The Syndicate

I no longer feel like sleep is a viable option.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:00 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:28 pm Hk ISOing:
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:42 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:31 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:16 pm someone tag me when the mafia game starts
It will never start.

But seriously I've asked several questions.

I'll ask you one. First impressions?
wigly susing me early is weird but not weird enough for me to push.
ur mostly fine, fluffy as fuck and devoid of content but fine. Kate also fine. Dennis is funny and a literal child but also isn't someone I really wanna kill.

Everyone else can die idc really. except sig he's town
This is a sketchy d1 read list. Too many towns that are a tad convenient.
This boils down to "HK has TMI" doesn't it? I'm not sure how you want me to address this (I noticed b/c of the quote notifiication on my power outage that you said shortly after that I hvaen't addressed ytour suspicions). I stand by those reads and at the time they were made the thread volume was very very low and Kate was far and away the most obvs town of the bunch. Dennis I put in there because he was making some humorous posts at the time and didn't feel like they were advancing an agenda. Likewise Sig was playing vastly differently than they were when we were 3p in GOC so finding him as town when we were not town in that game was fairly easy. Everyone else was either low effort posting, or just not contributing a lot to the game state, myself included, at that time. So yeah, convenient townies but also fairly obvs townies. And one thing I've noticed is that when you're town and find townies be loud about it because it makes life harder for wolves. Makes them start to have to thikn about addressing those players at night not during hte day and allows players to start to coalesce (box wolves in).

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:32 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:11 pm [VOTE: wigly] aubergine

ur too excited

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:11 pm I'm gonna vote dennis now for poorly explained reasons like "I don't like his posts" and "his content seems lacking"
I'm gonna protect wigly as long as he posts like he is because it's funny.

[VOTE: dennis] aubergine
This is a progression of someone that hasn’t put too much thought into voting someone off D1, considering he hasn’t mentioned a good chunk of the player base but has already said he’s not gonna push Wilgy and Dennis isn’t someone he wants to kill.

In any case, I don’t think this is a good look for HK
tbh I don't remember why I voted wigly. Voting dennis came about because I found his posts were trending in a weird direction that didn't make sense to me and instead of trying to dig in and lead town with his posting he was fluff posting towards Kate.

Your first paragraph is fair, though the logic of everyone screaming town reads into the stratosphere isn’t always that of a towny mindset.

Hey, what do you think of falcon?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:02 pm @Scotty

What is this in response to? That I’m pushing you in bad faith?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:14 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:05 pm @Scotty I have in my posts and unlike Neon I gave reasons. I am not going into further explanations I am trying to save my townie ass.
you…did?
Ok let me comb through your posts from 78 years ago

Somewhere in the bowels of D2:
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:01 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:54 pm wow bold shows up for dirt on this forum. anyways it's porscha, wigly, sig, lemon, roxy, falcon, finger and of those I'm inclined to think sig and wigly are the most town
This reminds me of another game with Creature who made these sort of posts. I called them out I was mis-elimmed and Creature ended winning with his mafia pals. This post makes me think you are bad also.
Your only mention of HK

Early in D1:
my poe:
…
Dennis bc of your convo with Neon felt forced when questioned you back tracked and gave non response answers. It is like sig said you seem to be trying to find a suspicion with tmi…
Is that it?

dude I literally only have 35 posts it's not like I had a 1000

It’s not an indictment on the *quantity* of posts. It’s the *quality* of them as of late.

You literally just said your opinions have changed over the game RE saying you had Neon town feels, and are getting defensive for mentioning some distant suspicions that you haven’t talked about since the start of the Byzantine Empire was still around

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:14 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:05 pm @Scotty I have in my posts and unlike Neon I gave reasons. I am not going into further explanations I am trying to save my townie ass.
you…did?
Ok let me comb through your posts from 78 years ago

Somewhere in the bowels of D2:
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:01 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:54 pm wow bold shows up for dirt on this forum. anyways it's porscha, wigly, sig, lemon, roxy, falcon, finger and of those I'm inclined to think sig and wigly are the most town
This reminds me of another game with Creature who made these sort of posts. I called them out I was mis-elimmed and Creature ended winning with his mafia pals. This post makes me think you are bad also.
Your only mention of HK

Early in D1:
my poe:
…
Dennis bc of your convo with Neon felt forced when questioned you back tracked and gave non response answers. It is like sig said you seem to be trying to find a suspicion with tmi…
Is that it?
yes this is it why you may ask but I hope not bc I have literally spent every other post defending myself if you read my iso you would know.

Yes I have seen your iso and you have definitely spent a lot of time defending and saying you are town in many different colors and flavors

“sig / Scotty - was unsure about sig all game and only threw him into town based on feels on D 1 bc we have played so many times together. I needed a minute to gauge him correctly. I am now even more unsure than I was.”

So this is an odd one. You have been limping him in with town feels all game, but now you’re unsure with me wearing his shirt and tie?

i don’t know about you, but when I’m suspected, it’s easier for me to find clarity in if someone is pushing me in good faith or not. Do you think I’m pushing you in bad faith? Do you think I’m not being genuine in my solving today?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:51 pm Dennis - idk, but I have a bad feeling you are bad. It just feels like you are trying without any effort.

falcon45ca - usually when we are town together I find I agree with you on most everything you post but alas you are voting me even tho you think I am town. Now I ask is that really townie?

fingersplints - I think you are town but it has come down to one of us and I know I am town without having to think about it. TBF tho I think this proposition from the town about lhf will *always* bite them in the ass. I never want to call you bad in any game bc I enjoy playing with you this ius why I will mostly keep my suspicions to my self inre: You.

hollowkatt - I felt you were bad with the opening post of yours Day 1 but since then (btw you never responded to my suspicion) you have posted things I find myself agreeing with more often than not.

Lemonfairy - no real substance just glossing over things. Thats your style so who am I to tell you how to play? But I do think you are a bad fairy.

Neon - if you do not know by now are we even playing the same game? She thinks I have called her town when I never have. I said townish feels on D 1 we are now D 3 and things have changed bc I thread educate myself every new day.

sig / Scotty - was unsure about sig all game and only threw him into town based on feels on D 1 bc we have played so many times together. I needed a minute to gauge him correctly. I am now even more unsure than I was.

No I am deffo not sure who the baddies are I think Neon and fairy bc they have never given actual reasons for their read on me. Fairy even said they will not read my responses as they do not help them or change their mind.

do I know the last one? Not really just a shot in the dark which I am not ready to make yet.

Thanks. This was a nice comprehensive list

When you said on D2 that mafia would be avoiding the pyxxy wagon on D1 at all costs, are you still behind that?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:44 pm lost power last night, am working on reading what I missed over night, will have thoughts to give

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:29 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:24 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:15 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:50 am

Well, if Roxy is ML bait, she's going over either today or tomorrow...and it's not like she'll get NKd tonight anyways

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

wtf falcon, srsly?? How can you actually justify a vote for me when you have defended me most of the last day phase. grrrrrr I would never do this to you.
It is a tinfoil TR...while I'm not really finding you scummy, I'm also not really finding you towny.

So help us if you are
I mean damn, if you have a TR on her, this is quite the worst time to hedge while voting her in mylo

You've quoted my posts and my concern she's ML bait, so don't act like this is the first you've heard of it.
I just don’t like the way you’re approaching this yeet. It’s such a shruggy tone which does not inspire confidence in mylo. If you’re town, it’s giving vibes of ‘well, I said I thought she could have been town, so it’s not my fault’ if she flips town

I just want you to own your vote

OK, that's fair.

Let me be clear: I am totally fine w/ flipping Roxy here, and I would prefer HK today.

Talk to me specifically about what you're seeing in Roxy. I know you've posted, I'd just like to hear it directly explained to me plz

To summarize:
-Roxy was on the D1 pyxxy wagon. There’s bound to be at least a wolf on that, which leaves Roxy and splints
-Roxy used an argument that wolves would avoid that wagon at all costs since they would know pyxxy is town, which in that post reads as TMI
-her poe post in d2 is just player salad
-her response today to suspicion is to basically OMGUS neon and brushing off everything else

Those are the big ones

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:19 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:15 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:32 am I feel very confident that Roxy is wolf. Her post here is quite informative and I think we should use that to find her partners once we yeet her today.

And yes, I would like to yeet Roxy today. The telltale signs are there and Neon is correct, she feels like a caught wolf.

This also clears Neon in my humble opinion. There is no reason for wolf neon to come into mylo and put the first continuation vote on her partner.
I’m thinking there is one partner in HK/Dennis, as Roxy tacked that on at the end of her suspicion post.

Splints is definitely a softball 3rd partner. I was thinking about it as I went to bed and while there have been several posts that don’t look teammate indicative, I’m not willing to remove splints from the POE.

My POE is currently Roxy/HK/falcon/splints

If dennis is wolf, I don’t see it yet.
Well, if Roxy is ML bait, she's going over either today or tomorrow...and it's not like she'll get NKd tonight anyways

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

wtf falcon, srsly?? How can you actually justify a vote for me when you have defended me most of the last day phase. grrrrrr I would never do this to you.
It is a tinfoil TR...while I'm not really finding you scummy, I'm also not really finding you towny.

So help us if you are
I mean damn, if you have a TR on her, this is quite the worst time to hedge while voting her in mylo

You've quoted my posts and my concern she's ML bait, so don't act like this is the first you've heard of it.

I just don’t like the way you’re approaching this yeet. It’s such a shruggy tone which does not inspire confidence in mylo. If you’re town, it’s giving vibes of ‘well, I said I thought she could have been town, so it’s not my fault’ if she flips town

I just want you to own your vote

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:15 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:32 am I feel very confident that Roxy is wolf. Her post here is quite informative and I think we should use that to find her partners once we yeet her today.

And yes, I would like to yeet Roxy today. The telltale signs are there and Neon is correct, she feels like a caught wolf.

This also clears Neon in my humble opinion. There is no reason for wolf neon to come into mylo and put the first continuation vote on her partner.
I’m thinking there is one partner in HK/Dennis, as Roxy tacked that on at the end of her suspicion post.

Splints is definitely a softball 3rd partner. I was thinking about it as I went to bed and while there have been several posts that don’t look teammate indicative, I’m not willing to remove splints from the POE.

My POE is currently Roxy/HK/falcon/splints

If dennis is wolf, I don’t see it yet.
Well, if Roxy is ML bait, she's going over either today or tomorrow...and it's not like she'll get NKd tonight anyways

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

wtf falcon, srsly?? How can you actually justify a vote for me when you have defended me most of the last day phase. grrrrrr I would never do this to you.
It is a tinfoil TR...while I'm not really finding you scummy, I'm also not really finding you towny.

So help us if you are

I mean damn, if you have a TR on her, this is quite the worst time to hedge while voting her in mylo

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:05 pm @Scotty I have in my posts and unlike Neon I gave reasons. I am not going into further explanations I am trying to save my townie ass.

you…did?
Ok let me comb through your posts from 78 years ago

Somewhere in the bowels of D2:

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:01 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:54 pm wow bold shows up for dirt on this forum. anyways it's porscha, wigly, sig, lemon, roxy, falcon, finger and of those I'm inclined to think sig and wigly are the most town
This reminds me of another game with Creature who made these sort of posts. I called them out I was mis-elimmed and Creature ended winning with his mafia pals. This post makes me think you are bad also.

Your only mention of HK

Early in D1:

my poe:
…
Dennis bc of your convo with Neon felt forced when questioned you back tracked and gave non response answers. It is like sig said you seem to be trying to find a suspicion with tmi…

Is that it?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:59 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:40 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:28 am <<<<<<<<<<snipped>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If they aren't true, prove it. Show us why you suspect Roxy. You literally haven't said a single thing about why you actually suspect her
Lmfao read the fucking thread Dennis. I literally did and than others added to it. It exists.
She can't do it bc it does not exist!!
but, but, but she literally did!

Remember this line everyone bc she literally DID NOT.

Lemme show everyone Neons suspicion progression that Scotty somehow found "logical" lmmfao!

First here she said, when I questioned her vote for "funzies", that she's only wrong until she is right.

This is when she started saying I was in fear of Kate "catching" me lol Kate had already said she had me down as Town lean. I do not fear anyone in mafia unless your name is rabbit or LongCon.

Here she is setting it up like she following Scotty with her vote so she can place the blame on him when I flip town, and I will flip town make no mistake about it.

Truth finally escapes from her posts, the only time she has told the truth this entire game.

Town! read her iso yourself they contain many gems like this. Throwing lemon, Scotty and myself for the reasons she is voting me

Vote how you will but I am not missing another vote Neon for her straight up lies.

Roxy, this is Misyeet or we lose. If your town, we shouldn’t voting how we will.

Can you explain your HK/Dennis suspicion?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:32 am I feel very confident that Roxy is wolf. Her post here is quite informative and I think we should use that to find her partners once we yeet her today.

And yes, I would like to yeet Roxy today. The telltale signs are there and Neon is correct, she feels like a caught wolf.

This also clears Neon in my humble opinion. There is no reason for wolf neon to come into mylo and put the first continuation vote on her partner.
I’m thinking there is one partner in HK/Dennis, as Roxy tacked that on at the end of her suspicion post.

Splints is definitely a softball 3rd partner. I was thinking about it as I went to bed and while there have been several posts that don’t look teammate indicative, I’m not willing to remove splints from the POE.

My POE is currently Roxy/HK/falcon/splints

If dennis is wolf, I don’t see it yet.
Well, if Roxy is ML bait, she's going over either today or tomorrow...and it's not like she'll get NKd tonight anyways

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

You seem more resigned to this fact.

Are you voting Roxy more because that’s the town heads are leaning or you actually suspect her?

I memorized this back in 6th grade and presented it in science class and got to skip a quiz on the elements for reciting it without a single stumble. Now I do it at work to my coworkers’ chagrin

If I’m wrong, then I’ve come to the best conclusions I can come to based on thread contributions. I either hope splints can come fill in gaps or is replaced. I especially didn’t want to get to hammer before Roxy had a chance to say her peace.

HK also seems frozen. But I’d love him to come and talk too.

I feel very confident that Roxy is wolf. Her post here is quite informative and I think we should use that to find her partners once we yeet her today.

And yes, I would like to yeet Roxy today. The telltale signs are there and Neon is correct, she feels like a caught wolf.

This also clears Neon in my humble opinion. There is no reason for wolf neon to come into mylo and put the first continuation vote on her partner.
I’m thinking there is one partner in HK/Dennis, as Roxy tacked that on at the end of her suspicion post.

Splints is definitely a softball 3rd partner. I was thinking about it as I went to bed and while there have been several posts that don’t look teammate indicative, I’m not willing to remove splints from the POE.

My POE is currently Roxy/HK/falcon/splints

If dennis is wolf, I don’t see it yet.

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:36 am
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:13 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:12 am I am really getting tired of coming here time after time just to say I am town. Everyone seems to be after an easy miselim and thats ok if you just want to get the game over with, ya know, without actually trying to solve.

Neon's constant push on me without bothering to give real reasons or responses shows me she just does not gaf about the towns game state. If she was town she would look at my posts and reevaluate as she has been wrong about me in literally every game we have played together. You have very little content past your initial tunneling of Dennis then switched to me I guess believing I'll be easier to push bc I post less. You bad Neon.

I am disappointed in Scotty as he hosted me and should completely understand my game style but alas he can't look past Neon's imv case against me.

I will make a post about suspicions but quite frankly does it really fucking matter as you all claim I have no content but I guess Porscha has content bc she has more posts but zero content but ok.

I have tons of work but I'll be back asp.
Here we have

AtE

AtE

Incorrect interpretations of my play

AtE

And attacks on my ability to read Roxy that aren't even really thar true.

Very towny reentry.

Here we have

AtE
AtE

Incorrect interpretations of my play

AtE

And attacks Neon's ability to read me which is ABSOLUTELY true. She cannot! Look it up!

Not a very towny post trying determine if what she thinks is actually true. She has NOT EVEN TRIED to once say "hey I could be wrong let me re-think this'

This is why she is bad. Her partners will be fs and lemon. HK/Dennis last choice.

splints bc believe it or not she has tried this game more than the last couple.
lemon bc they are not bothering to re-evaluate

ofc neither is Scotty or most of the thread how sad the wolves have lead every elim so far and the town is just like ok no prob you can win bc we won't bother trying.

I'll be easy bc I have an actual life and cannot hang on the computer all day and must work and spend time with people who matter in my life. I am an In the Mud veggie. LHF. Easy pickings.

Every fucking time.

Even with people who hosted me AND played with me are refusing to read me properly - you know properly - like reading my actual posts and suspicions.

I will never change wg=hy should I none of you do.

“She has NOT EVEN TRIED to once say "hey I could be wrong let me re-think this'”
I see this. But is this AI? I think it just shows conviction.

Ok so the proposed POE here is neon/splints/lemon…and hk/Dennis?
“splints bc believe it or not she has tried this game more than the last couple.
lemon bc they are not bothering to re-evaluate”
“I am an In the Mud veggie. LHF. Easy pickings.”

ok so…you are a self-professed LHF, and you propose…splints as a baddie…who is objectively the most LHF left in the game. Am I reading that right?

Also, you have more experience with splints. Are you saying that a splints that tries is bad? I haven’t got an impression from your iso that you suspect splints at all.

And the HK/Dennis just seems tacked on. Why those 2?

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:12 am I am really getting tired of coming here time after time just to say I am town. Everyone seems to be after an easy miselim and thats ok if you just want to get the game over with, ya know, without actually trying to solve.

Neon's constant push on me without bothering to give real reasons or responses shows me she just does not gaf about the towns game state. If she was town she would look at my posts and reevaluate as she has been wrong about me in literally every game we have played together. You have very little content past your initial tunneling of Dennis then switched to me I guess believing I'll be easier to push bc I post less. You bad Neon.

I am disappointed in Scotty as he hosted me and should completely understand my game style but alas he can't look past Neon's imv case against me.

I will make a post about suspicions but quite frankly does it really fucking matter as you all claim I have no content but I guess Porscha has content bc she has more posts but zero content but ok.

I have tons of work but I'll be back asp.

A lot to unpack here

You say you’re an east miselim which is…false. Or else we’d have hammered by now.

“…thats ok if you just want to get the game over with, ya know, without actually trying to solve.”

This is akin to sitting in a sinking dinghy and crossing your arms in exasperation while those around you are hurriedly throwing buckets of water over the side to keep us afloat.

“ I am disappointed in Scotty as he hosted me and should completely understand my game style but alas he can't look past Neon's imv case against me.

”

If you’ve read my entrance, I already suspected you on my own before Neon even posted today, but sure.

I dunno Roxy, this whole post just feels like your back is up against the wall and you’re just throwing grenades wildly, when in reality we’re all in a courtroom listening to your testimony.

I'm very good at integral and differential calculus;
I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:
In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I am the very model of a modern Major-General.

I’m also already over my post cap but frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.

Because if we are correct in one of the wolves today, mafia should kill me or they’re going to wish they did

There’s still time for me to talk myself out of everything I said.

@Roxy please do come and say your side

@hollowkatt you as well.

I could be wrong on one of Dennis/lemon, but I’d stake my game on at least one of them as town.

And meanwhile rereading Roxy’s iso, and the fact that Wilgy suspected her, and that HK and falcon:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:34 am HK, splints, lemon & Neon.

I worry that Roxy is Mafs choice for the ML

have perpetuated the idea that Roxy is a misyeet fodder

Makes me just feel like the game is solved. I feel really good about voting either of HK/Roxy today.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:23 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:16 am
Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:47 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:09 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:32 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:29 pm D | E | N | N | I | S

is

locktown

D | E | N | N | I | S

does not

K̷i̴l̷l̸

møthér...
This read is bad
Was Dennis pure then?

Was Dennis pure then?

Odds

ARE

That if so...

Then OPENs

Up to ROXY and DENNIS

But no, that doesn't make sense.

Surely you don't feel that Roxy and Dennis

Are BOTH in the PoE still.

That would be...

So lovely...
I’m confused by what you are saying here
One W on Dennis.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll use a bat

One W on Pyxxy.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you flat

One W floating free.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you DEAD

Point 1 is ONLY impossible if there's a

W Dennis or

A 2nd on Pyxxy

The 2nd

Hoho ho...

The 2nd on Pyxxy

Is likely

Roxy.

again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.

Yeah this post I keep coming back to.

It feels like a form of TMI.

Especially considering the only surviving players at the time of this post that voted for pyxxy were Porscha, splints and Roxy herself.

Roxy then had a few darts to throw at Porscha later on for her lack of content.

If Roxy doesn’t think wolves are ‘anywhere near pyxxy’s wagon’, why even make a slight shrug at someone like Porscha?

If lemon and Dennis are town/ I know I’m town / we’re left with 2 more town out of

Neon
Falcon
HK
Roxy
splints

I don’t see splints and Roxy on the same team, but I’m very certain one of them is bad. Could just be Roxy.

If it’s Roxy, and my hypothesis that a wolf wouldn’t bus each other today is true, neon is the last town.

But if neon is the last town, my hypothesis can’t be true, as falcon would be bussing HK.

But neon has said she’s fine staying on Roxy. Falcon could still switch if need be.

Lemon’s team of Roxy/hk/falcon is definitely a strong front runner

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:36 pm I still kind of like fs' reads post (the one where they say they feel ok on Roxy and falcon and have slight townreads on me and Demnis)
idk it feels kind of pure?
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 10:49 am I really hope some people post why they are voting Roxy soon, because I don’t get that suspicion at all.
^also find it hard to see this as w/w with Roxy

Yeah I independently found another post when I first reviewed splints that made me not see them compatible as w/w too

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:25 pm and continuing with my late-night potato thoughts
I do realize my world kind of hinges on Roxy being mafia and it would be kind of awkward if Roxy was town

I'd like to think I'm still very open to the idea that Roxy could be town and I'm just wrong but I do find it difficult to switch up my POE too much

Neon, I still think is town
I know Neon also has a good scumgame and I shouldn't put as much weight into her being happy and seemingly eager to solve at the start of the game but I think I kind of vibe with her this game and it also doesn't make much sense for scum Neon to be stuck on Roxy when other misexes are just as good

Dennis idk I haven't really re-evaled there (or anywhere aside from Wilgy) but they do feel mostly unaligned

Scotty feels like a breath of fresh air for the game
there was no need to try and push for a threadstate that's more conducive for solving if Scotty is scum
also the townread on Neon after looking through her ISO felt pretty real

fingersplits is probably someone I'm overlooking
I remember a post that said Roxy's treatment of fs was a little pockety and I agreed
I also liked this one posted they made early game but I don't think that's enough for anymore

another point on HK is that iirc they were one of the main pushing forces on Porscha? correct me if I'm wrong

actually falcon voting HK does throw me for a spin
I mean sure, they could be bussing or distancing but that could be me conf-biasing myself

I was thinking about your last point RE falcon bussing HK and it’s something I initially considered but it doesn’t too much sense with the current state. Unless he is hinging on no one else voting HK and it gaining traction, there’s no point for wolves not to go for the win today like HK has said

Lemon and Dennis are currently my top town.

I won’t be voting there.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:57 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:32 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:16 pm @Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?

@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here
There was precisely nothing to talk about other than scotty's talking the last time I was here

We're in MYLO, you force conversation if you're town. Sitting back is what Maf do.
A lil bit difficult when there's like 4 people in a 7 person game talking

But I can try

Give us some reads plz
Scotty has come in guns blazin but I think a wolf entering this situation stays quiet and lets WiM die or follows their wolf buddies leads ergo town

Lemonfairy is retaining towny behaviors blah blah blah I've had no real reason to reevaluate them

Splints is MIA and I don't even remember a single one of her posts. So other than being on 2 town wagons and "there's a diff check" it feels like lhf to push splints. Problem is Roxy is in literally the same exact boat

HK I townread but for a pretty weak reason (I think it was like "weird D1 but focused up D2") but since scotty and falcon both scumread I'll pay more attention

Falcon is like a townlean because there's nothing substantial but there's also nothing bad. Though you are getting more aggressive, but I think that's just limlo

Your first point about me coming in guns a blazing runs into one of my points that I think is a compensation buddying technique I’m seeing in HK with his breakdown of the final 8 and why we need to be careful. It’s giving vibes of an assistant girl’s volleyball coach coming in to the final game of the season shouting WE DID IT! after being absent for 5 months of their season with a respiratory illness.

I agree that splints is LHF. She could go either way, tho her iso is pretty lackluster with suspicions and content, and her votes are obviously bad.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:01 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:56 pm There’s something in HK/falcon
What's up with this
Indeed!

Falcon and HK have a link but I’m not quite there yet.

HK has shot up my suspicion list today. Here is my perception of his day and why it’s suspicious:
-he made a reads list end of day yesterday
-he didn’t state who he actually suspects now, as he seemingly hasn’t thought about it between then and now
-neon was in his townreads, and roxy was in his null
-he comes out with a (warning?? Theory?) that there is probably a difference check between neon and Roxy.
-and sets up the idea that wolves killed Wilgy to frame Roxy
-warns Neon about the optics of voting for Roxy and explains that we are, in fact, in mylo
-???

I don’t believe that HK actually knows who he wants to push, but it sure seems like he is soft defending Roxy. But hasn’t gone so far as to say he suspects Neon after saying there’s a difference check there.

As for falcon? Falcon has made a point that sitting back is not a pro-town move here in MyLo, and that is exactly what HK has stated is his plan today. I’ll keep looking into that
Why did you put them together then? Is it like straight up a at their interactions or like

I think I explained this in my math post.

I think there’s a good chance a wolf is voting or is being voted in both of those pairings. Wolf falcon could be pushing a town HK, or town falcon is voting wolf HK. Same with neon and Roxy.

There’s only so much for me to go on but that’s where I’m at.

And at a base level, those 2 are currently voting the pairing.

Why does no one suspect splints? What has splints provided in this game to give a Townlean?

Actual question to anyone. @fingersplints you can answer too. I’d really like your input there too. We miss you. I’d like to talk about your car’s extended warranty

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:35 pm I have to sleep soon
sowwy but I will probably be very busy tomorrow and won't have time to post at all

my vote is on sleep rn
if I get the chance, I would move it onto an actual person (probably Roxy)

Who’s a secondary option. I need your input before you disappear into the candy forest

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:04 pm If we go to sleep, and splints/Roxy haven’t posted, you can bet they ain’t dying tonite. Wolf’s dream, that

Who're your top wolf candidates?
At this point I’m looking at this as more of a
Math problem

You have voted HK
Neon has voted Roxy.

I don’t think both of you are wolf. I know votes aren’t locked but for 2 wolves to shoot their shot on different townies is unnecessary to achieve a misyeet today.

I’m also shying away from thinking a wolf would vote their partner in a position where wolves could easily find a patsy.

So HK is not your partner, and Roxy is not Neon’s partner. That doesn’t mean that either of you are townlocked. You could be setting up HK. I feel like there’s an agenda there, and i can’t figure out if it’s genuine or baiting yet.

I have stated reasons to suspect both HK and ROXY, and think it likely that one of those is a hit. They could both be hits, but consolidating on one of them is ideal today I think.

I’d say odds of one of them being a hit is 67%. Which is as good odds as we can get unless we sleep

Er, changed the name from neon to Roxy

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:25 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:04 pm If we go to sleep, and splints/Roxy haven’t posted, you can bet they ain’t dying tonite. Wolf’s dream, that

Who're your top wolf candidates?

At this point I’m looking at this as more of a
Math problem

You have voted HK
Neon has voted Roxy.

I don’t think both of you are wolf. I know votes aren’t locked but for 2 wolves to shoot their shot on different townies is unnecessary to achieve a misyeet today.

I’m also shying away from thinking a wolf would vote their partner in a position where wolves could easily find a patsy.

So HK is not your partner, and Roxy is not Neon’s partner. That doesn’t mean that either of you are townlocked. You could be setting up HK. I feel like there’s an agenda there, and i can’t figure out if it’s genuine or baiting yet.

I have stated reasons to suspect both HK and neon, and think it likely that one of those is a hit. They could both be hits, but consolidating on one of them is ideal today I think.

I’d say odds of one of them being a hit is 67%. Which is as good odds as we can get unless we sleep

If we go to sleep, and splints/Roxy haven’t posted, you can bet they ain’t dying tonite. Wolf’s dream, that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:57 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:56 pm There’s something in HK/falcon
What's up with this
He thinks one of us is Maf. I tend to agree

At least one. But that’s for a latter day.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:35 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:56 pm There’s something in HK/falcon
What's up with this

Indeed!

Falcon and HK have a link but I’m not quite there yet.

HK has shot up my suspicion list today. Here is my perception of his day and why it’s suspicious:
-he made a reads list end of day yesterday
-he didn’t state who he actually suspects now, as he seemingly hasn’t thought about it between then and now
-neon was in his townreads, and roxy was in his null
-he comes out with a (warning?? Theory?) that there is probably a difference check between neon and Roxy.
-and sets up the idea that wolves killed Wilgy to frame Roxy
-warns Neon about the optics of voting for Roxy and explains that we are, in fact, in mylo
-???

I don’t believe that HK actually knows who he wants to push, but it sure seems like he is soft defending Roxy. But hasn’t gone so far as to say he suspects Neon after saying there’s a difference check there.

As for falcon? Falcon has made a point that sitting back is not a pro-town move here in MyLo, and that is exactly what HK has stated is his plan today. I’ll keep looking into that

There’s something in HK/falcon and neon/Roxy. I would bet my game on it that those pairings have at least 1 mafia in each pairing.

I wouldn’t put it past falcon to be voting his partner here. But I’m not so confident on falcon in any case. I think I’d prefer to focus on the neon/Roxy side.

I would love for Roxy and splints to show up. But as of right now with a gun to my head here in MyLo, I’d shoot roxy

I’m voting for sleep at the moment. I don’t think that’s a terrible place to be in general.

In other news I have a new puppy coming tomorrow and I probably won’t be getting much sleep for a while

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:11 pm Roxy and splints just disappearing while there's so much talk about a difference check between them is rather demotivating

I’m about as thrilled with splint’s ISO and voting record as getting a $0.06 check in the mail from a residual voice over I did 8 years ago.

But I don’t believe at least one of them isn’t bad. What we know is they’re not around to defend themselves.

But there is a 3rd that has posted today

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:01 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:35 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:32 pm if Roxy is town and Neon is town I would expect the game to have ended already because of the vote there. Kinda wanna call that a difference check between the two of them. I don't see any reason why wolf neon would be pushing wolf roxy when they can just coordinate a win today with a mistake by town
I do believe there is a difference check there.

I said Neon is town, but in a game where roxy is town, lemon and neon look bad for peripheral reasons on wagon dynamics alone.

I don’t currently feel Neon is bad, but honestly? She is the first person to come out today with a modicum of confidence in a player’s alignment when town should be in a bit of a hesitant state. Neon’s vote progression for Roxy *makes sense* as she has had that same suspicion yesterday and, on top of that, Roxy’s association with both NKs have been suspicious
I feel like this is a playstyle difference. Like yeah, you and I are being careful but from my experiences with Neon she tends to be confident and the like

So I'm kinda reading neon's snapvoting and projected confidence as NAI

Yeah, I’m actually TRing neon decide to snap vote and leave it there, even though votes aren’t locked

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 5:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:03 pm HK, Neon, Lemon.

@Scotty now that you've woken up, can you give me fresh eyes on these 3 slots?
I should be doing what I like doing when I’m spec’ing- seeing the voting breakdown and not reading a bit of the thread to make wild, unsubstantiated calls on players.

I mean, I sorta did that when I came in, which made me feel the D1 pyxxy poll is fishy. At least one of Roxy/splints has to be bad from my perspective UNLESS Dennis is exactly town and wolves were fine to let town cannabalize each other. Which is possible but unlikely at this point. We obviously have to find the BEST case we can to get a wolf today. I have 3/7 chances to find the correct one (I am town) which ain’t terrible odds.

Anyway, hk/neon/lemon

I’ve said I liked neon’s iso- haven’t looked through citrus pixie or X-ray kat. Will do so in a bit
What does my alignment have to do with this

The two top wagons were pyxxy and you. If you are town, t/t wagons make it less likely wolves were trying to save on D1 and have more freedom to do whatever.

HK as a distant 3rd with 2 votes is a distinct save possibility, however.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:11 pm [VOTE: wigly] aubergine

ur too excited

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:11 pm I'm gonna vote dennis now for poorly explained reasons like "I don't like his posts" and "his content seems lacking"
I'm gonna protect wigly as long as he posts like he is because it's funny.

[VOTE: dennis] aubergine

This is a progression of someone that hasn’t put too much thought into voting someone off D1, considering he hasn’t mentioned a good chunk of the player base but has already said he’s not gonna push Wilgy and Dennis isn’t someone he wants to kill.

In any case, I don’t think this is a good look for HK

Hk ISOing:

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:42 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:31 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:16 pm someone tag me when the mafia game starts
It will never start.

But seriously I've asked several questions.

I'll ask you one. First impressions?
wigly susing me early is weird but not weird enough for me to push.
ur mostly fine, fluffy as fuck and devoid of content but fine. Kate also fine. Dennis is funny and a literal child but also isn't someone I really wanna kill.

Everyone else can die idc really. except sig he's town

This is a sketchy d1 read list. Too many towns that are a tad convenient.

It could be said that Roxy hasn’t posted because she is

Tongue-tied

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:16 pm @Dennis Feels like you're content to sit on the sidelines. Why?

@Roxy If you're town, going MIA will lose us the game. Get in here

Who would you vote right now if you could control the vote?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:59 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:50 pm Starting Lemonfairy’s iso
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:15 pm I have a confession to make
I kind of townread pyxxy because I kind of vibed with their early read lists

but I didn't care enough to try and stop the exe
plus that final gif was just unforgivable

it was a necessary sacrifice
for the greater good
I like this post-pyxxy flip. Wolf Lemonfairy doesn’t need to say this unprompted.

Of course I don’t know Lemonfairy’s playstyle\if this is normal

Wolves always have what appear to some to be good posts...what town ever lets their TRs flip w/o ever expressing their doubts?

It's anti town to let your TRs go over w/o some inquiry, pushback, clarification, etc

In context with the rest of lemonfairy’s iso, it looks even better. I’ve never played with them, so I went back to their first game Felt Mafia. I notice a difference in playstyles between the two (as does Wilgy and even lemon self-admits in d2). Mainly, so many of lemon’s posts are shruggy and lacking of confidence. A lot of idk’s and maybe and ??? throughout. Whereas the only other reference in Felt they were a bit more declarative.

So to have an honest-looking post like this one that I listed that makes their thought process look even worse is a good look imo.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:03 am ummmm
ok yeah

maybe I will come back to ISO everyone later

what is a stool pigeon?
should I feel offended? lol

I’m sure stool pigeon is just bird-shaped poop

Starting Lemonfairy’s iso

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:15 pm I have a confession to make
I kind of townread pyxxy because I kind of vibed with their early read lists

but I didn't care enough to try and stop the exe
plus that final gif was just unforgivable

it was a necessary sacrifice
for the greater good

I like this post-pyxxy flip. Wolf Lemonfairy doesn’t need to say this unprompted.

Of course I don’t know Lemonfairy’s playstyle\if this is normal

When you’re lying awake
with a dismal headache
And repose is tabooed by anxiety;
I conceive you may use
Any language you choose
To indulge in without impropriety

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:39 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:38 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:32 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:29 pm Do you think wolves are more inclined to play the Frame Game or take out someone that is blowing up your spot?

Sometimes too easy is a fallacy to ignore. Sometimes it just is that easy
I think wolves play for the win here today. I don't think there's a reason to mess around when they don't have to.
I mean, yes. In a world where Wilgy was set up to be a frame job, who are wolves counting on to pile onto Roxy?

As a counterpoint, Wilgy dropped his shtick and started prodding in different directions. That can be dangerous for a mafia team that wants to take out dissenting voices. I don’t think looking away from Roxy because it’s ‘too obvious or easy’ is the way to approach today

And if it is, gg wolves. Playing 4d chess
yeah wigly being NK makes perfect sense

Why was Kate killed, in your estimation?

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