The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:10 pm I put a vote on reywas
Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

I put a vote on reywas

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:46 pm My availability for this phase is going to be minimal. I apologize.
Top 3 suspects go

reywas, speedchuck, and jack are the default 3, but I’d also be taking a closer look at eloh if I could.

My availability for this phase is going to be minimal. I apologize.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:36 pm Can someone tell me why people suspect Sloonei?

reywas seems to be under the impression that I fabricated a reason to suspect him after declaring him a suspect.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:55 pm I wonder if I'll assign my Cognitive Psychology students next fall as much homework as I assign to the people I play Mafia with.

Make them play mafia

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:29 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:22 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:14 pm I have a gif for all this bogus suspicion of me....

wait for it
Whose suspicion of you is bogus?
Sloonei and maybe leetic....possibly nutella. Sloonei's suspicion of me smells the worst.
Such "maybe". Such "possibly".

What makes Sloonei's the worst?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:07 am Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:15 am I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:
reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:40 pm what a weird day 1
Not the best look.
talk about throwing shade. My questions to JJJ were unmotivated. Why do you think this sloondog? He can't give any baddie motivations for doing it of course. It just feels bad. keep at it and you will have a good backstory for voting JoeJoe tomorrow. Maybe you can just be the seed layer and someone else can take the fall for a bad lynch wagon.

Yeah, Sloonei's suspicion is bogus. I stand behind that fo sho.

Acting the part. I didn’t see (or feel),a clear civilian mindset in your posts, so I am questioning that.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:58 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:10 am Also, is speedchuck playing mafia without having seen the Godfather? Like, what the heck?
I've never seen it either. I thought rey was calling me fettuccine alfredo.

Whacke

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:28 am Sloonei, I'd really like to hear what you think of Jack given the new information.

I thought he looked better in a few instances, but nothing locked him in as a town read. He remains on my radar, but probably not my first choice.

Then again, he might be more inclined toward being an influential force if his teammate is plumetting toward a lynch. I don’t have a clear sense of how exactly the voting played out.

I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:40 pm what a weird day 1

Not the best look.

Also, is speedchuck playing mafia without having seen the Godfather? Like, what the heck?

Nova looks great with luna’s flip.

I also give leetic a couple of townie points purely on the surface of his posts. He’s (relatively) new in town, but is puttinf forth a strong effort and making sure his voice is heard. That’s not going to lock him in as a town read, but it’s something I consider.

I feel like reywas is my strongest suspect coming out of this lynch. I’ll take a second look to see if I can identify why that is.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:27 pm Well it reminds me of in the socky game when like two or three times sloonei and/or I tried to propose a different lunch and should have stuck with the original/were right the first time. I'm staying on speed. Call it recency bias but I don't like the sudden wagon.

We did this twice and were wrong both times, then resisted the urge to do it a third time when we would have been right. It was a really strong finish.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:42 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:36 pm Okay, so my vote. I don't think I have even mentioned nova this game. I have had a bad gut read on him but haven't said anything since it isn't concrete. I like to have reasons to back up my feelings.

Wait! Why is nova voting for himself? He has been really strange this game. If he wants to vote for himself, he can get one from me too. Thank you for giving me a concrete reason to vote you, nova.

linki, with Jay. That is exactly what I thought. Glad to know I read you right And I would say you don't care abotu Chuck's alignment because you know it won't hurt civs that much to get a mislynch Day 1. Even when civs win, they usually have a misllynch Day1.

there is a lot more linki...I'll read it in a minute.
You know, I wanted to vote nova, but him voting for himself just sort of dumped water on any desire I had to vote for him. I still might do it anyways.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:36 pm Okay, so my vote. I don't think I have even mentioned nova this game. I have had a bad gut read on him but haven't said anything since it isn't concrete. I like to have reasons to back up my feelings.

Wait! Why is nova voting for himself? He has been really strange this game. If he wants to vote for himself, he can get one from me too. Thank you for giving me a concrete reason to vote you, nova.

linki, with Jay. That is exactly what I thought. Glad to know I read you right And I would say you don't care abotu Chuck's alignment because you know it won't hurt civs that much to get a mislynch Day 1. Even when civs win, they usually have a misllynch Day1.

there is a lot more linki...I'll read it in a minute.

I’ve liked all of elohcin’s posts until this one.

Swell!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:10 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:09 pm you normally feel this comfy on a day one lynch train?
Nope. I believe my suspect has conceded though, so I feel pretty decent today.

Why do you believe this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:33 pm Sloonei, tell me about speedchuck immediately.

I haven’t paid much attention to him. My focus generally has been fairly limited. I never got the impression that I was under pressure at any point, so I would agree that it’s strange of him to award me townie points for the way I handled pressure. I commented in my initial flurry of posts that he seemed absent, which is NAI. I have not looked closely at him since then.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:32 pm “Lynching me” is strong language. Jack has been highly focused on me, but has largely shied away from actually taking a stance. He’s made comments about me, but has not directly suggested anything about my alignment in those comments.
I think it has been pretty clear that he finds you suspicious.

As do I. But his language in expressing this has been tepid.

“Lynching me” is strong language. Jack has been highly focused on me, but has largely shied away from actually taking a stance. He’s made comments about me, but has not directly suggested anything about my alignment in those comments.

Jack is hellbent on lynching me but has tiptoed around actual accusations until now.

I also feel like there was a major shift in his approach to the game when people started accusing him. I don’t know if town Jackofhearts would fold like that. He seemed really confident in his meta earlier.

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:11 pm Triple J makes me nervous...regardless of his alignment.

I feel like too many people are too willing to follow his lead. It's too early to be giving him civ status tbh.

Peeps have been saying this since the dawn of time.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:45 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:31 pm I submit that in this game, Sloonei is lacking curiousity common in town Sloonei.
Read our exchanges. Like pulling teeth.

Pulling your teeth.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:19 pm I meant naked townread Nova.

Yes, those are posts I made. You didn’t say anything about them except they make you suspicious cause...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:49 am These posts serve as examples:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Jackofhearts2005, please talk to me about this.
Well it’s not very funny, isit? No offense, Nova.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:19 pm JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.
Welcome to my town and scum meta for early game. One upon a time, a guy named Rokk Krinn told me that my meta was to act like I was messing around and then suddenly the trap swings shut and I lynch the mafia or setup a key mislynch. You never see it coming.

Now, I think that was a bit generous of him but it's true that I tend to joke around early and turn serious later, when I have a better feel for things.

Anyway.

Townread - Jay for the effort.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

It's like 5 posts into D1. I'm me. I don't have 2 townreads and 2 scumreads yet.

As I was reading things that had happened earlier in my absence, it seemed like people in general were intent on moving the discussion in the thread forward as much as possible. These posts seemed at best apathetic to thay forward progress, and at worst resistant to it.
Scum doesn’t care if the game moves forward?

Scum tries to stall game progress?

This is your case?

As an observation, it’s whatever but you’ve voted for me twice so it feels like this is supposed to be more than an observation.

Yes?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:19 pm I meant naked townread Nova.

Yes, those are posts I made. You didn’t say anything about them except they make you suspicious cause...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:49 am These posts serve as examples:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:08 amYou're putting me on the spot here.

It stroke me as weirdly succinct on first read, and I compared it to some of her entry posts in previous games. I have no data on baddie Sabie, however her Civilian self usually starts the game with some chatter. She feels comfortable, and appears easy going.

She comes offcold here, or timid I'd say. Right to the point. I don't care much as well for the general compliment, and the addition of an emoji. Probably an attempt at appearing more friendly.
Jackofhearts2005, please talk to me about this.
Well it’s not very funny, isit? No offense, Nova.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:19 pm JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.
Welcome to my town and scum meta for early game. One upon a time, a guy named Rokk Krinn told me that my meta was to act like I was messing around and then suddenly the trap swings shut and I lynch the mafia or setup a key mislynch. You never see it coming.

Now, I think that was a bit generous of him but it's true that I tend to joke around early and turn serious later, when I have a better feel for things.

Anyway.

Townread - Jay for the effort.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

It's like 5 posts into D1. I'm me. I don't have 2 townreads and 2 scumreads yet.

As I was reading things that had happened earlier in my absence, it seemed like people in general were intent on moving the discussion in the thread forward as much as possible. These posts seemed at best apathetic to thay forward progress, and at worst resistant to it.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:49 am These posts serve as examples:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:08 amYou're putting me on the spot here.

It stroke me as weirdly succinct on first read, and I compared it to some of her entry posts in previous games. I have no data on baddie Sabie, however her Civilian self usually starts the game with some chatter. She feels comfortable, and appears easy going.

She comes offcold here, or timid I'd say. Right to the point. I don't care much as well for the general compliment, and the addition of an emoji. Probably an attempt at appearing more friendly.
Jackofhearts2005, please talk to me about this.
Well it’s not very funny, isit? No offense, Nova.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:19 pm JackofHearts2005 - Posted a lot, but very little was game related. For that reason, slight scum lean.
Welcome to my town and scum meta for early game. One upon a time, a guy named Rokk Krinn told me that my meta was to act like I was messing around and then suddenly the trap swings shut and I lynch the mafia or setup a key mislynch. You never see it coming.

Now, I think that was a bit generous of him but it's true that I tend to joke around early and turn serious later, when I have a better feel for things.

Anyway.

Townread - Jay for the effort.

Scumread - Speed for buddying Jay and the bleh push on Nutella.

It's like 5 posts into D1. I'm me. I don't have 2 townreads and 2 scumreads yet.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:54 amNova town
I feel like this post doesn’t really address my question. Please advise.
People were talking about nova. I weighed in.
You were like “I smell something fishy about Jack. See these two posts.”

I was like “What are you talking about?”

You were like “See my next post, wherein I naked vote Nova.”

And now I’m like “What are you talking about?” again.

Never have I ever voted for nova.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:31 pm I submit that in this game, Sloonei is lacking curiousity common in town Sloonei.

wat

Nuthin’. Jack’s pointed out a very obvious difference in my playstyle. I wonder what he makes of that difference. One might say I’m curious.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:54 amNova town
I feel like this post doesn’t really address my question. Please advise.

People were talking about nova. I weighed in.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:31 pm I submit that in this game, Sloonei is lacking curiousity common in town Sloonei.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:17 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:44 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:38 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:37 amB
Dig in!
I already did. Something smelled fishy when I was catching up. I sensed a lot of energy moving in one direction coming from a lot of folks, but then Jack’s posts did not seem to be in sync with that energy. He seemed to be moving against it.
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

The fuck are you talking about? Naysaying?
@Sloonei

Look at my next post

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:12 pm Jackofhearts2005 In the Sockys game I argued that sabie was mafia at lylo in part because she’d responded to all accusations with some form of “I don’t know why people are accusing me.” We mislynched her and speedchuck hopscotched away with a dirty scum win.
Lol didn’t ya’ll know Speedchuck is always mafia?

Sabie did

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:10 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:27 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:57 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:38 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.
Nevermind Jay and Nova. Seems like they are strong-arming everyone at the door with their check-in posts. It's simply a power show.
What does this "power show" indicate to you about rey and I?
I didn't mention rey. It just makes you and Nova look like you're excited for the game, and don't mind punching reads out of people's check-in posts. I like the enthusiasm, but your methods look a bit harsh.
This... is actually interesting. Rey for Nova slip. I'm intrigued.
The Grand Unified Theory of Mafia (GUT M) is whacke because a mafia member will tout any suspicion that might remotely smell viable in an early game situation when finding themself in an environment which is already otherwise filled with kooky postulations. One must look the part.

Bob from the colonies over here is not producing an original idea, but he is running with an independent suspicion of the player most invulnerable to suspicion. No harm can come of it and he appears bold and open-minded for floating it. I will maintain a healthy skepticism.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:12 am [VOTE: Jack O’Farts] aubergine

In solidarity with my brother Bob from the colonies.
These posts back to back with no previous mention of me are questionable. Sloonei’s 2nd and 3rd posts with content.

Your second sentence answers the question raised in the first.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] In the Sockys game I argued that sabie was mafia at lylo in part because she’d responded to all accusations with some form of “I don’t know why people are accusing me.” We mislynched her and speedchuck hopscotched away with a dirty scum win.

[mention]leetic[/mention] I dig the work you’re doing on fleshing out your prior reads, but at the moment I’d be more interested in your take on current events. Talk to us about what’s been going on in the thread right now. Your voice is new to me and I want to hear it in a more immediate situation.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:35 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:08 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:47 pm I would welcome anyone providing an argument in favor of Jack being a civilian. There's been little verbal resistance to his candidacy for badness.
Aren’t you answering your own question?
It’s a crappy argument on its own.
Has anybody else given a reason he's scummy?

Yes.

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:43 pm its more fun to impulse post and then correct yourself later tbh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:14 pm Voted for jack again
whyzzat

Same reasons as before. I just had some buttons to push with regards to reywas.

Voted for jack again

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.
He's on my would lynch list....which now only includes him. His posts give me lots of stank eye

linkitits (giggity) why are you so interested in how i'm reading you then, sloondog?

I wanted you to provide a read which was an actual stance, and not one which is just the absence of a stance.

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:03 pm What was the best game-related post I made prior to this conversation, reywaS?
lol are you trying to figure out if I'm bullshitting or not? If so, your question is flawed. I never said anything about the civvieness of your content. My snap judgement on you was based on the lack of Mafia content.

That is not what I’m trying to do.

What was the best game-related post I made prior to this conversation, [mention]reywaS[/mention]?

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:56 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni
Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?
I left the puzzle key right there in my post. *sighs*

I have you in the "don't wanna lynch at the moment" end of the spectrum.
Why the heck not?
because I needed 2 names and i hadn't made a crazy face at any of your posts yet.

But I spent like 24 hours goofing around and avoiding meaningful discussion altogether.

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni
Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?
I left the puzzle key right there in my post. *sighs*

I have you in the "don't wanna lynch at the moment" end of the spectrum.

Why the heck not?

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:06 pm i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine

Nova town

I get more of an absentee vibe from speedchuck’s posts than a foot-dragging vibe, but I myself was absent for most of the day so I might be missing the immediacy of his contributions.

These posts serve as examples:

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