The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:35 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

That guy eats death.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:46 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:03 pmIs Jack bad?
To the bone.

But I ain't no death eater.
The llama method says that baddies are made uncomfortable by direct statements of their alignment. It used to be that they’d have trouble denying their badness at all, but once that became an established tell folks adapted to it. Now the tell, if it really exists, would awkwardly worded answers.

I’ve read like 5 of Jack’s posts but this one had the ring of someone who was being too careful to sound casual.

Should have listened to my gut.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:52 pm So anyway who was/is Jacks teammate lol

Colin, kara, or mac would be my short list.

I feel better about sprit. I'm back to feeling bad about colin. I understand if I look bad to people.

Luna is still lock town.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:50 pm Too hot hot damn call the police and the fire man.

WE CAN'T CALL THE POLICE WE JUST LYNCHED THE COP
wait

DharmaHelper is my master and I am a silly nincompoop.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:46 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:44 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:43 pm guys, im a cop and checked speedchuck 3.0

he's mafia
Dang, I'm caught. Now you just have to figure out who I'm replacing next.
Sloonei obv, Mac called it

Three games ago. Damn that's impressive.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:42 pm Sorry guys I just got here and started from where I left off. Just no time to look at whether to vote Jack or Pout.

DOWN WITH KETCHUP, JULIETS

I hope that DH really is the best mafia player ever.

fudge

go back, nutella.

oh jeez

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:35 pm so you would have a list that looks like:

sloonei
luna
colin
nutella
jack

is that how you would rank the 5 people voting?

I'm only interested in your list here. You've changed it a few times now and my head is spinning (because of everything, not just this).

But since you asked, my list would be like this:
LEAST

luna
nutella
Jack
Colin

MOST

excluded myself because duh
luna, nutella, and juliets are my three "lock town" reads. Two of them are on this list. I feel good about the wagon itself. Whether or not we're right is a different matter.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:30 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.
I claimed Sloonei towncheck and Luna towncheck before Luna claimed.
Wait what? You're saying I didn't have to claim today??
I mean, you were never going to be lynched but you couldn’t have known that.

She claimed to save me, not herself.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:32 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm no no no, jack and DH contradict
yes, very much so. I know DH is town, but I also want to think Jack is good and DH is mis-reading him

This is where I stand. I believe DH believes Jack is bad. I simply disagree with his conclusion.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:32 pm let me rephrase my list from earlier sloonei, since jack and colin were already voting before the other three

colin
nutella
sloonei
jack
luna

So now you trust luna the least? That only makes sense if I am also bad. And if I am also bad then her claim makes no sense. Ergo, luna being bad makes no sense. And that doesn't even factor in INH's treatment of her early in the game. Luna is town as can be.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:29 pm juliets is reading the thread. Juliets, I think you should tie this lynch up.

If I want anyone deciding this lynch, it's juliets.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.

I'm not sure I follow #3. Jack allegedly claimed to ID me/Owner a long time ago and there is evidence in the thread to back this up. He also claims to have ID'd luna more recently, and there is evidence in the thread to back this up. Why does this fail to qualify as "unique", what does that mean, and why does it make him bad?

I just want to state for the record that no one else participated in operation trustfall and I'm hurt.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:26 pm i see luna/jack interchangeable because yknow, cop claims but DH sounds convinced it's jack

not to mention

they ALSO said the other the was lying.

so many lies this game

linki: a teensy bit

linki2: no, jack is my most trustworthy

(yes that is correct)

Who's "they"? Jack and luna have not contradicted each other that I'm aware of.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:24 pm nutella
colin
sloonei
luna
jack

To be clear, nutella is your least suspicious player and jack is most?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:22 pm i can guarantee one of these people is bad/anti town

Rank them from most to least suspicious.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:20 pm oh right [VOTE: jack] aubergine if that wasnt obvious

linki: look at who's voting poutanko

I just was, it felt reassuring. 2 of my 3 most confident town reads, myself, Jack and uh, well Colin's iffy but I've cooled off on him as the day has worn on.
That's 3 people I trust completely (myself being one of them), a player I trust conditionally (Jack) and only one player I'm iffy about. But Colin's best claim to towniness is Poutanko's cop claim, and if he's willing to vote against that claim I take that as a mark in his favor, at least.

Meanwhile Jack has you and pout on him, along with the dubious vig claim (i still trust timmer, but not as much as before)

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:19 pm with how things have gone, im more convinced in Jack being bad now

why?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:39 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:37 pm Wouldn’t tieing jack/pout make more sense
I don't think so. Why would it?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:41 pm Linki: it’s the counterclaim situation. More than likely there’s a lie and it’ll force the mafia’s hand one way or the other

That's assuming mafia hasn't already parked their votes on one of them.

it's upsetting that poutanko isn't even here right now

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:10 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:08 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:07 pm OK then fuck it lol
I mean we could all switch to MacDougal, who looks pretty scummy to me, and one of the many cops in this game can check Jack tonight. How about that?
You voted for Mac right before all of this happened and any chance at discussion about him got smothered.

What's the quick version of the case against him?
I just remember him jumping into the thread and tying to stir up suspicion on me, and being shut down by Jack. Also he hasn't been super active with any discussions.

He's been fairly active at certain points, but I also struggle to recall a single definitive town point in his favor. He's been an off-and-on suspect for a while and it doesn't seem like any conversation about him has ever gained traction. He's someone we might want to take a closer look at depending on how this day goes.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:12 pm Here’s a question though: why does scum poutanko cop Speed as bad knowing it’s wrong?

Yesterday was a free pass to lynch INH, but while that was happening we had the whole Quin/Speed controversy. Pout's claim allegedly threw a bunch gasoline on the speedchuck fire. It ended up being the deciding factor for me, not that that resulted in anything at all. It could very well have contributed to speedchuck's death, and the false claim doesn't necessarily implicate pout because, as we've established, there's a million things going on every night that could interfere with her reports.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:08 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:07 pm OK then fuck it lol
I mean we could all switch to MacDougal, who looks pretty scummy to me, and one of the many cops in this game can check Jack tonight. How about that?

You voted for Mac right before all of this happened and any chance at discussion about him got smothered.

What's the quick version of the case against him?

Can anyone who's played with poutanko before offer a quick meta read?

All these irresponsible people with jobs making the situation more tense, smh.

@timmer it appears you're the only person present who's not currently on Jack or pout. What are your thoughts on this whole situation?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:57 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:56 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:53 pm @DharmaHelper I think there's a chance that you've misread Jack. Is that possible?
No. Not possible.

I'm going to go make lunch. You lynch Jack today or we lose a civ, that's up to you guys. I wouldn't out a civilian cop. If you all refuse to believe me, then you deserve to lose it really is that simple.
Is there something you are not telling us?
There's something I *am* telling you, which is that Jack is a Death Eater. Whether you believe me or not is up to you. But lynching Jack nets us a Death Eater.

I don't believe in your case as it's presently constituted. My apologies if you're wrong, but I don't think the game ends here either way.

or sprit, I still regard sprit as an option if anyone else is down for that. @nutella

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:57 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:55 pm Still want that explanation from Luna though.
What do you want me to say to you nutella? You already called my targets shit. I chose them because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Take it or leave it.
Please explain what the hell made them seem like a good idea. Why did you choose them

This isn't an issue right now. Poutanko or Jack?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:56 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:53 pm @DharmaHelper I think there's a chance that you've misread Jack. Is that possible?
No. Not possible.

I'm going to go make lunch. You lynch Jack today or we lose a civ, that's up to you guys. I wouldn't out a civilian cop. If you all refuse to believe me, then you deserve to lose it really is that simple.

Is there something you are not telling us?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:55 pm If Jack were bad, there would be no reason to pretend "cop" me and stick up for me. I'm one of the easiest mislynches he could have pushed

Ditto. Why would he initiate a floo chat with DH just to defend me if he's scum?

In my heart i'd still prefer to lynch sprit, but I feel like that ship has sailed. My gut is telling me that Jack's claim is more legitimate than pout's, and luna's claim makes no sense at all if it's false.

@DharmaHelper who is/are Jack's teammate(s) if he's bad? You seem to suggest timmer. Is it just him? Or is there somebody else? Why?

[VOTE: poutanko] aubergine

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:45 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:43 pm
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i'm a high school math teacher now.
You can't just yell at people in all caps and expect them to do what you want
Do you have an honest to god substantial reason to scum read Jack? What is it? Tell me what happened in your floo chat. I would like details, please and thank you. If you want me to follow your vote, this is how it's gonna happen.
He was like "fuck off Sloonei I townread them" and I was like "Oh cool any other hot tips ya got?" and he was like "huh" and I was like "hot tips, any hot tips ya got" and he was like "ermmmmmm"

Dramatic reenactment as this was several days ago and I did jump in and out as Jack said but the gist of it is he was very squirrelly in a way that in hindsight led me to reevaluate him and find him bad.

What about his super secret code language? It's something that i've observed happening for a while, and all of this provides a reasonable explanation for it. Was that something you guys discussed and do you have anything to say about it?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:40 pm @DharmaHelper SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK SHOW YOUR WORK

i'm a high school math teacher now.
You can't just yell at people in all caps and expect them to do what you want

Do you have an honest to god substantial reason to scum read Jack? What is it? Tell me what happened in your floo chat. I would like details, please and thank you. If you want me to follow your vote, this is how it's gonna happen.

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i'm a high school math teacher now.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:38 pm I am going to get Nightkilled for handing you all *another* baddie on a fucking plate and you don't want him lol ok good and cool.

You haven't handed us anything. You dropped a riddle into the thread and are screaming at us all to solve it while you sit on the answer.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:37 pm Wouldn’t tieing jack/pout make more sense

I don't think so. Why would it?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:37 pm So wait Sloonei you’re bringing up the current situation but I’m still tied for being lynched?

Yes. I'm still not opposed to lynching you. There's also something juicy happening in the thread right now. These things do not exclude each other. I'd like to hear your take on the things that are happening.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:35 pm If Poutanko's goal was to start a second wagon (Speedchuck) to facilitate a switch why in fuck was there not a switch lol

She didn't need to facilitate a switch. She just needed to make people suspect speedchuck after INH had been lynched.

Why do you not believe Jack?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:31 am I got 2/3rds of a mind to vote for Pout and MJPopcorn this tie.

this also looks like a hint.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:32 pm Jackofhearts2005 when did you get your town ID on me?
N2

Aight. Why did you check me and luna? What exactly happened in the floo chat with DH?

DH, you can have the best reads in the world, but if you're unable to communicate those reads effectively it does not matter. It's pretty clear that everyone's listening but no one is convinced. CONVINCE US.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:31 pm Nope because I haven’t read anything

Something about 3 cops?

Yes. Jack, poutanko, and luna. Which one's bad?

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