopefully) TH also do so. I don't want to be the fly in the ointment, but I intensely dislike feeling steered, and after a full nights sleep, I reread last nights thread, and I still feel that way. I feel like we are trusting people we should not trust. I feel that I no longer have any objectivity.

So I will go with the program votewise, but I don;t think I will have much more to add to the conversation other than angst & frustration, and the less of that the better
To be clear, I am 100% on board with either Epi or Dom. My vote also will go wherever the votes are. Eventually.

Would still like to hear from Turnip Head about anything.

Nerolunar wrote:There is a huge difference.

Dom wanted to bus you recently.

Do you think that I would hypothetically make a bus attempt from day 1? You can´t really compare the two. I guess you could make a scapegoating argument but it simply wont be true.

What do you want to achieve with Epigs read on you?

Im going a little OMGUS/Tunnely mode and its frustrating that I feel this way. Part of it is the 3rd person

My paranoia surrounding Epignosis is enough to push me away and go with my safer reads. I think its more risky to lynch Epignosis right now in the event that Soneji had me fooled and Epignosis is town.

I am not sure what this post is responding to, but why do you see Epi as riskier than chaindeath and Elo? How is Epi, with 400+ posts, a riskier lynch than Elohcin, with like 3 posts?

Nero's chaindeath vote has started to flip my perception of the two of them. Still prefer Epignosis.

What role does chaindeath think SVS had?

Nerolunar wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Nerolunar wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nero, you've opened this phase with eagerness on two fronts:

1. Let's lynch Elohcin.

2. Let's lynch chaindeath.

What do you think of Epignosis right now and where does he stand among your lynch priorities?
This recent spreadsheet stuff has me intrigued, so I would prefer either Chaindeath or Elohcin, just so we can get more time to see if Epignosis really is bad. Maybe Soneji is indeed bad?

The people I am most sure of are Chaindeath and Elohcin. Im willing to give Epignosis more time. With that said though, I will vote for the player that the majority decides to lynch, providing it isn´t myself or one of my town reads(Sloonei and TH obv.)

I wont be around at EoD though, so that sucks.
you want to lynch somebody else to get a read on Epi while we're in a lylo? wut? Why are you lacking confidence about Epi? You voted for him yesterday, didn't you? What about that whole thing where he tried to trap you?
Im paranoid okay? Its exactly because we are in lylo. Right in this moment I feel more strongly about Elohcin and Chaindeath. And what does it mean as long as we hit a cop?

Why is your paranoia dissuading you away from epi?

Nerolunar wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nero, you've opened this phase with eagerness on two fronts:

1. Let's lynch Elohcin.

2. Let's lynch chaindeath.

What do you think of Epignosis right now and where does he stand among your lynch priorities?
This recent spreadsheet stuff has me intrigued, so I would prefer either Chaindeath or Elohcin, just so we can get more time to see if Epignosis really is bad. Maybe Soneji is indeed bad?

The people I am most sure of are Chaindeath and Elohcin. Im willing to give Epignosis more time. With that said though, I will vote for the player that the majority decides to lynch, providing it isn´t myself or one of my town reads(Sloonei and TH obv.)

I wont be around at EoD though, so that sucks.

you want to lynch somebody else to get a read on Epi while we're in a lylo? wut? Why are you lacking confidence about Epi? You voted for him yesterday, didn't you? What about that whole thing where he tried to trap you?

Epignosis wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:My spreadsheet and the fact that I am almost sure I made an erroneous assumption that I didn't catch.
Details please.
I had S~V~S as one thing and now I'm sure I was incorrect.

More details please.

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