Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:17 am[VOTE:
nanook] aubergine
thanks!
Man you weren’t even tagged and you show up to thread like a lumberjack to a plaid convention. It’s as if you’re busy lurking and trying not to throw too many bad reads out there.
It’s far easier to town read people than it is to scumread if you’re scum. Maybe it’s time to take off the pampers my dood
i don't believe in making scumreads and a vaguely insulting comment about me wearing diapers (I did it one time as a joke to make my wife laugh ok, if you have kids you probably get it) isn't gonna make me change my mind lol
Don’t be insulted, my dog is wearing diapers now and she’s she’s smart and knows how to shake.
“Don’t believe in making scumreads”
That’s quite a statement. Do you usually hunt by this process of elimination?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 11:01 amI'm going to assume that any scumread on me is because you're salty that I'm better at the game than you while also not appearing to give a single shit about "taking things seriously" or "waiting for a large enough sample size"
It’s D1, so taking things seriously isn’t a valid argument a lot of the time.
But it surefire doesn’t make me want to read you as town in any capacity, cranny.
Made wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 10:09 am
note to self, if you role scum, just don't post anything of substance. People will forget about you and then you win
Instructions unclear because that’s all you’ve done and it’s obvious
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 9:17 am[VOTE:
nanook] aubergine
thanks!
Man you weren’t even tagged and you show up to thread like a lumberjack to a plaid convention. It’s as if you’re busy lurking and trying not to throw too many bad reads out there.
It’s far easier to town read people than it is to scumread if you’re scum. Maybe it’s time to take off the pampers my dood
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:13 pm
I really don't believe that Scotty genuinely thinks that me saying I want to form a town circle with Mac and Tim is going to lead to us throwing the endgame because we held onto that one post from page 1 throughout the entire game.
I don't think you have played with him from what I can see, some people from what I have seen have a general mistrust when someone gives easy town reads. There is no problem with him finding it uncomfortable. You are thinking in a very unidirectional way. Though I am getting town vibes from your post but this doesn't help town.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:30 pm
So far you have written performative fluff, attempted to derail the game into drawn out mechanics speculation, displayed awkward confusion when suspected, attempted to dissuade me from townreading Mac, and then pivoted directly into casting shade on me when I continue to suspect you.
Though i disagree with your thoughts regarding him but i think this post comes from a scum hunting mentality.
Alison wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:49 am
If a vigilante were to accidentally misfire their gun while cleaning it and Gavial were to drop dead in a tragic firearms accident, none of us would blame them.
Since I have an assortment of shrines to choose from I am actively investigating which Daedra are ,ore likely to supply vig shots. Between spin to win, open wolf claim and dip, and the rest of the antics I think we have an abundance of good targets.
Oh, I see what you were confused about now, you don't get told which shrine correlates to which ability. I do, so I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I'm betting the people who have to take a gamble get slightly more powerful abilities compared to people like me though, so maybe it evens out.
or maybe tim just scumslipped
Nah see that’s what’s I thought on page 1, but if he scumslipped, so did LC. Which is not impossible, I suppose.
But I also wouldn’t put it past sloon to make this game a bit asymmetrical with town capabilities.
Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:15 am
usually when people ping me as mafia it's like 20m before end of day and they were already lynched the day before
This made me lol
I missed you quillen
i've been trying to channel my inner scotty since youve been gone
Quin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:15 am
usually when people ping me as mafia it's like 20m before end of day and they were already lynched the day before
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.
My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.
One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
Wow never mind, it was in the first page. Someone else can see stuff.
Ok then, carrying on with my business.
My question still remains if, say for example, the Nords are wont to not worshipping daedra while those cat things worship Rum Tug Tugger
In Elder Scrolls lore I think Daedra worship is universal and sort of universally frowned on officially. There's a "state religion" and the Daedra worshipers are sort of like the tolerated pagans that haven't been successfully brought around. Daedra shrines aren't found in the best part of town, but they aren't exactly hidden. As far as I know there is no racial preferences towards any particular individual Daedra.
there is exactly zero chance that at least one of you chuck-le-fux aren't mafia. shut the fuck up.
Never mind about your lack of sauciness. You definitely had your curry and ate it too
Caught up. Still don’t know how to add my avatar so it reads on mobile.
also did linki go buhbye? I miss pushing Submit and then getting bombarded with unread posts
Off the top of me head.
Nook buddying and then their contributions after make me uneasy.
Flanders does in fact seem sexy. Like the serious tone.
Made’s post leave a LOT to be desired.
KZA seems blendy
Kyle is Kyle.
Mac isn’t striking me as town or evil necessarily. His reads are seemingly organic but he’s not as spicy as normal, which could be indicative of drinking too much milk or something more serious. Currently leaning scum but that could fluctuate.
Alison I have to think is town right now.
Gav is playing a very coy D1. I don’t think ima vote for him today, but if he continues to play wheel of fortune and doesn’t switch to jeopardy tomorrow ima be less lenient.
Syn stole Kyle’s avatar and I don’t like it.
Enrique? Cant put my finger on it. Will need to look at his posts in a vacuum. He’s rubbing me the wrong way this game. Need to get a stronger ointment prescribed to ease the chapping.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.
My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.
One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
Wow never mind, it was in the first page. Someone else can see stuff.
Ok then, carrying on with my business.
My question still remains if, say for example, the Nords are wont to not worshipping daedra while those cat things worship Rum Tug Tugger
In Elder Scrolls lore I think Daedra worship is universal and sort of universally frowned on officially. There's a "state religion" and the Daedra worshipers are sort of like the tolerated pagans that haven't been successfully brought around. Daedra shrines aren't found in the best part of town, but they aren't exactly hidden. As far as I know there is no racial preferences towards any particular individual Daedra.
Well that’s disappointing. Was hoping to do a little jigsaw puzzle mix n match.
So just to summarize- you can visit a shrine but you have no solid idea of what it gifts you?
I have a pretty wide selection to choose from, and not a clue about any of them.
Now that is interesting.
I can choose from 3 but I know exactly what they do. It makes me feel like I maybe have some less powerful shrines at my disposal but I can plan ahead; and you have the world at your fingertips but have no idea what world you’re fingering
Variable dynamic and probably NAI as you said. I no longer suspect you for those reasons.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.
My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.
One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
Wow never mind, it was in the first page. Someone else can see stuff.
Ok then, carrying on with my business.
My question still remains if, say for example, the Nords are wont to not worshipping daedra while those cat things worship Rum Tug Tugger
In Elder Scrolls lore I think Daedra worship is universal and sort of universally frowned on officially. There's a "state religion" and the Daedra worshipers are sort of like the tolerated pagans that haven't been successfully brought around. Daedra shrines aren't found in the best part of town, but they aren't exactly hidden. As far as I know there is no racial preferences towards any particular individual Daedra.
Well that’s disappointing. Was hoping to do a little jigsaw puzzle mix n match.
So just to summarize- you can visit a shrine but you have no solid idea of what it gifts you?
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:57 pm
Being uncomfortable with strong early reads is either scum nervous about how quick town are launching into solving or a site culture issue where they come from a community whose site meta is to dick around D1. However Scotty has experience with MacDougall and doesn't seem to be a first-time Syndicator so I am doubting the latter explanation.
The site is very different today from Scotty’s time. It’s also weird to me but I understand that’s just how the game has changed...
Jesus man, making me out to be, like, Methusalah.
Or god forbid, even @Epignosis
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.
My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.
One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
Wow never mind, it was in the first page. Someone else can see stuff.
Ok then, carrying on with my business.
My question still remains if, say for example, the Nords are wont to not worshipping daedra while those cat things worship Rum Tug Tugger
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:00 pm
Regardless Scotty has towntold a bit in the last couple of pages so I must search for scum elsewhere.
I'm currently thinking the way Flanders jumped on Falcon was bad.
How so? I don’t think anything I’ve said in the past few pages is any different.
Long Con and I both already pointed this out.
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:06 pm
And if what I did was towntell, why am I the only one with question marks pinned to my hat as to why no one else knows what shrines do?
You aren't the only one. Clearly there are some people with characters with greater specifics on shrines, and then there are lesser character types (like merchants) that don't. I started out thinking Alison was suss for info, you started out thinking I was suss for lack of it, people are coming in on both sides so it's probably all NAI. Moving on.
I must’ve missed it, but thanks for answering for Alison.
I can see that some people have more info on shrines, but what I fail to see is anyone else affirming that they can see shrine capabilities. Seem to be holding it pretty close to their chest. Or else I’ve missed it.
I can see some yummy shrine descriptions. Anyone else?
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:21 pm
So, historically this is where I make the one word post; "first" and then dip for several hours. I have always found that amusing, since I am never actually first. However, I have been putting off a change in playstyle for several games due to an unfortunate series of rands and the opportunity has finally arrived. No one word humor driven first post. No threadsitting fluff posting. No obnoxiously refusing to give reads. I'm just here to town it up and if the wolves NK me for it that's fine.
I wanted to do this in GoC but that vig rand; I had to play it to stay alive. I have read through all the rules and such in the OP and my own role, and I think all the good power type actions are going to be available to all town players based on shrine visits so I am just one of many and eating the early NK will be fine.
I do have a pretty strong amount of experience with Elder Scrolls games, though I think Sloonei is writing a new story here and that knowledge is background at best. If anyone has questions I will try to help though. Ping me.
As a first cut, Azura is generally the most inclined to help mortals among the Daedra...and Mehrunes Dagon should really translate as "run the other way as fast as you can" so I am most likely not visiting that shrine ever.
first
what have we done to deserve a wild scotty and a wild quin in the same game?
You separated your glass from your plastics for the friendly recycling man earlier this year and the grateful recycling fairy came down from trash mountain and released her magic on the world
(Also sea turtles are still dying from plastic 6pack holders but we can ignore that)
Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:45 pm
Can’t decide Gavial? Don’t worry! Wheel decide for you!
That’s right ladies and gentleman! For this game I’ll be using the wheel decide for my reads! I’ll spin the wheel to determine my results.
During Day 1 (that’s today) I’ll be putting 11 Null Town, 7 Lean Town, 5 Town, 2 Lock Town, 9 Null Scum, 5 Lean Scum, 3 Scum and 1 Lock Scum as options in the wheel and spin it for every player in the game!
Then for the next days I’ll be spinning to see if I should change my reads. “Yes” means I do and “No” means I don’t change it.
If it is “Yes” I’ll be doing Up 1, Up 2, Up 3, Down 1, Down 2, Down 3 to determine the next new read change.
If it’s already Lock Scum/Town I’ll remove the
Up/Down which ever it is and add a “4” to it.
They hard called you wolf off some opening post NAI stuff and you just fluffed that off, but you are uncomfortable with an equally unfounded town read?
It’s far more dangerous to town lock someone early than it is to sus. That’s how town gets shazammed by a towny mafia
Well, presuming that you are town getting bumrushed by tunnelers before the day even gets started is definitely bad for your victory conditions (if you really get hard tunneled that will give the wolves every opportunity to just luff through day one), where a poor town read probably won't hurt you for several days at least.
Meh. I’m used to being a target early because I’m manic. Doesn’t mean I can’t get stuff done. I like discussion. I’m the guy that brings frisbees, whiffle balls and monopoly to the football game in case spectators get bored.
Fair. But it is true that an early "town core" isn't an immediate tragedy, especially since if me, Mac, and Alison are all alive going through the midgame I can pretty well guarantee that the kumbaya hold hands and dance together bit will meet a messy end of tinfoil and tribulations unless we have just slaughtered wolves right left and center to prove to each other that we are on the straight and narrow path. Townreads legit don't do any harm unless they carry to late game.
Town read = / = town lock
Strawhenge got early town locked so hard in Fallout that a red check on him during endgame got completely ignored, and then he won for his wolf team.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm
Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.
Someone so quick to townlock others 45 minutes into the game makes me uncomfy.
They hard called you wolf off some opening post NAI stuff and you just fluffed that off, but you are uncomfortable with an equally unfounded town read?
It’s far more dangerous to town lock someone early than it is to sus. That’s how town gets shazammed by a towny mafia
Well, presuming that you are town getting bumrushed by tunnelers before the day even gets started is definitely bad for your victory conditions (if you really get hard tunneled that will give the wolves every opportunity to just luff through day one), where a poor town read probably won't hurt you for several days at least.
Meh. I’m used to being a target early because I’m manic. Doesn’t mean I can’t get stuff done. I like discussion. I’m the guy that brings frisbees, whiffle balls and monopoly to the football game in case spectators get bored.
Fair. But it is true that an early "town core" isn't an immediate tragedy, especially since if me, Mac, and Alison are all alive going through the midgame I can pretty well guarantee that the kumbaya hold hands and dance together bit will meet a messy end of tinfoil and tribulations unless we have just slaughtered wolves right left and center to prove to each other that we are on the straight and narrow path. Townreads legit don't do any harm unless they carry to late game.
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:24 pm
I don't know what any Shrines do for anyone. Don't we have to visit them to find out? And should we share what they do publicly?
Yikes. Am I the only town that knows shit? Have I already revealed too much?
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm
Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.
Someone so quick to townlock others 45 minutes into the game makes me uncomfy.
They hard called you wolf off some opening post NAI stuff and you just fluffed that off, but you are uncomfortable with an equally unfounded town read?
It’s far more dangerous to town lock someone early than it is to sus. That’s how town gets shazammed by a towny mafia
Well, presuming that you are town getting bumrushed by tunnelers before the day even gets started is definitely bad for your victory conditions (if you really get hard tunneled that will give the wolves every opportunity to just luff through day one), where a poor town read probably won't hurt you for several days at least.
Meh. I’m used to being a target early because I’m manic. Doesn’t mean I can’t get stuff done. I like discussion. I’m the guy that brings frisbees, whiffle balls and monopoly to the football game in case spectators get bored.
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.
My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.
One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
If you have detailed info on what powers you get from various shrines you are way ahead of me, but I'm pretty deeply in the "yeah typical NPC type character" pool, so sure. Thanks for clarifying because I was mostly thinking this was your fairly typical early game claim and not really aligning well with the set-up, but it does make sense enough now.
Let me lead by example then: I’m going to scumread tim right now.
Maybe I am off base here, but I know exactly what the shrines I can access do, and I am town.
Could it be that some town roles don’t see that into? Maybe.
But I’m currently getting non commital vibes that don’t ring town in tim
I am just a humble merchant and don't know squat from what Daedric shrines do. If you seriously think "unaffiliated with Daedra" is gonna be a wolf tell in this setup, then...sure, go get it tiger. I think that's a really bad assumption.
Let's check the flip side...Alison says that like you she has info on what the shrines do for her...does that make her a lock town in your opinion?
No no I didn’t say anything about being unaffiliated with daedra, I said that you not knowing what at least one shrine does from your role card is suspicious.
And that’s based on literally an assumption you not matching my info is a scumtell. But I also acknowledge that this could be a dart throw
As to Alison being a town lock- not until I see something happen in thread that tells me she is town.
Though fwiw I think she is performing as a down to business town. Like Barbara from shark tank
Town read = / = town lock
