The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

I get this reference. How do you know WIlgy wasn't scum?

I don't know if Wilgy was scum.

Why do you imply that he wasn't?

Because you say there's the same number of scum players remaining as there were supposed to be on Day 1.

I think you missed the cut of my gib.

Linki:

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What was the cut of your gib?

It involves a Day 1 fakeslip.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

I get this reference. How do you know WIlgy wasn't scum?

I don't know if Wilgy was scum.

Why do you imply that he wasn't?

Because you say there's the same number of scum players remaining as there were supposed to be on Day 1.

I think you missed the cut of my gib.

Linki:

Spoiler: show

Golden wrote:

Strawhenge wrote:

Golden wrote:A map sounds useful. It's my kind of item.

Well we better see some trustworthy behavior then.

Meh. Trustworthy behaviour is overrated. I tend to be at my most trustworthy when I'm bad

I do think there is benefit in talking about and trying to come to a sort of consensus, because surely the baddies can all pick and vote for a single one of themselves?

Golden wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not calling it a slip-up, but it is as Golden said, a series of unfortunate events. I'm just open to the possibility of it being a fictional one.

I think you have a tendency to suspect me, but here is a golden rule you can trust me to live by.

Even when bad, I lie very very rarely. I don't create fictional stories. I heavily discourage teammates from doing it as well. Why? Because all it can do is lead to you getting caught in the lie. It's just a really poor strategy. There's a reason my baddie game is relatively successful, and it's because I leave as few threads to tug on as I possibly can.

Lies are reserved for things that can create a significant game advantage (and even then, you need to feel like its a safe lie), or for fake reads.

Having said that, I do see the advantage in lying to protect others from nks, as a civilian.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

I get this reference. How do you know WIlgy wasn't scum?

I don't know if Wilgy was scum.

Why do you imply that he wasn't?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well crap, now there's 5 mafia alive and I have 0 scumreads.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: speedchuck (3rd of 10) - I kind of like this post. His comments about sig are more external than personal, but I think they're still meaningful. The approach is rather Slooneian, I think, in a good way. "Are there any good reasons not to lynch sig?" is the premier example of that.

I've never been an adjective before.

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

Hello Silver Lantern, it's nice to see you over here! Now explain to me why you didn't cast a vote in the final tally yesterday.

I didn't feel the need to cast a vote.

I don't like this question at all. Makes it feel like you're trying to be helpful by questioning someone who didn't vote to lynch when in fact I had no reason to vote in the final tally.

Why do you feel I needed to "cast a vote in the final tally?"

Because you are a player in this game and as such your voice matters. Withholding your vote is equivocal to withholding your voice, and/or chickening out. Who would you have voted for if it mattered?

I don't understand your hypothetical. Explain why and how it would matter?

BTW I am leaving a game night and driving home. I should be back in in about 20-30 mins.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@Sloonei

I'm asking. If I was mafia and everyone else was town (for the purposes of putting all targets on an even playing field), Nacho would not have been a top choice for me. Same goes for pretty much all the mafia kill choices in Unfortunate Events.

I've been working under the assumption that my guess is not as good as yours, hence the question. If there's no site meta, as JJJ posits, then I suppose my guess is in fact as good as yours and I should ISO Nacho tomorrow.

speedchuck wrote: Dyslexicon gave us a subtle fakeslip that I, Golden, JJJ, Strawhenge, Long Con, and a few others argued vehemently about. Lots of reads to go about there.

JJJ and Golden got into an interesting spat, then JOH jumped in after to interact in interesting ways.

Fredwood was suspected by some people for no reason, blew up a bit about it. Towny-ish response in most estimations, I think.

Sig was lynched over inconsistency with early posts, general non-towny responses, and probably mostly because of low activity. Golden and JJJ led the lynch for the most part I think. I was an earlyish voter as well. Then others piled on.

Nachomomma was considered town, I think. He was probabvly a mafia kill target.
Wilgy was considered possible scum. He was probably a ??? target. (Not sure)

I recommend looking at the highlights above, at the very least. It's what I remember without a reread. A little vague, but good starting points.

JOH, we have had janitors as roles before, to deny town information. It's rare, and I forget which game I saw it in. I can try to look up the example later.
In more open setups, the whole game is usually janitor'd.
That's my experience.

Silver Lantern wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

Hello Silver Lantern, it's nice to see you over here! Now explain to me why you didn't cast a vote in the final tally yesterday.

I didn't feel the need to cast a vote.

I don't like this question at all. Makes it feel like you're trying to be helpful by questioning someone who didn't vote to lynch when in fact I had no reason to vote in the final tally.

Why do you feel I needed to "cast a vote in the final tally?"

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think there may be some insight available in this Nacho kill. Yeah, WIFOM, I don't care. Thoughts:

~ He was generally given credit more often than not, but he wasn't given the most credit. There were a few other players, namely nutella and Golden, who were town read more universally. So I don't think that's likely to be the sole motive for a Nacho kill.

~ It was only his second game on the site, and his first as a civilian. If we're in a one-mafia-team scenario here, I think the driving voice behind that kill is more likely to be someone who is not a Syndicate regular. Most Syndicate regulars on this roster would be less inclined to kill a visitor on Night 1. It's technically not "wrong", but it's lame. The reason I distinguish one mafia team specifically is that if that's the case, it's likely a larger team which would by default clue that team a little bit into their solitude. In this situation they know themselves to be mafia and everyone else to not be mafia, or at least they have a reason to believe that. This means Nacho is being offed as a suspected civilian on Night 1 in his first civilian game on this website. I reiterate: lame. People I think would look better in this are Syndicate regulars who played with him last time: Quin, Golden, Scotty, Long Con, Soneji, Wilgy, Marmot, INH, Eloh. That's too many people, but I can reduce it further by focusing on those who I'd expect to have a prominent voice in Mafia BTSC: Quin, Golden, Scotty, and Long Con. Possibily Marmot and INH.

I know that's a crapload of speculation, but it was in my head and now it's in yours. Chew on it and do with it whatever you like.

~ He was not shy about stating confident reads. He might have been on the right track with enough of them to frighten the scum into killing him immediately despite not being the most-town-read player there was.

You're talking about why someone wouldn't kill Nacho.

While the speculation that you could perhaps make a whole chunk of people look better by guessing they wouldn't kill Nacho is interesting (so is you putting forth the theory) I'm presently more concerned with the question of why would the mafia kill Nacho?

The pattern I'm seeing in Night 1 mafia kills on the Syndicate appears to be "Kill someone relatively quiet who is not that suspected." Would you agree with that?

Silver Lantern wrote:Spirityo, can I take a screen shot of the polls and post it to the game?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hi Sloonei. I suspected your previous body, so you should do some of those good Mafia things you do if you can.