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It means it's as if instead of Hilary Swank, they cast Abigail Breslin in Million Dollar Baby, and Quin is Abigail Breslin. It's just wholly unbelievable to me, and he doesn't look the part.Prisoner 509378 wrote:What does that mean?Scotty wrote:Nothing about your behavior screams a civ that has a stake in the game.
I go back and forth. And I don't want a mislynch. I don't know his play style as civ or scum, since he is new, but both he and Nero are an anomaly. Both have voted all over the place all game, and for lackluster reasons. I led that case against him and was willing to chock it up to a culture misunderstanding, but the more I think about it, his defense showed that he has an awareness and is fully capable of explaining himself.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I think chaindeath has had a terrible phase too. He's one of my top suspects now. I'd also consider that lynch, though I know that hasn't been as thorough a conversation. How does everyone feel about him right now?
If you really want to die that bad, then just vote yourself. Nothing about your behavior screams a civ that has a stake in the game.Quin wrote:I don't remember the last time I said anything specific about Enrislang. If I recall, he'd dropped right into the middle of my rainbow list on day 3/4 and I haven't mentioned him since.Scotty wrote:I think that Boom flipping bad actually makes Quin look worse, which is what I've been trying to paint for you all for a while now, so I'm down with a Boom lynch
I'm still catching up. Why can't you all put me out of my misery?
No shorter than yesterday, unless I've grown!Prisoner 509378 wrote:At least the Boomslang wagon is currently populated by consensus town reads, short maybe of Scotty.
Much of what Quin is suggesting is based off of an ika flip. So here we are.Prisoner 509378 wrote:No nevermind, all of this is clearly implied in the Warden's role, and once the word "arrest" came out apart from "dead", it's a very easy conclusion to draw.
Scotty, I think I might agree with Quin about you. Much of what you just referenced is dependent upon a Boomrique mafia flip which does not exist right now -- suggesting you should be pursuing a lynch of Boom first and not Quin. Moreover, your attacks on his treatment of ika don't make sense.Quin wrote:I had thought that arrested players get put into another thread which consists of the jailmates and probably the warden. Maybe they have some sort of goal to achieve in there?
linki: Well, I am open to hearing what you have to say when you are able to catch up.
There is nothing illogical about this:
Scotty wrote:Calling out ika for not justifying votes. "It's how you justify [reads] that gives [the reads] power."
So essentially, he's justifying his read of ika (and marginally, Enrique) on account of ika not justifying his reads. Got it.
Not true. I just saw Boom's name pop up on the users browsing this forum last night.sig wrote:The issue I see about a Boom lynch is that he is inactive. Yes he could be mafia, but I think it would be better to target an active mafia.
I looked over Ika's slip as and his defense. I think he actually did make a slip. While rare they do occasionally happen. I'm very confident that if we lynch Ika we will catch a scum.
He sure called it. Now, a civ could have predicted this sure, but to the T? A goal to achieve?Quin wrote:I had thought that arrested players get put into another thread which consists of the jailmates and probably the warden. Maybe they have some sort of goal to achieve in there?
Again, linking ika and Enrique because of lack of gut read. Vote is still on me for now.Spoiler: show
back to ika, because it's gaining traction.Quin wrote:Is it too late to start another bandwagon?DrWilgy wrote:Idk, but for some reason I want to lynch both Ika and Wolf.Epignosis wrote:What the hell have I been reading the past few pages?
I'll be returning to my vote on ika. I'm still pretty determined for Scotty but nobody seems to agree, so I'll come back to him at another point.
Calling out ika for not justifying votes. "It's how you justify [reads] that gives [the reads] power."Spoiler: show
Continues to feel his votes are justified. Backs off on Enrique. See, he came down pretty hard on Enrique at the end of day 1, but here he just slaps him on the back of the wrist, and moves on to his biggest suspicion yet again: me.Spoiler: show
He's practically begging us.Quin wrote:lynch me then
youre really perpetuating my perception of you having that one big eye, aintcha?Epignosis wrote:Scotty wrote:been bussing
a pale-white, roundish fellow with a bald spot and a capeNerolunar wrote:Scotty what do you picture me as?
So defeatist! You don't even have a vote yet, my man. btw your name always reminds me of Lt. Serge from Pokemon. I like to give people faces to the name and I always imagine you as a smirking man with a pointed noise and frosted tips. Where as Epignosis I imagine is a gruff ruffian of a man with one eye bigger than the other and a habitual chewer of his inner cheekSerge wrote:I am on a trip for two days starting tomorrow. I won't be here when everyone lynches me.
Good luck!
I almost feel like we are the same person sometimes this game with reads. I don't know if I should find you suspicious for that, or my long lost sister. You're not. She's 10.S~V~S wrote:I am going back to my Quin vote. I would be equally happy with Boomrique, though. I think both had abysmal reactions to the Fuzz wagon. Quins reactions to suspicion have also gotten my eye.
*Cue Quin making tunnel remark
I have an open mind to whatever develops, but for now, I have never stopped thinking he was bad.
Yes, but don't you find it at least slightly disconcerting that someone you suspect at a 7/10 in scumminess voted for the same person? I know I would pause. Even if you use the buddying argument- if ika is bad- you are inadvertently agreeing with scum and he is either bussing a teammate early or throwing a civ under the bus. Ya dig, silver?Silverwolf wrote:No one should be surprised I'm voting for Draconus as I have already said I was going to push him right away today. If ika also votes for him, not much I can do about that.
But silver voted after ika...Quin wrote:I think its more 'ika is just going to vote whoever Silver votes' as opposed to a coordinated plan to vote togethersig wrote:7 to 1 that is pretty good. Only SVS is being mean to me. :P
So the cops killed someone. That isn't very good. However, Fuzz cop is dead again which is a plus for us as well as our prison buddies.
So guess I was wrong about Golden, this means I'm most likely wrong about Sloonie also. I need some time to think on things. However, I do find it very strange that Ika and Silver are voting together considering Silver thinks Ika is scummy.
Right this second I think Nero or Chain are bad. If one is the other is civ. I still have some doubts on Sloonie. Besides that I'm not sure. I did think Ika was a good lynch choice yesterday.
I'm always welcome to different cases on people, and having outside eyes on the game I think has been beneficial. In the back of my mind, though, is the feeling that I'm so dead set on specific people to influence how I feel about another person that I'm feeling lost in the game on reads of others. I feel like that is what silver was lamenting, in that people have been restarting every day with different names and reads, and it hasn't got us anywhere.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I think a lot of people still want to lynch a lot of people, and that's understandable.Scotty wrote:I also I stil want to lynch Quin if that isn't perfectly obvious
I do think the current game circumstance demands total reassessment though, by everyone. I'm not saying the prior baddie reads are wrong, but I wouldn't feel comfortable just walking my vote over to another suspect we've been fielding for days without really examining it.
You didn't answer my question.Silverwolf wrote:Right, I told you guys why I thought he was scum and the herd mislynched dragon instead. There is undoubtedly scum on that wagon. There's 5 of them left. I think Draconus is one for sure. He wanting to lynch ika in twilight makes me wonder.Scotty wrote:Wait so you're changing your mind on ika after calling him scum for 2 days due to his scum play style, and now that he could be a candidate, you're renouncing voting for him because "you don't like following the herd"?Silverwolf wrote:At this point I've lost my enthusiasm for voting for ika. He's been up for a lynch twice and both times, herd mentality caused a different lynch. Fuzz was great but dragon sucked. And now it looks like the herd is moving to ika and I don't like following the herd. Just because they were right once, doesn't mean this is the way to play the game. It gives scum great opportunities to hide and mislynch town. I'd go after DDL wagoners and in particular the opportunistic Draconus who is already lining up lynches. I'd appreciate it if people would try to listen to me this time.
If you think he's bad, stick to your guns.
Also DDL wasn't a CFD like Fuzz. He had arguments against him and the vote was mounting throughout the day. Are you saying ika isn't bad anymore in your eyes?
Sloonei-Draconus is part of the herd and is opportunistic scum.
Prisoner 509-I have already laid out the case on him and also requoted it when indiglo asked again. I can go get that again if necessary but I'm gonna go get a case going on Draconus instead.
Wait so you're changing your mind on ika after calling him scum for 2 days due to his scum play style, and now that he could be a candidate, you're renouncing voting for him because "you don't like following the herd"?Silverwolf wrote:At this point I've lost my enthusiasm for voting for ika. He's been up for a lynch twice and both times, herd mentality caused a different lynch. Fuzz was great but dragon sucked. And now it looks like the herd is moving to ika and I don't like following the herd. Just because they were right once, doesn't mean this is the way to play the game. It gives scum great opportunities to hide and mislynch town. I'd go after DDL wagoners and in particular the opportunistic Draconus who is already lining up lynches. I'd appreciate it if people would try to listen to me this time.
I'm showing my leprechaun green.Sloonei wrote:No, I don't know what it means. Are you angry? Mourning? Lost in the woods?Scotty wrote:is this better for you, color nazi?Golden wrote:I think ika and silverwolf have been clear that their trust/suspicion of each other is based on game information and not merely their real life bond. BR and LC very rarely actively suspect each other in the thread, I don't really see ika and silverwolf as different. It is for us to figure out how reliable their reads on each other are over time.
Scotty claims he is speaking on topic while using off topic green
is this better for you, color nazi?Golden wrote:I think ika and silverwolf have been clear that their trust/suspicion of each other is based on game information and not merely their real life bond. BR and LC very rarely actively suspect each other in the thread, I don't really see ika and silverwolf as different. It is for us to figure out how reliable their reads on each other are over time.
Scotty claims he is speaking on topic while using off topic green
short answer: it is.Golden wrote:Human Centipede is bad enough, without a rudimentary diagram. It isn't even close to anatomically accurate.Matt wrote:Er, my smiley was towards Golden and SVS, not Scotty's weird Human Centipede doodle...
Matt wrote:Er, my smiley was towards Golden and SVS, not Scotty's weird Human Centipede doodle...
don't lie, Matt.Prisoner 740359 wrote:I'd like to sow him up, if you know what I mean.S~V~S wrote:The Wardens whole job here is to sow paranoia, WIFOM, etc.Prisoner 740359 wrote:Hmm, Warden putting Turnip Head on a blue pedestal...
It doesn't. I think he was mKing the argument that I shouldn't suspect him because he was also a voter on gleam? Maybe?Golden wrote:I don't get it, why is being one of the voters on gleam make DDL a potential don?
If he is a don, and just walked off in a huff like that because he's been frustrated since day 2, I would be very surprised. Very surprised.ika wrote:well how so?Scotty wrote:ika wrote:DDL is town where are people getting off on this?because he's bad?
moreso, he was one of the voters on gleam so it is entirely possible he could be a don...... this was dicussed in night by you scotty
ika wrote:DDL is town where are people getting off on this?
because he's bad? 
Oh man I want to lynch you.Quin wrote:Interesting that Sloonei decided that me finding Scotty while not being caught up on his chaindeath ISO was suspicious yet had nothing to say when Black Rock did the same thing to meBlack Rock wrote:This thread has gotten crazy and I am now drowning in it. I'm working from noon till whenever they don't need me today. A girl got fired the other day and I have been covering her shifts. So I am going to vote for Quin. I still think Quins a good vote, even though I haven't read the past 25 freaking pages.
You haven't really taken any real heat until the past day or so. What happened at the end of Day 2 that made you frustrated?Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I'm tired of this game. I have been feeling nothing but anger and frustration since Night 2. I don't think I've ever felt so bad about a mafia game before (sorry hosts, it's not your fault).
I'm gonna vote Sig and disappear until Night 6. Because I'll be travelling during this weekend. I'm about to do a very difficult exam and I want distance from the negativity this game brings.
Voting for Sig. We should have lynched him ages ago. If you want to know why, read all my posts about him. Or Epi's latest posts, since he pretty much summed what I think.
Bye.
Thanks sock.MovingPictures07 wrote:Yes.Scotty wrote: @HOSTS
Can the Warden's role vote twice during prison breaks- 1 via sock and 1 via real moniker?
This is the literal exercise of WIFOM.Warden wrote:I hope I didn't miss the opportunity to cast a vote. Are we lynching sig or ika?
@HOSTSPrisoner 740359 wrote:[Host citation needed]Scotty wrote:This might actually work to our advantage.Prisoner 740359 wrote:WHATWarden wrote:I hope I didn't miss the opportunity to cast a vote. Are we lynching sig or ika?
How can you vote as well?!
I'm assuming whoever the warden is can't vote as both the sock warden and the real player. So we can limit who the warden might be based on which named players don't vote today.
Everyone should vote.
I think the Warden got priviledges just like us, but extra ones since his role is also in the game.
Either that or he just dun goof'd and voted as his sock, which I kinda doubt, since I expect better of Golden.
What advantage I could see, perhaps, is that whoever the Warden votes might not be a cop, especially if it's a name he could bring that person ahead in the tally. But even here, his move could be sheer WIFOM.
This might actually work to our advantage.Prisoner 740359 wrote:WHATWarden wrote:I hope I didn't miss the opportunity to cast a vote. Are we lynching sig or ika?
How can you vote as well?!
S~V~S wrote:I think I figured it out.Nerolunar wrote:That was meant for SVS, sorry.
And sig saying he won't flip bad makes me realize why we are having a discussion about Seemers....
I thought it was quite obvious when his role was revealed after being modkilled that he is not a seemer.sig wrote:I'm not saying anyone should out there role and who is to say I didn't leave a crumb trail. :PScotty wrote:sig wrote:Okay that doesn't make me think better of you then.Nerolunar wrote:Yes, you are overthinking.sig wrote:Could someone give me there take on Nero and LC's interaction? I'll highlight the few things I found strange later when I'm not doing school as well as finish my ISO of Nero.
So question if LC was a cop and the real role is alive does that mean Nero is a teammate and they planned it so we believe Nero had BTSC with LC when in fact he didn't? Or am I overthinking things.
I wouldn't say widely suspected, but I do think it is possibly.Sloonei wrote:Why is LC widely suspected of being the undercover cop?
I think he is trying to say if LC is Crew why didn't the people who had BTSC with him say anything or hint it when the LC might be undercover cop thing came up.S~V~S wrote:He was revealed as Crew; why would his partners dispute that? Or am I foolishly missing some very basic thing here?Prisoner 740359 wrote:Was Long Con's flip disputed (or hinted at "seeming" wrong) after he was arrested? A Crew should have been in BTSC with the Capo, right, so technically two players should have disputed (or hinted) at something being amiss.Nerolunar wrote:There is a scumrole in the setup that can pose as another role when lynched.
Actually while we are on this topic, I mostly threw shade at Chaindeath at the time. My goal was not to defend LC, but I did notice Chaindeaths behavior. That was my first ping of him - he decided to vote for LC when the only thing LC had posted was his disagreement to the plan that everyone should be voted for, to trigger the traitors. Very weak reasoning from Chaindeath that he didn´t follow up on rubbed me the wrong way and still does.
Long Con -- Crew -- Lynched - Day 3 -- Killed in a shooting as Prisoner 888206 - Day 5
Why didn't you out your role when we tried to lynch you twice?
Of course thinking about it more if LC wasn't Crew I'd think the real Crew member would speak up.
Also him dying as a prisoner probably means he wasn't the seemer. Which isn't helpful.
@Silver why are you lynching Ika?
Look eerily similar in cadence and form to this post:chaindeath wrote:12 it would seem is the number of pages chaindeath can read before his eyes glass over and he cannot get any useful information from the game's forum. He is going to eat and play some BOI and come back in an hour or two.
Both talk in 3rd person, both end in an emojI, 2 minutes apart. The only difference is, prisoner 331347 has already done more digging and hypothesizing than chaindeath has on the game.Prisoner 331347 wrote:Could someone update this one on the case on ika? Surfing back, he and the Silverwolf have been tight as twine since early on. I see a serious gang against him on the second day, only to have Fuzz come in and blow his own brains out, so to speak.
This one wonders what Silverwolf's position is as well, and if the change of heart is a method of distancing.
sig wrote:Okay that doesn't make me think better of you then.Nerolunar wrote:Yes, you are overthinking.sig wrote:Could someone give me there take on Nero and LC's interaction? I'll highlight the few things I found strange later when I'm not doing school as well as finish my ISO of Nero.
So question if LC was a cop and the real role is alive does that mean Nero is a teammate and they planned it so we believe Nero had BTSC with LC when in fact he didn't? Or am I overthinking things.
I wouldn't say widely suspected, but I do think it is possibly.Sloonei wrote:Why is LC widely suspected of being the undercover cop?
I think he is trying to say if LC is Crew why didn't the people who had BTSC with him say anything or hint it when the LC might be undercover cop thing came up.S~V~S wrote:He was revealed as Crew; why would his partners dispute that? Or am I foolishly missing some very basic thing here?Prisoner 740359 wrote:Was Long Con's flip disputed (or hinted at "seeming" wrong) after he was arrested? A Crew should have been in BTSC with the Capo, right, so technically two players should have disputed (or hinted) at something being amiss.Nerolunar wrote:There is a scumrole in the setup that can pose as another role when lynched.
Actually while we are on this topic, I mostly threw shade at Chaindeath at the time. My goal was not to defend LC, but I did notice Chaindeaths behavior. That was my first ping of him - he decided to vote for LC when the only thing LC had posted was his disagreement to the plan that everyone should be voted for, to trigger the traitors. Very weak reasoning from Chaindeath that he didn´t follow up on rubbed me the wrong way and still does.
Long Con -- Crew -- Lynched - Day 3 -- Killed in a shooting as Prisoner 888206 - Day 5
Did It look like this?indiglo wrote:Thanks! Sadly, no one else will ever get to see how weird that looked.
Remind me again of why you place DDL so high on this list? And I guess zebra too. They're both pretty null-yellow for me, as i can't make up my mind one way or another.Sloonei wrote:For the record:
Golden
SVS
Silverwolf
indiglo
Scotty
ika
Dragon D. Luffy
zebra
(Alphabetized)
Black Rock
Draconus/Mongoose
Epignosis
sprityo/Matt 2.0
Nerolunar
Serge
Soneji
thellama
Turnip Head
chaindeath
Boomslang/Enrique
sig
Quin
Obviously that's too much yellow, but those players will all start to develop more color later in the day, I hope.
S~V~S wrote:What a lovely rainbow!
indiglo wrote:Not a bad idea at all, I think. Especially after the Gleam lynch (well, at least for me).
Wait... blue? Is that like, my dark green? Like, confirmed civ in your mind? Or did I miss a whole shade in the rainbow list? I did dark green, light green, yellow, orange, red.
What happened to your plea of lynchig sig because 'until he is lynched the town won't move on'. Is sig not worth a lynch for you anymore?Nerolunar wrote:I can´t remember if there were other people online at the time. I asked Fuzz about this because IIRC he had not been very vocal on reads at the time. I wanted him to talk more and since he was online anyways I just asked him.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Checking Nerolunar's interactions with Fuzz:
I doubt Fuzz was the only person Nero happened to see online, so it could be noteworthy that he felt the need to prod him like this. It was his only such prod.Spoiler: show
This was Nero's only mention of Fuzz, and Fuzz never mentioned Nero in any non-OT text. It appears he voted early for ika on the day of their tally duel and the vote stayed there for the long haul. The total absence of interactivity, combined with an uninspiring vote and the specificity of the above prod choice make me willing to call Nerolunar a suspect. I could see him as a team mate of Fuzz.
Anyways, its confusing that all these prisoners have showed up. I would like you guys to only talk on topic and try to maximize town effort - It will be dificult to find scum if half of the thread is off topic or not helpful from now on. So help us hunt scum instead of running around verbally if you know what I mean. I mean no offense by this, obviously.
Chaindeath
I ask everyone to evaluate Chaindeaths posts and tell me how he can possibly be civ. Im so tunnel minded on this and it would be cool if other people would provide reads on him. Im interested to see why some of you are townreading him, because I simply can´t.
And the trumpets heralded "thou shalt always have a leash so thou dost better prove yourself civ"sig wrote:What do you make of his interaction with LC especially considering that LC flipped as a BTSC role. I thought Nero was mafia until I saw his hard early defense of LC, it wouldn't make much sense unless he knew LC was civ. Mainly his interaction with Chaindeath over LC.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Checking Nerolunar's interactions with Fuzz:
I doubt Fuzz was the only person Nero happened to see online, so it could be noteworthy that he felt the need to prod him like this. It was his only such prod.Spoiler: show
This was Nero's only mention of Fuzz, and Fuzz never mentioned Nero in any non-OT text. It appears he voted early for ika on the day of their tally duel and the vote stayed there for the long haul. The total absence of interactivity, combined with an uninspiring vote and the specificity of the above prod choice make me willing to call Nerolunar a suspect. I could see him as a team mate of Fuzz.
Someone pointed out I should come out of my shell. I've been making cases, but have also for the last two phases defending myself. This leaves little room for case building.
Committing was my New Years resolution.Sloonei wrote:This is a problem, Scotty. I have serious commitment issues. What do you think of Mr Luffy?Scotty wrote:'AyyyyyyySloonei wrote:I'm probably starting to feel better about lynching Quin than sig again.
Quin wrote:I don't agree that they are dangerous to the point that they shouldn't be considered. There is a lot of information to be found in taking this angle, and while you say that these lynches are based on the 'If' factor, I could just as easily put the same cases forward without the link between you and I would still feel confident that you are all bad. I don't think you should be refuting this, because information is good information regardless of its form. on that same line of thought, then, lynching you should give us plenty of informationSloonei wrote:I'll stop you right here and say that this line of thinking can often be dangerous. The likelihood that you'll ever catch 4 baddies together because of their interactions with one another in the thread when NONE of the players in question are even confirmed as bad is slim to none. But, onto the individual cases...Quin wrote:There are four ideal choices for me right now. Part of why I asked you in the first place was because I wanted to know about what kind of links you could make between your lynch choices. I didn't get exactly what I wanted, but I supposed that's what I get for not making myself clearer.
I've had four people in my mind who would be great lynches. Each of these four have had connections with each other which, to me, came across as building an association with each other that might spare them scrutiny if the others were lynched. You could argue that the links I've made could apply to anybody, and you're not wrong. But I feel confident in these specific ones.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say you can't "see a side of him to get a good read from". Does "good" mean "strong", or does it mean "town"? Either way, I'm not sure what the suspicion is based off of. If it's just that he's hard to read, shouldn't that make him a null read? Also, what do you make of his big chaindeath ISO that he just told me to look at? I've had doubts about Scotty too, but the investigation he put on in that one post made me feel a bit better about him.Scotty would be the first. I'm yet to see a side of him in this game I could get a good read from. I think other people are coming around to that realisation as well, which is good. Couple that with my original 'what if' in regards to Tranq, I think he's playing a clever, under the radar game.
For clarification to anyone else who might be reading, the "you" in this post is Golden, I believe. Quin can correct me if I'm wrong.If he flipped scum, you would be my next point of interest. I think a lot of your posts have been black and white, an interpretation that others also have commented on. You are also connected to my Tranq case, as you made up a shaky defence for Scotty by saying that the police probably knew Tranq can be a threat, but that didn't address my original point at all.
Back to Quirinius, my sirens are again going off at that big "If" at the beginning of this paragraph. IF scotty flips scum. You are now putting the cart in front of the horse. If that happens, sure, this can be a legitimate line of thought, but I can't approve of any case that relies on such an unsubstantiated piece of evidence. I also still don't agree with your assessment that Tranq's N1 arrest should be connected back in any way to Scotty. Frankly it seems like an odd connection to make, and I'm not sure what drew you to it. I can't think of any reason why a player voting for the person killed on Night 1 should indicate that that player is bad.
So I am a suspect on the third layer of If? Golden's been a solid town read. I also still have trouble grasping why you thought my Day 2 and 3 behavior was so outrageously scummy. I began to formulate stronger reads because the game had been going on for a while. This is a normal thing that happens (and then unhappens when work interferes).If you then flipped scum, I'd lynch Sloonei. He and you have had a very interesting relationship in this game. I am almost convinced that you have a BTSC link together. I take this interpretation since you are quite possibly the only player Sloonei has yet to question. (I just confirmed this, and in doing so, I learned that I can filter things!) From my understanding of Sloonei's personality, there's no other conclusion I can make. I don't have the same level of tangible evidence to argue for Sloonei's lynch, but I don't think I was seeing a civilian Sloonei throughout EoD2 to EoD3.
Four Ifs, and even you are now admitting that you're reaching. Nero was also a strong town read for me early on, but he's kind of lost that spot as the game has worn on.If I was correct yet again, at which point you should be revering me as your one true mafia god, I would lynch Nerolunar. There was a moment that really caught my attention very early, when Sloonei asked if there were any cases that would paint Nero as scum. At this point, I don't think any strong cases painting Nero as scum or civ were out there, so it just seemed a bit wild. This is admittedly the weakest link between the four of you, but no less significant in my eyes. Nero also jumped on the idea of lynching Epignosis for the sake of obtaining information. This is definitely ironic of me to scum read him for, since it was my idea, but Nero has been very 'passive' in this game. He also suggested lynching sig so people would stop talking about him. This is not GOOD town behaviour, in my eyes, so I can only hope is scum for suggesting that.
This post has way too many Ifs in it for me to get behind, and I don't agree with points 1-3 anyway. If you have time, I wouldn't mind hearing some more complete and isolated thoughts about each of Scotty and Nero.
also to hyperlink a post you simply click the red heading that appears at the top of the post ("[DAY 5] Turf Wars...") and the link in your search bar becomes a direct link to that post.
i assume there will be a mountain of linki that i'm just gonna ignore.
or just the one post.
With Scotty, 'good' means 'civ'. I haven't seen anything that I can label as civ-like. I feel good about that assumption because I'm not the only person to say this. I haven't read his chaindeath ISO. I'll do so and tell you, but at this point I am feeling good about chaindeath. I don't think that my thoughts on Tranq are stretched at all. Why do you think Tranq was lynched? Do you agree that it was because he might pose as a threat early on? I don't. I see Scotty arresting his EoD1 vote as an attempt to exploit the fact that being wrong in a lynch can give you civ-points. a couple things here. One- Tranq wasn't lynched, bub. I still don't see how getting a lynch wrong makes me look good as civ. I'm always disappointed in myself when I vote a civ in a lynch. Two- You're pushing for my lynch but you aren't reading my posts? Like, one case on chaindeath does not a civ make, but I'm actually pushing for cases as opposed to some people and you've been rubbing me the wrong way with your irregard of civ behavior. The more Golden and Sloonei post, the more civ they look. Like, suspect me all you want I guess, but at least show me better reasoning how our 2 biggest posters are scummy. Because I don't see it, and actually I feel like you're trying to push an unnecessary lynch on two of our strongest assets. Lynch me, I turn up good. 'Whoopsidaisy! Well, time to lynch Sloonei! Gosh darn it! Well, good thing we got information, right guys?'
You are correct that 'you' is Golden. I posted that and thought that things would be misunderstood, but I think most people would catch on to it anyway. I think you're taking my 'If' routine to mean that I wouldn't want any of the four of you lynched unless one of the others flip bad first. Make no mistake that I think all of you are worth lynching. The 'If' is the icing on the cake to say that, based on this persons associations, that person would come off badly.
I would like to hear more about Golden and your relationship in this game, what is it exactly that gives you so much trust in him? That other post tells you what I think already, but I'd like your input.
With Nero, I don't think you should take 'The weakest link' to mean reaching. That's like saying that the slowest runner in the 100m sprint in the olympics is a bad runner. No, I said what I said there to mean that compared to the others, the amount of conclusions I can draw are a lot larger than with any of the other three.
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This may have been better written had I kept it within the quote and coloured it, but I'm just a bit tired.
I'll do another ISO of both Scotty and Nero at some point, but I've got an exam to study for tomorrow that I really need to focus on. Even so, what I have right now is most definitely 'complete'
id say I'd look forward to your next iso, but I'm not. Because I'm nervous you're going to miss more of my posts. And on the scope of this game, there's really not that much
'AyyyyyyySloonei wrote:I'm probably starting to feel better about lynching Quin than sig again.
I haven't seen anything from SVS yet that reads scummy, Epi's response to my questions has satisfied me for now, and I won't be voting ika because I think it's mean. 
