The Syndicate

And also who do you propose is the lost ringleader?

MacDougall wrote:That is a really good way to exclude all the people who didn't do the exact thing you suggested for an entire days conversation on the first post of the day.

Also that is a bit of an unusual kill for the Nanman MO. Sorsha wasn't exactly loud. Perhaps something changed on the team. The death of a ringleader perhaps?

I am really not sure what beef you are trying to express here.

That lynch yesterday kinda spiraled out of control at the end and I'm not a big fan of it. Everyone just came in and chucked votes driveby-style at the two candidates and called it a day. Way too easy for bad guys to blend into that sort of thing, but it's been so rampant in this game that it will be hard to shake out who's who in that pile.

So who's the lizard king?

I'm going out and won't be back til after the deadline, so I put my totally pointless votes on leetic and DDL.

Although it appears this lynch is completely settled already.

I'm considering Russ and leetic for my second vote. Neither has provided much of anything this game. leetic was a no-show in Red vs Blue as well, so he's a complete shot in the dark/"trimming the dead weight" as Boomslang put it. Russ has provided a bit more content, but appears only loosely interested. I am hesitant to commit to a scum read on him though, because I think a bad guy would feel a bit more motivation to post things. Unless he lost two teammates right off the bat, perhaps. I dunno, I wasn't here for Days 1 & 2.

Oh jeez for some reason I was thinking we had another 24 hours. One of my votes is going to DDL today. I need to figure out the second.

I want to fill the thread with questions and discussion, but I need new people to show up before I can start doing that. Gimme Mac or INH or LoRab. Or any of the inactives.

nutella wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I do think there is merit to Bass's line of suspicion. It's fair to speculate that a vocal player alive this late in the game might be left alive this long because they're the ones doing the killing. BUT we also have two scum teams, and it's also never a surefire thing that scums will just pick off the most vocal players one-by-one. There is more strategy to the game than that. That said, I understand where he is coming from and, based on the tone of his posts, I feel like it is coming from a genuine place.

That said, I also am still town-reading Quin, based on tone and content of his posts throughout the game. I am not inclined to vote for either of them right now.
I mostly agree with this post, but I am significantly more suspicious of Bass now than I was earlier today. His responses have been unsatisfying especially in regards to why he singled out Quin and not DDL -- he has now said DDL is his other vote as if it was obvious, now that I have brought it up multiple times, yet he has never directly responded to any of my multiple questions to him.

Why did no one tell me how sloppy my writing was last night? Rereading this post just now was painful.

There are fewer treasures than players who started the game, so not everyone will have one, meaning not every lynch will result in a treasure being passed alone. Still, it seems more than half the players would have treasures, so it is something that will be a factor. I probably will not let this affect the way I approach the game. Voting out baddies is still the top priority.

I had totally forgotten about the treasures until tonight.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why are the people not posting getting a pass in the lynches ?

Because we have no substantial reason to suspect them. It's natural, and wise, for us to dissect the content that is in the thread, so it's only natural that we focus on the people who are making posts. I agree that it's annoying to have so many inactives in a game. But they're all complete shots in the dark, if we want to pursue them. That might not be a terrible idea. I think we've already done it a few times.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:What are your non-Bass thoughts?
More people should post.

MacDougall is most definitely not a turban, and not likely to be a nanman.

nutella needs to respond to my earlier question.

I have no other strong thoughts right now.

I still have not looked at Mac. What can you tell me about him?

What are your non-Bass thoughts?

LoRab, how have your thoughts developed on these things?

I do think there is merit to Bass's line of suspicion. It's fair to speculate that a vocal player alive this late in the game might be left alive this long because they're the ones doing the killing. BUT we also have two scum teams, and it's also never a surefire thing that scums will just pick off the most vocal players one-by-one. There is more strategy to the game than that. That said, I understand where he is coming from and, based on the tone of his posts, I feel like it is coming from a genuine place.

That said, I also am still town-reading Quin, based on tone and content of his posts throughout the game. I am not inclined to vote for either of them right now.

@Quin: I had a question a while ago but was on my phone and didn't feel like formatting the post.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:People who find Bass suspicious for volunteering to duel: Why? What do you suppose is his baddie motivation?
I've answered this .

Your explanation:

Quin wrote:3) You expressed interest in duelling. My initial reaction to this is that it's a 'Let me prove how town I am by volunteering to be lynched' scum tactic. I see no reason to abandon that train of thought.

To which I repllied:

Sloonei wrote:We've had a number of people express such in interest in this game. I do not know how they have all turned out. MP flipped bad. CapsFan was not. But there have been others, I think.

My point: Volunteering for a duel has not always been a scum tactic in this game. What about the way Bass is doing it makes you think he is doing it for town cred?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.
This makes more sense. Before it appeared that you were just singling Quin out. I do not know what kind of suspicion he has drawn in the thread throughout the game, but in the case of DDL I can assume that he would be left alone by either scum team because he's drawn a fair amount of attention himself.

What makes you go with DDL and Quin over Nutella? Or Scotty, who was near the top in terms of activity before his two days of silence?
I've been on the fence about Scotty at first he fit the pattern that was catching us baddies at the beginning all the joking and silliness but him quieting down makes me think he it town trying to avoid getting lynched for talking to much. Nutella on the other hand hasn't even been on my radar if I'm being honest and that might be because I don't remember anything she has said really. That could be my fault because I might have skimmed over her stuff or she is just saying enough to look civvies enough to keep flying low.

Scotty claims to have been silenced for two days straight. Does this affect the way you see him at all?
And Nutella has definitely been one of the strongest presences in this game, IMO. There's plenty of content there to go over.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:The best way to describe why I want those two lynched is because I try and play with my gut and looking at every angle. I try to put myself in the mafia teams shoes. The way the mafia has played so far leads me to believe that they would want to kill both of those two before anyone else right now because Quinn has be acting super town and DDL has been one of , if not the top poster for sometime. They fit the pattern of who the mafia have been killing and yet they aren't dead. So that makes me think it's because they are the ones doing the killing. There is no sure fire way to find scum but that's the way I'm playing this game.

This makes more sense. Before it appeared that you were just singling Quin out. I do not know what kind of suspicion he has drawn in the thread throughout the game, but in the case of DDL I can assume that he would be left alone by either scum team because he's drawn a fair amount of attention himself.

What makes you go with DDL and Quin over Nutella? Or Scotty, who was near the top in terms of activity before his two days of silence?

I am town-reading Bass right now. I just don't get some of his thinking in these matters.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.
I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.
Who is your second suspect behind Quin?
But be honest what will anyone learn from my lynch? Nothing , that's what. People accuse me of being in cahoots with DDL but then says I just drove by and tried to start to bandwagons last vote. If that's the case why would I start a bandwagon on a team mate if I was mafia?

You're your own most vocal opponent right now.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:DDL duh. I'm going to be keeping my votes the same.

Are you able to explain either of these suspicions?

Oh right, there's treasure involved.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I want to duel Quinn because I think he is bad and I would love to be the one to beat him in a duel. I figured he felt the same. I don't see why he would decline my challenge unless he his scared he will flip bad in that case who wants a civ around you isn't welling to put their money where their mouth is.

I am sorry Bass, but none lf this makes sense to me. Suppose both of you are town. What does anyone have to gain by the two of you dueling? As of right now you've supplied us with 0 reason as to why you suspect Quin, and nothing about your wording suggests you have any special information. Perhaps you do. I don't know. But as of right now you have not even begun to convince me to vote for Quin, and I have no reason to vote for either of you. I also don't understand why you think anyone, town or scum, should invite votes right now. What if we send you to duel Quin and you lose? If you are town that's a completely unnecessary risk.
Who is your second suspect behind Quin?

LoRab wrote:
Sloonei wrote:People who find Bass suspicious for volunteering to duel: Why? What do you suppose is his baddie motivation?
I don't necessarily suspect him for it, but it seems odd and I'd like an explanation from him. I'm not sure what a baddie motivation would be. but I see even less of a civie motivation to do so.

Really, it's just odd to me and I'd like to try to understand it better.

So what did you mean when you said it "does not feel good"?

People who find Bass suspicious for volunteering to duel: Why? What do you suppose is his baddie motivation?

Does anyone have a town read on DDL?

nutella wrote:The main weird thing is his paragraph about Golden. It's like, he totally failed a spot check there. I don't know what thread he was reading to interpret Golden's posts that way.

This may be the case. I'm not inclined to slap a scum read on him for it, though.

nutella wrote:Here's the one. Check out Golden's reply to get the full story

I have no additional comments right now. I look forward to Scotty's response to Golden.

Sorry about that, Nutella. I assume this is the post you are referring to:

Scotty wrote:Stop kidnapping me and just kill me, you cowards!

That I have been silenced twice and not killed because of it is telling me I'm mussing with someone I 'shouldn't be'.

Let's see. I've been on INH's case for coasting this game since like day 3, and was ballgagged on day 4. Started getting on nutella's case as well as INH and Quin on day 5. Blindfolded and given sleeping gas on day 6. But yet they won't kill me. Why?

I'm no heavy poster by any means, but I think I would be lumped into a talker category. I don't know why Golden has prescribed to the 'Nanman killing high posters and YT killing low posters" theory as canon. I see reywas was killed to contribute to this theory, but I am not paying any mind to it.

Either way, it's hard for me not to read into my silencing as less than purposeful. I think i upset Nanman.

Thoughts:

-Golden, you went after Simon yesterday for reasoning that he seemed like a different person in the recent phases, and that he is a low poster, he must fit into the NM cast. This blatant accusation of a low poster I was actually questioning, and I was thinking maaaaaybe Golden had something on Simon. Because why else would he use that loopy logic to go after him?
Cut to today, and already Golden has dropped his push for Simon, and has latched onto this Mac case. I have gone back and forth on whether to trust Golden this game, and so far I have felt he has pushed unsubstantiated claims, as if he is phoning it in. Does anyone else see that, or is it just me?

-I doubt Simon is bad. This is aided by Golden's lack of urgency to get him lynched again today, and don't think I want vote there today.

-I'm surprised that one of the baddie teams seems to not kill every other night or so. I wonder if that has something to do with the secret roles in YT.

-That Caps wagon had been creeping up over the course of a few days and since you all seemed so willing to lynch him TWICE I would like to put the eye on those that voted him. If you did vote him, what about Russ, who has been up twice and won twice, has you peeled away? Why does he get a free pass?
I dunno, I just felt like both he and Russ were the low hanging fruit for lynches and it just comes off as lazy.

-INH I think you are bad. Still. I may not have info on you or a lucrative case, but I feel like you have been coasting. What cases have you built this game? Can you remind me, or is it just agreeing with other people to live another day? I'm going to keep pressuring you, even if I am once again the only one to vote you, because I don't think you are good.

-that all said, I think Mac has looked coasty as well- he even says so himself- and I'm still on the fence about him.

I'll keep thinking up more thoughts when I have them

I start work again tomorrow all day every day for a year, so who knows how my schedule will be, but I'll try and be as active as I can

I can see this post coming from a frustrated townie who had just been unable to post in here for almost a full week RL time. I am not sure I get why he rejects the point about one baddie team killing high posters while the other kills low. That has seemed to be a pretty observable trend in the game so far.
I note also that he seems to count INH as a primary suspect. I'm not caught up enough on things to comment too much on a lot of these things, but on the surface nothing about this post sets off any alarms for me.

Golden wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:Pretty sure nutella isn't bad, and she has already posted pretty good evidence as to why.

Also, I agree with the green DF read.

The only places I read nutella's list and felt disagreement were russti and lorab. I have russti as town, and I don't trust lorab quite as much (but wouldn't say she is a big suspect either).
Who do you feel most inclined to vote for today and why?
Scotty and simon, because they seem most bad.
I remember the gist of the Simon case and could get behind that. I've seen no reason to suspect Scotty in this game. And I should remind everyone that I am certified as a professional Baddie Scotty Finder.
You should really read that random post he made earlier.

which one?

nutella wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:Pretty sure nutella isn't bad, and she has already posted pretty good evidence as to why.

Also, I agree with the green DF read.

The only places I read nutella's list and felt disagreement were russti and lorab. I have russti as town, and I don't trust lorab quite as much (but wouldn't say she is a big suspect either).
Who do you feel most inclined to vote for today and why?
Scotty and simon, because they seem most bad.
I remember the gist of the Simon case and could get behind that. I've seen no reason to suspect Scotty in this game. And I should remind everyone that I am certified as a professional Baddie Scotty Finder.
What do you think of his most recent post (technically second most recent, but meaning the substantial one) and Golden's rebuttals to it? I haven't particularly suspected Scotty much, but that post was full of stuff that seemed bizarrely out of touch.

Any read of Simon is going to be complicated in this game. Not complaining about anything at all, I just mean that if I was 9 years old and in this game, I'd probably lose interest about 5 minutes in. But Golden makes the valid point that he's capable of rolling scum every once in a while, and this is something we are forced to consider.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Golden wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I have no problem dueling it's probably going to happen anyway. All I ask is if I can duel Quinn .
You seem very sure on Quin, but I don't really understand why. Is it just because you don't like the way he presented his suspicion on you, or are there other things that he has done?
Like I said its started as gut read then it might have became an obsession. I might be wrong, but I'm sticking to my guns.

Again, this does not really answer anything. Until you provide more substantial reasons, this looks like you just pulled Quin's name out of a hat.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I have no problem dueling it's probably going to happen anyway. All I ask is if I can duel Quinn .

Why are you inviting us to vote for you?

Golden wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Golden wrote:Pretty sure nutella isn't bad, and she has already posted pretty good evidence as to why.

Also, I agree with the green DF read.

The only places I read nutella's list and felt disagreement were russti and lorab. I have russti as town, and I don't trust lorab quite as much (but wouldn't say she is a big suspect either).
Who do you feel most inclined to vote for today and why?
Scotty and simon, because they seem most bad.

I remember the gist of the Simon case and could get behind that. I've seen no reason to suspect Scotty in this game. And I should remind everyone that I am certified as a professional Baddie Scotty Finder.

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:Pretty sure nutella isn't bad, and she has already posted pretty good evidence as to why.

Also, I agree with the green DF read.

The only places I read nutella's list and felt disagreement were russti and lorab. I have russti as town, and I don't trust lorab quite as much (but wouldn't say she is a big suspect either).
So you read me as likely bad then?

Quite contrary to your posts.

Who are you most inclined to vote for today and why?

Golden wrote:Pretty sure nutella isn't bad, and she has already posted pretty good evidence as to why.

Also, I agree with the green DF read.

The only places I read nutella's list and felt disagreement were russti and lorab. I have russti as town, and I don't trust lorab quite as much (but wouldn't say she is a big suspect either).

Who do you feel most inclined to vote for today and why?

nutella wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm glad to see we're still being vaguely suspicious of Nutella.
Why?

Honestly, the current stuff going on with Bass is swaying me to the side of suspecting him more. I've been giving him the BOTD because I didn't find anything particularly suspicious in his ISO, but his inability to explain why he's singled out Quin is getting on my nerves. He's moving down to the darker part of my list.

Was a joke. Because that's a thing that's been going on since I first joined this game, and Mac's most recent post is the first time I've seen anything resembling an actual reason to suspect you.

nutella wrote:Also, I don't think my list was entirely non-controversial or "hivemind." My BOTD/neutral read on Bass is pretty unique at this point, and perhaps my trust of Eloh, at least given your recent theory.

Why's DFaraday looking so green? And could you elaborate on the DDL suspicion for me? I'm hypothetically on board, but I've got very little to substantiate my read at this point.

I'm glad to see we're still being vaguely suspicious of Nutella.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Sloonei wrote:@ BASS The main question I want answered, if you don't feel like responding to everything I just wrote, is this: Why have you singled out Quin as your suspect recently? He is not the only talkative player in the game. What makes him more suspicious than the rest?
OK first the stuff about MP. The last few games I played here I was never around and never voted or posted and MP gave me a hard time for it in the past. When I asked the question Quinn pointed out it was just friendly banter between two friends.
Why am I only focusing on Quinn?
Because I had a slight town read early on but since has changed. Will pull stuff if I get to a laptop before day is up.

I hope you are able to pull stuff, because right now this does not answer my question at all. But thank you for the MP clarification.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I am here for a bit. Someone give me something to look into. please
This proposition still stands and will continue to stand perpetually. I'm behind in the game but I'm not gonna sit down and read the thread in its entirety, and I'd prefer not to try to read it blindly either. If there's anything juicy that someone wants to hear my opinion on, please point me in the right direction.
What do you think about the Eloh/Sorsha recruitment thing?

I am seeing no such thing.

MacDougall wrote:Luffy just makes claims that fit his agenda and then pretends they aren't meaningless. Like saying I civ read him multiple times when it was once, and it was entirely off-hand and an obvious joke. Now he says you were saved like it's a matter of fact.

I want to vote for Luffy but I still haven't read, like, anything.

@ BASS The main question I want answered, if you don't feel like responding to everything I just wrote, is this: Why have you singled out Quin as your suspect recently? He is not the only talkative player in the game. What makes him more suspicious than the rest?

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I am here for a bit. Someone give me something to look into. please
This proposition still stands and will continue to stand perpetually. I'm behind in the game but I'm not gonna sit down and read the thread in its entirety, and I'd prefer not to try to read it blindly either. If there's anything juicy that someone wants to hear my opinion on, please point me in the right direction.
What do you think about the Eloh/Sorsha recruitment thing?

I'll have a looksee.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Expect gigantic MP catchup post some time within the next 24 hours. Probably towards the latter end of that spectrum though. It will happen.

Just realized the first day of Fall '16 isn't tomorrow, but Tuesday, so I don't have to teach my first class until Wednesday. I love teaching, but given my current time crunch, that was a pleasant surprise of extra time.
I can't wait. What are your thoughts about my game so far?

Another soft question for MP. It almost seems like Bass is just kind of buddying up to MP here. I get that on some level, MP's a friendly guy, maybe Bass is just disarmed. But I'm not seeing any interactions with anyone else like this in here. I'm not really sure how to read this at the moment, but it's a thing I can observe.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:JJJ why do you think some one would come out and call you bad in the right up?
The only person who knows the answer to that is the person who did it. I can do as much as guess:

This person suspects me to be bad, realizes that I tend to be difficult to lynch without behind-the-scenes influence, and tried to use his/her role power to motivate other people toward making that happen instead of compiling a case (which might genuinely be less effective for that objective).
I'm not going to lie to you, right now you are a slight mafia read on my list, but that's because of of the volunteering a strong civ in a dual thing.
Again with this "maybe later" strategy talk that I don't get. Bass, if you don't mind, could you explain why you think it's more viable for a townie to volunteer for a duel later in the game than early? I am not saying it's an idea without merit, I'd just like to hear your reasoning for thinking so.

Day 3 Bass volunteers for a duel and then wonders why so few people took notice of it:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I wouldn't mind dueling today.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Also, I thought saying I wanted to duel would get more heat then it did but it's like it went unnoticed.
So hey Bass, why were you okay with dueling that day, and what were you hoping to achieve by doing so?

Then this:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Talking in this game seems dangerous. Also if they are killing high posters and people who look like they are these civ leaders then why would they leave Quin alive ?
Bass_the_Clever wrote:I feel like mafia are running this thread because Quin has been super vocal and use been night killed even after the fact she was all over MP day one or was it day two?

Even in the full context of Bass's post history, this does seem like a bizarre case of singling-out Quin from a list that should be much longer. While this game is featuring a few too many inactive players (yo), Quin is far from the only talkative one. Just a few posts prior to this one, for instance, Bass addressed a question directly to Nutella, who seems to have multiple long posts on every page I read. And there's also DDL, like Quin mentioned, just to name a couple. So Bass, another question I have for you, if you're reading all this junk, is why are you singling out Quin as the only suspicious talkative player? Either it's an arbitrary suspicion, or there is more to it that you are not expressing. Which is it?

I pulled a lot of bullshit out of here to fling at Bass, but on the whole I do not think I am scum reading him at present. I don't have a strong town read on him either, but I'd be more inclined to lean that way than the former right now. I'd like him to answer some of these questions, though.

Sloonei wrote:I am here for a bit. Someone give me something to look into. please

This proposition still stands and will continue to stand perpetually. I'm behind in the game but I'm not gonna sit down and read the thread in its entirety, and I'd prefer not to try to read it blindly either. If there's anything juicy that someone wants to hear my opinion on, please point me in the right direction.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:JJJ, why would you be happy to serve as prefect?
It sounds fun. I trust myself more than I trust other people. I'm confident that I'll maintain as consistent an active presence in this game as I always do.
I've only played a two maybe 3 games with you in the past but you seemed to hold a lot of sway with people during those games. What's scares me is someone who holds that kind of sway and gets this power ends up being bad. Sorry for putting on my tin foil hat so fast, but this Is mafia.

This sort of suspicion feels forced and almost arbitrary. If I am correct, no one knew (or knows currently) what the hell a Prefect does or whether those individuals wield any true power in the game. But Bass elects not to vote for Jay in that position because, I dunno, he could end up being a bad guy. That can be said of literally everyone in this game. What's the point of something like this? Throwing shade to throw shade. Someone else did this early on. DDL, I think. Interesting.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I am considering however the potential that the paranoia about giving me more power is either rooted in or supported by people who don't want that power in my town hands.
Hey, if you are town then I have no problem with you getting the power, but your word isn't good enough to make me think you are town at this point in the game. I voted two people who I have a hard time reading in games hoping this power makes it a little easier for me.

What?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I just don't want to see, 5 cycles from now, someone going "I trust Jay. He had been leading town since the start!" Because that is where the danger lies.

Ah, here they are agreeing with each other about wanting to scum read Jay off the bat.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I think we should vote people who we believe to be mafia to duel. I think maybe later in the game if a civ wants to volunteer then that's their choice but early game I believe we run the risks of losing civs that could help us later in the game.

Here Bass suggests it might be viable for a townie to volunteer for a duel late in the game. I do not know why he would feel this way, but it does at least help make his present inclination to (maybe) do so more believable.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be willing to throw out the following slight town GTHs:

Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay
Quin
Turnip Head

Could change at the drop of a hat, but so far I'm feeling OK at what they've brought to this thread so far. Anybody else have some GTHs yet?
Do you have a mafia reads yet, even just something that pinged you?

Quin noted some curious interactions between Bass and MP so I'll just continue that here. This hardly feels like a probing question to me (I thought so before I even saw who he was asking it to). It feels more like a nudge to me. But that is just speculation and no one in the world needs to agree with it.

More to come later, I don't want this post to be too huge.

FINE, i'll take my own initiative and look at the post right above mine:

From what I remember of my brief early window in this game, Quin was an immediate town read. This should come with the caveat that I always read Quin as scum when he's town. NONETHELESS, I have felt like he is town here since I first joined.

That said, I tried to assume Bass's position in this exchange and even so, came out of it liking Quin.

Quin wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Quin wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Quin wrote:You don't think I have cause to scum-read you for trying to get me lynched because I'm not dead yet?

Okie.
Right here you say you "scum read" me because I'm trying to get you lynched. That's a No U. So which one is it?
No, it's not.
How is it not? Then what's your case against me? Besides me trying to get you lynched, which is why you read me as scum?
What's your case against me? Oh, right... I'm not dead.

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:I feel like mafia are running this thread because Quin has been super vocal and use been night killed even after the fact she was all over MP day one or was it day two?

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:Talking in this game seems dangerous. Also if they are killing high posters and people who look like they are these civ leaders then why would they leave Quin alive ?
I've given my case against you already. But I'll humour you, and I'll even build upon it for you. Either address it or cut the OMGUS.

1) You used the fact that I am not yet dead as a means to try and lynch me for the sake of killing off the high posters. Interestingly you didn't even mention DDL, who has a higher post count in the thread than I do. This is not a legitimate argument unless you back it up with some tangible piece of in-thread evidence, which you did not. You did the opposite in pursuing this train of thought further.

I'll have to look at Bass more closely to see if he really is singling Quin out for this, as he suggests here. That certainly would be a strange play for Bass. Suggests he is angling for Quin for reasons that are not being clearly stated in the thread.

As a side note, there are a 100 reasons that would explain why I am still alive. One of them is not that I'm bad, because I could very well have been killed by the second baddie team if that were true. Say goodbye to your 'case', Bass.

I dig this. Kinda undermines the point Bass is trying to make with what seems to be a fair point. There are two scum teams. Granted one seems to be aiming for low posters, at least early in the game, but the argument that a talkative player ought to be scum simply because he's alive does not work in a game like this.

2) You voted at the very beginning of the Day under the guise that you didn't want to miss the vote. You had 48 hours to put it down, so why do it right then and there? You were trying to establish early wagons.

3) You expressed interest in duelling. My initial reaction to this is that it's a 'Let me prove how town I am by volunteering to be lynched' scum tactic. I see no reason to abandon that train of thought.

We've had a number of people express such in interest in this game. I do not know how they have all turned out. MP flipped bad. CapsFan was not. But there have been others, I think.

I also have questions about this interaction with MP, Bass. Enlighten me.

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Expect gigantic MP catchup post some time within the next 24 hours. Probably towards the latter end of that spectrum though. It will happen.

Just realized the first day of Fall '16 isn't tomorrow, but Tuesday, so I don't have to teach my first class until Wednesday. I love teaching, but given my current time crunch, that was a pleasant surprise of extra time.
I can't wait. What are your thoughts about my game so far?
Why did you ask this? Why did you single out MP with this question? This looks like it belongs in BTSC.

Yeah Bass! Answer this!

I suppose my next step should be a Bass ISO. THANKS QUIN & BASS, SUCH HELP

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