The Syndicate

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Yeah, this might be a surprise tribal result for Atamai.

I have no idea how Mamana is going to shake out.

If someone they vote for has the immunity idol does that mean nobody gets voted off or the person with the next number of votes gets voted off?

As per the show, the person with the next highest number leaves.

Yeah, this might be a surprise tribal result for Atamai.

I have no idea how Mamana is going to shake out.

Marmot wrote:Yeah, this shit is getting pretty intense!!

I do find it amusing; I've never watched a single episode in my life, but here I am choosing this game.

It's almost like the real thing.

Just less bikini bod and more whitewashed words

Some shit is going down on Atamai.

I think a hidden idol is being played tonight

juliets wrote:Yes I'm not surprised that approach worked better. I was more surprised Mamana didn't approach it the same way. Can't figure out who they are going to oust.

Logic would dictate keeping it within tribal numbers, so you'd expect an original Mamana gone on Mamana, and an original Atamai member gone on Atamai.

But I haven't strictly been following all the BTSC that's been transpiring

Well, Atamai is going to win this one. Looks like the even-keeled approach worked for them.

Won by 9 less guesses.

juliets wrote:Mamana needs a leader.

Yeah, without DH, they're slightly floundering. But they got lucky with that challenge. While I like Atamai's taking-turn approach, they're still a ways away

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:Of course this call and response type challenge falls on a day in which I have early rehearsal, 2 shows, and looking to go exploring.

What the survivors don't know is that the pot contains an idol and whoever picks the pot receives immunity for tribal tonight.

Haha Scotty I'm willing to bet you don't do much 'sploring today. And cool about the idol in the pot. I wondered if both tribes were going to council tonight.

Oh, both are still going to tribal tonight.

Gotta end this game at a reasonable pace

Of course this call and response type challenge falls on a day in which I have early rehearsal, 2 shows, and looking to go exploring.

What the survivors don't know is that the pot contains an idol and whoever picks the pot receives immunity for tribal tonight.

juliets wrote:I'm confused what technical difficulties Elo is talking about.

Ah, I see what she is referring to- when I changed the poll, the votes from the day poll didn't change for whatever reason. I assume it had to do with the fact that both polls had 9 options.

Either way, that she really wants Aquamarine is bizarre. No one knows what the rocks do. It's like refusing to ride a bus because the bus company has pink somewhere in the logo.

juliets wrote:lol Scotty they are trying to make this difficult for you voting for their rocks in the thread. What if everyone doesn't come in to vote? lol

Ugh. They already voted for one each, why are they changing? They don't even know what the rock colors do!!!

juliets wrote:Something other hosts have done on the chatzy rooms is just have the bts team create them (everyone knows how to create a chatzy) and send you and Scotty the site. That way one person isn't creating them all.

I'm glad Atami is evening up the score. Looks like Wligy might be the one to go out of Mamana. We'll see I guess...poor Wilgy two games in a row.

The voting out procedures here are a bit more cut throat- people will find a little crack in the armor and take advantage of that. It's pretty weird looking in, but I guess it's pretty close to reality TV.

Marmot wrote:I got a warning from Chatzy for spamming their site with new Chatzy rooms creations.

Oh god whoops. Is that gonna be a problem?

One thing I'm learning from hosting the hard way- my time constraints need to be more prounounced. I shouldn't allow people to do shit right up until deadline. It already takes me over an hour to compile stats and actions, let alone writing the flavor so if Wilgy had been voted out a minute before EoN from a changed vote that would have seriously rustled my jimmies

juliets wrote:I wonder if Elo realizes she is poisoned by the poisoner as well as having food poisoning. She doesn't indicate that she is double poisoned. Interesting.

Both technically do the same thing, so it doesnt stack. I worded her sickening differently from the other people though, so she may not pick up on it since everyone is having a time of it

The secrets to this challenge are minimal, but DH is right in that there is a slight advantage when performing moves.
Attacking after a successful block will yield +1 to the results of the die roll.
Attacking 3 times in a row subtracts 1 from the 3rd roll.

Very minimal; but it could make the difference.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I just noticed people are calling you Jeff, and that amused me more than it should have.

He's my







Idol.

juliets wrote:So Scotty is the number of people affected by the food poisoning equal to the number of people who voted for that option on the other team or is it an even number affected for each team.

And yeah MP, I have a slightly modified "won't kill silenced people" stance. I helped kill someone who was at work the whole day once and will never forget the reaming out she gave us about how she did not have an opportunity to answer to her accusers. She was, of course, civ. I also felt bad for SVS for the same reason in the Blue v. Red game the other day. But as you say, it's a topic for the mafia strategy thread.

The majority in the poll is the punishment that the other tribe received. The "food poisoning option" directly affects the players on the other team that didn't vote for "Food poisoning". Since the question was "which is worse", the people that didn't find food poisoning the worst got it. That goes for non-poll participants, like Epi and Wilgy.

Meanwhile, our resident poisoner has poisoned Elo in the midst, so...they will have a cover to continue hiding their malevolence.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey, folks. Yeah, I volunteered just because I wasn't sure how I could effectively use half of my role power and I just didn't feel I had adequate time to contribute better than anyone else there.

Boomslang wrote:I hate Mafia. You act like you're silenced and don't give a shit about the game? You get a free pass. You play the game, contribute, and ask good questions? You get voted out. Why do I even bother?

Sorry to hear it, bud.

I don't know what went on in your camp, so I can't talk to that. Nonetheless, on a semi-related note based on your sentiment, I do think we have a serious cultural hangup at this site about not lynching non-participants and lurkers even when it'd be in town's best interest to get rid of them sooner rather than having to deal with them closer to endgame, but that's a discussion for another thread (mafia strategy, specifically).

Something SVS brought up early on is a reference to a past Survivor game she played where they did exactly as Atamai has done so far- eliminate non-participants or people that just generally aren't about the game. That Wilgy skirted by slightly is a different direction that Mamana went through. It would be a far-gone conclusion that, should Mamana lose this challenge, Wilgy is the easy choice here.

Not to knock on wilgy- he's said he's just having fun and, in chat, said he doesn't care if he wins or not- but that sort of thing will probably be frowned upon early on for the chi of the tribe.


and thanks again for stepping in, MP. I know you didn't have be proper time you would have wanted, and that's ok. Hope you had fun for a hot second

Boomslang wrote:I hate Mafia. You act like you're silenced and don't give a shit about the game? You get a free pass. You play the game, contribute, and ask good questions? You get voted out. Why do I even bother?

It's a shame man. I don't really get it either. I caught glimpses in BTSC that LoRab and INH were looking to change their votes to Wilgy at last second, but thought better of it for whatever reason. man, they almost turned it around! I'm sorry you went out, especially early on.

If it makes you feel better, Opt said you were her favorite player in the game because you were so level-headed.

I don't foresee a way DH putting such a huge target on his back will win him the game. But who knows

juliets wrote:Team Atamai is just dead today. And I can't figure out what's up with Wilgy unless he's just concentrating on GOC.

I'm sure they'll come alive 10 minutes before end of phase again like this past phase

DH guessed the poll right...whatever the tribe chooses will affect the other tribe negatively. And people aren't gonna like the consequences..

juliets wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

juliets wrote: SVS's team is voting out MP cause he only signed up to help Scotty and really doesn't have time to play

That's no fun. Shouldn't vote offs be more tense than "we're voting the weakest link"?

When are they overthrowing DH?

Well, MP kinda volunteered to go and they really didn't have anyone they wanted to get rid of. Whats funny is DH thinks maybe MP, Epi or SVS will go because they all have big personalities and that really has nothing to do with it.

They are having small group bts each night within each team but I don't know if the people on DH's team are talking about overthrowing DH or not. They seem to be tolerating him.

Thanks for summing it up, juliets!

Yeah, that's about the skinny of it. The alliances will falter eventually, though.

They have to to survive.

juliets wrote:Atamai didn't plan their bts out like the other group did - missed opportunity.

Plus people like Epi, who willingly aren't pursuing it, where some people selected him as a partner.

To each their own. I think that the more dangerous roles are on Mamana, and it looks like MP is making himself an easy vote today, so there's not too much to talk about over there

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:Is Wilgy silenced? I wouldn't think someone would have the power in this game but what do I know.

lol a player would literally hog-tie another player. That would be funny.

No. He isn't. He also didn't submit BTSC choices last night, much to the chagrin of a few people.

Interesting. I saw his name looking at the thread but he didn't post. I wonder if he's pretending to be silenced so as not to get the vote.

Well apparently LoRab won't vote for him if he doesn't post, so that's convenient for him

All these BTSC chats are quite interesting. Several small groups forming, and breaking old alliances. No one on Atamai has BTSC right now, and there's 6 groups of BTSC on mamana.

juliets wrote:Is Wilgy silenced? I wouldn't think someone would have the power in this game but what do I know.

lol a player would literally hog-tie another player. That would be funny.

No. He isn't. He also didn't submit BTSC choices last night, much to the chagrin of a few people.

juliets wrote:Too bad for Booms. He had the guts to stand up and ask the question about DH and the puzzle and now it's looking like he'll get the vote.

Scotty, do the people that have the immunity idol know that they have it yet?

Yes! Both players know they have it and are keeping it close to their chest.

I feel bad for Boom, especially after his defense.

If I were him, I would mention the fact that he was poisoned Night 1. There are more factors to vote for besides low-posting and not following the "King of the Island"

juliets wrote:OOOh a hidden immunity idol. Too cool. Do they know they are going to get it if they vote a certain way?

One person knows specifically. Another is just going to get lucky.

Things are about to get interesting!
It almost seems like everyone is gearing up to change their votes to black rocks. We'll see if everyone gets on board.

juliets wrote:Was it the other team where someone implied they were a doctor? I am also surprised Boom hasn't said anything as someone could be able to help him.

DF claimed that he could help sickness.

Though he's on the opposite tribe as Boom

Boom was poisoned last night, and he's going to remain sick, losing more attributes than everyone else until he can get cured.

That's part of the mafia element in the game: some of these people's roles have malevolent powers. I'm surprised he hasn't come out yet with that piece of info. He could just be withholding it so he doesn't show weakness because he doesn't yet know someone specifically poisoned him.

DH wrote:If we decide to go half and half, I know Long Con well enough to know he'll pick yellow so I'll do the same for him

You know nothing, Jon Snow

juliets wrote:I've played this game before with the rocks. DH's first instinct is right - the best way to play it is all yellow rocks if they are trying to maximize for both teams. I guess though that might not be the goal and like LC I think the original prisoners dilemma that I played had multiple rounds. And how funny DH thinks there is some power struggle going on in the other tribe. Still hasn't realized they are punishing inaction. Should be an interesting day. Scotty, maybe not as much work for you today.

Most of my work in this game is fixing mistakes I made and clarifying my "confusing" instructions, so I could use an "off" challenge or two

Woosh. This is very time consuming.

I think I sent everything out.

I think.

juliets wrote:It's funny that the Mamana group isn't thinking about someone not participating being the one the other tribe votes out.

Maybe they forgot dog was playing lol

Haha Quin and SVS are making a tight alliance in their BTSC, and telling each other their roles. Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite them. But that's the kind of thing I was hopin for

juliets wrote:Yeah Scotty I was a little worried yesterday when both threads had so many questions and activities going at the same time but you did a really great job at going back and forth between them. You can at least have a break to be with your gf during the night phases (except for setting up bts and counting votes - tonight's votes shouldn't be a problem though). I completely missed the instruction to them to ask for bts partners - did they have to stay within their tribe? I would imagine yes.

The instruction was only in their role cards. I guess I didn't make that clear to anyone not in the game lol. But yeah- they can select up to 2 people every day and if players selected each other they gain BTSC.

As for challenges in general- that will not be par for the course. Most of these I made so they could say "[x]" and move on with their day. A little more carefree.

Had a ton of people not submit for BTSC last night, but 5 pairs did link up.

Man, this hosting thing is a lot of work. My gf is none too pleased with the time sink, and I don't blame her.

juliets wrote:JJJ you should catch up. It was a wild day yesterday and tons of fun. I think this is a great game. Can't wait to see the next challenge.

Thanks Jules!
Next challenge is by far the easiest challenge- I got into a pickle in crafting the game where I felt like it was dragging on too long, so I added reward-only challenges so that both tribes have to start voting off stragglers. That way, the game ends in less than a month and doesn't outstay its welcome.

juliets wrote:I'm predicting the tribe will eject sig or MP unless they show up in these last few hours and really play the game.

Perhaps so. The real game players would probably not mind eliminating other game threats, but who knows? I'm sure MP wouldn't mind, since he knows he shouldn't be playing anyway with his PhD.

juliets wrote:Scotty does Faraday have the puzzle? Or did he solve it?

He......just got back to me. It took him 2.5 hours or so to solve. I was perfectly clear that the timer started as soon as I sent him the puzzle so it's not like the sense of urgency is lost.

But he will most certainly lose the challenge for his tribe.

juliets wrote:Man, this game is out of control with people requesting actions all over the place! Poor Scotty.

I could have specified better in the Original rules. Meh. I'm learning as I go. First time hosting and all that.

juliets wrote:Scotty DH is saying it's not his fault he didn't solve the puzzle. What's he talking about?

About 20 minutes in, he asked for clarification of the rules of the puzzle, and was asking certain questions that I gave him clarity to, which turned out to confuse him even more. I dunno. Golden finished the puzzle in 9 minutes, so

Meanwhile, DF has been sitting with the puzzle now for over an hour and counting

juliets wrote:

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:Oh did someone on the team solve it in 50 minutes?

No. DH took 44 minutes and gave up. He was confused by the question. I feel bad he didn't understand it, but I can't do anything about that. I know it works and I know the directions are there.

Yeah if you tested it on people you know it's fine. They really should have let speedchuck try it. Golden won't be on till this afternoon and he'll be at work where it may be hard to get the focused time necessary.

Edit: lol I don't think Epi read the directions about #4.

Yeah the thing is- DH is gonna DH. But more importantly, he has a puzzle solving advantage and still didn't finish

juliets wrote:Oh did someone on the team solve it in 50 minutes?

No. DH took 44 minutes and gave up. He was confused by the question. I feel bad he didn't understand it, but I can't do anything about that. I know it works and I know the directions are there.

juliets wrote:Nice save though. Don't know whether they believed it but really it doesn't make that much difference. They don't know what she did which is the important part.

At this point, it's all about if the puzzle solver takes more than 50 minutes to solve the puzzle lol

I posed that puzzle to family members and the longest time was 11 minutes.

Oh man, DH caught my slip up. Both tribes are blending together for me already ahhhhhh.

juliets wrote:Scotty, do you want me to let the technical mods know to fix the players ability to edit their posts in the tribe thread? They shouldn't be able to do that as far as I know.

Sure, I just let Marmot know as well. Dunno why that's happening.

juliets wrote:Oh wow he passed. It will be interesting to see if the other team can get it.

Lol.

What's funny is that LC has been right on money already with his prediction:

Long Con wrote:The water puzzle may be some variation of the classic "make 4 L from a 3 L and a 5 L jug".

That's exactly what the water puzzle is!

juliets wrote:Wow SVS scores big in her ball throwing! Only one more hoop to get.

When playtesting this, I didn't even think to just shoot those light balls. It's a slight loophole, and I'll leave it to these smart people to exploit them. Good work there! I should have set a limit on light balls, but oh well.
Lol the other team is not even contemplating that. Hilarious.

Also, DH has been working on his water puzzle for 42 minutes now and says it's impossible.
Those are 42 real minutes being added to the challenge, so it's almost as if nothing else matters

juliets wrote:Well dang, Soneji came on the site but didn't say anything in the thread. I wonder if he decided not to play.

He still hasn't checked either of his PMs- his role card or my reminder that he has a rolecard.

juliets wrote:

Marmot wrote:Now I wish I was playing this game instead so I can be a non-conformist and NOT join the DH Idol-Wagon.

Yes, I don't understand why everyone is joining it so easily unless they are just saying they are and really aren't.

Opt_Out literally yelled at her screen when she was reading through that, and wants nothing to do with DH's power play.

Guess we'll see if they end up on the same tribe...