The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:34 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:38 am why do you think spacedaisy is more likely to be even than Scotty?
Check it:

Fact: Long Con knew the name of the tribe he was not on.

Implication: Long Con had a team member (an Evil Even) on Cerberus.

Fact: An Evil Even on Cerberus killed Scotty Night 2.

Implication: Someone on the original Cerberus tribe killed Scotty.

Fact: Unless Scotty killed himself, only Boomslang, INH, Kylemii, Sloonei, or Spacedaisy could have carried out this wicked deed.

Implication: One of the above is an Evil Even who killed Scotty Night 2.

Fact: Scotty, Kylemii, Sloonei, and Sapcedaisy joined Pikachu when the button was pushed.

Fact: Two Pikachu Evil Evens were dead by Night 8.

Fact: sprityo was killed Night 8.

Implication: One of the people to join Pikachu killed sprityo.

Conclusion: Scotty's Night 2 killer is still alive and should be hunted down and brought to justice.

Fact: It astounds me that three people are willing to lynch Scotty before searching for his killer (except I guess INH who thinks Scotty is as awesome as the guy who killed Hitler).

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:38 amdo you think the details in the rule lists implying changes in alignment after death are just red herrings?
I think so. All of the Marmot / Wilgy / Lorab interactions looked 100% teammate compatible from the beginning, for example. I don't think any of them turned.

And what's more, if I died and came back on a team I helped wreck, that'd be shit.

What is your opinion of Boomslang?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:03 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:15 pm Look Scotty I can't save ya if ya be pissin' errbody off
If Scotty is a civ this is my third or fourth game with him where everyone wants to lynch him and I'm like "why you people voting Scotty wait guys stop for a minute and breathe"

I should probably be lynched early in every game just to be sure.

Oh wait, that already happens.

This game is the longest I've ever been alive.

Meanwhile, Boomslang still has 2 lives and is going to creep his way into endgame.

Aight [mention]Kylemii[/mention] I wanna hear some GTH reads on people. You said you could see Boom as one of the remaining badboys, but I'm wondering if you'd do a cut and dry approach on everyone left in the game. Whatcha say?

This is a PSA: If you're ever to the point where you think killing yourself is the answer, please do call the suicide prevention hotline (1-800-273-8255 or 1-800-APETALK)

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:36 pm I'm having a hard time buying INH's activity as a scum play. Seems needlessly antagonistic. Maybe it's a ballsy play by a scummer with nothing to lose? Does anybody think INH makes that play? I guess it more or less fits the way he's been playing all game...

Yeah, and I haven't accused him ever of doing any different- I remember him getting super defensive early (~Day 3 maybe?) when taking heat and then again after he was daykilled. It was mostly that I kept forgetting he was playing (to be fair, there were a lot of these players, like Kyle and later DDL for a time) but whenever anyone said his name 3 times,

Spoiler: show

which I thought was odd to say the least. I start forgetting what he was talking about, because I felt it so damn odd that what I do remember from him wasn't the content of his posts but the timing itself. Because even though he's been wrong about every read he's had, it felt like he was very passionate about those reads. I don't remember bad INH or how he usually plays. I also don't remember how good INH usually plays. In either case, this may be an outlier?? I dunno.

I mostly suspect him as Strex for his interactions with Wilgy and blah reads of LoRab/Marmot. Other people think he's Even, but I am still under the idea that there's at least one Bidoof 1.0 alive that is also Strex.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:07 am And I'm really tired of defending Scotty.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:11 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:39 pm D9:
Boomslang wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:50 am Obviously, I don't like anyone voting me for joining a train on a reasonable case. Cbob, that means you. Scotty has been supertown this whole game, can't get that mad at him for complaining about my low engagement recently. Trying to get caught up, but also going out of town again this weekend :/
Why should he be judged for joining a train? Also, I’ve been supatowning this whole game. But don’t worry, you avoided both trains yesterday, and I’m suddenly not a supatown at all in your eyes.

Oh, here’s something funny.

Guess who didn’t post at all on N10?
Guess who didn’t “show up” to kill someone N10?

Awful coincidences, don’t you think?
Ok, this is a major stretch. If I were bad, you think that I wouldn't instruct my teammates to send in a kill on a day I knew I wasn't going to be around? Why do I have to be the one to send in the kill? You're making assumptions to fit your narrative and calling them "revelations."

“Major stretch”
Naw. It’s a plausible scenario. I don’t know who your teammate(s) is/are, but accidents happen, and people forget. I would think that a civ would at least ponder this theory and be more open to the possibility for possibility’s sake, not affronted and scoffing as you are doing here.

This game has been going on so long I’ve already won 6 games of Bingo at my retirement home.

And it’s funny, because I’ve started compartmentalizing this game into standout pieces, and the little details are getting hazier and hazier. Like if SVS hadn’t been hung up on the Day 5 lynch, I wouldn’t have even remembered what that is. Or that cbob was lynched on D6. Not that any of that has relevance right now, but it’s like sitting at home on a July day with an appletini in hand talking with my dog and remembering where you were when you heard the Challenger exploded. What were you doing? What was the temperature at the time? How did you react? Well, I wouldn’t know- I wasn’t even born yet.

Anyway, I’m ready for this game to end because everything’s just melding together and I’ve had these ingrained suspicions for such a long time- a lot of which have fluctuated throughout the game and I’m forgetting why I suspected someone to begin with. Mostly big picture things, I suppose. Helps me remember.

Incoming walltext:

INH has been harping on me for some time I think. And the crazy thing is, the longer he bemoans me being alive in this game, and the more he continues to dig himself deeper, the more I’m like...what kind of baddie does that? I remember suspecting him for a bit early game some time, then he was shot by presumably nijuu some time, and I remember thinking that first role looked pretty civ. Then jack made some comments about taking out someone that hadn’t been NK’d and LC’s role looked civ too, so I was about ready to lynch him, but then something changed, I think? So we backed off. But the entire time, he was there, hanging out in the background, brooding, throwing shoes at sig and being a phalanx to Wilgy. And during that, I remember thinking- that dude is bad..isn’t he? But he’s been so egregious with his suspicions and just getting everything wrong. It’s like playing roulette and always betting on black, and it’s been nothing but red. But he keeps doubling down and doubling down, (it’s called Martingale strategy, if you want to look it up) so that eventually he’ll profit. Theoretically. But he’s betting on the wrong horses. Is that a flailing civ mindset, or just an lazy baddie game? Because if he’s right, and he finds a baddie, it’s like winning $10 in scratch offs: he paid $15 but he won some back, dammit! So as a civ, how beneficial is it really? I think he’s genuinely hung up, and that keeps making me want to think he’s not Strex. I just keep placing him on Strex, because here I am thinking Boom and Kyle are the last Evens.

So all this to say, I’m back in the philosophy: he could be civ I guess, just a dangerous one because he’s so inflexible.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:16 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:04 pm idk who to
vote for. lol. wat. help.
idk cbob? boomslang?
Why not kyle?
Kyle didn't care who was lynched day five; indeed Kyle didn't care about the lynch enough to even vote. Had he voted for sig, LC might not have been lynched. I find him an unlikely Even.

And Scotty mocking people isn't nice. I am not conducting.

I ain’t mocking, SVS. I’m asking you to get off the train you are conducting before you go in the tunnel. Wow, now that I type that out, no wonder it sounds so weird. I left out the part where my brain jumped to “tunneling”.

Anyway, I’m asking you to take a step back and think y way for a bit. No mocking.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:26 pm [quote=Scotty post_id=429831 time=<a href="tel:1523483952">1523483952</a> user_id=410]
[quote=Kylemii post_id=429823 time=<a href="tel:1523483600">1523483600</a> user_id=289]
[quote=Scotty post_id=429791 time=<a href="tel:1523476315">1523476315</a> user_id=410]Kyle’s just voting me because he’s trying to save himself and knows I’m the next scapegoat.

???

I'm voting for you because you're the most likely player to have killed sprityo over the other 3 possibilities.

I'm also... not trying to save myself. if I have to be lynched to prove your guilt then I can accept that
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Sounds good!

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i dont really understand what your plan is for after I flip, aren't you just going to die the next phase? how does this benefit you at all
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Because I think you’re bad and it won’t come to me getting lynched.

What do you think of Boomslang, Kyle? Enough about me and you for now

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:53 pm uh.... what is The Math. Has anyone done The Math recently

What does this mean?

It reminds me of “Who is Champ?”

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:00 pm Remind me- was there not a time where Speedchuck was removed from the poll after tribe swap? Am I just misremembering?
He was.

I know because I read the entire damn thread recently.

Yeah, that’s a wildcard. Have we never seen that happen again? Could it have been a random BTS reward? I don’t recall a role reveal giving that. And I don’t think it’s you, Epi. I don’t think it’s Dom, unless his role isn’t really what it says it is

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:59 pm Also my perception of time is weird in this game because some stuff liuterally happened over a month ago.

This won't beat CC123 in length but it will come close.

Unless we strike gold and wipe mafia out with lots of civs left.

Workin on it. We obviously have one Strex left and unless jack or somebody was an even (lol) probably another 1 or 2 of them.

I’m most confident right now, in order:
Boom
Kyle
INH

The wildcard being any of the recent peeps in their second roles. That’s a crapshoot as far as I’m concerned

Remind me- was there not a time where Speedchuck was removed from the poll after tribe swap? Am I just misremembering?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:51 pmKyle’s just voting me because he’s trying to save himself and knows I’m the next scapegoat.
???

I'm voting for you because you're the most likely player to have killed sprityo over the other 3 possibilities.

I'm also... not trying to save myself. if I have to be lynched to prove your guilt then I can accept that

Sounds good!

N10:

Golden wrote:As it happened, they never showed up at all.

Sloonei brought it up before and I dismissed it because [reasons] but Golden does like to hint in his host posts. We originally were like “Awwww it’s Wilgy because Wilgy wasn’t around” but Wilgy wasn’t an even killer (we assume).

And there aint no way in hell that I would have purposely withheld a kill in mid game. Boomslang was the only person without a post on N10. You tell me a better explanation for that.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:59 pm Wow, and you call ME tinfoil, Epi, lol.

I don't see how anyone can be cleared by being NKed in a game with two lives, possible target switching roles, possible post death alignment switches and an Even team featuring a guy who killed himself for cred. In a game Epi hosted, iirc.

Epi said this re Sloonei:

Sloonei's first role was one that could steal powers and use them on other people, and there was no limit on how many times he could use the ability. If you believe Sloonei is an Evil Even, then it means he could have eventually copied LC and nutella's very powerful roles multiple times and caused wicked chaos. I understand Sloonei was on a different tribe than both of them and this opportunity never presented itself, but all that would have had to have happened was Lorab pushing the button Night 1, potentially putting Sloonei in the same tribe as Long Con and nutella, and he would have had a field day copying their vote manipulations and fake revelations.
Nope, I fully believe he used his powers for good. I saw his role, some, um, things, made sense to me that had not before.

I don't think being NKed clears Scotty. I think he fits two sets of criteria, so I voted for him.

hi

If you’d take a break from conducting, can you tell me what you think of Boomslang?

What do people think of my Boomslang revelation?

Epi wrote:Scotty - Killed Night 2 by Strex, so his first life was not Strex.

Come again?

Right, well the argument that SVS is making is that I switched into Evens and led the lynch of sig on day 5 and that’s why she’s voting me. If it weren’t for the fact that a) I didn’t actually lead the lynch on sig and b) she just finds my tone disengenuous, I shouldn’t have votes at all. Kyle’s just voting me because he’s trying to save himself and knows I’m the next scapegoat.

And I’m not on Strex because why on earth would I campaign to get LoRab lynched so early? I was looking back and I even said on the Day 5 lynch that I would prefer to lynch LoRab over sig. But that’s fine.

I can find no instances in Boom’s ISO where he has supported finding the Pika2 killer, even though it’s close to an inevitability at this point. I’m not even talking about saying he didnt want to focus on just that angle- he completely avoids it.

Guys, I #caughtheem

D9:

Boomslang wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:50 am Obviously, I don't like anyone voting me for joining a train on a reasonable case. Cbob, that means you. Scotty has been supertown this whole game, can't get that mad at him for complaining about my low engagement recently. Trying to get caught up, but also going out of town again this weekend :/

Why should he be judged for joining a train? Also, I’ve been supatowning this whole game. But don’t worry, you avoided both trains yesterday, and I’m suddenly not a supatown at all in your eyes.

Oh, here’s something funny.

Guess who didn’t post at all on N10?

Guess who didn’t “show up” to kill someone N10?

Awful coincidences, don’t you think?

ISOing Epi again:

Epi wrote:Dom, you amuse me. You and DH and S~V~S are here expecting stuff from 2015. I'm a better player, I think, because I've played a lot and clashed with other cultures. That's a good thing.

Getting suspected because I'm not pointing out punctuation errors or refusing to put up with people dismissing my arguments when I could be doing stuff in another game?

You can remain in 2014 if you wish. I've moved on. I've tried to become a better Mafia player over the years. Newcomers have helped me up my game. I'm grateful for them. In this Game of Champions, I am going to show my stuff

Epi wrote:Accusing people is fine, but I have found more success working out who civilians are and then going from there. It creates a tiny box that mafia have to huddle against one another, one that gets smaller with each passing Day.

It is a perfect method? You know the answer to that.

Will I abuse that when I am bad? You know the answer to that too.

Are people going to accuse me of being bad with the people I am defending? I don't care.

Try doing it yourself sometime and see if your results improve.

very even-keeled, logical approach. This whole approach seems extremely political and is laid out on D2 before he gets too much heat. By proposing this philosophy, he looks diplomatic and is seen as the good guy with much smarts. This is also how Hitler came into power. Or something like that. Not saying Epi’s Hitler- he doesn’t have the same mustache.

SVS also calls out Epi on D3 that this philosophy ‘doesn’t sound like the Epi I know’. I mean, listen to this gem:

SVS wrote:I still have the squidgies about him...Part of my issue with Nutella was that I thought she could be bad with Epi specifically. Not so much speaking for him as bringing a chatroom vibe into the thread. Like I could envisage the conversation, Dom and Epi getting in each others faces out here in the thread, Epi venting about, how dare he, he screwed up MK, etc. I have seen it happen in chatrooms I was in before, where some sort of stress or drama spilled over in some form into the thread, but no one really picked up on it. I am not sure I am explaining this well, but if it has ever happened to you, you know what I mean. Overall her "big picture" still looks baddish to me, even with Epi removed from the equation. But I need to read her again, I would like more than "Baddish Big Picture".

N4 we are almost assured was blocked by Marmot.
Which means N6, SVS is the next target. Best kill someone up in their face. I think the switch/merge helped Epi’s game, if he is bad, because then SVS started tunneling on Bidoof players and Epi, who still has 2 lives, can just sit pretty. He already had a pedigree of lynching Evens, and is a journeyman when it comes to labeling people potentially civ, as his D2 philosophy entails.

This comes after sprityo is killed N8:

Epi wrote:The value in killing him is in the removal of a "confirmed" (I use that term loosely) civilian voice. Nobody was ever going to lynch sprityo, so it doesn't surprise me to see him killed eventually, but not early. That's all I mean.

I think anybody would kill sprityo. It's just good strategy at this stage.

Very political answer. Lays it all out and basically pats himself on the back. He lets DH takes the reigns on saying one of the Bidoofs did it, and let’s everything unfold organically. Because naturally, we’ll be looking to the new peas in the pod.

With my safety goggles off, I think Epi could be playing us all, and using the sprityo kill as a way to frame all original Bidoofs on Pika2. Organically, and not obtrusively.

I feel stronger towards Kyle still, but see a definite possibility (should my assumption of Epi’s role be wrong) where Epi is the even that killed sprityo. I would definitely look to him before Sloonei or SD at this point.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:43 pm is boom a baddie
or is he just obstuse, bro?
can't tell. o- o- well.

I don’t like his non-implicating vote yesterday. He could have tied it up, but he didn’t. And now he’s pushing some lame reasoning as to why I’m bad. No bueno

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:00 pm Holding an AMA for myself because I love attention. I’ll answer anything to the best of my ability, so shoot
For POE purposes why shouldn't we just lynch you first, because we'll have an answer today instead of after two days?

Because. The same reason Sloonei wanted to hold off on his lynch for that day.

As well as I feel like we haven’t progressed anywhere since D13. We didn’t learn anything via Pika 2.0 with the sprityo lynch, and Sloonei shouldn’t be lynched. It should have been Kyle yesterday and the day before, and I’m just on the end of a stick here.

I stand by my word: if we lynch Kyle and he isn’t bad, kill me next. Because when I’m mislynched, we still have to sit through 2 more lynches to get him, and id like to think I look more civ than him.

What would be my end goal there if I were bad? Buying myself 3 cycles only buys myself 3 cycles. That’s asinine.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:00 pm Holding an AMA for myself because I love attention. I’ll answer anything to the best of my ability, so shoot
Make an argument for Epignosis being bad.

That's not a question, sorry.
I instead have an argument for why he’s good.

I mean, I don’t wanna blow up his spot, but I think Epi has a good role and I want him to stay around to use it again.

Would that suffice?
no

I’m gonna need to take my special goggles off then, because looking at the roles that haven’t been claimed, I’m having a hard time finding what is most definitely Epi’s role as a bad one.

But ok.

Epi is a creature of habit and has been doing all these reads as a way to seem engaged- he wouldn’t be a Strex, with his calling out of LoRab (she was pissed about it on that day too, so if that was a bus, then dammmmn son).

So it mean he’s probably an Even if bad. Ima do a quick ISO..

Okay that wasn’t that quick. And it’s impossible to search for “LC” in his post history since LC is only 2 letters.

But.

He has these shortlists as the game goes on- it seems very fluid and organic. Nutella makes the short as the list is whittled down from 7 people to 2, and then it stalls on DDL for a time, but he then switches to voting for nutella on D7. It could be said that the entire time nutella is on the short list, he says things like ‘she could be bad, I have no reason to view her as civ’ while laying off voting there. It’s a good baddie perspective to keep your options open but to leave evidence of suspicion in the case that your teammate dies. Just on his nutella sus alone, it can be construed as appearing like a hunter while not at all. Epi’s good at that.

I’ll think more about this, I’m just having trouble seeing how his role is at all useful in mafia hands

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:00 pm Holding an AMA for myself because I love attention. I’ll answer anything to the best of my ability, so shoot
Make an argument for Epignosis being bad.

That's not a question, sorry.

I instead have an argument for why he’s good.

I mean, I don’t wanna blow up his spot, but I think Epi has a good role and I want him to stay around to use it again.

Would that suffice?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:00 pm Holding an AMA for myself because I love attention. I’ll answer anything to the best of my ability, so shoot
Are you considering running another Survivor Mafia at some point?

Considering, you bet. It’s the timing that would really make my anus twitch, though. Since signups for games here can tend to stall for months, my schedule is variable and money intake is scarce, it’s not the highest of my priorities. So long answer, I would consider. But after Legends of the Hidden Temple, which is slated next.

Holding an AMA for myself because I love attention. I’ll answer anything to the best of my ability, so shoot

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:52 am Who's got a hot take on DDL?

The N14 kill was odd as shit because I feel like the only mafia team he fits in is evens (if we’re still under the impression that Strex wasn’t on pika1). So unless he committed seppuku, or suddenly changed alignments in D15, he looks fine to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:49 am [quote=S~V~S post_id=429709 time=<a href="tel:1523443191">1523443191</a> user_id=54]
@Quin I think part of it stems back to Chuck. I think you saw what I was saying re the role reveal, but thought I was in space about the "Chuck is still bad" part. And whenever I start to think that that makes no sense, I go back and reread LCs 2nd lynch, and I am right back there again. He tried HARD to get Dom lynched; both Chuck and LC did. Then after LCs flip, Chuck was like "meh" re Dom. And rereading it, it was like even more than trying to get Dom lynched, he was trying to get people to not vote for LC.

Which, with the game mechanics we did not understand at Pikachu at that point, makes eminent sense for an Even.

This belief has kind of thrown off my whole game. I don't know whether I am a freaking genius or a freaking moron. After yesterday, I am leaning to the latter tbh.

If post game it turns out Chuck was bad I will feel tons better, but right now my confidence is shot.

Re the Even we are looking for, if it is one person I think it is Scotty. He fits both set of criteria, on Slooneis list and a thread leader the day of the day 5 sigwagon. But I don'tintend on getting pushy about it as I am now afraid of haywire instincts.

Don't didtrust your instincts. If they're telling you something, listen to it.

There's a part of me that keeps coming back to Scotty too. As much as I don't feel like he is bad, I can't fully dismiss him and I keep lingering on him a little bit. At some point I'd like to go back and look at some things. He'd be one of my top targets for review.

This dumb Pikachu POE thing is tearing me apart. We still don't know if it's accurate, but it's become a fundamental piece of the puzzle regardless.
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I say again: if Kyle isn’t bad, then lynch me afterward to rest your weary minds. Not before. I’ve still got shit to do here. You definitely want me around.

Epi, rate the following names on willingness to lynch from 1-10, where 10 is most willing and 1 is against your will:

Kyle
Boom
INH
Scotty
nijuu

You’re a madman, Epi.

There is no way Boom is Strex, btw. He’s Even.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:04 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:18 am
Boomslang wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:14 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:40 pm
Boomslang wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:01 pm So... Are we just going to forget that we almost lynched cbob yesterday?
Out of an extremely limited pool of suspects?

Also we also almpst lynched you, didn't we? Are we just going to forget about that as well?
NO U Vote colonialbob aubergine.
This vote got me lynched.
Uh, no. That's like saying a vote for Ralph Nader got George Bush elected — you got lynched because there were more people who wanted you dead than who wanted Kyle dead. I don't think either of you are bad, GTH, so I voted for a third party. It'd be more accurate to say that INH's vote got you lynched, because he actually broke the tie, but any of your voters are worthy of scrutiny.

GTH reads:

Boomslang: civ (duh)
Colonialbob: bad (Strex due to Wilgy interactions)
Dom: bad (Even because Cbob is Strex; missed vote in close lynch yesterday)
DDL: civ (due to nightkill without much thread suspicion)
Epi: civ (supatown)
INH: civ (weakest civ read given voting record)
Kyle: civ (assuming I'm right about Scotty)
Quin: civ or indy (due to nightkill, role)
Scotty: bad (Even due to POE, willingness to bus Speedchuck during Wilgy lynch)
Sloonei: civ (supatown)
Spacedaisy: civ (authentic Wilgy celebration)
SVS: civ (generally helpful and thoughtful contributions)

Oh and then this bull shit right here.

Nevermind, I’m back to my original theory that Boom and Kyle are on a team.

You’re calling me bad with reasoning including “willingness to bus Speedchuck during Wilgy lynch”?? Are you kidding me? First of all, a bunch of people did that, and second of all, what team does that make me? Sure sounds like you think I’m on Wilgy’s team, bucko. Even I can understand via POE. Strex, absolutely preposterous.

Fuck it, I don’t care about saving myself. I think you’re bad, where I didn’t think that 2 cycles ago.

unvote. Vote Boomslang aubergine

My worst nightmare here is that somehow all of Pika2 is civ, and Kyle and I would be dying for nothing. I feel like a pawn at this point and back to square 1 with defending myself. SVS is back to the LC lynch coincidence, and unfortunately from her perspective, that’s the strongest intuition she’s got.

Oh aubergine vote Kyle

I’d even be willing to agree that if we lynch Kyle all the way and he’s not bad, lynch me next to clear the PoE. But not me before Kyle kthnx

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:05 pm Scotty is the opposite, I look at a lot of things like his first role and things he has said and I think he makes more logical sense to me than Kyle. Most recently that he seems to be trying to keep the field open rather than trying to pursue the Even PoE. Is he afraid the net is closing on him? Despite this, my gut is saying Kyle over Scotty. I'm not sure I understand why exactly.

As I said last night, I’d be down for either Kyle (who I believe is bad) or INH. Boom could be Even, but I’m not as sure there.

Whichever way we decide, I’m down with one of those two lynches. I just want to skip ahead to the next phase lol this flipping game is going on 7 weeks (we started feb 23rd!!!! I can’t believe that) and I’m ready for 12 hour phases

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:51 pm If you’re searching for this in the future, search for “Death List Day [x]”- it’s in the title.

Im just gonna try to post this once a phase until I die or the hosts put up a comparable list on the front page, cuz my memory ain’t what it used to be and it's a pain to search for this shit. I’ll do this one with only the facts as we know it:

DEATHS:

Color key:
Out of game, mafia team Evil Evens
Out of game, mafia team Strexcorp
Out of game, Civilian
Out of game, alignment unknown

D1 - Quin (no lynch) (link)
N1 - nijuu (link)
D2 - speedchuck (link)
N2 - Scotty (link)
D3 - nutella (changed from DDL) (link)
N3 - JackofHearts (link)
insertnamehere dies (link)
D4 - Long Con (link)
N4 - No kill (link)
D5 - Long Con (link)
N5 - Sig (link)
D6 - Colonialbob (link)
N6 - SVS (link)
D7 - Marmot (link)

BUTTON

N7 - JackofHearts (link)
Nutella dies (link)
D8 - Marmot (link)
N8 - Sprityo (link)
LoRab Dies (link)

MERGE

D9 - Wilgy (link)
N9 - DharmaHelper (link)
D10 - speedchuck (link)
N10 - No kill (link)
D11- Wilgy (link)
N11 - Dharma Helper (link)
D12 - sig (link)
N12 - Quin (link)
D13 - Lorab link
N13- No kill (link)
D14 - sprityo (link)
N14 - Dragon D Luffy (link)
D15 - Sloonei (link)
N15 - nijuu (link)

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Current Lives Left (as of D15)

Boomslang - 2
colonialbob - 1
Dom - 2
Dragon D Luffy - 1
Epignosis - 2
insertnamehere - 1
Kylemii - 2
Quin - 1
Scotty - 1
Sloonei - 1
SpaceDaisy - 2
SVS - 1

Revealed Roles

Speedchuck's role reveal during Day 7 - link
Blooper's role reveal during Day 12 - link

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:18 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:15 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:12 pm I hate this pika2 thing. There is nobody there I wanna lynch.

Then again I think theres nobody I want to lynch anymore. I may have exhausted my own PoE.

If I have to pick from that list it would be one of Epi/Scotty/Kyle I think, because Ive felt good about Daisy all day and you seem to be mechanically confirmed on role 1.
Tell me about your Epi suspicion
I... don't know?

He is Epi, if you are not a complete newbie at mafia you should know being paranoid of him is healthy.

I haven't had any reason to suspect him all game but I haven't had any reason to think he is supatown either. He has looked mostly good, like he usually does.

I do think there should be a fair level of paranoia with him in general, but I’m not looking his way in regards to the Pika2 killer. He could be pulling the wool over our eyes here, but I’m at least partially allergic to wool and would have had a sneezing fit by now so I think he’s fine.

Plus a ton of people vouch for him, which has to count for something

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:12 pm I hate this pika2 thing. There is nobody there I wanna lynch.

Then again I think theres nobody I want to lynch anymore. I may have exhausted my own PoE.

If I have to pick from that list it would be one of Epi/Scotty/Kyle I think, because Ive felt good about Daisy all day and you seem to be mechanically confirmed on role 1.

Tell me about your Epi suspicion

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:18 pm I’d be down for INH, who’s reads have almost been diametrically opposed to mine this whole game.
That's a fucking terrible reason to lynch someone.

I didn’t say that was a reason to lynch him. I’ve already stated other reasons over the course of the game.

But his voting record sure does precede itself, so it might as well be a reason.

If we don’t go Pika2 route tomorrow again (I like the name Kyle) then I’d be down for INH, who’s reads have almost been diametrically opposed to mine this whole game. Either he is super confused, a baddie, or a confused baddie. I don’t know what that means if the latter, but I don’t want to wait around to find out

The only way I can see Sloonei 1.0 being bad at this point is if SpaceDaisy is also bad on the same team and could use their civ-sounding 1st roles as leverage in the case one of them got lynched.

I don’t think that’s the case though.

Sloonei 2.0 could be Voldemort for all I know, with all that built up VENGEFIRE he just pushed onto Kyle “The Boy Who Lived” Mii

Boomslang wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:07 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:11 pm Big damn detective role right there.
Seconded.

Thanks for your non vote for cbob to add to the oh wait you didn’t add anything. You just moved down my list into bad territory again. I think you could definitely be an even. Choosing to abstain with a shitty reason (NO U which was basically Everclear of reasoning) is unacceptable at this point.

Kyle, Boom = evens
INH = Strex

The end let’s go

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:54 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:31 pm Let's say Sea Salt that you can only vote for one of the followng four Me Epi or Scotty. Who is it going to be? Because feel confdent that one of us s an Even and am not afrad of beng part of a four PoE pool because I know t's not me. I'd rather put my ass on the lne and get us movng n the rght direction than let the tinfoil lead us off trac. So who is it in your opinion yle?

SVS did I tae myself out of the group? No, I did not. Focus on this group and 'm certan we will get an Even.
I have to go to work but I'll answer this in more detail later when I'm off for the day and have had time to review some important details regarding timing and whatnot but right now I'm strongly leaning towards Scotty. like 85%

Well of course you lean that way- if not you then me. Sloonei shouldn’t be lynched tomorrow, and SD looks civ as fuck.

I’m strongly leaning towards you, like 100%.

This explains the extra day kill, honestly.

If only Sloonei could infodump

inb4 civ Sloonei is lynched and his alignment switches to a 3rd mafia team

I’m going to work- I’m going to leave my vote parked on Kyle. Both have reasons to suspect, but I think Kyle takes the cheese

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:36 pm Why did scum sloonei campaign to save scotty and push to lynch kyle for multiple phases in a row, even when kyle wasn't on the poll?

Objectively: because scum Sloonei doesn’t care who gets lynched as long as it ain’t him

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