The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:52 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:25 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:58 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:11 pm DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

What you ought to be asking is why is everyone so not-resistant.

We're all bad. That's why. Get your little pencil out. Write down our names.

That doesn't seem very nice.

Hey you’re that dude from the Geico commercial! Hi dude from the Geico commercial!

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:46 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:59 am I guess I'll [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Are we gonna vote for him tomorrow too since he won't die-die or does he not have a second role anymore?

he should have a second role, it dont remember him appearing in any of Golden/Juliet's death posts

This is correct

It’s times like these I wish we had 24 hour phases

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:21 am Honestly, it's just process of elimination. I have strong to moderate reasons to read everyone in here as town except for wilgy.

Again, we just lost two baddies from this tribe. There were 10 of us initially. If there's multiple baddies left in here, that would mean we started with at least a 6 vs 4 spread in this tribe and still managed to eliminate one member from each team in a single day phase. I don't think that happened. I'm comfortable assuming that there is a maximum of one mafia member in this tribe at the moment.

Based on that assumption—If there is only one Mafia member here, then odds are that the other tribe will be receiving a kill night 9 since a) mafia teams are probably alternating kills and b) you must target your own tribe for night actions

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:11 pm DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

What you ought to be asking is why is everyone so not-resistant.

You’re like my uncle showing up to poker night and asking why everyone isn’t playing monopoly.

It’s because monopoly isn’t a game, it’s a simulation, and your car is blocking the driveway

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:09 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:08 pm my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

Are you a fucking stump? I know what it’s like to be a fucking stump

i WISH i was a stump, i'd instantly activate

but sadly no im not. (you missed your opportunity in Phenon, i know )

Tbh I didn’t take full advantage of it in your game because I was mad busy and couldn’t keep track of the thread to be at all useful. #alltheregerts

That we haven’t had more than 1 kill on any given night is a good sign at least that there probably isn’t a serial killer. Or if there is, it isn’t activated yet.

Oh, and spritcecil- thanks for confirming you didn’t submit an action on N4. I guess that doesn’t help my idea that Marmot used his power.
It’s a moot point now, but yeah, we never heard your speeches on Bidoof. Only death posts.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:29 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:03 pm I wonder if the other tribe will be able to find two votes to rub together in order to lynch speedchuck.

I'm almost 100% certain Speedchuck will not be lynched.

On what grounds?

Just going off the evidence we have.

Yeah, if they didn’t get 5 votes with majority members of the original Pikachu tribe giving information on speedchuck’s badness yesterday, I don’t foresee a change.

We just gotta have merge or have Jeff to come in with another challenge that allows us to goku all up in the other tribe’s ass.

DH, I don’t inderstand why you’re so resistant to Wilgy killing. He’s obviously here farting around, because he still answers and knows we’re talking about him. He’s just taking the ole sig approach and not caring.

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:08 pm my new role blows because we have no infodumping

ugh. why do i get stuck with a bastard role

Are you a fucking stump? I know what it’s like to be a fucking stump

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:16 pm In answer to DH's probing, I think wilgy is the most likely member of the former Cerberus tribe to have killed sprityo, and there isn't really a close second.

Ding ding ding.

vote Wilgy[/vote] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:20 pm ISOs up.

Scotty, you aren't getting an iso link of my posts because it is literally redundant. So there

Not on mobile it's not.

Thank you Sir Golden and yes, on mobile it’s a nightmare

I feel as though things look bleak for me tonight with jack going buh bye last night. It’s the first time mafia have shown a desire to totally eliminate someone :/

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:14 pm Top Five List of Things People Think Matter In Mafia But Actually They Dont

5. Rainbow Lists
4. Meta
3. Adverbs
2. Rainbow Lists Again
1. Rainbow Lists a Third Time.

Epi would like to quickly have a word with you

Either Sloonei is the civviest of the civs (I’ve held that position basically all game) or he’s been bamboozling us all. He deserves to win if he and Marmot are aligned, which the right side of my brain is twitching to me right now.

Could be time for a lobotomy

Even mafia will be hunting in this game (see Long Con) since there are more than one team, which throws a lot of metas into question

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:42 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:39 pm DH’s case is circumstantial and has a whole lot of projecting, for sure. BUt it could be something nonetheless.

I also have a good feeling about Epi before nutella blew up the game.

I still would rather speed get lynched in any case atm so I can look at LC/speed interactions when I have more time

Circumstantial how?

Epi and Chuck both fucked around with their votes, voting counter to their stated suspicions in order to save Speedchuck, and Speedchuck is bad. Where is the guess work there?

speedchuck's first role could have been a civilian role. You don't see too many mafia protectors (I had one in Mileena, but I can't recall ever having another one).

Nevermind. You were talking about Speedchuck.

I don’t think it would be a stretch to assume in a big game like this that there would be mafia doctors. There’s alfeady a bevy of vote manipulation roles all over the place.

It would certainly make me feel better about INH’s first role being civ, as a Doctor-lite

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] I’m sorry if you answered this before but why are you deadset that nutella didn’t start as mafia?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:46 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:32 pm Here’s a very likely thing to note:
Strexcorp does not kill on even nights.

Marmot most definitely used his one-shot negation of night actions on N4, because not only was there no kill, Cecil didn’t post.

So either there was a protect of the NK target and someone blocked Cecil, or Marmot used his power on a night they didn’t kill. There is no reason to do so on a night that they would have had a chance to kill.

So therefore, if there are only 2 teams (Evil Evens and Strexcorp) then Evil Evens DO kill on even nights

i'd like to point out it's also possible cecil just straight up didnt submit anything for night 4. i dont think the hosts would come on and say "cecil didnt send anything in tonight"

Did he?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:32 pm Were missing votes a problem over there or something?

I wouldn’t say that was the problem exactly- we definitely had days without 1-2 voters. Maybe 3 I don’t remember.

The problem was a stasis in agreement among who looked the most guilty. There were so many wallflowers that there were reasons for basically voting everyone. I don’t think we stuck with the same lynch from one day to another

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:31 pm Also, that other tribe must be shitty as hell. I'd be losing my mind over there.

I have some extra pills if you wanna meet my dealer

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.

Here’s a theory:

Anyone not mafia in the first incarnation that becomes mafia in the 2nd incarnation gains an entirely new mafia team that gradually grows in members and stops once it reaches {3??} players. It would take over a kill of the first team that’s eliminated.

I dunno, that sounds like a cool setup. And annoying for us.

Just no.

No like you don’t think it’s possible or like, ‘nuh uh, girlfriend’?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.

Here’s a theory:

Anyone not mafia in the first incarnation that becomes mafia in the 2nd incarnation gains an entirely new mafia team that gradually grows in members and stops once it reaches {3??} players. It would take over a kill of the first team that’s eliminated.

I dunno, that sounds like a cool setup. And annoying for us.

The fuck.

Fixed:

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?

Day 1:







And then on night 1 she

That sounds about right.

What did Boomslang do?

Boomslang:
sig said some odd stuff and it came off as odd. (vote sig)



He had a total of 30 posts or so when we were swapped

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?

Day 1:







And then on night 1 she

That sounds about right.

What did Boomslang do?

Boomslang:
sig said some odd stuff and it came off as odd. [VOTE:



He had a total of 30 posts or so when we were swapped] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?

Day 1:







And then on night 1 she

This is speedchuck’s D1 rainbow. Posting for posterity.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:22 pm speedchuck
Long Con
sprityo
S~V~S
Quin
Epignosis
nutella
Dragon D Luffy
Dharmahelper
colonialbob
dom

Readlist

I would expect if Speedchuck had a teammate on this tribe (which isn’t definite), the teammate(s) would lie somewhere in the middle-low range. Not too high, not too low. Epi certainly fits that bill, but so does DDL and DH

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:14 pm I still don't believe speedchuck was bad in his first incarnation.

Well then, there is that possibility.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 pm We talked in our thread about the possibility of a mafia team killing one of their own for credibility in a game where we all have two lives.

She did seem like an odd choice of kill N1.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:03 pm Oh, and that initial thought I had yesterday that a bad nutella = bad nijuu sounds more likely. And on opposing teams.

Why on God’s green earth would there be a masonry role where one person is bad and one person is good, and they can’t reveal names? Like how bogus would that be for nijuu??

I think nijuu is on Strexcorp [or another team god save the queen]

If the Evil Evens kill on even Nights, then Strex killed nijuukyugou, and so she didn't start out on their team.

good point.

I guess she could have started indie or something. I hat don’t see a civ role being in that position. I would be pissed at my role if I learned i was good and btscing with mafia.

So she could be anything at this point then.

All assuming there are only 2 mafia teams.

Oh, and that initial thought I had yesterday that a bad nutella = bad nijuu sounds more likely. And on opposing teams.

Why on God’s green earth would there be a masonry role where one person is bad and one person is good, and they can’t reveal names? Like how bogus would that be for nijuu??

I think nijuu is on Strexcorp [or another team god save the queen]

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:45 pm If the "targeted abilities must target a member of your own tribe" rule applies to nightkills, we could also be in interesting territory.

That is my thought.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:46 pm Interactive reads between Long Con/nutella and speedchuck might be illuminating. But he's not here.

Looking through that now in any case for possible combinations of teammate compatibilities on Pikachu

if there is a kill tonight, and there are only 2 teams, that means Evil Evens kill tonite. It’s already lost 2 members, and the killer on the team can only target someone on their tribe. So I guess we’ll see if there is a kill and which tribe still has Evil Evens on it, if any.

This tribal switch is going to turn this game into a Sudoku to solve

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:22 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:12 pm There are still multiple people over there who have seen speedchuck's flip and hopefully they've not all forgotten about it.

It’s probably easier to believe someone’s info when you can read the thread verbatim and make out those eccentricities.

Plus speedchucks’s team member(s) probably wouldn’t have piled on him.

Speedchuck's teammate is over here tho

We don’t know how many teammates are on each mafia team.

Do you?

Here’s a very likely thing to note:
Strexcorp does not kill on even nights.

Marmot most definitely used his one-shot negation of night actions on N4, because not only was there no kill, Cecil didn’t post.

So either there was a protect of the NK target and someone blocked Cecil, or Marmot used his power on a night they didn’t kill. There is no reason to do so on a night that they would have had a chance to kill.

So therefore, if there are only 2 teams (Evil Evens and Strexcorp) then Evil Evens DO kill on even nights

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:12 pm There are still multiple people over there who have seen speedchuck's flip and hopefully they've not all forgotten about it.

It’s probably easier to believe someone’s info when you can read the thread verbatim and make out those eccentricities.

Plus speedchucks’s team member(s) probably wouldn’t have piled on him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:02 pm Did you guys even get Chucks flip on Cerberus?

I believe we did, but the last week has been an exhausted blur for me so I might be creating false memories for convenience.

You know, now that I’m thinking about it, no we didn’t. We only got the lynch flip, not the nutella-induced flip.

It was a surprise to see it when I read the thread here

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:34 pm If we all feel confident that speedchuck is bad, should we try to refrain from lynching today?

As far as you can tell, have both sides been getting all of the results?

Yes.

Awesome. I think they'll get the job done then.

Never underestimate the lackluster power of Bidoof!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:43 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:40 pm There have been kills during the Day phase. I'm hoping whoever is in charge of those can take care of him.

Could be that the person responsible for INH and nutella are currently on this tribe..

Yeah, but you know, hope that it doesn't matter and all that rot.

Golden wrote:When using targeted abilities, you may only target people on your tribe.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:40 pm There have been kills during the Day phase. I'm hoping whoever is in charge of those can take care of him.

Could be that the person responsible for INH and nutella are currently on this tribe..

Amazing.

Sloonei looks good here since Mr Marmot places his potential +2 vote on him.

Sloonei also looks great for reasons.

Slightly alarming, though not bad, is that the other tribe couldn’t get across 5 votes on Speedchuck.

But hey, we’re 3/3 on full lynches. Let’s keep em comin!

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:01 pm On the other hand, when hand delivered a member of the mafia you guys all want to lynch Marmot for some reason so IDK really.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:00 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:46 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:30 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:29 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:27 pm Waiting on Kyle to come in 30 minutes after the vote to ask what he missed

wow.

(I’m just being a snarky asshole. Take no offense, beezus)

too late im already crying

Curious, Kyle- what are your current reads of all of the old tribemates here and your impressions of everyone else we just met?

that seems like kind of a lengthy question that might be difficult to answer since I'm riding in a car especially considering I still need to vote and have like... 8 minutes to do so, so rain check

i'm also not super comfortable giving reads on any of these new folks given that I haven't actually read any of this thread yet

That’s fair. When are you thinking of getting some time to sit down? I’m not saying read the whole thread, but just the people that have shown up inthread since we arrived, you’ve gotta have some feel so far.

I would also recommend not voting for Marmot. I think 4 is enough and we don’t necessarily want to have more votes than they do on Speedchuck

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:54 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:07 pm Where the fuck am I?!?

0.o

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!

Thanks for your single contribution to the day, good doctor.

See, this is the kind of stuff we’ve been getting from Wilgy most the game.. I say most because it started off with very direct dialogue and purpose. But it’s been even sillier and ramped up since SpaceDaisy alluded to bad Wilgy harboring a more straight-forward serious approach. Is this civ play?

Fuck it, it's Day 8, in a GOC game. If people are gonna do that kind of stuff I'd honestly prefer lynching them

This has been our plight on the other side for the past 2 weeks.

I now have an opioid problem

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:07 pm Where the fuck am I?!?

0.o

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!

Thanks for your single contribution to the day, good doctor.

See, this is the kind of stuff we’ve been getting from Wilgy most the game.. I say most because it started off with very direct dialogue and purpose. But it’s been even sillier and ramped up since SpaceDaisy alluded to bad Wilgy harboring a more straight-forward serious approach. Is this civ play?

[mention]Golden[/mention] hey big man
How possible would it be to get new ISOs set up for the additions as well as ISOs for both you and Juliets? It’s just been a hassle having to find and remember host posts.

Thanks mate!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:30 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:29 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:27 pm Waiting on Kyle to come in 30 minutes after the vote to ask what he missed

wow.

(I’m just being a snarky asshole. Take no offense, beezus)

too late im already crying

Curious, Kyle- what are your current reads of all of the old tribemates here and your impressions of everyone else we just met?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:31 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:29 pm has anything new surfaced about marmot since day 7?

No, it's all been out in the open for a while. He's bad and that's that.

I must be honest, man. You went after Marmot all of day 7 out the gate like a flickering light in the kitchen making my eye twitch and it made me go, “well, either he’s going to eventually come to a head with a massive case or he learned something in the night.”
It’s not like your case was bad, it just lacked that airtight feel that made me dance like a banshee. I wasn’t against Marmot’s lynching because he, like a lot of people on old Bidoof, practically ghosted around for lengths of time.
Marmot’s reasoning does sound rational- he had been busy the past week and his participation dropped. He did prod the thread and appear like a fringe civ, but like, I also did those things. I just happened to post like 150 more times. Just playing devil’s advocate.

Unless you know something and are doing everything in your power to make sure we lynch him without so much as infodumping.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:29 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:28 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:05 pm Btw since Chuck is bad and he got moved over, one of the people that came over here his also bad. At least.

well we did keep nutella, who was bad

Speak of the devil

I dont speak any eldritch language

but if you were looking for me, im home and i guess i was off on my day count. so let er rip at me give me something to dig into

Oops I read your name as Kyle for some reason. Ignore

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:29 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:27 pm Waiting on Kyle to come in 30 minutes after the vote to ask what he missed

wow.

(I’m just being a snarky asshole. Take no offense, beezus)

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:28 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:05 pm Btw since Chuck is bad and he got moved over, one of the people that came over here his also bad. At least.

well we did keep nutella, who was bad

Speak of the devil

Waiting on Kyle to come in 30 minutes after the vote to ask what he missed