There’s not really a button per se- there is a {vote} box in the reply menu that will put the code around your player. But I just do the code manually on phone.
It’s a bit archaic in comparison to the format of MU, I must admit.
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There’s not really a button per se- there is a {vote} box in the reply menu that will put the code around your player. But I just do the code manually on phone.
Well im certainly not reading him off of flips.LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:09 pmSo it's mostly a tonal read, I see.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:01 pmIt’s not a substantive read because, well, he hasn’t really done much. But at the time in my drunken state, I liked his vibe. He’s like the dude that showed up with a box of 2 day old pizza and let me have itLanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:52 pm Ah, I guess I understand what you mean to express with the above.
Considering that you have a Seanzie read that clearly differs from mine, can you elaborate a bit more than what you did earlier in the phase? To me Seanzie feels like wolf or misyeet bait (so far) and thus like a player who, if sorted correctly, could make or break the game in the long run.
I guess we need to wait what happens to see whether your drunken read holds merit.
I only remember that game to base it off of, but there is a certain level of hesitance and a lack of spam posting. Not as many juicebox anime gifs, or shruggy filler posts.
It’s not a substantive read because, well, he hasn’t really done much. But at the time in my drunken state, I liked his vibe. He’s like the dude that showed up with a box of 2 day old pizza and let me have itLanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:52 pmAh, I guess I understand what you mean to express with the above.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:47 pmIma make up a new category for you.LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Okay, managed to catch up properly. Thoughts so far:
Townreads: Chelsea, Scotty
Both had strong openings, don't shy away from making waves and throwing out reads early, both feel inquisitive and mindful
Slight townleans: Abigail, Michelle
Abigail had some volume that I consider "empty" but also one banger reads list. I kinda agree that wolves don't seem to have a lot of thread presence yet since I townread all the players who made waves so far.
Michelle feels towny in tone and approach as well but it has been ages since I had meaningful games with Michelle so I am not quite up to date on how to read her.
Neutral: Lime, Creature
Lime had the slight issue in my eyes that I felt like he was mostly going for the "everyone is happiness" approach, a strategy I like to do in uninspired wolf games that can come from TMI and a lack of easy pushes. I disliked the "forcing townreads" stuff. I don't have any direct issue with a single post though, so... we'll see where this goes.
Creature has a NAI Creature opening so far but as per usual I will roast you over the fiery pit if I don't get to see at least SOME reads and gameplay-related posts before the end of the phase - THIS is usually what makes Creature obvious, whether his whining gets backed up by an attempt of participation - or not.
Worrisome: Manny, seanzie, Dunnstral
Manny feels less energetic than I'd thought I'd see him play in a game with several of the people he himself recruited. I do have a potential explanation on why he'd play the way he does (at least if this could be compared to MU games) but... I honestly hoped to find Manny early D1 and just chill, which is not the case.
Dunnstral has had a lot of posts but nothing so far managed to stick with me. If someone else knows how to read Dunn I'm all ears, but from experience this is something that's either wolf indicative - or a clash of playstyle/personal tiredness.
seanzie had a lot of nothing paired with a long period of absence, and as I said earlier it's the one take from Scotty that I disagree with, so far.
Rest of the crowd didn't leave an impression enough to be on this list yet.
Also Epi is here, but he’s not *here*, if ya get me. Reminds me of the terse interactions in Cosmere mafia in which he was bad. Could vote there.
Current read list:
Townread:
Seanzie
Princess Abbi
TSP
Townlean:
Dunnstral
Michelle
Lime Coke
Scum lean:
Chelsea
Manny
jack
Scumread:
Creature
Epi
Either towncore or third party, no in between (and no explanation):
LanMisa
Considering that you have a Seanzie read that clearly differs from mine, can you elaborate a bit more than what you did earlier in the phase? To me Seanzie feels like wolf or misyeet bait (so far) and thus like a player who, if sorted correctly, could make or break the game in the long run.
Oops, I misspoke, I meant to say Nothing he has done this game is how I imagine his TOWN game looksMichelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:51 pmThese 2 sentences are a logical fallacy togetherScotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:42 pmWhy shouldn’t I shade creature? Nothing he has done this game is how I imagine his wolf game looks. Giving him a pass is bizarroMichelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:04 pmFor the slight shade at Creature and the mech post with 3 wolves.
If he didn't post like a wolf, why is my pass so weird?
How would you characterize your wolf game, or else, how would others characterize it, assuming you try to act like a town as wolf
Here’s one for you, one that I think about from time to time: (neon)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 pm I wanna townread Abi for having like 60 posts before I showed up and also mindmelding with me/Scotty on actually reading Seanzie town for his something bomething posts.
The only reason I'm not is like....what does scum Abi even look like?
I don’t think I’ve ever played with you, so it’s a bit disingenuous for me to be voting you at all here. But there’s something about your presence that feels reactive instead of proactive. If that makes sense
Not really, no. Just as much as I can’t explain how ETFs work or where the trash goes after it put it on the curbMichelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:30 pmCan you explain your read on Tony (1)?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:24 pmAgreed. Because I share this viewpoint I will light townread you. It shows Chelsea hasn’t really read the thread before making a blanket statement/read.Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 amLots of incorrect assumptions in this post.Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?
I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
Also light scum read Chelsea.
Current list:
Townread:
Seanzie
Princess Abbi
TSP
Townlean:
Dunnstral
Scum lean:
Lime Coke
Chelsea
Creature
Scumread:
Michelle
And your scum read on me.
And Chelsea and Brad.
And whatever you want to add.
I mean, I’ve said as much. My conclusion was that it wasn’t helpful without a few flips. Also I was drunk posting and didn’t have a filter. I love mech and mech talk, so I can’t help it lolChelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:13 pmTalk about mech in and of itself is fine when it's relevant not the first few posts of the game where it helps nothing and is just empty noise in a thread. It's less the fact it's mech and more the fact it's easy, but that's an entirely different conversation not needed for this thread.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:10 pmHe’s said that wasn’t the reason that he townread me- it was my aggressivenessChelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?
I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
Which is blatantly wrong because I’m plenty aggressive as wolf too. But that’s fine.
Also, I’ve already expressed that me mentioning mech is bound to be poo-poo’d and here we are
It’s not even lack of posting. If I recall, he just didn’t like rolling wolf and it is reflected in his attitude/posting style.Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:09 pm How old is this meta? I know Creature has gone through some sort of meta shift that doesn't make his meta= "Is Creature posting more than 10 posts? Town"
Like, they've won wolf games before. I know this is probably a bit ironic considering I have Creature in my townreads but still.
Jack is all but claiming 3p here lololJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:07 pmLately? Town. I haven't been putting as much effort into mafia in general in the last year or two and that makes it a lot harder for me to avoid yeet as a wolf whereas townJack can just do a burst of solving and either find a wolf, get out of dodge or both. Being super active for say 4 hours and gone for the other 20 just hurts me a lot more if I'm wolf aligned.
3P roles are best roles, though.
Ima make up a new category for you.LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Okay, managed to catch up properly. Thoughts so far:
Townreads: Chelsea, Scotty
Both had strong openings, don't shy away from making waves and throwing out reads early, both feel inquisitive and mindful
Slight townleans: Abigail, Michelle
Abigail had some volume that I consider "empty" but also one banger reads list. I kinda agree that wolves don't seem to have a lot of thread presence yet since I townread all the players who made waves so far.
Michelle feels towny in tone and approach as well but it has been ages since I had meaningful games with Michelle so I am not quite up to date on how to read her.
Neutral: Lime, Creature
Lime had the slight issue in my eyes that I felt like he was mostly going for the "everyone is happiness" approach, a strategy I like to do in uninspired wolf games that can come from TMI and a lack of easy pushes. I disliked the "forcing townreads" stuff. I don't have any direct issue with a single post though, so... we'll see where this goes.
Creature has a NAI Creature opening so far but as per usual I will roast you over the fiery pit if I don't get to see at least SOME reads and gameplay-related posts before the end of the phase - THIS is usually what makes Creature obvious, whether his whining gets backed up by an attempt of participation - or not.
Worrisome: Manny, seanzie, Dunnstral
Manny feels less energetic than I'd thought I'd see him play in a game with several of the people he himself recruited. I do have a potential explanation on why he'd play the way he does (at least if this could be compared to MU games) but... I honestly hoped to find Manny early D1 and just chill, which is not the case.
Dunnstral has had a lot of posts but nothing so far managed to stick with me. If someone else knows how to read Dunn I'm all ears, but from experience this is something that's either wolf indicative - or a clash of playstyle/personal tiredness.
seanzie had a lot of nothing paired with a long period of absence, and as I said earlier it's the one take from Scotty that I disagree with, so far.
Rest of the crowd didn't leave an impression enough to be on this list yet.
Why shouldn’t I shade creature? Nothing he has done this game is how I imagine his wolf game looks. Giving him a pass is bizarroMichelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:04 pmFor the slight shade at Creature and the mech post with 3 wolves.
I’m sold. Too many people are townreading Michelle on vibe posting this early and it’s wigging me out.Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:11 amI believe it is mafia indicative because I believe mafia like to try to get themself into a stable position where they are not a real consideration for the elimination. That is their main goal at the start of the game and it tends to be effective to look "towny" early.Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:06 amWhy is trying to get by on vibe reads mafia indicative?. You arent wrong on me doing that but i dont think is particularly AI.
Brad is a meta read, Scotty was a tone read, i could go look up the posts that made me have those reads but why bother when like u said its similar to the consensus?
You should bother to explain your reads so we know how you reached your conclusions. Your process can be more important than the result. You saying it is consensus anyway is not helpful.
Copycatfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:35 am I AM TOWN!
The strongest of all warriors are these two - time & patience
Do you know how to change a tire?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
Ama.
So long
There is at least 1 mafia between Chelsea/MannyChelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 amI do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?
Surely you didn't want me to roll mafia again.
It’s alarming when you look at creature through the lens of activity and gloomdooming. That’s more of a scum tell.Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:22 am They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.
It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.
It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
Agreed. Because I share this viewpoint I will light townread you. It shows Chelsea hasn’t really read the thread before making a blanket statement/read.Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 amLots of incorrect assumptions in this post.Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?
I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
I will agree that in a vacuum, regardless of Lime Coke’s alignment, his endorsement does make me pretty town unless we’re both exactly wolves. He seems to stake a lot of credence on his godread of me after having only played like 1-2 games with me since we wolfed together 2 years ago.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am See for Scotty I largely wolf read early mech posts in games and in my data they are 70% of the time wolf posts but I think everything around the bread stuff is just so insanely town that I'm willing to lock that in early
Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
Breads insistence that Scotty is town and his read is right against all challenges is just towny imo I'd not be willing to lock that though
Manny feels decidedly disengaged but that's something old me would hard town read however new me is trying to be more patient with what I town lock so I'm gonna say town lean
Chelsea pushing me I hate but only cause this narrative is the same one I get miskilled for constantly by and large I think... assuming Chelsea has no experience with me... that Chelsea is town
What I'm saying is I think the active part of the thread is all town
I reverse my read based on your posts from this page. You are now a townread, with Seanzie and TSP.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:59 amLet me ask you... do you know who I amChelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:47 amWhy must you ask to be carried then ask even more questions when the option presents itself to you? If you don't want to be get up off your butt and find your own vote.
Between all the empty filler posting the stuff that has content and explanation around it feels overly explained and LAMIST for how they've already presented the way they want to play.
If you see a better vote at these current times, I'm all ears.
Also it's bullsh8t to say my posts are filler I'm so sick of this narrative around me
God I wanna be wolf in a game with you so I can just absolutely snow youLime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:36 amI actually didn't read the second sentence idk why.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:32 amOh hi.Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?
I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
Well combine it with the post going after Michelle and you probably saw already I found him being aggressive early to be town indicative of Scotty.
I'm flat out holding it since I believe in my read on Scotty.
Plus literally need something out of this shitty SOD.
He’s said that wasn’t the reason that he townread me- it was my aggressivenessChelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?
I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
oops I didn’t explain why I jumped on you- it wasn’t that you found me underwhelming or wolfy, it was this tidbit on your post:Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:07 am Morning again.
Soo, Scotty decided I deserve a vote because I didn't like his game start, choose to change the vibe by a huge nothinburger meta post, btw a 17er needs 4 wolves imo and an 18er would add a kind of survivor, or jester, something unrelated much with the other 17.
Without flips this has littls value anyway
Brad why did you accept me in your pocket if you don't town read me?
#jumps out![]()
Now I'll search for other comfy pockets...
Also, +1 to Sean because made me smile.
Long Con keeps the top town position.
Brad is ok-ish even if he has empty pockets ^^
If Scotty thinks he knows Brad I have news, we were hydra partners recently so I can make my own attempt to read Brad without Scotty's "help"
Aand Scotty is still underwhelming
The newcomer, welcome to the site! I need more from them.
Anyone else didn't show AI stuff imo.
I believe you.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:22 am I’d really like to max post but I’m working too much these days. I’m town![]()
Oh.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:15 amNo I don't, try again, please.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:12 amYou say much with little wordSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:11 am Whoops!
Why me?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:09 am If it's not clear yet, I don't particularly townread Lime Coke at the moment.
I'm also...not really joking when I think Seanzie is towny.
Long Con, can't tell yet. barely light town. puke green on my rainbow list, with a little yellow chunks thrown in there.
I'm not voting Dunnstral today. No idea on them yet. But even so, not voting for the newcomer to the site.
You say much with little wordSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:11 am Whoops!
Why me?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:09 am If it's not clear yet, I don't particularly townread Lime Coke at the moment.
I'm also...not really joking when I think Seanzie is towny.
Long Con, can't tell yet. barely light town. puke green on my rainbow list, with a little yellow chunks thrown in there.
I'm not voting Dunnstral today. No idea on them yet. But even so, not voting for the newcomer to the site.
Don't listen to him- he's basing this off of old information. I can totally be mafia.
I don't tihnk I'd let you drive my mother in law's motorized scooter, let alone a planeLime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:52 pmAggressiveness.Dunnstral wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:50 pmSo what has clued you in to Scotty being town by post 37?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:44 pmI mean if I fly it totally fine and don't crash it ever then why not?Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:41 pmmy man, thats like saying you know how to fly a plane because you visited the cockpit as a kid
Lacks that as mafia.
holy shit I think you're right.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:44 pmI mean if I fly it totally fine and don't crash it ever then why not?Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:41 pmmy man, thats like saying you know how to fly a plane because you visited the cockpit as a kid
Right, that's why I'm operating under the inference that one of the indies is more of a 'sad-die' than a 'baddie'Dunnstral wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:55 pm4 mafia would be balanced from mafia point of view while 3 mafia seems too little. 6 baddies does not seem balanced for town, though.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:38 pm Ok real talk right quick.
I don’t know how many of you jumnajis have played this game or are familiar wit the source material. I certainly have never played Fallout in any capacity- I just know they have vaults. Is this the one with the large bulbous looking dude with the conical hands that is the guardian of the little girl with the teddy bear?
Anyway, I’m probably not th best person to analyze mech but it’s what I do. It’s what I do.
Mech notes at a glance
18 player game with 3 guaranteed mafia and 2 indies is,..odd. A lot hinges on the secret mambo courier #5. If there’s one definite aggro 3p, it would make sense that there is a more benign one here with this player count. It’s too early to speculate on how many mafia. 3 mafia sounds a slightly town sided, and 4 sounds wolf sided, but that should be easier to speculate if the courier role is revealed in any way.
Town has a guaranteed 1x tracker/1x jailer, and then fuckin more chaff than a bucket of spuds. 12-13/23 is hard to manage, considering 12 of the possible roles are VT. This gurauntees at least someone is VT. Probably 4-5 is my guess. If there’s 4 mafia, we’ve probably got more town PRs to compensate.
Why am I sayin talk this, you may ask? Well, because I’m drunk and sometimes I just talk about shit.
I want to kill the evil 3p. @Mafia, if you wanna team up, I’ll promise not to go after you this game too early if we can find and eliminate the mean arsonist/poisoner/mushroom menace. Sound good?
my man, thats like saying you know how to fly a plane because you visited the cockpit as a kid