The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:07 pm Is it just me or is there less assertive reads in this game than normal? Like, few read lists, few players asserting or grouping reads? Can we like, do that more, at least as a starting point? Maybe it's just me.

linki, like that

Here’s the issue as I see it:

Most people are vanilla and just don’t feel confident on anything. I don’t know how these “latent” powers work. But maybe people are gunshy and readshy on account of waiting for something to happen.

Oooh yeah, Dom is playing this game too. 4 posts. That’s where I should have voted yesterday. Oh well. We rode a train called freedom

Currently most suspect of, in order of most willing to lynch:

-wolbre
-sprityo
-Dom

-jack?

Dys, DDL, sig is leaning town.

Pennywise and Dom both need to talk or else they’re going to draw my vote sooner or later

Unless something crazy comes to light, I will be voting wolbre tomorrow.

Why?

-His post have an affected “niceness” to them. Dys pointed it out in D0, and sig just pointed it out after this flip.

-He hasn’t ruffled any feathers. This goes with the first point, but if you look at his brief ISO, you will see that the only 2 game-relevant posts he made were after D1 ended. One was JJJ, who he said was “being funky” but then followed with

as some sort of half assed apology. (He also apologizes later to JJJ with a “I don’t dislike you though (just so you know)”) Again, too nice.
His other point he latches onto is Kyle’s off wagon vote. I would classify Kyle’s offvote as low-hanging fruit. Somehow, wolbre avoided talking about the rest of the lynch entirely and only focused on Kyle for not being involved enough to place a vote where it counted. Not a bad argument, semantically, except-

-wolbre didn’t even vote. Pot, meet kettle. You can’t call out Kyle as your one denouncement when you yourself abstained from everything in D1.

1 down.

sig wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:42 am Ddl and scotty are both looking good right now imo.

You’re looking good to me too, my man.

Which means you’re probably mafia

After perusing the thread in sequence, I no longer think Mac is suspicious. I see what he was trying to do.

JJJ went down a few notches for me. I think my initial intuition was just to follow him and hope that he’s not bad because I don’t wanna play with a bad JJJ. How do you solve a problem like a bad JJJ?

I do think wolbre is pure mafia though. And perhaps sprityo. I don’t have a case yet, but know that’s where my head’s at.

I am less sure about jack as I was spewing yesterday. My D1 reads are notoriously shit anyway.

I actually don’t find Kyle suspicious for his off wagon vote here. I support his reasoning mostly because I too was feeling pressured during the CFD and didn’t feel like conscribing to horoscopes of badness. I know we just caught ColinisCool for doing this exact thing on D1 in Greece mafia, so I’m keeping that in mind, but since we know one of Lap and LC is supagood and we have no idea on LC yet ima leave him on the back burner.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:27 pm i don't trust that I'll be able to understand what just happened in the last 30 minutes within the 8 remaining minutes of the day, plz summarize the cases on jack and lapluie in ten words each or less

Just pop some gum in your mouth and blow out a name.

That was the last 30 min

I have no opinion of lap, I haven’t even looked at her iso today

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:26 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:22 pm I don't want to lynch Wolbre. He is the one player who seems like he has been actually not here at all to defend himself.

Lapluie seems sincere.

Jack and Long Con are my preferences.
Why long con? Cause he wasn’t playing your game or paying attention to you by voting off a train?
Why are you being so hostile? Are you stressed about losing a teammate?

No, work stuff carrying over into game. I’d step away like I should but you yoyos keep changing votes

Nah, staying on jack this time

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:22 pm I don't want to lynch Wolbre. He is the one player who seems like he has been actually not here at all to defend himself.

Lapluie seems sincere.

Jack and Long Con are my preferences.

Why long con? Cause he wasn’t playing your game or paying attention to you by voting off a train?

Oh, NOW everyone goes quiet?

fuck a duck

I only skimmed the past hour but ima vote [VOTE: jack] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:15 pm Jack went quiet while all this was happening.

So...wanna vote him?

I think someone’s teammate in this CFD business saved one of the suspects on my list.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:14 pm Spastic shit wins games.

I can’t reload or type fast enough on my phone for that shit

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:12 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm Sorry, I just had a bad day at work and I can’t keep up with this spastic shit
Well sheesh man I am just trying to find bad guys

What are the statistics for CFDs ending on mafia? Why is a train of 4 people out of control?

Sorry, I just had a bad day at work and I can’t keep up with this spastic shit

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:07 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:07 pm I’m ready to lynch Mac just for this cfd shit for the shit of it.

Because why not right?
I'd sooner lynch you.

Ok well

Do it. I’m feeling bullied (not like actually, but you and Mac are bullies and I don’t give a shit)

I’m ready to lynch Mac just for this cfd shit for the shit of it.

Because why not right?

Jack/Kyle/wolbre team

Lesgo

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:26 pm I am driving today so won't be around much and deadline is in about an hour so can we get to the part where we reach a consensus now to save an end of day clusterfuck?

Has Wolbre been posting in Greece lately?

I gotta say the pile on smells mislynchy. Look at the way Jack waited until another wagon formed before casting his self pres vote rather than getting his casemake on. I bet Scotty is his teammate.

Nope. Come up with a better train.

Just because it’s a small train doesn’t mean it’s about to crash and burn, good Mac and cheese

It’s not a buddying thing- I just happen to agree with voting the people you bring up

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:02 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:02 pm Following jay’s lead again
Why

You vote for someone, then I go, “huh, I don’t remember them” so I look at their iso

And here we are

[VOTE: wolbre] aubergine

Following jay’s lead again, brings me to wolbre and his contentless 2 posts in day 1.

I need to do work stuff, so I will pop back in around 7 to check out the poll. I’m still fine with Kyle or jack

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:01 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:01 pm I need to hear more from Avito, Dom, INH, lap, Pennywise and wolbre04. I'm a fan of the theory that mafia lays low - I saw it in spades in GOC - so I could give my vote to someone who has not participated much.
Always depends on the personality.

Not all people want to be on the DDL

Should be DL but ima let that one stay lol

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:01 pm I need to hear more from Avito, Dom, INH, lap, Pennywise and wolbre04. I'm a fan of the theory that mafia lays low - I saw it in spades in GOC - so I could give my vote to someone who has not participated much.

Always depends on the personality.

Not all people want to be on the DDL

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:00 am @novaselinenever I may have missed it but could you explain why you are voting for Avito?
I didn't like him coming in and criticizing the emojis.

To be fair, DDL did that first

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:31 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:27 pmWhat about kyle
Yeah, I understand the suspicion against him. Last game I played, Kyle was town, and very different from here, much more active and loose.

There's rather few players I would actively oppose to a lynch on. Which is sad.

What about dyslexicon

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:24 pm Waiting for Jack to do stuff. Not really impressed with his defense and the aura of "You don't make sense and I'm not really taking this game seriously and can be cheeky cause I have nothing to hide"-whateverness. Like, I'm not convinced. Meh. Just start playing already.

I have nothing on Nova, Dom, Avito, Penny, sig and probably others. Barely anything on wolbre, LC, INH and a bunch of others.

I want lapluie to engage in a conversation with me. I want to understand her playstyle.

What about kyle

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:01 pm The deadline is in 4.5 hours. 24/24 is hardcore.

Ass class is hardcore

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:40 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:25 pm [VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine
oh yeah, I forgot he was playing.

He's bad too. Calling it now.

Which one should I vote, JJJ?
As of right now I am more suspicious of Kyle. I don't think Jack's handling of my poking looks as bad as you suggest.

ok

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:25 pm [VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

oh yeah, I forgot he was playing.

He's bad too. Calling it now.

Which one should I vote, JJJ?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:19 pm I still think jack is bad fwiw. Nothing has changed for me
Cool, what gets your Jackies rustled?
his general response to the pressure today has been huffing and puffing and blowing little houses down.
most of his posts seem to be defending meta, or throwing wine at our feces

fucking faces

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:19 pm I still think jack is bad fwiw. Nothing has changed for me
Cool, what gets your Jackies rustled?

his general response to the pressure today has been huffing and puffing and blowing little houses down.
most of his posts seem to be defending meta, or throwing wine at our feces

I still think jack is bad fwiw. Nothing has changed for me

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:15 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:10 pmcool I'm town as fuck. Leave me alone now
Ehhhhgggug......

Are you sure you're not scum with Sprit? You can tell me if you are, I can keep a secret.

I'm gonna roleclaim as

Spoiler: show

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:16 pm You had already checked your role at this point though. That much is certain.

I literally checked my role when I said i did 10 minutes ago. So yes.

What I was really hoping for was juliets and jack to be in the scum chat telling me what a bonehead I was for waiting this long.
but nay, no scum today satan

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:08 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:01 pm @scotty - I'm thinking about you. You are not giving me warm and fuzzy feelings. Have you investigated the mystery of your role? Do you have gossip?
I have time now- I'm checking my role an will get back to you

cool I'm town as fuck. Leave me alone now

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 2:01 pm @scotty - I'm thinking about you. You are not giving me warm and fuzzy feelings. Have you investigated the mystery of your role? Do you have gossip?

I have time now- I'm checking my role an will get back to you

Sounds like pennywise has gotten good at lasting long into games

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:56 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:53 amAh, gotcha, didn’t even think of that
That's what I gathered from what he said to me. What's your read on Sprit then, if you were forced to give one (and I am forcing you :3)

As I was reading through I was still pinged by sprit’s decree of not lynching low posters- when he first came in he said jack only had 3 votes and that he wouldn’t vote him- my sirens went off.

But I do think I’m trapping him in a specific viewpoint because it’s different than my own. His D1 technique seems to be diametrically opposed to mine, and I just don’t know how to cope with that.

Anyhow, I read him as a light town right now after some thought.

I could vote jack tho

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:52 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:50 amHow can there be vote analysis without a result? There’s nothing to analyze for control.
I think he means he's trying to analyze who is voting who and for what reason. As in "this player voted for a bad reason and I think that is scummy".

Ah, gotcha, didn’t even think of that

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:49 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:32 am Marmot asked a single question in his eight posts of pertinence to making reads (about INH potentially voting Scotty). That's a civilian ratio for Marmot.
JaggedJimmyJay called me a civilian for the most minimal of content ever offered in the history of Marmots.

Lynch this bear.

The fight for mountain dominance. I saw both of you backpacking, and I woild far rather see a cute bear than a
thieving marmot

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:39 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:34 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 9:32 am The reason i dont want to vote these people is the circumstances of their voters.
You don't care for the votes. What do you have to say about the posts made by the people you are disparaging?
that? i didnt look at that at all jay

im going soley off of the vote analysis right now.

@MacDougall jay wanted reads of the people i listed in the posts and i was alreayd doing the "gth" for dizzy so i just underlined them for jay

How can there be vote analysis without a result? There’s nothing to analyze for control.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:56 am I don't dig Avito asking about role claiming when it says in the rules either, which LC brought up.

Most of all I want all the players who have posted very little to get in here and wow me with their amazing scum hunting skillz.

I am going to disappoint until roles start being reversed unfortunately. I’m more of statistical analyzer over tonal intuitions

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:41 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:48 pm Juliets is someone who I remember having misread in my day 1 gutreads because of her nature so I tend to overlook her somewhat now. I just re-read the sports team comment and I can see why it's pingy. It is that over explanatory pingy type of post that is how I have misread her before.

I also totally believe her. I believe she did ask her husband and if she was bad would probably expect her to ask her scum teammates. I think she is town.
I appreciate this perspective. I don't tend to think scum players would always ask things in the scum chat instead of thread though. Why would potential scum teammates necessarily know or care about baseball anyway? I think that reasoning is faulty. Anyway, I'll go back and read the post that initially "pinged" me and the surrounding posts, cause I don't remember the asking her husband thing at all actually.
I don't think it's reasonable to expect juliets to ask anyone but Epi about baseball. I could be dead wrong, but I don't think she personally cared whether the Indians won, she was showing an interest in something important to Epignosis. That's juliets-ish.

Is the idea that she was faking conversation? I could probably find a bunch of meaningless conversation posts on Day 0. Like this one:

Avito wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:39 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 6:36 am Hey folks we have a nice selection of smileys here too
Your similes sucks period
Also what are the rules here regarding role claims it's an open setup so it's banned right
For one, the role claim question was unnecessary filler because it's clearly stated in the rules.

And for two, if "similies" isn't talking about metaphor-like comparisons using "like" or "as", then screw you Avito! I made some of these Smilies, and I would put their perfect usefulness up against any Smiley set you want. Their unique expressiveness is unrivalled. I'm talking about such expressive stars as: Bring it. SHOW me better ways to evoke a friendly grin, a pout, an evil leer, either nod, nobility, suspicion...

And looking at Avito's posts, all I'm seeing is posting just to post. Looks like padding the post count with no intention of hunting at all.

[VOTE: Avito] aubergine

You use too many smilies like I use too many similies

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:39 am I actually like the theory that wolbre looks bad because of smileys. Recently I played a burglary game as scum where I kept spamming a smiley that indicated frustration at every post. Later I noticed I should have toned down. But it feels natural to post smileys because you want to look more human and friendly when you are bad.

I like you and agree with this assessment of wolbre. You’re a solid town read today. I don’t usually give those out on D1. Congrads u dun itt

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 8:17 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:18 pmSure.

You put more explanations into your reads and tend to back them up with evidence.

My initial read of you was that you were just coughing loudly and saying names and reads and then going back to your cough drop den. I couldn’t tel if you were joking or not.

But that was D0, and now here you are.
We’re your initial reads just jokes? Or would you like I expand on them?
So, did you look at your role then, or are you just hunting blindly?

Ill open and read it in a couple hours once I’m ready.

I wouldn’t call myself blind, I would say I’m just not woke yet

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:55 pm sig has three irrelevant posts. I am displeased.

I know sprityo has a post in here because the replies say so but I can’t find it.

I bet it’s irrelevant too

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:16 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:44 pm Ok ima keep making some hot takes before I take the plunge and read my role card

I don’t like Mac’s entrance into the game. Day 0 “solving the game” and then back to bed with tonsillitis. Unimpressed. I’ve seen his town game and it doesn’t yet look like that.
Do you have prejudices against people with tonsilitis?
Daddy warned me about you men with your tonsillitis
Care to explain what it is about my town game that you think is consistent enough for you to have formed a meta opinion on solid enough to claim that you are not seeing it here?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:13 pm he said it as a defense as a civ 1 million years ago during, i think fiddler? or maybe the talking one. that doesn't gauranteed that it's an always-true statement, but I have noticed it to be consistent with his behavior as a human being
Tis a safe thing to say though. To the player putting pressure on you. The raveous beast of Jay pressuring you so you pet him gently on the snout. Very safe.

Sure.

You put more explanations into your reads and tend to back them up with evidence.

My initial read of you was that you were just coughing loudly and saying names and reads and then going back to your cough drop den. I couldn’t tel if you were joking or not.

But that was D0, and now here you are.
We’re your initial reads just jokes? Or would you like I expand on them?

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