The Syndicate

Alright! Nice game everyone, great win team. That was...

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:34 am As the Barksdale were celebrating their victory, a wave of white antimatter appeared and started sweeping across Baltimore destroying everything. Meanwhile, in the morgue, Bill Rawls sits up suddenly and draws a big breath, noticing someone standing over him. The last thing he remembers is enjoying a Margarita at his favorite bar. "Where am I?" he said.

The Monitor had restored him to life, and started to explain to him what happened and what was at stake as he got up and they made their way to the window. "I need you, the big battle is coming." said the Monitor before teleporting them away just as the wave completely destroyed The Wire.

The end of the Multiverse begins here...

wut?

I object to the characterization of D’angelo as a villain.

Well I appear to be a goner. That’s cool, happy holidays y’all. If Long Con ends up being town I’d probably want to throw all of my reads in the garbage. I never did a complete set of interactive reads with rej. But based on the strength of my town reads, dunya and DDL would be the players I become most skeptical of. I’m also a bit wary of a player like Turnip Head in these situations, but I haven’t followed closely enough to say anything about this day phase.

Don’t let the activity slip. We’ll be in a somewhat tight spot, but not an unwinnable one. It’s gonna take a good civilian effort to get there though.

Lol I wasn’t trying to win any sympathy unvotes or say I shouldn’t be lynched. Just lamenting my own schedule preventing me form doing what’s necessary to figure this out before I go down.

I specifically asked not to be lynched. This is dumb. I can’t even play today. Meh.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:44 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:25 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:48 am [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
Et tu dunya?
oui, moi aussi. j'ai perdu confiance en toi; tu es parvenu à effacer l'idée que j'avais de toi et je n'arrive plus à la faire correspondre avec ce que tu es.

¿Que?

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:18 am [VOTE: long con] aubergine
Wow wow their buddy.

I love you Sloonie, but I'd rather you exit this wagon. You see if you're mafia, which lol you probably are but less so than LC, and you flip whom they gonna look at next? Little ole Sig that's who so shoo.

Are you also mafia then?

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:48 am [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Et tu dunya?

[VOTE: long con] aubergine

I’m mostly unavailable til friday, if I make it til then. Don’t lynch me and keep doing things.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm

You flipping scum 85% clears boo and Colin for me. You flipping town makes Colin near-confirmed scum imo, and boo pretty high on the list.

Colin flipping scum semi-clears just you, and him flipping town just makes you near-confirmed scum.

Your votes yesterday are also scummier than Colin's, just by dent of mattering more.
Fuck lynching for information. Vote for the player you suspect more. Why the hell are my votes worse than Colin’s? We’be been over why I voted the way I did a dozen times already.
I do think you’re more likely scum, and I said that.

Your votes are more pro-scum than colins. A wasted vote on speedchuck is less useful for scum than your votes.
My votes were pinned in place by boo.
If you flip town I’ll take that into consideration.

Without knowing your alignment it means exactly nothing. If you’re town maybe you feel cornered and like you have to take the deal, if you’re Mafia you’re obviously happy to take it. It’s meaningless wrt determining your alignment. What is meaningful is how you voted, more than how you got to the votes you did.
What? I voted the way I did for self-preservation first and foremost and I’ve been upfront about that. Colin was my preferred choice, as I’ve said. I still maintain that he’s a suspect. But I could not vote where I wanted to vote, and to ignore that right here and now is unhelpful.
i mean, according to the rainbow you did, colin wasn't the "preferred" choice. you even placed me before colin.

That rainbow was based purely on rej interactions. It was not a general reads list, hence why it was incomplete. I maintained some suspicion of colin for other things, which I also talked about.

I should have stayed on long con.

Motherfucker

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:02 am [VOTE: colin] aubergine
You going to play it like that, eh? Fine. But if it ends up in a tie with me, I'm making the tie me and you.

Colin is on everyone’s list. I’m not playing any way other than trying to produce the right lynch.

[VOTE: colin] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:54 pm Sloonei’s better but I’d settle for a Colin kill if that’s what we can get through over LC

I could also go for colin

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:50 pm *read lc iso*

I find no fault in him

here

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:41 pm I'm in the lead now? Well, that's a mistake.

That’s how I felt when it was the other way.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:31 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine
Why?
Because that's what I wanted to do and was doing before I got distracted by a ridiculous vote analysis from Jack.
I’d be on board, but I find myself once again voting to not die. LC’s a fine lynch too though.
I'm not convinced.

The wanting-to-be-suspicious thing is a viable thing that I can see town LC going for and that’s my biggest hang up on this vote. But my suspicion towards him exists independent of that.

Have you looked closely at his interactions with rej? They’re light and not very great, imo.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine
Why?
Because that's what I wanted to do and was doing before I got distracted by a ridiculous vote analysis from Jack.

I’d be on board, but I find myself once again voting to not die. LC’s a fine lynch too though.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:28 pm Have you not heard about me?

Do you believe the words that you type?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm

It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me
Wait you actually believe in a case against me? I thought you were just dicking around.
I mean I think I've been pretty clear that there are two acceptable wagons today and you're one of them, lol
Okay so why me instead of colin?
You flipping scum 85% clears boo and Colin for me. You flipping town makes Colin near-confirmed scum imo, and boo pretty high on the list.

Colin flipping scum semi-clears just you, and him flipping town just makes you near-confirmed scum.

Your votes yesterday are also scummier than Colin's, just by dent of mattering more.
Fuck lynching for information. Vote for the player you suspect more. Why the hell are my votes worse than Colin’s? We’be been over why I voted the way I did a dozen times already.
Cause he voted for Rej.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm Whatever, I gotta go sleep

Good luck

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Well okay then

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:23 pm [VOTE: Colin] aubergine

Why?

Are we just gonna sit on our hands for an hour now?

boo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:55 pm If I were bad, my Day 1 vote would have certainly been on Rej by the end of the day. Two Civs on the line, and the baddie comfortably a few votes lower? Easiest soft-bus ever. Makes speedchuck a little suspicious to me, but I'd need to see how his Day 2 Rej vote progression really went down.
This one.

I called bullshit.

The votes D1 were 5 Dom, 5 Drago, 2 Rej.

You changing Dom to Rej makes that 4 Dom, 5 Drago, 3 Rej.

Either you're claiming, if you were bad:
1) You'd make that change far enough ahead of time, meaning that if just 1 person switched to Rej as well he'd be a now strong lynch candidate. If he did get lynched then or within a few phases, you would've gotten some towncred.
or
2) You wouldn't make that change more than a minute or two before the lynch end, not giving people enough time to follow you, and then if/when Rej did get lynched, no one would care about you changing the vote to him (and it actually actively probably would've looked like a distancing vote).

Also i’m pretty sure my vote for Drago was #3 in total. LC’s wagonomics are off there. He and rej both had 2 at the time of my vote.

Less than an hour to go and i’m in the lead. Again. The fuck did I do?

[VOTE: long con] aubergine again

This is all dumb

boo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:06 pm I had a whole post and everything about why LC was full of it and stuff. But it got eaten, apparently, cause I finished getting caught up to find no responses to it and was super confused and then realized that. So now I have to remake it.

Give us the short version

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm

I mean I think I've been pretty clear that there are two acceptable wagons today and you're one of them, lol
Okay so why me instead of colin?
You flipping scum 85% clears boo and Colin for me. You flipping town makes Colin near-confirmed scum imo, and boo pretty high on the list.

Colin flipping scum semi-clears just you, and him flipping town just makes you near-confirmed scum.

Your votes yesterday are also scummier than Colin's, just by dent of mattering more.
Fuck lynching for information. Vote for the player you suspect more. Why the hell are my votes worse than Colin’s? We’be been over why I voted the way I did a dozen times already.
I do think you’re more likely scum, and I said that.

Your votes are more pro-scum than colins. A wasted vote on speedchuck is less useful for scum than your votes.
My votes were pinned in place by boo.
If you flip town I’ll take that into consideration.

Without knowing your alignment it means exactly nothing. If you’re town maybe you feel cornered and like you have to take the deal, if you’re Mafia you’re obviously happy to take it. It’s meaningless wrt determining your alignment. What is meaningful is how you voted, more than how you got to the votes you did.

What? I voted the way I did for self-preservation first and foremost and I’ve been upfront about that. Colin was my preferred choice, as I’ve said. I still maintain that he’s a suspect. But I could not vote where I wanted to vote, and to ignore that right here and now is unhelpful.

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine for suggesting a bullshit reality where i’m scum no matter what.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:58 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:53 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm

It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me
Wait you actually believe in a case against me? I thought you were just dicking around.
I mean I think I've been pretty clear that there are two acceptable wagons today and you're one of them, lol
Okay so why me instead of colin?
You flipping scum 85% clears boo and Colin for me. You flipping town makes Colin near-confirmed scum imo, and boo pretty high on the list.

Colin flipping scum semi-clears just you, and him flipping town just makes you near-confirmed scum.

Your votes yesterday are also scummier than Colin's, just by dent of mattering more.
Fuck lynching for information. Vote for the player you suspect more. Why the hell are my votes worse than Colin’s? We’be been over why I voted the way I did a dozen times already.
I do think you’re more likely scum, and I said that.

Your votes are more pro-scum than colins. A wasted vote on speedchuck is less useful for scum than your votes.

My votes were pinned in place by boo.

[VOTE: colin] aubergine

Oh I see. Why turnip head?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:52 pm Sloonei > LC

In what terms?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:50 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm Hello, is anything important happening or can I check out again?
We're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.

Pretty important.
It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me
Wait you actually believe in a case against me? I thought you were just dicking around.
I mean I think I've been pretty clear that there are two acceptable wagons today and you're one of them, lol
Okay so why me instead of colin?
You flipping scum 85% clears boo and Colin for me. You flipping town makes Colin near-confirmed scum imo, and boo pretty high on the list.

Colin flipping scum semi-clears just you, and him flipping town just makes you near-confirmed scum.

Your votes yesterday are also scummier than Colin's, just by dent of mattering more.

Fuck lynching for information. Vote for the player you suspect more. Why the hell are my votes worse than Colin’s? We’be been over why I voted the way I did a dozen times already.

I am equally comfortable voting for Long Con or Colin at this point. Jack’s bullshit about wagons has me reconsidering Colin’s vote entirely at the end of yesterday.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm Hello, is anything important happening or can I check out again?
We're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.

Pretty important.
It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me
Wait you actually believe in a case against me? I thought you were just dicking around.
I mean I think I've been pretty clear that there are two acceptable wagons today and you're one of them, lol

Okay so why me instead of colin?

If Colin is scum and he votes for me then we get two civilian lynches and he and rej both have huge targets on their backs. If he votes for rej it ensures that only one of them died, and gives him a good town claim moving forward.

Holy linki

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:38 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:36 pm Hello, is anything important happening or can I check out again?
We're trying to figure out who to lynch and there are 1.5 hours left to pick.

Pretty important.
It's only important if we're wavering off Sloonei, and he seems to be in the lead still, so. Looks like we're good there to me

Wait you actually believe in a case against me? I thought you were just dicking around.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:02 pm At the buzzer, votes are

Colin 5 - Jack, Boo, Sloonei, Tony, Nanook
Rej 5 - DDL, Jack, Sig, Dunya, Speed
Sloonei 5 - LC, Creature, Nanook, Sig, Nutella
Tony 6 - Rej, Dunya, Sloonei, Speed, Dunya, DDL

And Colin votes Rej. He chose to take Rej from 33% chance to lynch to 100% chance to lynch and himself and Sloonei from 33% to 0%.

If Colin is a wolf, the only reason he votes Rej is because Sloonei is also a wolf. Otherwise, he’d lynch good townie Sloonei over himself and good role partner Rej. A bus on Rej earns him no cred.

So under the idea that Rej is probably teamed with Sloonei and/or Colin and under the idea that Colin can only be a wolf if Colin and Sloonei are both wolves, Sloonei should go first.

If Sloonei flips wolf, we get a wolf and we reevaluate Colin with the knowledge that everything Sloonei said cane from a wolf. If Sloonei flips town, we know all his reads were real and we confirm mislynch bait Colin.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

The basis of this theory is that Colin, Rej, and I are all scum. Meaning that we had three viable scum wagons on a day when the mafia team had two votes each. I would be ashamed to be part of that team.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:20 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Let’s not

sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:37 pm My gut tells me to stick with LC. I’m revisiting Colin in my mind, but the end of Day 2 is keeping me from committing a vote to him. Creature and boo would be the other names on my shortlist. Creature’s recent flood of content and non-content alike does little for me.
Why Boo?

I was iffy on for a few things yesterday. Then today he didn’t look great in relation to rej, and he also made that “deal” which prevented me from voting for rej yesterday.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:16 pm What if Colin and I are both town?
Then Rej fucked up. Why wouldn’t he self preserve?

He wasn’t around for eod.

What if Colin and I are both town?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:10 pm Has anyone made a more convincing case on LC than LC made on himself? Cause I have no idea what to do with that much wine.

Yes, but you didn’t read any of my posts.

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] and [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention] both have pointless votes right now.

Though I guess speedchuck has been a fringe suspect for some, so maybe colin’s is less of a waste. But I don’t see speed as a viable wagon today.

Under no circumstances will I be voting for dunya today.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:38 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:17 pm RE: Long Con looking bad on purpose, I can buy the philosophy in principle as LC is an old schooler who came up in the days where survival was top priority. It’s believable for him to have an impulse to shake off town reads. I am weighing this as I consider his alignment in this game right now.

However, I have two concerns that are not (and frankly cannot) be covered by this point:
1) WIFOM. Just as town LC could be inclined to deter town reads, I could also see scum LC pulling this as a stunt to confuse or shake suspicion. I must also acknowledge that announcing this plan in this way kind of negates it a little, as we now must either believe him or doubt him. If we believe him then he is an even stronger town read than before, so what was the point?
2) None of the points he raised are related to my suspicion. There are two main points I have against him. The first is that he and Rej did not look great in their interactions with one another. The second is his vote for me, which he seems to be maintaining even after revealing his self-destruct plan.

He remains a suspect, but I an considering this newest development as I weigh my vote.
Yeah, WIFOM is a possibility. Can't ever deny that. Yes, that "plan" is negated now, I don't want to be the lynch leader and that's how I chose to approach it.

I have discussed Rej tonight. I think you are bad, so my vote is on you. I think it more today than yesterday.
Is it still just because I was buddying you?
No. NANOOK's post about you made sense to me - "It's also notable that rej didn't vote on either of sloonei or Colin, which would've given him a chance to survive. // All told I think this points towards sloonei being scum--maybe Colin with his meaningless speedchuck vote, but I tend to think sloonei's votes look worse, coupled with rej not voting there."

After that I felt bad about you enough to realize I have already decided you're bad and so now I see how and why baddie Sloonei would act like you... it's not rock-solid by any means. I just believe it.

This raises an interesting point, actually: I’ve been focused on where Rej did vote (Tony and Jack), but I hadn’t considered where he didn’t vote. Granted, he was absent for most of the end phase if I remember correctly. But he didn’t vote for Colin and Colin only voted for him as self-preservation at the last moment. If both of them are bad, I could see a world where scum wanted to make sure they didn’t both go down together.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:17 pm RE: Long Con looking bad on purpose, I can buy the philosophy in principle as LC is an old schooler who came up in the days where survival was top priority. It’s believable for him to have an impulse to shake off town reads. I am weighing this as I consider his alignment in this game right now.

However, I have two concerns that are not (and frankly cannot) be covered by this point:
1) WIFOM. Just as town LC could be inclined to deter town reads, I could also see scum LC pulling this as a stunt to confuse or shake suspicion. I must also acknowledge that announcing this plan in this way kind of negates it a little, as we now must either believe him or doubt him. If we believe him then he is an even stronger town read than before, so what was the point?
2) None of the points he raised are related to my suspicion. There are two main points I have against him. The first is that he and Rej did not look great in their interactions with one another. The second is his vote for me, which he seems to be maintaining even after revealing his self-destruct plan.

He remains a suspect, but I an considering this newest development as I weigh my vote.
Yeah, WIFOM is a possibility. Can't ever deny that. Yes, that "plan" is negated now, I don't want to be the lynch leader and that's how I chose to approach it.

I have discussed Rej tonight. I think you are bad, so my vote is on you. I think it more today than yesterday.

Is it still just because I was buddying you?

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