hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:32 pm
if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town
I do believe there is a difference check there.
I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.
I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious
yeah for sure. So the thing is how much stock should be put into a potential "setup" from the wolf team last night to make Roxy look bad? Like we've all seen wolf teams make kills designed to make someone not guilty look really guilty so that's a thing to be aware of.
But the counterpoint to that is "just kill wolfy people".
I think my plan for today is to sit back and re-evaluate everyone in light of flips and how they've pushed. I'm still happy with calling you town though. Sig was townie and the way you've entered the game doesn't seem like a powerwolf going for the win it really feels like town that wants to solve and get things right. Maybe I'm a sucker for tonal reads like that but when I put my feet up and think about things that's the conclusion I come to. There's not a voice in the back of my head going "but what if you're wrong" like I do with some other people.
Honestly I would use this approach as wolf regardless.
But focusing on me shouldn’t be a concern today. I could be wolf, but I am more a resource. I have 2 days of fewer content than anyone else so there are more sure bets out there to make condemnations
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:29 pm
Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?
Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy
I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.
I mean, yes. In a world where Wilgy was set up to be a frame job, who are wolves counting on to pile onto Roxy?
As a counterpoint, Wilgy dropped his shtick and started prodding in different directions. That can be dangerous for a mafia team that wants to take out dissenting voices. I don’t think looking away from Roxy because it’s ‘too obvious or easy’ is the way to approach today
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:32 pm
if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town
I do believe there is a difference check there.
I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.
I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious
again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.
Wolves must YEET town.
Pyxxy made it easy to do.
You and Porscha hold wolf weight.
You because you positioned your suspicion towards Splints rather than the accusor Pyxxy.
I have some thoughts but I'd like to hear splints response to this question:
splintsy - what do you make of pyxxy's calling you townish yesterday with your 3 posts of nothingness (no offense mine were the same ) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
Also how many games have you played with pyxxy that they could read you in 3 posts?
This post.
Specifically was wolfy.
Your posture being towards Splints makes this more likely a pocket vs an actual means to assess Pyxxy who we now know as town.
Hmmm...so this makes me curious if part of the reason for Wilgy's NK was to push over Roxy...this direct sus of Roxy's slot makes it so easy to push Roxy this RD.
Like, does Maf Roxy kill Wilgy here w/ this sus, not to mention they've already been getting heat prior? This just makes it easier to see Roxy as W!...but like, it's too easy.
Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?
Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy
@Scotty now that you've woken up, can you give me fresh eyes on these 3 slots?
I should be doing what I like doing when I’m spec’ing- seeing the voting breakdown and not reading a bit of the thread to make wild, unsubstantiated calls on players.
I mean, I sorta did that when I came in, which made me feel the D1 pyxxy poll is fishy. At least one of Roxy/splints has to be bad from my perspective UNLESS Dennis is exactly town and wolves were fine to let town cannabalize each other. Which is possible but unlikely at this point. We obviously have to find the BEST case we can to get a wolf today. I have 3/7 chances to find the correct one (I am town) which ain’t terrible odds.
Anyway, hk/neon/lemon
I’ve said I liked neon’s iso- haven’t looked through citrus pixie or X-ray kat. Will do so in a bit
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:05 am
I think I actually like the pacing of this game
feels pretty chill
I can't handle a lot of stress these days :c
You should dislike the pacing as it has yielded mylo and there is no reason to be chill
I’m here to infuse a bit of life into this game, but like in a game of Operation, the patient was either dead to begin with or someone increased the buzzing voltage and it’s making the players nervous
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:34 am
roxy posting with a spicy tone makes me want to feel good things about them
Last time Roxy got spicy with me, I was pushing their wolf teammate SVS.
good to know. I was coming at it from the "I can get spicy when pushed as town so maybe Roxy does as well"
Roxy has a little spice to her always. I’d say it’s NAI
What I do disagree with is the idea that she was trying to “pocket me”. I just don’t see that. It wouldn’t make sense for a w Rox to engage with me that way. I know her better than most. She wouldn’t specifically call my attention to her like that.
This post doesn’t make sense for Roxy and splints to be w/w in my small brained opinion
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:29 pmD | E | N | N | I | S
is
locktown
D | E | N | N | I | S
does not
K̷i̴l̷l̸
møthér...
This read is bad
Was Dennis pure then?
Was Dennis pure then?
Odds
ARE
That if so...
Then OPENs
Up to ROXY and DENNIS
But no, that doesn't make sense.
Surely you don't feel that Roxy and Dennis
Are BOTH in the PoE still.
That would be...
So lovely...
I’m confused by what you are saying here
One W on Dennis.
Who was that?
Be careful or they'll use a bat
One W on Pyxxy.
Who was that?
Be careful or they'll make you flat
One W floating free.
Who was that?
Be careful or they'll make you DEAD
Point 1 is ONLY impossible if there's a
W Dennis or
A 2nd on Pyxxy
The 2nd
Hoho ho...
The 2nd on Pyxxy
Is likely
Roxy.
again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.
This is certainly an argument to be made- I don’t mind it as an alternative investigation.
…although it invalidates the argument as Roxy was a pyxxy voter, which summons up ‘These are not the droids you are looking for’ vibes
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:40 pm
HK lookin kinda sussy right out of the gate. Nice.
irk, makes wolves want to push on me. ez pickings after that.
So clearly the best route for us is to d1 HK, then D2 me.
Was a pleasure playing with y'all. Game's solved.
I donut support this plan I think we skip step 1 and go right to 2
Hell yeah, so we are thinking D1 me, D2 ?, D3 Neon then?
This post on D1 just jumped out to me because of Neon’s post. @Neon why so against an HK yet D1?
Because I've been town reading HK this whole game lol
wait so I just combed through your iso.
This was on D1, and I saw no instance of you ever giving an indication that you townread HK on D1. It just seems like a weird jump to state that you want to skip HK and go straight to Wilgy on D1 without ever previously explaining your HK read
Looked through Neon’s ISO and I think she’s just town.
Her progressions make sense and at this point with only so much content we have to make a towncore.
I agree that Roxy looks suspicious, and wish she had been around on D2 to place a vote for more info. If Roxy is bad, I don’t see a world where Neon or Lemonfairy is bad. But that’s getting ahead of myself, because if Roxy is the yeet today and she’s town, we just lose.
My vote is obviously malleable and we have to consolidate today. I’ll be looking at everyone as potential suspects fyi
Provided we don’t hammer.
Since hammer is at 5, and we lose with a misyeet, I’m moving my vote to unvote because a coordinated wolf dog pile can happen with just 2 votes on a town
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:52 am
I also think Dennis is probably town.
I thought Dennis would kill Kate regardless of her read on him but killing Kate and Wilgy back to back both of whom were shielding him feels outside Dennis' wolf range and super risky for a slot that's had pretty consistent pressure
Keep in mind we’re dealing with 3 wolves, not just Supreme Leader Big D. Wilgy might have been more dangerous to someone else.
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:01 am
Scotty entry isn't openly wolfy I suppose
What was your take of sig in the brief interaction you’ve had?
Wasn't terrible
He called me out for something I did as a wolf with him but I thought it was kinda weird he thought I would try the same thing again, with my 2 teammates in the game
Tried townreading him for it to see how he reacts and he did not so
Your 2 teammates being..falcon and sig? Lol
Another question: hypothetically, would you ever kill your mom N1 as a wolf?
My teammates from that game silly (we all know you and hk are my teammates)
Yeah probs, but not in that situation. Picture yourself as wolf dennis in this situation
You are 1 vote away from being top wagon, and sig was calling for you to be killed the next day, and Kate, the person who reads you best, is townreading you. Do you kill the person who would defend you (Kate) or not
That makes less sense for sure
But would you ever kill your mom N1 as wolf? (Not just in this game)
Oh, and I ISO’d splints and I still feel good with my vote there. Not a lot of content produced that have amounted to anything more than being the only carryover in both misyeets.
And I’ve seen some comments about suspicion thrown around for low posting: to be clear, every one of you goobers are low posting, and I believe that is why we’re currently in this- to quote Wilgy- P I C K L E
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:01 am
Scotty entry isn't openly wolfy I suppose
What was your take of sig in the brief interaction you’ve had?
Wasn't terrible
He called me out for something I did as a wolf with him but I thought it was kinda weird he thought I would try the same thing again, with my 2 teammates in the game
Tried townreading him for it to see how he reacts and he did not so
Your 2 teammates being..falcon and sig? Lol
Another question: hypothetically, would you ever kill your mom N1 as a wolf?
D1’s vote for pyxxy most likely has at least one wolf in Roxy/splints
Roxy/splints looks like a pretty compatible wolf pairing if I ever saw it based on the vote count analysis
D2 is a bit trickier as sig and Roxy didn’t vote. I know sig is good. The ‘wagons’ yesterday were a bit too unconsolidated to make heads and tails of the counterwagons being wolves. But since 3 wolves are still around, it would be rather easy to manipulate
Just gonna lay a vote for now on [VOTE:
fingersplints] aubergine as I continue to sniff around
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:32 pm
sup scotty I think Kate was a SPK given they were the second most prolific person (or most i can't remember) in the thread before they died. My guess is the wolf team felt Kate was most likely to drive discussions/engage with everyone, and nobody really suspected Kate as being a wolf therefore blammo
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:27 am
@DrWilgy I don't understand your groupings or why you did not think to include Dennis or falcon.
I gave my list yesterday you have since jumped onto my Porscha is bad so you must agree with some of my thoughts.
It is
Quite literally
The wagons and who voted on them
Group 1. Dennis voters.
Group 2. Free voters.
Group 3. Pyxxy voters.
W in each makes sense does it not?
Wilgy making wagonomic analysis
Wilgy killed.
Maybe something in this?
I’m going to go straight to cherry picking ISOs based on NKs first. Maybe I’ll catch up by reading the short 11 pages later.
First- Kate. Why the heck was Kate killed N1? That’s already a . Her ISO doesn’t have many suspicions besides pyxxy, who immediately flipped town. This seems like a preventative kill on the surface. Who would want Kate dead out of everyone in this game? My initial suspects lie with people that might be scared of Kate down the line. This lines up with more of a relationship read in Dennis/Roxy/splints. again, this is only based upon reading of Kate’s iso
) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
. Her ISO doesn’t have many suspicions besides pyxxy, who immediately flipped town. This seems like a preventative kill on the surface. Who would want Kate dead out of everyone in this game? My initial suspects lie with people that might be scared of Kate down the line. This lines up with more of a relationship read in Dennis/Roxy/splints. again, this is only based upon reading of Kate’s iso