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Matt so I guess since you are touting SVS' innocence, you've indirectly answered my question that you don't suspect SVS.Matt wrote:Lol. I see the irony btw of me sticking up for SVS against very new and recent accusations that I should give her time to answer herself.
-1 to Matt
I'd like to keep the discussion going on more than her, because I'm not sold she is responsible.Matt wrote:Does anyone else want to give SVS the benefit of the doubt here? I mean, you don't think she'd be a little more subtle about outright killing a civilian?
Rico and GMan both have more posts than 8 players currently alive in this gameQuin wrote:spooky quin ghost checking in to mention that this is the first time he thinks he's actually been the top poster at any point
I don't think we should rule out that SVS might have been a patsy, and was just made to vote? The thing going against her is that she did it super fast, and made sure she was the first to vote Quin.DrumBeats wrote:WHOA WHOA WTF.
What I gather from this:
One of Eloh/Leetic was the Maf kill; my bet is on Eloh because Leetic wouldve been an easy mislynch. Leetic was likely the work of Andy the vigilante, who now cannot take over Michaels power as manager.
SVS voted Quin and insta-locked it. SVS had to have had info that Quin was Holly as well as access to a lynch ender through another corporate role, hence it locking.
Idk am I tunnel-visioning this by assuming SVS is confirmed mafia now? I can't think of any other explanation for how shit just went down.
I swear to godMatt wrote:Lol oh brother, I just gave Quin a +1 too.
Still let's get Scotty first.
Dom wrote:I'm also looking for 2 replacements if anyone knows of people looking to get in
That's what she said.I'll replace in if you can't find anyoneDom wrote:I'm also looking for 2 replacements if anyone knows of people looking to get in
Also, you didn't answer my question RE: SVSMatt wrote:I'm not really sure who I suspect. I've been pretty busy this week.Scotty wrote:Hey Matt, question for you: you still suspect FS and I for our "defending" of SVS on Day 0. Does that mean you suspect SVS? You never answered this when I asked you like Night 1.
And do you have any other suspicions besides us?
I'm starting to like you a bit more, but I wonder if that's only because I know you're genuinely frustrated with being linked to me as a baddie partner. Tho that part is genuine, you could still be bad.
Matt wrote:I'm not really sure who I suspect. I've been pretty busy this week.Scotty wrote:Hey Matt, question for you: you still suspect FS and I for our "defending" of SVS on Day 0. Does that mean you suspect SVS? You never answered this when I asked you like Night 1.
And do you have any other suspicions besides us?
I'm starting to like you a bit more, but I wonder if that's only because I know you're genuinely frustrated with being linked to me as a baddie partner. Tho that part is genuine, you could still be bad.
I actually see this side of the coin where I totally missed it before. Pretty much everything I liked about BWT was that he was parroting my thoughts instead of contributing new ones. I saw him as civ for that but I can also see why he would garner suspicion.DrumBeats wrote:That I was, but I wasn't a fan of the leetic votes and 3J made a very solid case on BWT in my opinion. BWT's opinions seemed to be entirely based on what the crowd was already pushing, and came off scummy. Me not being around to try to constantly push votes made it clear that my primary choices weren't going to build up enough steam to happen, considering I had been pushing them for most of the day phase without any votes piling onto it. If mine couldn't go through I was at least going to vote someone I could say with relative confidence is scum rather than the gamble that was leetic. Turns out though I was wrong.Scotty wrote:Weren't yo just voting for LoRab, who placed the first vote on Bwt?DrumBeats wrote:Pretty convincing case, and while I'd still really like to push one of the three I mentioned, since I'm not going to be around at EoD, I doubt any of mine will pick up steam, so I'll switch my vote over.
I don't always see mine pickin up steam all the timeX either but that doesn't mean I'm gonna vote ther on what I believe in.
I feel like I've agree with what bwt has espewed so far- which tells me either he's dog and I shouldn't trust him or he is someone j currently jive with
Oh here we go again.Matt wrote:RIP Bwt
Lol, when town mislynches Bwt early for the umpteenth time, I suddenly feel a bit better about my play.
Let's go after Scotty next day phase.
Matt, don't you post anything, even if it was nothing?Matt wrote:Well I was gonna bring this up the other day, but it really means nothing haha.
I noticed, tho, that in 2 of Scotty's first 5 posts, he really does nothing but reference other games. And I dunno why he'd do that unless he was nervous and didn't know what to post.
Second post
Fifth postScotty wrote:Oh man, a completely closed setup, and no player list to boot? Waiting for some random dog named after the Moon to start voting in the poll.
You think there's anything there or he was just happy the game started and wanted to post anything, even if it was nothing?Scotty wrote:Just in case:
Resurrection Ship
You never know!
DerpMatt wrote:Oh there definitely is, I've already posted about it a few times. That was just an added bonus.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't think that's particularly important, no. If you suspect Scotty and desire to lynch him on Day 3, I have to imagine there's something more substantial than this that drives you.Matt wrote:You think there's anything there or he was just happy the game started and wanted to post anything, even if it was nothing?
@DB - Lol @ "semantics". Using the phrase "Matt said he'd likely vote Goldy" to support your argument against me is very different than what I had actually done, which was just think about voting him based on an off the wall theory I had.
To answer your questions...
1) Again it was just a thought. At the time, others were looking at Scotty's way so I thought it might be a neat preemptive move to vote for a teamie while you're getting sussed, in case you get lynched later.
2) I don't necessarily suss FS over Scotty. I keep going back and forth on those two. Like today, I'd like to invest in a Scotty lynch.
Anyway, I didn't try to discredit your argument, I did discredit it based on your false information. Blah.
Linki - I guess I'd respond with "Please don't mislynch another townie, instead let's go with one of my susses?" Derp
I made this point before but Matt hasn't done a great job of answering it.DrumBeats wrote:Saying you might vote for him and me remembering it as likely is not at all very different. Replace very with slightly or a bit and you've got it right. Using one word, which honestly had little relevance to the point of it that you considering voting Goldy instead of Scotty based upon your Scotty suspicion, to discredit the whole argument is 100% semantics.
Matt and Scotty are scumpartners
NO UMatt wrote:K but let's lynch Scotty first so when I flip civ, you don't get to say "Oh well guess not, Scotty must be good to go"
StuffJaggedJimmyJay wrote:This tells me nothing, Scotty. What do you agree with in his content, and which is it -- should you trust him or not?Scotty wrote:I feel like I've agree with what bwt has espewed so far- which tells me either he's dog and I shouldn't trust him or he is someone j currently jive with
Voting for leetic just for the sake of a coubterwqgon eh? Ballzy move thereX cottonJaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think there's a better than average chance he's bad. I feel the same way about BWT. I prefer a lynch of the latter. Even more than that I prefer a pressure cooker EOD where information may be generated. Enjoy the close tally.S~V~S wrote:Do you think he is bad?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I moved my vote to leetic. I like having two distinct lead wagons proceeding toward EOD.
EyyyyyJaggedJimmyJay wrote:I moved my vote to leetic. I like having two distinct lead wagons proceeding toward EOD.
Weren't yo just voting for LoRab, who placed the first vote on Bwt?DrumBeats wrote:Pretty convincing case, and while I'd still really like to push one of the three I mentioned, since I'm not going to be around at EoD, I doubt any of mine will pick up steam, so I'll switch my vote over.
Serge wrote:I am town aligned
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I didn't say that. I said playing with a very low degree of effort is often a civilian trait rather than a baddie trait. I didn't say anything about his vote until you brought it up in response to that prior assertion.Scotty wrote:JJJ I'm just curious, because you brought this up before: you said that leetic' behavior of placing a vote without talking about it is inherently a civ thing to do. What evidence do you have behind that?
In nearly every Mafia game I've ever played, there is at least one (usually a lot more than one) town player who does absolutely nothing to help the town cause. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is. So when I see a player who has not applied him or herself whatsoever to the game, I am not going to be automatically inclined to suspect that player. Indeed, I might just roll my eyes and ignore the slot for the time being, because I greatly prefer to operate in an informed realm instead of totally guessing.
Unmentioned votes are not something I have seen as much, because they're impossible on every site I've ever played at except The Syndicate (where the poll makes it possible). Unexplained votes I have seen constantly everywhere I've been, both from townies and from baddies.
i was using leetic as an example of what I mean, as you were. You admit that what leetic is doing is a behavior exhibited by both Mafia and civilians alike. And that there is usually a handful of players that are not helpful as town but are still town. While I agree with this assessment, as INH has pointed out he is playing differently than his own meta exhibited as MVp in AoT Mafia. Chock it up to lack of available time to commit to the game and I can understand. But not explaining votes I will always find suspicious. Especially when they are given ample time to come back and explain it, and proceed to not. I roll my eyes at this kind of behavior too, but it doesn't mean it should be swept under the rug for another Christmas.
Based on what I have seen, without laying out all of the data in front of me and thoroughly assessing it, I would say most baddies trend below the mean in post count and in total content. However, they don't trend at the bottom. I'd say the typical zone of contribution where I most frequently find baddies on The Syndicate is in the 3rd quadrant. I'll draw it on a line for the sake of clarity.Scotty wrote:I'm also curious- I respect you as a player because you always pack a mouthful of glorious opinions to your posts, so I'm wondering your opinion: would you say more Mafia members are bound to be more talkative or less talkative on this site? I know there are exceptions in both cases (MP as Mafia and Bubbles as civ come to mind) but on however many games you've played, what is the case?
This is a very general and vague perspective, and it always depends on each individual player. Certain people when bad will have a lot more posts than others. I definitely don't think all baddies fall into this zone, but it's a "hot spot".
thanks for sharing. I know it's not going to be a catch-all for Mafia typologies. But I suppose I was curious to reaffirm my own suspicions on the matter. The grey matter in the graph is what constitutes the baseline for "average" content? I guess that's purely subjective, and not necessarily a post-count thing?
Ah good call. I wonder how many will miss today's poll? I can't tell right now if Merideth spreading votes out like they seem to be is actually advantageous or not. On the surface it doesn't look it unless Merideth puts 2 votes on who she feels is the most suspicious. Some of those vites might as well be bunt cakes- no one eats them, so they rot away.insertnamehere wrote:Seeing as bea was one of the people who would supposedly be forced to vote, and she posted her approval of my tracking of the inact votes, I think it's safe to assume so. Plus SD and Lorab's fly-by votes for 3J and BWT respectively seem to help that assumption.Scotty wrote:Linki: hey INH can we really be sure that Merideth forced anyone for today's polls?
This is the first time this game you have used "DERP". Before it was "Hrmmm".Matt wrote:Lol. So I had a few windows open, and the following was supposed to be in the previous post...DEEERP...
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RIP Wilgy
RIPifywg Rabbit
Bye Goldy and Bullz...oh Bullz...
Welcome Espers and 3J! Especially 3J, my knight in shining armor!
Sorry town (and Dom) for not voting in the night poll, that's lame, it won't happen again.
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Sometimes the boring lynches are the best ones.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have a feeling this day phase is dragging slowly toward a very boring leetic lynch. If that's to be the lynch, fine okay -- I could see him being bad. But he has six posts, and that leaves us with very little to discuss. So I want to hear a broader scope of suspicions from y'all.
I appreciate the faith. But without voting patterns, you might as well light my hair on fire and call me Carrot Top.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Could be.Scotty wrote:I think what you and Drumbeats perceive as a contradiction is a clash in game solving methodology.
If so, I'd encourage you to have more faith in your ability to make actual reads, because settling for the perceived "safe" lynch of a low-content player is the easiest first step toward a town loss. Day 1 information might be scarce, but it exists -- and I don't think you're incompetent in your ability to make reasonable judgments and vote accordingly.
It's not about which info is 'more "helpful"'. That's not the crux of my argument. Both give information in how I like to solve the game. Instead of voting for exclusively tonal reads on day 1, which IMO I am shit at, I'm gonna go for no-posters if there are any. Because all in all, it's the safer bet that even if I don't catch a baddie, we're not losing a civ that is playing the game. Any civ that is just sitting back idly or non-participating hurts town in the long run anyway, so I don't ever regret voting the way I always do in these games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I am not inspired, sir.Scotty wrote:False. Voting patterns are information. Let's say she is lynched. If she (or you, now) is civ, we have lost a no-show. Never assume a no-show is getting replaced with ease. It was hard enough to fill the game. Thankfully you filled in for her, but she may have just been sitting in limbo, not helping civs at all. If she is civ, we can look at the ease at which people vote her, the votes people didn't case for her that look better when she flips. If she is mafia, then a) bingo and b) voting patterns once again. Were there any efforts to save her?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Another valid point. If the premise is that a lynch flip will yield information to help progress reads into Day 2, then to lynch a lurker would seem the least productive option. There's nearly no information to be drawn from such a flip.Quin wrote:He's pointing the finger at people answering for Matt and he votes for Goldy based on inactivity. He voted an inactive in Turf Wars if I recall, so I don't see a problem in that, however his reasoning bugs me a little. If he's voting for the sake of having things make sense after Goldy flips, wouldn't he vote for someone that would result in making the most sense if they were lynched?
I dunno man. There's lots of info for me to pick apart. Instead we lynched our tracker, who had stuff to say.
1. "Player X is not being helpful" is not an adequate reason to lynch someone in any day phase unless that unhelpfulness is perceived to be a deliberate baddie tactic -- any civilian is helpful by default because they provide a numbers advantage that cannot be discarded frivolously.
2. The information you've attached to this lynch is the information that can be attached to any lynch. It's the bare minimum possible information. I said that there could be nearly no information gleaned from a lurker lynch, not none at all. If information is what you seek, then the vote you placed is among the very least productive on the table. This is indeed a contradiction, and when "information" is cited as a reason to lynch a player with no posts at all, I view that dubiously.
I know you've already corrected this, but I will repeat it now so it doesn't infect the minds of readers -- replacements are easily confused. I replaced Bullzeye, not Goldy.
I wouldn't have seen that as a civ tell. Placing the initial vote on the person that ultimately got lynched, with no reasoning at all? He had ample time to defend his vote, and came back by bemoaning Elo's lack of gaming. Putting no effort into the game doesn't help the civs. It's like giving your checkbook to a child and counting on him to balance it for you.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:leetic has put no effort into this at all, which is often a town-tell rather than a baddie tell. Evildoers tend to be at least engaged enough to pretend to care. There have been exceptions though. The only leetic post that bugs me at all is his most recent:
It's hypocritical.leetic wrote:Why are you posting such fluffy, non-game-related stuff this late in? Surely you have something else to talk about?Elohcin wrote:I am going to go with Customer Service tonight.
I would rather you didn'tDrumBeats wrote:Current vote is on INH, but I would be down for a Scotty, leetic, or Quin vote as well. My suspicion of Matt hinges upon my suspicion of Scotty being accurate so I would rather hit Scotty first.
But Matt wasn't pushing you over me. He voted me. Why does that make me bad?fingersplints wrote:I think most often silencing is a night action, and the person is silenced the following day only. Most frequently, imo, but not always. So that's why it seems weird to me for you to be saying someone is silenced hours into the start of a day. That combined with Matt pushing me over you look bad for you. I'm not one to say someone is definitely bad based on someone else until I am sure of that person. I don't regularly like to vote a silenced person unless I feel strong about it. I like to give people a chance to defend when possible. I have seen others say this too. And I have also seen baddies manipulate this by silencing one of their own in trouble. (Either real or pretend silenced)Scotty wrote:That doesn't really answer my question. why do you think we're teammates?Epignosis wrote:My favorite one, since someone asked for more politics.Scotty wrote:hi JJJ and espers! Your predecessors were more silent than the 30th president of the USA. Thanks for being vocal!
Scotty wrote:You never answered my post about why you would vote me over splints when Matt asked you. Can you pls?Epignosis wrote:Matt is my number one suspect. He named two suspects but clung to fingersplints. I say he and Scotty are teammates.
I will say that when we were Mafia together on Lost-again, Matt went bananas trying to get our own teammate, Bullz, lynched day 1. But that is not the case with me and him, I can assure you. I think Matt is just bad and that's it.
eyyyyy I'm glad we both are contemplating that Matt is bad.fingersplints wrote:If Matt is bad I think this also looks bad for Scotty:
It's really early in the day to be calling someone out for being silenced? It could be he knows he is silenced and trying to draw attention to it.Scotty wrote:
@Matt Are you silenced? Where have you been?
Why is it too early to be calling someone out for not posting? How are we to know the terms of silencing? He hasn't posted since before the day 1 lynch, where he threw a vote on me and slid down hi escape slide.. That's a long time. So as a courtesy I want to know if he's silenced before I place a vote down on him without a proper defense.
Would you currently vote for Matt, since you seem to be contemplating it and aren't so concerned with his silencing?
@Dom is it possible to get that lovely Post History chart JJJ made stickied in the first page por favor?
So yes I am considering Matt. I am considering you. But I'll keep my vote where it is right now.
Jim – A Prankster, Jim can insanify one person per day with a curse of his choosing.indiglo wrote:So, there is someone with the power to control other people's votes in the game. (I'm looking at Quin and SD as forced voters.) And there is someone who can force people to only ask questions. I suppose little by little we will continue to see more obvious powers at play. (And I wouldn't usually word things exactly that way, but... Pam, just in case, ya know?)
I think extended, long-winded conversations about Pam's power is spinning our wheels, but I do think a bit of conversation of how civs should use their powers is a good idea. It may not work until a little later in the game though, once we have established a nice, solid(ish) civ core.
I don't know for sure who I'll vote for today. I'm hoping there will be enough activity to glean from.
That doesn't really answer my question. why do you think we're teammates?Epignosis wrote:My favorite one, since someone asked for more politics.Scotty wrote:hi JJJ and espers! Your predecessors were more silent than the 30th president of the USA. Thanks for being vocal!
Scotty wrote:You never answered my post about why you would vote me over splints when Matt asked you. Can you pls?Epignosis wrote:Matt is my number one suspect. He named two suspects but clung to fingersplints. I say he and Scotty are teammates.
eyyyyy I'm glad we both are contemplating that Matt is bad.fingersplints wrote:If Matt is bad I think this also looks bad for Scotty:
It's really early in the day to be calling someone out for being silenced? It could be he knows he is silenced and trying to draw attention to it.Scotty wrote:
@Matt Are you silenced? Where have you been?
oops im sorry, I thought JJJ replaced Goldy!espers wrote:Goldy was the person I replaced. Others have mentioned it recently, I'd also like to see it clarified. How would my role being flipped make suspicions "make more sense"?Scotty wrote:Sorry all I'm doing construction (of all things lol) all day today and zipping over on a date to see Independence Day right after. So I'm not gonna be around much at all leading up to EoD
I've skimmed the past few pages and only have a few things to say:
-Where is Matt? People have been answering for him, which he has expressly said he doesn't like other people doing for other people.
-Wilgy, don't you think that acting the same way as your bad self in another game could be perceived as alignment indicative? Like, just a little? This is like bubble gum bursting in your face, looking in the mirror and going, "I'm still beautiful", tossing back that lock of hair back and saying 'screw the haters!' In other words, this could just be Wilgy being Wilgy. Or it could be Wilgy misspeaking himself into a corner.
-Goldy has yet to check in, and honestly that is where my vote is going right now. Day 1's gonna Day 1, and I think suspicions will make more sense when we see a flip.
vote Goldy
I hope to check back in before EoD, but can't promise it
writing off Matt because he doesn't No U is a point, but I don't know why you'd drop it completely. Matt's gonna Matt, but at what point is he just acting the part?Quin wrote:Primarily, he acknowledged my vote on Day 1 but didn't try to discredit it or go to lengths to paint me as bad for it. To a much lesser extent, I can understand that he just wanted to get things moving because at the time there wasn't much of anything going on. I don't want to fault him for that.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:What about Matt's posts or the game in general makes you feel less inclined to go after Matt?Quin wrote:I don't even know. I was pinged by Matt because I agreed with the principle behind what INH said in that faking reads is counter-productive, but I don't scum read him after taking everything else into account right now. BWT doesn't look all that great given his vote for me, though. I feel as though my vote might go there tomorrow.
You never answered my post about why you would vote me over splints when Matt asked you. Can you pls?Epignosis wrote:1. You subbed in.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey gang. I'm TiredJimmyJay, so please bear with me if I catch up at a leisurely pace.
Anyone who cares: what are the three most important things I should know about this game so far?
2. indiglo sucks for her hatred of pistachio ice cream
3. If I had to vote right now it would be for leetic or Matt (
We're also in agreement on leetic.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I'm...confused by the first part. Not sure how else to explain it.Quin wrote:Specifying the night phase would, I think, infer more than just a dead townie. Dom gave the okay because it didn't break the info dumping rule.
As for the second, it didn't break the info dumping role...and your role would be one the town would miss...
I'm down to 3 possibilities in terms of your roles' ability/abilities. And 2 of them are not good for the civs.
Quin wrote:Here's some stuff from Scotty that should be addressed.
Spoiler: showIt looks like he's inferring some degree of suspicion on Matt, but you can see he claims he didn't intend to in the next post. I get the vibe that Scotty really was suspicious of Matt here, but I don't think that's any more indicative of him being bad than it is him just trying to avoid being the Day 1 lynchee. He did develop a suspicion of Matt later on, however.Spoiler: show
As I said previously, I'm not one to outright vote someone for being suspicious on day 1. Mostly because my reads are crap based on primarily tonal context. I'm amazed at you people that can identify mafia just from the get-go. I get pings all the time, but I'm too chickenshit to pull the trigger in case it's just a civ prodding. What looks bad to me- and you can call it a NO U I guess- is his disregard of the lynch leaders of Wilgy and Quin/INH to vote for me, a vote that even he said "is probably wrong lol". That's a more informed and capable suspicion, knowing that Wilgy was civ.
He's pointing the finger at people answering for Matt and he votes for Goldy based on inactivity. He voted an inactive in Turf Wars if I recall, so I don't see a problem in that, however his reasoning bugs me a little. If he's voting for the sake of having things make sense after Goldy flips, wouldn't he vote for someone that would result in making the most sense if they were lynched?Spoiler: show
My reasoning is well noted on this site and I even explained it- again- later on. I'd rather risk mislynching a no-show than a talkative civ day 1. That's the gist. Take it or leave it.
Spoiler: showI thought I'd just make a note here that he was adamant but realistic in his interrogation of the claim I made earlier and I think that reflects well on him.Spoiler: show
False. Voting patterns are information. Let's say she is lynched. If she (or you, now) is civ, we have lost a no-show. Never assume a no-show is getting replaced with ease. It was hard enough to fill the game. Thankfully you filled in for her, but she may have just been sitting in limbo, not helping civs at all. If she is civ, we can look at the ease at which people vote her, the votes people didn't case for her that look better when she flips. If she is mafia, then a) bingo and b) voting patterns once again. Were there any efforts to save her?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Another valid point. If the premise is that a lynch flip will yield information to help progress reads into Day 2, then to lynch a lurker would seem the least productive option. There's nearly no information to be drawn from such a flip.Quin wrote:He's pointing the finger at people answering for Matt and he votes for Goldy based on inactivity. He voted an inactive in Turf Wars if I recall, so I don't see a problem in that, however his reasoning bugs me a little. If he's voting for the sake of having things make sense after Goldy flips, wouldn't he vote for someone that would result in making the most sense if they were lynched?
DrumBeats wrote: Scotty - The day one vote on Goldy is still contradictory to everything he said.
@ Scotty - When you get here, I want your analysis on the Wilgy votes por favor
Please point to what is contradictory and how I have not explained it to well enough to you.If Goldy were ultimately voted out, we could have made sense of that- When people voted, how people voted, why people didn't vote for her- it's all information. Wilgy was ultimately lynched so now we get to make sense of that.DrumBeats wrote:@ Scotty - The thing is that you directly said that we would get to make more sense of things after the flip and then voted a player with 0 interactions to make sense of post flip. What were we supposed to learn from Goldys flip other than Goldys alignment?
@ Quin - Why do you think INH defended you so hard last phase?
@ Matt - What do you think about INH's defense of Quin last phase?
Here kitty kitty kitty:leetic wrote:Why are you posting such fluffy, non-game-related stuff this late in? Surely you have something else to talk about?Elohcin wrote:I am going to go with Customer Service tonight.
Scotty wrote: Can someone explain to me why leetic voted Wilgy early in the day without saying why and vanishing into mist? That pings me really hard. He has 5 posts, all saying nothing of worth.
That's as clear as mud. If it weren't in our best interests to lynch you because the town needs you, and it's not info dumping...how...can you be town aligned?Quin wrote:Specifying the night phase would, I think, infer more than just a dead townie. Dom gave the okay because it didn't break the info dumping rule.
Yowza. Well that means Meredith is boozing up 2 people tomorrow out of:Dom wrote:Are we really only going to have 13 votes in?
Someone mentioned it, but if you thought I was bad, why even bring up voting Goldy as an option? This makes about as much sense as putting motor oil in your smoothie because the voices inside your head said it would make you drive better.Matt wrote:I'm wondering if I should vote for Goldy out of left field.
I do think Scotty's bad and if I think he's bad, then I think it's possible he would vote for his own no show teammate just cuz he knows nobody would follow him (I base this on other games where Scotty votes for a low poster Day 1 and they never get lynched).
Hrm.
Anyway, have to go for a bit but I'll be back by deadline.
Quin wrote:Anyway, I'm switching my vote to Wilgy, for self preservation purposes.
You don't want to lynch me, because alignment aside, if I am lynched, the mafia will be given a significant advantage over the town in the next night phase.
#supatown
#plznokill
#trumpcard
#savemepam and Erin
#iwarnedyou
#skinnedsalmon
#toomanyhashtags
I have to go to a birthday thing now. I apologise in advance if you lynch me.
Wait what does this even mean? Are you just saying "lalala I'm a townie so townies will be down a townie next cycle which will give an advantage to mafia"? Because that's a pretty convoluted way to go about explaining that. And if Dom says it was ok to say it...uh...doesn't that mean you're not on the townie side?Quin wrote:Dom has given the okay for that statement. No rules are broken in saying it!S~V~S wrote:Are you role claiming?
I did (and still do) suspect you. But not enough to vote for you Day 1.Matt wrote:I still don't understand what this means from your pov or why it was said. Later on, you go on to "correct" someone who accused you of sussing me, and yet this post shows you sussing me...I think. Again I'm not sure what the point was to this post.Scotty wrote:+10 points to Gryffindor!
Matt, you're the only one throwing around suspicions, and we're not even into Day 1 yet
Hrm.
Linki - Lol SVS I was actually thinking the same thing when he gave those three example detect sentences...like wut?
My heart says vote FS, my brain says Scotty. Both of them are probably wrong LOL
I think so- from the Disney Chaos game, probably?Zeus wrote:OMG! Dr.Wiggly.... I know you!
Is that the same Scotty I played with before on Mafia Universe?
SIGURD! COME! Give me some reads.. Help me out.
Why is this? Where did this come from?Epignosis wrote:Scotty.Matt wrote:
Epi - If you were forced to vote for Scotty or FS who would you vote for?
Sorry I didn't answer this before the vote.Matt wrote:Scotty I'm surprised you didn't vote for me tbh. Do you think others should?
andDrumBeats wrote:If you think suspicions will make more sense when we see a flip, why vote for someone with zero interactions with other players to make sense of?Scotty wrote:Sorry all I'm doing construction (of all things lol) all day today and zipping over on a date to see Independence Day right after. So I'm not gonna be around much at all leading up to EoD
I've skimmed the past few pages and only have a few things to say:
-Where is Matt? People have been answering for him, which he has expressly said he doesn't like other people doing for other people.
-Wilgy, don't you think that acting the same way as your bad self in another game could be perceived as alignment indicative? Like, just a little? This is like bubble gum bursting in your face, looking in the mirror and going, "I'm still beautiful", tossing back that lock of hair back and saying 'screw the haters!' In other words, this could just be Wilgy being Wilgy. Or it could be Wilgy misspeaking himself into a corner.
-Goldy has yet to check in, and honestly that is where my vote is going right now. Day 1's gonna Day 1, and I think suspicions will make more sense when we see a flip.
vote Goldy
I hope to check back in before EoD, but can't promise it
andMatt wrote: I was looking forward to coming in here and putting a vote on Splints but Scotty's post where he eggs me on about Wilgy defending me and then goes on to vote Goldy after sussing me for several days...hrm. I think that's weird and I don't like it.
Ok. look. I feel like a broken record ad infinitum every game I play, but:Elohcin wrote: @ Scotty - I am not sure about your vote for Goldy. I understand its a no show issue, but if she is on the civ side, then don't we want to keep her, active or not. The role she owns has the possibility of being replaced which could give us help in the future. Voting for a no-show on day one seems like an excuse a baddie would make for voting someone.
Nah, I think that's just flavor text. She keeps inventory of the office as secretary.Quin wrote:Also, is it just me or does Pam's role infer that there are items in this game?
At least you're acknowledging that Pam probably won't check it, but it's like saying that UK leaving the EU would be catastrophic for the world economy, but just in case they should leave. haha! Morbid topical humor for yaQuin wrote:I didn't notice that three roles were added. I even looked. Whoops.
I don't think 'I am town aligned' is something Pam will be able to check, but hey, in the off chance;
I am town aligned.
Umm sorry to burst your bubble there, but:DrumBeats wrote:Those three roles actually clued us in on a lot. We know our lovely Pam is a lie detector. Hell, we can make her job a ton easier right now.Scotty wrote:Actually, Dom did ultimately update the front page. We now have 3 new roles revealed. And that's it.Quin wrote:this sounds reasonable tbh. if we take stock in the 'which folder should we open first' scenario from before we might open them all by Day 3. But the personnel thing didn't reveal anything so we could just be overthinking it and i could really have just been a check-in poll.insertnamehere wrote:maybe these polls are going to be a nightly thing, and we'll uncover the roles/mechanics of this game bit by bit?
I agree with inh that we probably will reveal the game mechanics bit by bit through night polls. Looks like these roles were randomized from the list of employees...
...or maybe it revealed 3 people that voted Personnel? That happen to not be managers (like Michael/Dwight)?
I have no idea what Management would mean. Maybe it reveals the mafia member's roles?
Axe, in this case, means vote out.Zeus wrote:Oh! You gotta vote on the poll to give someone your vote. Axe means against right? Gotta get with the flow and start reading these pages for the love of god!
I am town aligned.
Feel free to check that if you wish Pam. I advise that everyone post the same thing in order to allow Pam to work as a cop check if she cannot find a better use for her role each night.
While it is definitely possible that management would show us the mafia, wouldn't it be more likely that it would show us aforementioned managers? (Michael, Dwight, Jim, Andy, etc.) It's definitely worth checking out next night if it is still there, because that category does seem somewhat likely to contain Corporate, but I would bet it would contain the managers instead. Or it is a completely different thing and we're all just overthinking.
This is an exercise in futility. I'm actually surprised that you, Quin and INH have missed that part of the role.Pam – As office administrator, Pam has an inventory of everything in the office. She notices when things are awry. Lie Detector Role. You cannot lie detect statements such as “I am not bad” etc.
Actually, Dom did ultimately update the front page. We now have 3 new roles revealed. And that's it.Quin wrote:this sounds reasonable tbh. if we take stock in the 'which folder should we open first' scenario from before we might open them all by Day 3. But the personnel thing didn't reveal anything so we could just be overthinking it and i could really have just been a check-in poll.insertnamehere wrote:maybe these polls are going to be a nightly thing, and we'll uncover the roles/mechanics of this game bit by bit?
Axe, in this case, means vote out.Zeus wrote:Oh! You gotta vote on the poll to give someone your vote. Axe means against right? Gotta get with the flow and start reading these pages for the love of god!
So...that told us nothing?Dom wrote:Episode Zero EndMichael opened up the Personnel Folder-- "Read up folks"
"There's no budget cuts-- no no, none at all!"
Who should we cut?
You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
K.Epignosis wrote:Matt is my number one suspect. He named two suspects but clung to fingersplints. I say he and Scotty are teammates.
